Your Drums Aren’t Big Enough | Season Six, Episode 30

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6 ай бұрын

There’s a lot of misunderstanding surrounding choice in drum sizes. Some people will swear that it’s the depth, not the diameter, that generates a lower pitch. Others will swear that smaller drums are best for lower tunings. We’re here to address a particular blindspot as it relates to tuning range and drum size and we’re going to prove our point with a few demonstrations.
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@Hootcifer 6 ай бұрын

I know why I changed from 10" 12" to 12" 13" as Racktoms and from a 22" to a 24" as Bassdrum. I really dislike the tone of some modern metal production where the toms are just attack and you can't differentiate them from the Kickdrum sometimes...

@michalostv9725 6 ай бұрын

Possibly it may be a stylistic choice; with busy playing, a sharp attack and a hint of tone may be a way to go. I assume modern metal drummers are often triggering samples to cut through the mix more. It is interesting what a simple instrument like drums can do.

@that-avr-drummer 5 ай бұрын

There's a local "drum guru" in our area that has said this for years! He even stated that if you want a lower, deeper sound then you should be playing 12, 13 and 16 as opposed to 10, 12, 16. And if you're looking for really good pitch intervals and more musical tones then go for 10, 13, 16 for an even size difference between them.

@niteshades_promise 6 ай бұрын

8, 10, 12, 14, the only toms i want/need🍻

@danlc95 3 ай бұрын

Same, though I do have a 16, but never use it outside the house.

@daltonidaho 6 ай бұрын

Very true! My most recent kit is 24, 13, 16 and I like that I can have my 13" somewhere in mid-tuning range to get the tone I'm after.

@neieodnsnak4902 5 ай бұрын

24,13,16 has given me the best sound of any sizes ive tried. the sizes are perfect.

@ingemosh5430 5 ай бұрын

following you guys for a couple of years now and this is clearly one of the best drum related channels on here. thank you so much and please keep up the amazing work. cheers!

@PaulMarangoni 6 ай бұрын

A 10" tom mounted near the snare will trigger a lot of snare buzz unless it's tensioned low enough, or the snare is tensioned high enough.

@michalostv9725 6 ай бұрын

Another brilliant episode; we are so fortunate for the content you have been making for years. With the heavily processed drums on the records these days, we are in a similar position to drummers in the 80's. Hitting an actual drum does not sound as big or fat as it does in the records we hear. However, this is a great experiment; if you tune too low and have someone else play your drums, then listen to them from a distance, it may give you an idea of what your bandmates or listeners can hear. Then tune up gradually and try again. Suddenly there is a tone and not a bright attack only. And the tone adds a depth to the sound as demonstrated in this video.

@soulproprietor 6 ай бұрын

Totally agree - I am fortunate enough to play drums in a band with some folks who are also great drummers. Whenever possible, I have one of them play and I go out front to listen to the drum sound. The drum set is a very complex collection of instruments! When you sit behind it, you are hearing something dramatically different than what everyone in front of and beside it hears.

@HenkJanDrums 6 ай бұрын

On smartphone there are dB apps so ...measure dB and you get some objective info. There should be a maximum acoording to this: very low = low dB, very high is low dB so ...where is the maximum and ...is that a sound you like? If you have each tom at max dB ....do you get a nice drum set sound than?

@jeremyschneider9531 6 ай бұрын

Truth! Especially unmiked, they almost always sound lower and less resonant out front, compared to from the driver's seat

@TsunamiBeefPies 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for a beautifully detailed explanation of why tuning drums carefully is important, and that recognizing the proper range for the drum you're using is of vital importance to that. Cody has demonstrated time and again that truly fine drummers don't need a lot of drums to sound great. Part of the reason is that whatever configuration it is that you're playing, it's always impeccably tuned. Another excellent presentation, guys!

@Sundaydrumday 5 ай бұрын

Great video! Thanks for sharing! By the way, nice playing Cody! Those K hats sound amaze-ballz!

@DrummerRIP 6 ай бұрын

Awesome! Stellar information, examples & more. This is the norm when visiting Sounds like a Drum! Thank you!

@ferranmelero7727 6 ай бұрын

Well I really love the sound of extremely low tuned 10 inch drum sounds lovely

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

It's certainly got a place (we even did an episode on this years ago) but there's quite the tradeoff. Ultimately, you can produce a more stable, consistent result with less wear to the batter head by using a larger drum and attack/sustain can be controlled through additional tuning adjustments and/or mounting.

@shadowplaymk 5 ай бұрын

"Beef Up Your Batters" Thanks, that's my new band name now!

@FartCoffinStudios 6 ай бұрын

Another great video. This channel has awesome advice.

@Claes_Isacson 6 ай бұрын

Thx guys. Very good advice as always! 🥁

@ACLOCKWORKDRUMMER 6 ай бұрын

So great cody!

@pjones8404 6 ай бұрын

LOL ..I have an Ian Paice 1972 "Made In Japan" Ian Paice Silver Sparkle Ludwig replica kit. The four-piece kit is massive. 14x26 kick, 10x16 rack (yeah you read that correctly) 16x18 and 18x20 floor toms. Being older and growing up with Ian and others of that era, plus all my years of playing big band jazz, I have always tuned my drums higher than most. And with this kit, all my low end comes from the size of the shells. The heads are tight like Buddy Rich would have them. They are so easy to play and just sing!! I also can't understand people with 8,10, 12 racks that are trying to go way lower than what is optimal. Never be afraid of putting tension into your toms! They sounded much better, are much easier to play and project much better!

@davidjperkins1710 6 ай бұрын

Worked for Bonham...

@pjones8404 6 ай бұрын

@@davidjperkins1710 worked for many back in that era. It's a lost art now.

@davidjperkins1710 6 ай бұрын

@@pjones8404 True- I saw Zep on their first tour- Bonham had the same size Ludwigs that I have- huge full sound with the heads a lot tighter than you would have thought and hit HARD..!!

@pjones8404 6 ай бұрын

@@davidjperkins1710 but he hit cleanly with great technique. Hitting hard alone doesn't do much!

@petarcvahte7418 6 ай бұрын

I recently changed all the heads on my old 1970s YD-700 set of 12/13/14/20, went from the classic single ply 10mil coated batter and clear reso to a 2x10mil(!) vintage coated batter and a coated 10mil reso. The fundamental went lower, the volume went up, the tone went kind of nice murky dark, the attack was dulled, and the drum started to invite me to dig in harder (and in a good way!) but it is still almost equally hard to get interesting and usable intervals between the 3 toms of such similar size, while trying to keep the sound more or less equally big on all 3 of them.

@andrewkalipetis7128 6 ай бұрын

Amazing content, as always. This is exactly why I spent money refurbishing my 89 Rockstar kit. You can't get power toms any more. I'm not saying they are the best for every type of music and all that mess, but they're my preference.

@jorymil 5 ай бұрын

I actually use an old power tom as a small floor tom at home. 13x11 is perfect for a small "street/jungle" kit.

@andrewkalipetis7128 5 ай бұрын

@@jorymil that's awesome!

@danlc95 3 ай бұрын

I still have my 1990 Tama RS catalog.

@danlc95 3 ай бұрын

I play 10, 12, and 14. They're tuned pretty snug. I've played my heads tight sine I was a kid. I wanted to make sure they'd cut through. Those were Slingerlands. This time around I went with Aquarian Classic Clear Power Dots w/ Classic Clear on the reso. Next time I'm going back to twin ply heads. Probably the Reponse 2, or Performance 2.

@user-lx7wq5fe3t 6 ай бұрын

Wonderful video, really appreciate it as usual with your channel! I was curious about drum dial's measurements you took: which were those for 10" batter and which those for 12" batter? Thank you, great job and great advice!

@ChrisWhittenMusic 5 ай бұрын

It seems to me that the 10" tom has become trendy with drummers while not in use in a lot of music. I often have a 10" tom, but it is off to the left, an extra flavour, not my number one tom. My most used mounted tom is either a 12 or a 13". Lets face it, a lot of drummers are playing covers, classic hits etc and it amazes me that so many drummers are playing AC/DC or Fleetwood Mac with a 10" tom as their main mounted tom. Horses for courses. I get it that 13 and 14" mounted toms are big and more difficult to place ergonomically.

@norbertrenner9364 6 ай бұрын

I was playing a 10 x9 rack and a 14x12 floor for al long tiime,emperors on top tuned as low as possible and change a few years ago to 12x8 and 16x14

@ericstearns170 6 ай бұрын

Feel really good about my 80s style deep toms right now. 😁

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

Ah, but depth wasn’t a part of this at all…

@ericstearns170 6 ай бұрын

@@SoundsLikeADrum True, but they are also the larger diameters. Back when 12, 13 and 16 was the standard and 10 and 14 were the bracketing add on mounted toms.

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

There ya go!

@jarrodbiesmann 6 ай бұрын

Lovely comparison video. The best comparisons are just when you're chainging one variable. In this case, the shell. I was wondering if the 'shell note' is something to factor in when considering building a kit. Say for instance, you're in a successful band, you're getting a kit made, so you're thinking 'what shell sizes should I get?'. The shells resonant frequency will relate to a note (or close to) Does that note compliment the bands overall sound ( for example what tunings are the pitched instruments typically in?) Does the complimentary shell note work or is it better to choose a different pitch which harmonizes? I suspect there's been a lot of happy accidents over the decades of modern music. The only drummer I know who has considered this was Danny Carey, but I'm sure there's others. Can anyone let me know what other artists have conciously considered this when creating there sound?

@Chiroman527 6 ай бұрын

Bravo, Cory.l Very helpful as always. I have come to learn as only a recreational drummer, playing again after 50 Years in 2019, that Drum Tuning is an Acquired Art Form. I didn't know anything about tuning way b ack when [1967-1969]. I struggle with tuning, my drums which are unmiked. Aside from my difficulties of getting my snares to sound - like yours & others - when I try to tweak the 3 Rack Toms, it can generate Snare Buzz. I don't hear any Snare Buzz in this or other videos? And you don't have any Moongels or other sound deadening materials on the drum head? How do you do that? THX again. Happy New Year!

@YardGoat2022 6 ай бұрын

I just wish drum manufacturers would diversify their kits and make kits with bigger aerial toms starting at 9x13 and up. So tiring seeing the usual 8x10 then 9x12 set up in every kit sold!!! Aaargh!! Lower sound toms sounds more rock and roll to me! Less wimpy.

@danlc95 3 ай бұрын

It used to be 10x12, and 11x13 when I was a kid. It wasn't until the early 90's sis we start seeing the 10/12 set up.

@gregwonhoff7161 6 ай бұрын

Cody, I love this episode you just gave to us, as I am constantly working on getting my toms as low as I can while maintaining a quality sound, but I have 3 large elephants in the room with me, and they are in the form of 2 Mapex toms and one Pearl tom. Now you might be wondering what’s the problem. Well the problem is that all 3 toms are the exact same size…12”x8”. You see, one of the Mapex toms is a floor tom that came with my bop set. It has legs. The other Mapex tom is a regular rack tom that I bought on eBay. The third tom, the Pearl tom, is a high tom but has no mounting hardware on it, so it sits in a snare basket. I also have a 10” Mapex rack tom which I begin with when tuning. I get it Al low as I can while sounding good and then tune each of the other toms a bit lower than the one before it. I know it’s not the best way to do things, but I’m a 74 year old self-taught basement drummer, and I guess that is the way it’s going to be. Anyway, thank you again for this wonderful episode. You inspired me to sit down again with these 4 drums and just have fun messing around with the different sounds I can get.❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️ What I am dong s tuning the

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

If it works for you then that’s what matters. Glad you enjoyed the episode! -Ben

@dingerjunkie 6 ай бұрын

Excellent content. May I ask for/request a different exploration of tom sizing. I didn't find this in your prior video library, hence the request. Could you explore "power depth" vs "fast dept" vs "jazz depth" or even "short stack" tom behavior? Let's say same heads and tuning on 12-inch toms in 80's 10-inch, modern 9-inch, "fast" 8-inch and super-shallow from a super-portable kit (tons out there)? I'm considering shallower toms for ergonomics, but I'd like to know how that decision truly impacts tone/performance.

@bakerfam1000 6 ай бұрын

Grew up playing 12/13/16/22 and then my second kit was a 10/12/14/22 so I ended up buying a 13 in the new line up on top of a 16 someone sold used that was the same make model and finish as my other toms and I fell in love with the 12/13/14/16 thing and then adding the 10 to get a full range of tone

@ByNinjaHD 6 ай бұрын

Can you do a video on the yamaha custom hip floortom tuning?! :) Im struggeling with the tuning of the small floortom…

@JasonWelchMusic 5 ай бұрын

I'll be the first to say that I'm definitely guilty of this. My 10" tom sounds EXACTLY like yours at 1:30 and my 14 sounds like a 16. My engineer LOVES it because it quickly decays. Im using coated Emporers. The reason I like it is because I'm a lazy drummer and I like small drums so I don't have to move my torso as much. (Yes, I know... you've also taught us that's bad too...😂)... I never really thought about it before today, but you've given me some valuable insight on why my Emporers are going dead so quickly. Im having to replace them a lot more often even though I'm a soft hitter. (Fingers and wrist mostly.) I always keep new heads here in my home studio because I change them more often than I change guitar strings. So I got out my bigger kit (12,13,16,22,14) and grabbed some HD Dry off the shelf for the snare & toms as an experiment. Its simply mind blowing how much I like it. I just wish evans would make them in a 16" so I can have a matching set. So for the 16" I used a coated G2. Its a little more lively than I like, but it still sounds good. As for the snare, the HD Dry is my favorite recording head. I love a snare that rings forever, but my engineer, not so much. So the HD Dry is a great compromise over using a wallet or moongel..

@jmfs3497 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this one, SLaD! I have never noticed the pitch bend/dynamics thing. I will listen for that next time I play. I'm currently on a bop sized 18/14/12, and want to play soft and low. I will pick up thicker heads in my favorite line. It's nice to hear this kind of feedback. I still feel unsure what I'm listening for or even how to listen. I just pulled out a tom and started really listening to it. Nerds, lol.

@jorymil 5 ай бұрын

I really like pinstripes/Superkick when I want to tune my kit lower: 12x9, 15x12, 18x16 bass. Same principle as switching to thicker strings when downtuning a guitar. Physics!

@davidhelmedrummer2004 5 ай бұрын

I want big drums so bad. Talking 24 kicks, 8 10 12 13 14 15 rack toms and 18 20 floors all as deep as they can go

@WesHampson 6 ай бұрын

1:28 Teach Me How To Dougie tom lol

@thepluggy1 6 ай бұрын

I hate the way 13 rack Tom's have gone out of fashion

@teetomthomas 6 ай бұрын

13” x 9” tom is to my ears is the most versatile sized drum out there.

@dconsmack 6 ай бұрын

It would be great to expand on this and maybe do a video showing how low tuned drums can be really quiet in the overheads relative to the snare volume. That can be used as an advantage or it can be a detriment depending on how one wants it produced.

@tapary 5 ай бұрын

I'm a metal drummer, and I use 60's Ludwig drums.

@krusher74 5 ай бұрын

I have my 8/10/12/14 Sonors tuned via a tunebot at the 10/12/14/16 remended hurtz, I dont find them having any problem you have mentioned.(using aquarian studio X) Maybe the Sonor undersized shell diameter is also a help.

@danlc95 3 ай бұрын

I'm using the Studio X too!

@drumjedi5301 6 ай бұрын

Great episode, on a very worthy subject. An added perspective: in some situations, a compromise must be made. I play for a cover band that plays rock and country in mostly smaller bars and venues. Thus, I need med/low tones, but also lower volume and small physical footprint. My solution: an older Sonor Safari with 16" kick, 10" rack tom, 14" floor tom, and a 12x3.25 snare. The kick uses an eMad batter just over finger tight, and the toms use EC2 batters and EC resos, and they're tuned as low as they can go while still having clean tone (which, I'll admit, is lower than I ever expected). Now, there is certainly a loss of feel and dynamic range, and yes, I do wear heads relatively quickly. However, the drums take up very little space both on stage and when packed, speak deeply enough to suit the music, and provide for a considerably lower stage volume than my normal 22, 12, 16 kit. The one caveat that helps in my case: the drums are fully mic'd through the PA. The loss of projection and tone from the low tuning is offset by the PA. Is it ideal? No. A full size kit would eat heads less and sound better overall...however, given the circumstances, the tradeoffs are worth it, and I'm regularly complimented on how big a sound I get from such a small kit. The truths illustrated in this video indeed hold true, but, as drummers, sometimes we have to give a little to get a little. 😊

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! And of course, there are always compromises. The reality for the application of everything we've covered in hundreds of videos is built on the need to compromise and find balance. Ultimately, we're trying to provide information that can help make decisions based on context. Cheers!

@drumjedi5301 6 ай бұрын

@@SoundsLikeADrum Keep it up! Always good stuff.

@Medievalfan94 6 ай бұрын

Thing is, I recently build a travel kit, basically a Pearl Midtown clone from older Mapex shells I had laying around. I play pop punk and metal on it (yes, really!). It has a 10" racktom, a 13" floortom and an 16" bassdrum. Toms have emperors on top and ambassadors on the bottom, BD got Evans Emad and a generic 16 10mil head I had laying around. I really struggled with the 16" bassdrum to get it nice a thuddy. There is just a limited amount of lowend in that drum. The key was to muffle out the reso head just a bit to get that boomy resonance out that the head produced on very low tunings. maybe I just need to get a predampened reso for this one... The 10" and the 13" though tuned like a dream. absolutely not, what I expected. The 13" gets even lower than my 14" floortom on the big kit. Mapex just made awesome shells back in the early 00's.

@jc3drums916 6 ай бұрын

I use a Remo Ebony Pinstripe on my 16" converted bass drum, and it's...well, I'm not gonna lie, it isn't great if you're looking for low end, but it's alright. To me, 16" is all about punch. It sounds good for what it is, but I don't expect it to sound like a 20" or 22". It has the cheap thin reso that it came with (probably Diplomat weight), unported, and one of those old hourglass-shaped pillows to dampen both heads. The EMAD is great, I use it on my main bass drum, but it's still a 1-ply 10 mil head. If you want thud, try a Pinstripe or Hydraulic.

@jc3drums916 6 ай бұрын

With 10" toms, Weckl said Gadd tended to tune to F# on recordings, so that's what he usually does as well. I noticed Benny Greb and Jojo Mayer are also in that ballpark. I think mine's around E or something; I don't like the way it sounds when I tune it up to F# - it seems the overall timbre changes too much. I'd probably have to go with a smaller interval (currently a whole step, it was m3 before that), or even invert it so that the batter is tighter, if I want to get up to F#. That said, I used to be guilty of tuning my toms even lower (I think the 10" was around Bb!), until I had a chance to step away and hear them played by someone else. Then there's Ash Soan, who uses a super-low 10" as his only rack tom, but I guess anything goes when you're close-micing in the studio.

@presterjack9764 6 ай бұрын

15"/18"/28", ideal performance

@imthelaw74 6 ай бұрын

The sizes i was lookin to invest in extually....

@elithepitbulldog2209 6 ай бұрын

Well, I prefer jazz so this isn’t an issue for me. I tune the toms where they are in tune with themselves, usually medium to high (every dum has that sweet spot) and I enjoy the rebound I get from higher tuned toms

@jamesnortonofficial1566 6 ай бұрын

Do you tune your reso head lower on the Tom’s ?

@drummerboyharm3078 5 ай бұрын

Slightly higher than the batter.

@jcsk8 6 ай бұрын

That late 80´s early 90´s small sized drums, wich probably came from fusion music never got me. I´m still a 12, 13, 16 toms and at least 22 bass drums.

@oopsididamaterialism8113 6 ай бұрын

@1:24 huge missed opportunity to insert the Ron Howard line “…hey, that’s the name of our show!”

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

Yeah…we don’t feel like it’s necessary to say the silent part out loud 😉

@MrAngryTwinkie 6 ай бұрын

I have been playing 10 12 14 as rack toms with a 16 floor tom for years for exactly these reasons. Better rebound at the same pitch compared to 8 10 12 14.

@ForeverDownByLaw 6 ай бұрын

Hmm… this somewhat drum dependent. My Sonor Delite 10/12/16 kit supports rather low tuning without much sacrifice, which I attribute to the quality of the drums (they basically sound incredible at any tuning). I'm a fan of larger toms, however, due to ergonomic reasons, I find them less than ideal re: setup and comfort. I find a setup that is more comfortable gives better results in the end.

@m6hill983 6 ай бұрын

I use 13*11and 16*16... Before I had 12*8 and 16*14.. The difference is dramatic..

@WeEmptyRooms 6 ай бұрын

Would love to see an episode on essentially the opposite of this; as a player that mainly uses larger sizes I've found larger toms tend to have a smaller tuning range - too low and they don't resonate, too high and they choke. I think this is maybe more of an issue with 14/15/16/18 drums in Power Tom sizes? As it's less pronounced on bass drums in my experience. Would love to see this phenomenon explored/broken down.

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

This would be possible for us to do if we had those sizes but since we don’t, it’s highly unlikely that we’ll be doing such an episode in this format.

@WeEmptyRooms 6 ай бұрын

@@SoundsLikeADrumfair enough. Great channel and appreciate your videos. Always searching for a more heavy playing focused version of what you do

@dconsmack 6 ай бұрын

I’ve had this experience with extra thick birch shells. Similar with super sharp bearing edges when tuning high.

@elijahsacco 6 ай бұрын

@SoundsLikeADrum Quick, someone send Cody an 80s power tom kit 😂😂

@WeEmptyRooms 6 ай бұрын

@@elijahsacco would love to see him go through a Tama Artstar

@adamalexanderray 6 ай бұрын

Well this helps explain why I never liked 14” floor toms as much as 16” floor toms.

@rapscallion52 6 ай бұрын

Mmm, yes, I was just thinking my 14” rack and 20” floor might be too small, lol

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

It’s all relative, right?

@lotoreo 6 ай бұрын

listening to this on (somewhat) quality headphones, and to me, the 10" sounded a little bit better, though definitely not perfect, but I think that might have a lot to with the close mics or mic set up, because you REALLY hear the tone of the racktom in the recording, more than you ever would if you just listened to the drums in the room probably. And to be honest, the long sustain of the 12" in THIS mic setup is too long for me, where it starts to interfere with the clarity of sounds of the rest of the kit. Obviously you still have the issues of detuning and damaged heads with the 10", and less rebound too I suppose, but I never personally felt the need for bouncy toms, so we'd still have to look for a way to make it work in practice.. This is all just my opinion though. peace&love

@andreademu3673 6 ай бұрын

Sante parole....al minuto 10,25 !!!!!

@The_Other_Ghost 6 ай бұрын

Got it, I'm going to keep avoiding tuning like Gene Hoglan. He might tune finger tight. As much as I tune for depth I make sure I have tone.

@thebenefactor6744 6 ай бұрын

I got big arms, cuz I drum, right.

@jonathanreddish8590 6 ай бұрын

im confused by this video... i figured bigger drums for lower pitch, and 10's and 12's simply need to be tuned higher, as that is thier role..... i guess the message is that folks buy a 10/12/14 and want a 12/14/16 sound???

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

Not sure what your confusion stems from. Your assumptions are correct in that (as we demonstrated here) a larger drum needs more tension to achieve the same pitch as a smaller drum, which is beneficial if you prefer to tune on the lower range of your drums. Whether smaller configurations or larger configurations are more suitable for your needs is up to you to decide based on your preferences.

@llRoBoBinHoll 6 ай бұрын

I think that papery growl sound on 4:15 is pretty cool, but obviously not really sustainable for the drum head

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

That’s something that, if you dig it, can be achieved by working on the reso head and the tension relationship between batter and reso.

@llRoBoBinHoll 6 ай бұрын

@@SoundsLikeADruminteresting, would that be with a relatively much higher tuned resonant head? Or, have you got a video on it perhaps?

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

We’ve included this as sort of a fun, experimental sound in some previous episodes. What’s essentially happening is that the head fully in contact with the bearing edge in some areas and it can cause this “growl”. In order to tune one head that low, the other needs to pick up some of the slack.

@bartoszdolewski4915 5 ай бұрын

Its also significantly harder to mic small toms

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 ай бұрын

Can you tell us more about the challenges you’ve experienced in miking small toms and how this differs from larger toms?

@danlc95 3 ай бұрын

How so?

@mccbuddytaras6637 6 ай бұрын

easy fix. 8 different kits :P

@eschaef71 6 ай бұрын

The whole tom on a snare stand is only appropriate in situations where like JHB, there was a 26" bass drum, and a shell mounted 15" tom would be unusable. Why would this be a test of a 10" tom on a snare stand? I have a Pearl set and it has a great Optimount system. A 10" on a three point snare stand???

@studhammer_ 6 ай бұрын

Definitely fallen victim to this. Unfortunately it's not easy to just add a drum for another sound.

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

That's why we included the portion at the end 😉

@studhammer_ 6 ай бұрын

@@SoundsLikeADrum always taking care of us! Appreciate it!

@HenkJanDrums 6 ай бұрын

Tunebot has a tuning calculator. If you use the default settings. What are your thoughts about the tunings recommended? I use those tunings to have accepted sounds (it is not about my taste but ...what people like). Top and bottom same and i tune using the fundamental tone. I use the diff setting/menu to have all pitches at top and bottom exactly the same. That should give maximum resonance. It works on every drum ...i play on many sizes and branches. My own kits are Pearl and yes i also have a Master Custom MMX.

@RolandDuke 6 ай бұрын

So you tune the reso and batter to the same frequency?

@Mari000 6 ай бұрын

Same but I tune the reso head a littler tighter than the batter

@samward9641 6 ай бұрын

I play guitar for 20 years and I just started playing drums a couple years ago and I got the tune bot studio and I'm confused as hell. I can never make it sound as good as I can with my ears. It's just I'm not understanding the tune bot. I need a good detailed video Do you have a recommendation ?@@Mari000

@SoundsLikeADrum 6 ай бұрын

If you’ve been playing guitar for 20 years than surely your ears are adept enough to handle the tuning of drums. It just takes some practice. We’ve got an entire channel full of resources to help facilitate that.

@samward9641 6 ай бұрын

@@SoundsLikeADrum thanks for the reply.. your channel's already helped a lot. I appreciate it...