Isn't it amazing how easy it is to get low intellect people riled up to do bad things?

Heart-breaking 😢

I was in Center City when the ... "fun" went down. I'm surprised anyone had time to destroy statues when there were Indian restaurants to loot... for social justice of course. It is well known that curry is contrary to social justice. But this was not a crowd who would pause to spend 20 seconds googling a thing before wrecking it.

#BLM #Antifa

There is nothing more harmful than ignorance

Currently, I'm playing Assassin's Creed Unity (set in 18th cent. revolutionary France) and it is a nice touch, that developers did depict in the story even this theme of politics controling present through rewriting or censoring past. Which of course during the French revolution was very much a thing. This practice is simply as old as human civilizations itself.

who is "they" exactly? do you have any particular group in mind? absolutely amazing to see a white marble statue pfp in this very thread, proving the very point metatron is failing to argue against.

@@xereeto In context of this tacitus6384's comment "they" refers to "politics". However that statement is generally applicable to anyone. And what point Metatron is failing to argue against do you mean? I'm not sure what you mean by that.

​@@Lukas-Trnka 1. the idea of a nefarious specific group of people trying to inject "their" politics into art, to "rewrite" history and "control" the population, echoes a certain narrative from 1930s germany very closely. that's all i'm saying. 2. metatron dismisses the link between the white statue myth and white supremacy, because he refuses to engage with the actual argument being made - namely that fascists LOVE white marble statues and hold them fairly central to their belief system - and instead attacks a strawman. enter a white statue pfp spouting off nazi-adjacent dogwhistles to illustrate the point.

@@xereeto Who is "they" you ask? Given from what I've read of your two posts, I'd tell you to look in a mirror to answer your question. And the white marble statue's are liked because they have a certain gravitas to them. The painted ones might have been works of art at the time, but they look tacky to us today, like a cheap action figure. The polished, white marble statue has gravitas to it and speaks to a romanticised bygone era of heroes and valor. But sure, nazis, nazis, nazis, white supremacy, something something racism. Go away you boring man.

When I studied painting all the Renaissance master surviving paints were in dark hues and my art classes always had students working in dark color avoiding the bright colors street artists liked to use. Back then serious artists used blacks and greys. Then they started to restore those old paintings and it turned out the Italians in 16th Century Rome liked the same bright colors that people do today. The lesson: don't use the brooding images of the past to judge what seems like fun today. Live your life in the current moment with what ever joy comes your way.

It's also because it looks aesthetically pleasing.

What about the millions of statues in churches that have been painted?

@@pieternoordenbos Perhaps because that comes out of a different line of tradition. In the churches what you have is icons of saints...this grew out of late antiquity and the middle ages, whereas with the Renaissance one sees an attempt to reach back to the classical world...and when that was done, the statues they looked to were bare stone, so that became the fashion for monuments and art, while the churches continued on with their own traditional ways (mostly).

To be honest the statues that are painted rarely look good. It's also just an aesthetic choice.

The medieval period was quite colorful. Some of the fashion trends were just crazy colorful. Also people in the Middle Ages weren’t dirty nor did they stink. They believed in the theory of miasma so bad smell was to be avoided.

​@@raskolnikov6443it's kinda funny that when movies became "realistic" and gritty they are actually less realistic the the more campy stuff from before. Like 70's movies had all the color and people where not covered in dirt

That somehow makes wonder if they were colorful enough to Fit into a RWBY show?

No, very few people wore bright colors like you think of... they wore colors yes but strong colors were hard to get and the ones that you can get faded quickly or oxidized into not great colors. Yes there were colors in the most lavish of things but most people couldn't afford that. You are just screwing up history in the other way in service of your feelings, you feel that others were dumb and you are jerking the steering wheel the other way. Just because people loved to wear different colors also doesn't mean they had the money to do so.

Shadiversity did a video about a castle he was touring and pointed out places where the stone walls still had traces of paint on them.

A KZfaqr named Adam Something did just that and it was stupid. Thankfully, a dissident KZfaqr named Ubersoy responded to that video. Note that I said dissident because while he is socially very right wing, thus considered "far right", he is very left wing economically. He is not a traditionalist however. I still don't agree with some of his views on morality as I align more with traditionalists.

Why would anyone think that the marble color represented skin color anyway? That's right up there with milk representing "white supremacy." People are dumb.

Not really stupid (although I initially thought that as well). The partially painted sculptures were found in the middle ages as well, but were contributed to the barbarians and their vandalism. Later on (19th century and onwards) they would be purposefully removed because the idea of colorful statues was considered to be too tacky for the civilized Europeans and something that is more appropriate for the decadent Orient. Some of those articles might be overly concentrated on the white supremacist political propaganda, but there is some good information in there as well. I recommend reading the ones from NewYorker and DW.

Poe’s law (it’s impossible to satire or parody extremist views)

There are some 8 billion humans on this planet. Each human has their own beliefs that are in a constant state of _review and revision_ . You may as well be "disappointed" that humans fart. Opinions disappate like farts in a sand storm. Why go out of your way to _'sniff them out'_ .

True, the Stone Age would happen again if a total blackout happened.

We are ants atop the heads of giants, we are.

Makes you wonder if we're ripe for another collapse.

​@@robertbeisert3315 What color were they before your ancestors colonise the world 🌎

​@@Battle_One What color were they before your ancestors colonize the world 🌍

Intresting

Hmmmm, very good observation, it does make a lot is sense.

Marble Mannequins... Sounds expensive lol.

Mmh... Sorry but not!!!! If you talk about "Riace bronzes"....Two warriors find in the 80s... They are a classic Greek figures (surely with spears and shields lost on sea) and like any other classicist Greek opera they was naked...like heros or Olympic sportsman.... because they believe in the beautyfullness of the primordial human being!!!!! So Naked!!!!!😅😅😅 Greetings from Italy an Italian former mountain trooper Alpini 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

​@@DH-xw6jp Not marble, bronze

"how can we know where we are going if we don't know where we come from. " Aim for the landmark. You wake up on a boat with no memory of how you got there, but you see a beacon off in the distance. That would be a good choice of destination.

And yet you actually believe Metatron knows History? That's offensive to the past!! Because Metatron doesn't know History, and is nothing but a Bull sh*tter!

Archeologists and historians and astronomers make a lot of assumptions based on limited data.

The gleaming white marble fitted European misconceptions of Greece and Rome, despite _Greek and Roman writers_ referring to painted statuary.

@@julietfischer5056 Marble comes in other colors too. There's green marble which the Romans obtained from the island of Euboia, Greece where I live.

@@julietfischer5056what were the colors they said were used?

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Did this student also ask why the Romans went through all the trouble of having a regular 1/1000 slope for their aquaducts, while purposely keeping some sections broken ?

@Duke_of_Lorraine Ha ha ha, no, but it was probably coming next!

I wonder if they ever painted the heads of cocks in a bright, eager red colour... Maybe a bright, pulsating pink colour for the inner labia of other statues. The variety of colours for statue nipples could keep paint-sellers in business for years!!

@@Duke_of_LorraineDo tell? Genuinely asking btw..

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This does happen more often than you'd think in poor areas. Newly constructed "buildings" in the slums are constructed from trash thrown away by others. You think you are above the dumb thinking of others while doing your own sort of dumb thinking.

That's the case for a lot of games where you can build. Things look way too "rustic" despite being newly built. It can make sense in some games where you're building out of old scrap material, but then you also have weird random placements of boards and stuff that makes it look like a toddler built it.

I mean, I am willing to believe they would use already rusty steel for building in such a shithole. But decaying wood is much less believable.

I wonder if that is a sign of grey supremacy?! 🙃

@@ronald3836 👽History Channel believes so

I bet romans and greeks knew how to thin their paints. Nuln oil for everyone (hobby reference)

@@ConcernedPmGhost Turpentine, perhaps

Exactly! If you look at the frescoes, the Romans clearly knew how to make very realistic paintings, but for their statues, they used like five basic tones?! It's beyond ridiculous.

@@irena4545- The statues were seen at various times of day and in various seasons. Many were out in the open, vulnerable to the weather. Their paints may have been formulated for longevity or ease of mixing. An indoor fresco had only one viewing angle, and plenty of protection.

@@julietfischer5056 What determines the durability of the paint is the base, not the colours. If you can make multiple reds and layer them with one base then you have the ability to do it with others. Finished works are also glazed to protect them from touch, weather, and so on. The actual answer most recreations suck is because they're done by amateurs, not professionals.

@@rambunctiousvegetable yep the endless absurd conversations coming from US owning of the world "caucasian" as kinda Aryan n*zi type. Oh my 🙄

@@rambunctiousvegetable Sure, but Caucasian is the word that is used and everybody understands.

​@@ronald3836 that's because most people are dumb. Let's not change word definition for the uneducated. We already have homophobic and transphobic which would imply a fear of guys or "trans" people. In reality they use as hate for rather than fear of.

Albino supremacy

So your college teacher skipped out on classes to make a video game, and the biggest thing you got out of the class was what the game was going to look like. AM I correct in your explanation? If so I wonder if you are one of those that are looking for your college loans to be forgiven cause you know....your education wasn't worth a shit.

Why didn’t she tell them that ancient Greeks werent black or Arab?

@@BBeowulf There are black Greeks and Arabs in the game ? I think I saw only one black woman, but that's not a big deal. I don't think the contracted historians have a say in the PC squad's decisions and the diversity aims of the devs.

​@@BBeowulfBecause there are no black and Arab Greeks in the game.

So she robbed you of your classes, and you worshipped her in return. How disgusting!

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I don’t know this part of history. Did actually the Reformation harm artistic expression in Europe? This is very interesting and tells about the lack of art and taste in modern western civilisation a lot.

Max Weber's The Protestant Ethic and The Spirit of Capitalism is a staple in sociology for a reason. ;) - Indeed, viewing the world from a purely economic perspective, as the very foundation of modern civilization, is completely unheard of until the 16th century: Prior, the relation to/ worshipping of God/the Gods had to be expressed collectively in the outer world, to have any real meaning. Now, it becomes all about the individual and his ascetic-"rational" behavior to amass/invest/save as many bank notes as possible, to prove his personal worth before said God: Any ornament, any smallest excess, becomes a "sin" .

It took a long time for us to understand lightfastness, and consistently manufacture paints that fade slowly.. Most people now probably have no idea how fugitive many pigments used in previous centuries were.

Offering some nuance. There are certain denominations of Christians that take the 1st (or 2nd) commandment about having no graven images in a way that most or all arts related to religion are basically idolatry. I’m thinking of the kind of church that is basically a bland office room or warehouse. Admittedly there are plenty of other Protestant Christians that greatly value beauty and religious images, like high church Lutherans and Anglicans. So it depends on the denomination. But generally speaking, before the reformation, all apostolic Christians, the Catholics and Orthodox, were incredibly invested in religious art in statues, architecture, paintings, etc. Interestingly, there was a fair amount of controversy over religious images even before the reformation with Iconoclasm (they destroyed religious images) and perhaps Gnosticism (since they believe the physical world is evil and the spiritual world is good). The Cathars in the 1200s are sometimes recognized as proto-Protestants, and as Manichaean Dualists they were pretty iconoclastic too. Apparently the Reformation Protestants often found a foothold where Cathars used to be. However these were ultimately condemned as heresy and died out, but the Reformation on the other hand still has ties to today and it largely revived iconoclast thinking in certain areas. I assume their general argument was something like “focus on Jesus, religious art is a distraction”, while apostolic Christians and high church Protestants believed that religious art was precisely a way to honor God. So yes, the reformation plays a big role in the lack of beauty in modern western civilization. Even though some still honor beautiful images, some don’t, and even when a culture becomes secular this iconoclast tradition can be carried on. There’s even an argument to be made that the reformation sowed the seeds for modernism and relativism in our day, stemming from their rejection of a central ecclesial authority, effectively making every individual their own “pope,” being the sole interpreter of scripture, and from there people can become the sole interpreter of any matter of truth, morals, and probably beauty.

@@killianmiller6107 Luther created modern art, got it.

There are 19th century oil paintings of temples in Egypt after being dug up, some with remains of color decorations. Faded by today, but it was still visible during the first half of the 19th century.

I don't know about your country, but here in Italy we learn these things in early school actually. We have several subjects dedicated to the study of the arts, so this is basic knowledge.

Same in Ireland, young children's history books represent the statues, temples, clothing, hairstyles correctly. It also works both ways, whites have been plating, braiding, deadlocking hair in Ireland for thousands of years for example.

@@mds_main It depends on the stigma behind our methods of literally digging into the past. The UK and other countries in Europe are much more open to archaeology and the resulting historical information garnered by the practice. The US and Canada are much more careful in order to be sensitive to the lifeways of people from Indigenous nations. The fact that archaeology-related topics AREN’T taught about in US schools is an actual, present day debate in the field of anthropology.

No. It's because of old habits. It's also cheaper to have white marble than to get marble and get a specialised painter to paint it.

I like to imagine most castles being quickly and cheaply made however. These are weapons of war meant to last long periods of time under siege. You don’t need a fortress to be brightly colored and a work of art when being grey and mundane allows it to not only blend in with its surroundings but it gives it a sense of redundancy and standardization.

@@therealspeedwagon1451 This is not true though. Castles were primarily used as a home for the noble that lived in it that also just so happened to contain space for soldiers defending the lord. They were fortified due to the “Balkanized” nature of Europe at the time and how frequently raids and feuds occurred on the local level. Fortresses that existed purely for martial reasons did not start to exist until maybe the 1500s after the Middle Ages when feudalism was ending and nation-states were starting to form, and therefore there was less conflict on a local level but instead on a national level.

Everyone was just covered in poo back in the day. 😂 How widespread the lack of any basic logic is shows how little we’ve evolved from our earlier simian forms.

@@VOTE_REFORM_UK I mostly agree with you But ancient Romans may built fortresses for army purposes. Ancient Egiptians surelu did to guard their territories. In medieval knights were more independent than nobility in ancient times.

@@therealspeedwagon1451 What you like to imagine was wrong. Whitewashing the castle walls was pretty much standard practice. Also made it look like a much grander building, which is obviously what rulers and nobles would want.

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But if the pigments (or more of them) had survived we would get a more accurate idea of what they had initially looked.

@@kaltaron1284 It would be great. But we have some decent DNA reconstructions, right? That's pretty cool.

​@@user-vp3nh5qs9slol consider getting help for that copium addiction, and get back to your cave 😂.

@@user-vp3nh5qs9s Obvious troll is obvious.

I remember learning how purple used to be one of the more expensive colors to make, thus it was associated with wealth and royalty. How true is that?

@@rixille Pretty true in the mediterranean area. During antiquity, purple dye and pigments were very hard to make. Tyrian purple was extracted from sea snails in a process that took a lot of time, and as a result was very expensive. Due to that high cost, only the richer classes (noble and royalty) were able to afford it and it became a symbol of prestige, and it became known as royal purple. In some other regions there were other way to obtain purple pigments (for example, China used plants as a way to get a different purple hue). As a result, purple wasn't as highly regarded as in europe during the Classical and Medieval era.

@@rixille Purple was expensive, yes - but there is the additional layer of being legalized. Purple was often reserved for the highest office and you were prohibited to wear purple. To wear purple was interpreted as aspiring to be king. Well, you can imagine how that would have worked with the actual king and how it would be punished.

@@rixille its called royal-purple for a reason

​@@rixille Not all purple, but only the shade we know as royal purple, the color is still worn by Catholic cardinals. Back then thst particular shade was obtained from a type of shelled mollusk living in the Mediterranean. Somebody had to dive into the sea to get the molkusks ( sea snails), then they had to be processed, according to Pliny the elder thousands of snails were needed to produce an ounce of dye, the process was long and intricate thus making the die extremely expensive.

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@@user-vp3nh5qs9s but enough about the primates

​@@user-vp3nh5qs9sCaucasians!

@@user-vp3nh5qs9s get out of here troll!

I dont let my woman wear makup for the same reason,im not about that fake life..

Supposing those survive, we know those figures are not too durable

@@zanir2387 - can we have a little fun? The pewter and lead ones might survive. The lead ones might lead to theories about why we were so violent.

​@@zanir2387plastic is pretty durable, and takes a long time to break down... so even if the glue breaks down, the parts might survive and I might be exactly like reassembling the bits, like a stone statute.

If they find my friend's models, they would have a lot of questions about how we understood physiology and proportions, for example"why does this human form have massive arms, twice the size of a normal human?"... I see my friends models and I have a lot of questions, and I fully understand what he was trying to do...

@@PB-tr5ze Warhammer Venus di Milo

The "dark ages" are only dark, because almost all written sources from back then have been destroyed. It's not that they didn't write, far from it, but most all of it has been lost in fires and accidents, some of it purposely destroyed, to hide evidence or fit a narrative, just like modern government destroys inconvenient documents.

"Dark ages" was a term invented by Enlightenment scholars as a way of putting down the Catholic church, since it dominated Europe in that period. While I'm no defender of the church, and I agree with much of what the Enlightenment accomplished (especially regarding concepts of individual rights and democratic governance), I think it is a real shame that most people still tend to think of the "middle ages" (a put-down invented during the Renaissance) as a time of complete darkness and ignorance. When I was a European History teacher I tried to dispel that notion, at least for my students. It is my favorite period of history.

They missed a big time by not including lack of paint into the assassin's creed world conspiracy. That the idea of white sculptures exist to hide something and in rennesaince it was templates that scrubbed the sculptures off.

What color were they before your ancestors colonize the world 🌎 Black

@@user-vp3nh5qs9s Go to hill richard.

@@user-vp3nh5qs9sblacks not a colour 🤦‍♂️

@@user-vp3nh5qs9s Lol no writing and no wheel in Africa until Portuguese said hello. 40,000 years aboriginals inhabited Aussieland- invented a stick. Even today, worthless people. There's sub-Saharans, and then there is the rest of humanity who don't have an average IQ of 85. But, surely 'we waz kangs' overrides these facts.

​@@user-vp3nh5qs9sWtf are you talking about?

Aw, American classes about history tends to be rather slapdash. "So here's some proof of evolution, and here's some Clovis spearpoints to prove that humans killed off the mastadons in Canada, and we'll skip ahead to the Civil War, but mostly talk about how bad slavery is, then skip the World Wars to focus on how Vietnam proved we're jerks for messing with other countries." And now I'm sure they'll be adding entire lessons on how Trump tried to take over the world through social media but "the right side of history" managed to stop him. (Speaking as someone who isn't particularly fond of Trump's style, they've still accused him of ten times what he actually did. It's sad, and makes out country look like a pack of idiots. But for some reason, the people who don't like it here won't leave.)

*As a Greek, you should be angry at how Anglo, Saxon, and Germanic peoples have used your culture as the basis of "Western Civilization" whilst leaving actual Greeks out of the ideal they've created.* To them you're nothing more than tanned Celts.

@@giannismentz3570 *Those are the same Greeks with a little more of everyone else mixed in as Alexander wanted.* The belief that the people who live in an area are no the same people as their ancestors is a product of northern Europeans' supremacists mythology. Obviously, you remembered every BS they taught you in school.

Despite the ower focus on the south in the scoolbooks here i always loved the aincient mediterranian, particulary around the Levant, I highly reccomend Jacques Cousteaus original books when he and he's team where diving in the sea of the the Greek coast before all those remnants had been disturbed. That is a real hidden herritage of global dignity most tourists are completely unaware of those days. Both You and I should be proud of our ancestors and the history of the respective part of the world we are coming from and the amazing history we are blessed to be a part of!

@@giannismentz3570 μπα, τα ιδια καθαρματα με εμας σημερα, ηταν και εκεινοι τοτε.

Prostagma. Leje? Vulome. Malista. Kalos. Esvoli!

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​@@user-vp3nh5qs9s Please, stop spamming everywhere.

@@user-vp3nh5qs9s I'm sure we were a middle-light shade of brown when my mother side were still headhunters and a little mestizo on my father's side. I'm filipino.

Most academics are willing, the methods (historical and scientific) produce the goods to the point where you really can't ignore the results haha

The people painting these statues don't have the skill to replicate the color, nor the shape.

Yeah, over the course of thousands of years all those layers of paint eventually begins to wear off leaving only the base coating. Of course they layered their sculptures to make them look more realistic.

Do mind that getting paint in antiquity was a far harder endavour than today. That may very well have been what the top skill looked like, because that's simply what tools they had.

​@@A_B_1917 You only have to look at the frescos in Pompeii to see that Roman painters knew what they were doing. The reason why the " restored" colors look ridiculous is because what you are seeing are the results of poor quality photoshop layering

​@@Fankas2000They vould hire specialised painters. Frescoes were painted. There were many craftsman dedicated to the art.

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I click KZfaq , I see Metatron !

Don’t we all?

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@@jonathancortez3003 What color were they before your ancestors colonize the world 🌎 Black

if you actually think the met museum, staffed by some of the top art historians in the world, is literally so stupid as to be stumped by something like this then i suggest you do a little more reading. what they said which caused such controversy is that white supremacists latched onto the fiction of white marble statues, and built their grand historical myths around it. they did not say the renaissance sculptors were nazis because that would be insane.

: Was the Met _really_ propping up that Silly Idea? Or were they saying that the fact some people think that made them adress the original color of the art, but with the flaw that they didn't debʊnk that mɨsconçeption? That would still be a "Polɨtɨcal reason", but the article that Raf is quoting from is not from the Met's website- it seems to be a ʟeft-wɨng website that perhaps the Met's representative was pɑndeɾing to by Cɾɨme of Not Refʊting- but the Met's actual website, which I trust more then any second hand source about the Muesuem's beliefs, does not mention it.

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@@user-vp3nh5qs9s Are you one of those crazy delusional people who think everyone in the classical Mediterranean world was black? Not even real African tribal people/ nations define themselves as "black" but by their language/culture/traditions... you don't have a real culture or your own native language so you have to practice the inverse racism of those who ripped you away from the real culture of your ancestors. Race don't mean shit, culture does.

I heard something very similar, seeing how many Roman mosaics are I can't think that they painted with such flat colours, possibly they would use many more leftovers and shades that were lost with the passing of time.

@@m.r.6760 my thoughts exactly. It doesn't look right.

Neanderthals Europeans cave men and cave dwellers

I think part of the reason some people think of classical as all white (at least for people in the US), is all of the interpretations of it in Washington DC are basically all white.

Actually, color is "disappearing" in our global cultural paradigm. Home design, architecture, product design, clothes ; name it. Color has been disappearing fast in the last decades and everything is now in shades of white, grey, black, etc. There's some very interesting graphics about it. Main reason for that : neutral tones are easier to sell in a universal scale, hence why big multinational companies create neutral white/grey/black products that are more versatile. Same thing for home design ; it's easier to sell a neutral looking home/appartement than one with flashy colors. But I would add the prominence of VERY colourful screens and lights in our life to the reasons as well. We're constantly looking at our phones, computers, etc. We're actually saturated by colors and magnificient image of ever greater quality, which, in my opinion, makes us reach for more neutral environment in the "real" world. And there's kind of a color renewal with the extensive use of led lights to create ambiance in rooms or public places though, but it's like we don't really want to commit to one in particular, we want it to be dynamic.

@@pscm9447 I honesty think the fact that homes and buildings today are drab in color really fits in with our global paradigm: are lives are drab and the only things that are bright and colorful are the fake images on our screens. I love neutrals but man, is modern architecture depressing. The fact that grey is the "new color" in new American homes makes me want to c*t myself

I dissent a bit. The scie fi authoritharian dystopian frame can be accurate for today west folks but for a Renassaince artist it was about re-enacting the vitality of classical culture (wrongly thought as "white" ) and was also in a cultural frame of art - perfection , light, eternity, archetypal essentiality. And also lavish , prestige materials. Michelangelo wasn't dreaming of dystopian totalitarianism, was all about achieving and showing the world timeless beauty in longest lasting material he could use and with the brightest result. A forever shining archetype of beauty and virtue (which beyond colours was indeed a very darling idea to classical world, good and beautiful get along together). And so I guess than in our current cultural frame at least as weterners / west influenced people we tend to perceive the whiteness in most of statues more commomly in a classical and Renassaince (beauty and culture standing the test of time)key than some Kubrik Odissey visual (I feel kinda frozen when I see those scenes😳)

Historical movies with this accurate description of Classical and Medieval times would be so great by the way.

Pignments, particularly those that would fade, were themselves luxury items in Classical times. To adorn a statue with color was to display one's wealth and power. The interior of most Classical buildings attest to this. The rich could afford decoration.

That's an interesting point I hadn't considered. Many things that were considered the norm back then are now considered a luxury and vice versa due to changes in either supply or demand. With modern logistics, stone is no longer necessarily a locally quarried and used good; whether it be quality marble, or aggregate destined for use in concrete. That said, there has also been a lot of research lately that suggests that less colour is used in consumer products today than just a few decades ago; brands and companies are more likely to play it safe nowadays when it comes to colour in consumer goods. Modern fabrication and mass-manufacture has led to a decreased emphasis on making products unique to a physical location, as this narrows the potential consumer base. As most statues are no longer bespokely made, there are fewer patrons that will be complaining about the lack of a life-like complexion on the statue of their beloved subject.

@@OutOfNamesToChoose I'd also argue that colors tend to track with trends. For example, there was a period in the 80-90's where bright, clashing and cartooney colors were popular. This transitioned into blacks, greys and silvers around 2000, and we are mostly still in that era today, albeit with a much stronger emphasis on single-tone themes brought on by Apple's color and material design language.

@@GhostOnTheHalfShell yes, another good point, thanks. Because of the industrialisation and artificial colors now you can buy any color dirt cheap from any local store, but in the classical times some pigment was almost as expensive and as the stone itself was.

@@thrustvectoring8120 have you also noticed that today colours for goods in general seem different from yesterday goods , not only for style and trend change but also for brilliance and I'd dare to say "texture"? Same tones looking like they have different chemical formula and different at touch. I have friends into design and furniture production who joke a lot about "the good old intoxicating colours" 😁 btw history of colours , their changing meaning thru the ages and context and the way they were/are produced is such an incredibile rabbit hole. It can tell us so much.

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Not all, but enough to require a rebuilding of the realm of knowledge.

Not all our history is wrong, it's just ever evolving and unfortunately most people only interact with it at school and so gain a vague education of the understanding at their time.

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@@archiebf4524 My greater point was the old adage, "History is written by the Victors." So much is lost. Quite often; the higher culture was overrun by savages and libraries burned. If anybody is going to uncover the ancient texts, when they become deciphered, I know Metatron will give us a video. Just saying.

That’s tragic, people in charge of those things should have a higher regard for restoring them not re imagining them. I love learning new information about history that goes outside what I had thought prior, I’m sure most of the visiting school kids would’ve too had they been given the chance.

I remember my uncle telling me that all those now white cottages seen all over the county would have been painted originally in a shade known as Suffolk Pink - allegedly made from either pigs blood for the darker shade or blackcurrants for the lighter shade mixed in with the lime wash.

I was recently in Canterbury and they are in the process of restoring the structure, which includes cleaning centuries of accumulated dust and grime from the walls, buttresses, and spires. The stone is suddenly so bright! We tend to imagine "gothic" cathedrals as grey or dark-colored...when first completed they must have gleamed like beacons to people for miles around. I wish I could go back once they finish the restoration and just take it in.

@njhoepner Good point. You could say the same about interiors. We are used to seeing oak furniture as dark, in some cases almost black, but when it was constructed five hundred years ago, the wood was a light honey colour. This is also true of the flooring and any exposed beams. If you take that into account, suddenly the past becomes a much brighter place.

@@shonagriffiths8907 We likely have a lot of things wrong in terms of what we think the past looked like.

Except for Ronald Hutton, one of my favourite people

Please don’t insult tent makers - St. Paul the Apostle supported himself by making & repairing tents until he “appealed to the Emperor”, when the authorities in Jerusalem tried to kill him in 55 A.D.

@Jcdoyel - The exhibition Gods in Color has been touring the world in one form or another since 2003. So it is not even known in academic circles for a long time but public exhibitions that tours the world and I have seen it myself, but it was nothing new to me at the time.

@@TraditionalAnglican You mean the person who imagined to have been in the third heaven and heard voices in his head claiming to communicate with a god? That puts him on the same level as someone claiming to be abducted by aliens and getting messages from aliens on Beteigeuze.

Lots of university programs have accurately taught people that ancient statues and buildings used color. It is pretty common if you had even a single art history 101 course.

Of course they were Italians, the Romans originated in Latium, a region in central Italy. Originally they were part of a group of tribes living on the banks of the Tiber river who referred to themselves as Latini. The way a Roman village or town would have looked would have been different according to the time period. Roman history spans a period between 753 BC, the traditional date for the foundation of Rome to 476 AD the year of the fall of the western Roman empire that is more than 1200 years of history.

@esmeraldagreen1992 what i meant by that is the overall style appearance of their environment would appear Italian to people today

What color were they before your ancestors colonise the world 🌎 Black

@@user-vp3nh5qs9s If the marble they were made of was black.. it will be at least gray today :) Oh yes.. there is a black marble :) And colonising the world does not have anything to do with that.

​@@user-vp3nh5qs9sWhy are you so jealous?

@@scorchedearth4248its a fucking bot, check every comment's reply

@@scorchedearth4248 We are the oldest people on earth we are 7 million years old white Europeans are only 45 hundred years old white Europeans were the last species to arrive on earth 🤔

in that case you are lucky to have this kind of people in your life. good for you

That’s good, as the person above me said lucky too. Thankfully I didn’t have teachers pushing political ideology when I was in history class but with that being said they also didn’t make sure that everything they taught was accurate unfortunately. Well 18 years of learning history independently have fixed that issue.

What color were they before your ancestors colonize the world 🌎 Black

The painters would’ve used shades, fine details and techniques to give the statues a lifelike appearance.

​@@user-vp3nh5qs9sThey weren't black.

​@@user-vp3nh5qs9sromans definitly are not Black lol...

@@user-vp3nh5qs9s stop being a racist spaming nonsense everywhere.

What color were they before your ancestors colonize the world 🌍

@@user-vp3nh5qs9s People were the various colors of their various regions. Just like this channel describes.

Neanderthals Europeans cave men and cave dwellers

Given how many technologies we know to have been lost, it's not at all unlikely that they had such pigments worked out in some places.

What color were they before your ancestors colonise the world 🌎 Black

​@@robertbeisert3315what color were they before your ancestors colonize the world 🌎 Black

They're all a bunch of loonies. I keep running into black Hebrew Israelites, the terrorist group, everywhere online. Also indo supremacists who believe that ancient India was full of flying cars and space ships.

'Real' history, wow so this is what KZfaq is reduced to. Someone who posts videos with strong neo-fascist overtones is a 'historian' because there are thousands of idiots who want to be feed this slop. Historians are NEVER popular. No true HISTORIAN was a rock star and most people cannot tell you the name of one historian. True history is pretty boring and the average person will fall asleep 15 minutes into it. Sadly this is the nature of truth: it turns out to be boring. Quantum physics, advanced mathematics, complex philosophy, and history done properly will only attract a handful of people. The masses want fantasy and KZfaq is providing plenty of unqualified 'experts' to feed what ever they want to believe. I even saw a video by leftists in the UK that had a black female actress presenting herself as a worker in the 1970s and talking about how she had life time work and benefits provided to her along with free education. The process of exploitation of the past happens the second a moment has passed. People in the United States are talking about cheap gas during the last Trump years as if they was some wonderful policy that benefited everyone, they have utterly censored the fact that gas got cheap, to the point US producers could not compete, because of CoVid lock downs bringing the demand for gasoline radically down. When I lived in Tunisia I was struck by how Hannibal was seen as a hero. Hannibal was responsible for the destruction of Carthage. In France people still respect Bonaparte despite the fact he ruined France. Many Greeks still see Alexander as a hero despite his family's war and destruction of much of Greece. If I had my way I would restrict the study of history to old people and a few autistic people. I have found that every time people talk about history they are planning something evil.

Who said that white marble was used because of white "supremacists "ideology? Why even respond to such foolishness? Instead why not address the real outcome of the Cairo symposium,or melanin test of pre-dynastic and old kingdom Egyptian mummies? You choose the battles nobody else is trying to fight and avoid questions and answers that are difficult for you to address. nobody's trying to " rewrite"history, just right a wrong. If you were really interested in the truth you would understand that

@@BobHooker Woah... aren't we lucky you won't get your way. Metatron is neo-fascist? What? How? Why? I haven't seen any evidence of that.

These books, Fifty Famous Roman Men, The history of Julius Caesar, Trollops Life of Cicero, Life in the Times of Cicero. The TV series Rome was quite accurate in subtle ways. too historic technical for the average TV viewer methinks.

@@joefish6091 I liked the way the writer wove fictional stories about ordinary people in with real historical figures and history. Allowed a look behind the curtain.