In summation, your honor: 1. If you're writing to comment that the sub tab working for you, great. But the number of people using the tab is declining likely because it isn't working for them. 2. This is not a complaint about declining views but rather thumbnail impressions. Clicking the subscribe button doesn't mean what KZfaq viewers think it means. KZfaq's AI decides what you're really subscribed to. 3. Giving users more control over the subscription tab by providing some filtering and sorting options would go a long way to making things better for everyone.

The problem with the Home feed is that it's practically unusable. The other day I watched a video from a tech channel about him restoring an Australian car, it was a one-off video on this guys channel and it was pretty cool. KZfaq then decided that my Home feed needed to be entirely dedicated to this one particular brand of car, even though the video didn't really emphasize it that much. Any time you want to watch something outside of the algorithm, it overcorrects so hard that it believes that one thing you just watched is your new passion. I often have to open a video in a Private tab with ad-block just to see if it's interesting.

funnily enough youtube recommended THIS video on my homepage, this is the first from your channel in a really really really long time

You’re right about the Subscriptions tab, Lon; it’s a huge mess. It wouldn’t matter too much if the recommendations worked properly. I sometimes see the same video recommended every day for almost a week. Yet I rarely see videos from channels I subscribe to.

I almost never use the main page of KZfaq because it's based on the videos you already watched, not your subs. I always use the sub "tab" to get the videos from the people I sub to. Works fine for me and the videos are ordered by the time and date they are uploaded. Live streams will always show at the top and below them comes the uploaded videos.

One of the reasons that I use my subscriptions tab as my main way of watching content. I always go there first and once I have finished watching the ones that look interesting I then go to my feed. But I don't subscribe to channels which post many videos a day. So for me in a 24 hour period there are maybe 100 new videos to scroll through.

On my wish list is to Ignore a specific channel that keep getting thrown on my home page.

I turned off watch history about a year ago, and subscription is thusly my primary "home" feed. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like KZfaq's attempt at "punishing" me with this whole "Your watch history is off" thing is a total failure on their part. If they had a better tool for blocking channels I *DO NOT* want to go to, *especially* in their searching tools, then maybe I'd feel they were making the effort at being less consumer hostile. For some reason, YT seems to think large marketshare = loyalty. Folks will start jumping ship once they find their niche requirements. And there goes your ad dollars. Fix it, KZfaq!

When I watch one or two videos on a new topic, KZfaq decides that's all I want to see and it's like 50% that topic even if I tell KZfaq I'm not interested. I have to go and delete the watched video. It seems like subscriptions barely even matter unless you watch almost everything they upload. Plenty of channels, even ones that I watch(ed) a lot have gone complete radio silence even though the creator is uploading regularly. I wonder if KZfaq is weighting what they show you for monetization first.

I'm honored to be a part of your RSS feed Lon. I followed the posts over on X - and I agree 100% with you. The subscriptions feed is busted - as are notifications. I'm subscribed to you with full notifications, none disabled on my device, yet only saw this video on the homepage - quite possibly because I've followed you on this topic. Thanks for calling this out and hopefully we see KZfaq come up with a better feature set for subscribers.

In desktop Chrome on my PC I've started bookmarking my favorite creators. And I've sorted all the bookmarks into categories. So when I sit down and I'm in the mood for tech news... I can open all those creators' channel pages in separate tabs to find something to watch. Same for automotive channels, audio/video (like Curtis Judd!), photography, etc. It's a manual process... but it works for me on the desktop. Though on my iPhone or iPad I'm usually just looking for something quick to watch. So I typically just scroll through the algorithmic feed on those devices. 😎

Interesting info. I didn’t even know the home page showed my subscriptions. I only use the subscriptions tab to look for content I want to view. I do scroll through the subscriptions feed until I come across a video I’ve seen to know I’m caught up. I do unsub from channels I don’t watch anymore to keep my feed managable

I do use the Subscriptions page/tab probably 80% of the time when I'm browsing KZfaq, but Lon is right about it being sub-optimal in a lot of ways. I purposely avoid subscribing to certain channels like local news channels or tech conferences that post a whole block of videos at once to avoid them clogging up my feed. I find myself scrolling back (on desktop) A LOT and then just "open in new tab" until I've got a whole queue of videos to fill up the time I happen to have available.

Something I've noticed as of late, as someone who doesn't use notifications and does most of my YT viewing on a computer. I got used to just looking for the little dot signifying new content next to the channel name on the left side of the screen. It used to be that when you clicked the "more" link at the bottom of your list, you were shown an exhaustive list of your subs, but now it only maximizes to show some number of them, leaving the rest "below the fold" as it were. The only place to see them is on the subscriptions page, and even then, there is no dot to signify new content on the subs page. Very frustrating.

The problem with KZfaq is that the subscription feed is based on niche categories that the computerized recommendation system thinks you like at the moment. However, the instant you discover another niche (mistakably or otherwise), your homepage is going to get inundated with videos from that category. Now, the question arises, and is true for almost any social media platform (not just KZfaq). What's it with the social media industry and being averse to chronological timelines?

It MATTERS so much to me, it keeps me watching most of their video uploads everyday on the subscription tab! When I get tired of a channel (rare occasion) I Unsubscribe. I NEVER click any notification bell. I only go to homepage when I have exhausted/consumed the newest uploads on my subscription page to look for new/fresh content. For example I kept subscribe to Green Ham Gaming TV even when that dude went dormant for years before focusing back on youtube, or to Jermgaming even when he has not made a new video in 3 years or more! I just think they have personal lives to take care of and deserves some time off or they found other careers. When we click the Subscription tab we should see all the uploads of channels we are subscribed to chronologically, youtube shouldn't mess with our programmed list! When I watch video topics that I dont want youtube bombarding me with, right click open in INCOGNITO or on another browser that is not logged in!

So true re Curtis Judd and many others. His vids hardly ever go to my recommended home page. Oft-times some of the recommended videos are so random. I utilize the "do not recommend channel" often, but the algorithm still sends stuff to that has baffled me for yrs. Thanks Ron for the explanation of what many of us suspected anyway. BTW I would not purchase an audio product for filmmaking without watching Curtis' take on it

I always use the Subscriptions feed myself but it does have some big problems. What I encounter most often is that I may not be on KZfaq for a few days so I have a long feed to get caught up on. I have to keep the feed open in my browser and then make sure that I right click on each video and open it in a separate tab. If I just click on each video and then go back, the page starts back at the top of the feed. Even worse is when I leave my browser open on the feed to come back to later and Windows has decided to do an auto restart for updates, so I lose my place in the feed and have to keep scrolling down to find where I left off. There needs to be a way to keep track of where you left off in the feed and to have the videos sorted oldest to newest from that point. Also the feed on the mobile app refreshes itself if I am casting videos to my TV and starts me back at the top constantly.

Same here. I've been subscribed to him for years. I've used his videos to decide what mics and recorders to use.

That's interesting, but this explains why I see everything. My YT bookmark is to the /feed/subscription link so I always see what my channels have uploaded. After I've gone through that I'll go to the home link to see some random stuff. But, if I see a subbed channel video in the home link then I mark it "Don't recommend Channel" because I use the home link to browse random videos I might want to check out. Showing me what I've already subbed to on there is (for me) pointless as I'll have already seen it. Well, that's how I do it anyway... I should note that I use an extension (Ublock) to clean up the YT site (hide shorts, clean up the sidebar etc), so it make it a much cleaner interface - similar to old YT.

Had not seen your stuff for a long time I had to actually search you up for it to start recommending videos again.

As a podcaster, I actually only use the Subscription tab and bookmarked it in my browser. I figured I subscribe to a channel, I expect to find it there. Only the last few months I have been exploring the Home tab.

This is one reason why I've never used KZfaqs home page. I bookmark my subscription page so it opens directly to that and have done so since the beginning. All my videos show up in order from all the creators I subscribe to. On mobile I do the same with a modified version of KZfaq. The homepage is filled with crap I don't care about, this way I avoid the clutter and see only the stuff I care about. Every day I will go through the videos my creators upload and mark the ones I'm interested in as "save to watch later". I've rolled this way for 15 years or more.

Finally enough, I have not seen one of your videos since I had subscribe only today. This is the first time I’ve seen one of your videos after I subscribed months ago.

I always wished KZfaq had some kind of sub-folder system to manage your subscriptions, so I could organize youtubers by topic. Putting gaming related subs in a group, politics in anothet, Computing, History, Space Exploration, etc. Then you could go into rach group and see all the new videos posted by all the youtubers in that group or drill down individually, the click on another group to look at and list the videos for that group, etc

Three of my favorite channels, I watch every single video, I'm subscribed, and I clicked the bell. The one channel I even went back and watched every single video from the back catalog before I subscribed to the channel. Many of the videos I have even rewatched. I rarely if ever get notifications from them. #lawnerd #lawtube #RSS #ham

I almost exclusively use the subscriptions tab to view videos and haven't missed anything - unless I decide to not watch it at that time. What's annoying is if I miss so0mething a day or two before and I want to watch it, scrolling to find it can be very frustrating. The home page is useless though because it just feeds you based on what you've most recently watched. It's more annoying than anything else. And looking at channels you're subscribed too IS A pain - which is why I rarely bother with it.

I do not believe that the subscriptions tab is a chronological feed of EVERY channel I am subscribed to

Only use the subs tab, it's the only thing I have bookmarked and it seems to work fine for me even puts a blue dot on the channel when there's unwatched content. I'd like to be able to group into sub folders for content type though, and be able to disable shorts because why would I want to watch vertical video on a 55" OLED TV? And also because I have absolutely no interest in shorts.

KZfaq home feed is the wild west. They send you what ever they want and ignore subs

Sorry to hear you're having trouble here Lon. I got into the habit of just clicking on subscriptions tab as a way to keep up with whatever is new with the channels I follow ... and this is *mostly* manageable. I find that sometimes I miss videos if a channel posts multiple things in a day but by and large this works ok for me. BUT this only works because I am actively looking for it, and regularly keeping up on a day to day basis. I completely sympathize with you in that for a more casual or not-every-day user, your stuff could get buried in the firehouse that is the home feed and the subscriptions tab.

Renee is correct, I’ve noticed in my own feed, that the feed show more content from channels I’ve watched recently. Mostly that works, but it’s got issues. If I watch one video, or maybe a few videos from one channel, then I’ll see more videos from that channel and other similar channels and fewer from channels I actually subscribe to. This is despite not subscribing to that new channel, where I saw 1 or more videos that were timely, but I don’t want to follow long term.

I've never been subscribed to you, but KZfaq recommends your videos to me all the time, probably because I watch them all the time. I have subscriptions that I never see recommended, probably because I lost interest in them and stopped watching them when recommended, and I'm too lazy to unsubscribe. I know creators hate the KZfaq algorithm, but it more or less works for people like me. It's good that KZfaq doesn't just recommend channels I'm subscribed to, otherwise I never would have discovered your channel and similar channels I enjoy.

I use an add-on that skips the homepage and directs me to only the subscription page. Personally I think everything is displayed to me, at least I hope so. But I don't see the recommendation box which appears to be an advantage.

I almost exclusively watch KZfaq thru the subscriptions tab or by adding notifications to the Watch Later playlist. I also wish they would allow the Watch Later playlist to have more than 5,000 videos. Subscriptions will always matter to those who use them.

I only use the sub tab now. I turned off my history (and subsequently ad recommendations) and as punishment, I no longer have a home page. When I go to it, I'm met with the message "Your watch history is off. You can change your setting at any time to get the latest videos tailored to you. Learn more" So, I've been weening off of youtube. I removed all subscriptions for channels that I rarely watch anymore and also removed all subs for channels I can get from other locations like from their site/other social media or Nebula. These days, I don't use youtube as television as you say. I only use youtube for finding how-to or reviews of things I am actively looking for or to keep up with about a dozen channels that I do find entertaining that are not found elsewhere.

Unfortunately to say a solution that seems to be fine w/ me is that I am only Subbed to about 20 to 30 of you content creators. That way the algorithm shows me all or I dont miss the 20 to 30 creators’ videos that I am subbed to and not even all the Creators upload frequently or at all. I only want to be subbed to great Content Creators and lets face it, there’s not that many out there. Lon is one of the greats!

They don't. In fact if you subscribe to a channel you see less of it via the algorithm

Thank you sir for fighting the good fight. I have a few channels that I have to actively search out every few weeks, even though I’m subbed. I find myself using KZfaq less and less because my “feed” has become so narrow in recent times.

Yep... I have one browser tab open that's just my KZfaq subscriptions, and I open the videos I want to watch in a new tab... Watch video, close tab, go back to subscription tab, etc... When I finally make it to the newest video and run out, I refresh the tab and scroll back down where I just finished, and repeat that. I've done that for years. I'm sure there is a better way, but at least I know I'm not missing any Lon videos this way ;)

EDIT: I had no idea about YT still using RSS. I'll definitely check into that! ..... I use tab groups and bookmark folders for 'firehose' channels that otherwise would clutter up my subs tab. Of course the issue is that only works on a browser and not the YT mobile app. But you are right, Lon, YT has messed up the subs functionality. Hope they fix it!

I agree with the way KZfaq does it. The Subscriptions tab is for videos by channels I subscribe to, in chronological order. The Home tab is for recommendations. They are different and serve different purposes. I think that has several benefits. For viewers, they get exposed to things to watch that they did not know about previously. For creators, that brings them new viewers who may decide to subscribe. For example in the last few weeks, I have been interested in reviews of laptops with the new Qualcomm CPU. That was how I was steered to several of your laptop reviews, and to this video today. Without YT recommendations I would not have been aware of those videos.

As a viewer, the sub tab doesn't work well. I feel like I need to open the sub tab at least once a day, maybe twice, just to make sure I don't miss anything. I'll add it to the Watch Later playlist (which I know is bad for KZfaq metrics), but then at least I don't forget about it. Search is pretty bad too, after about 3 results it devolves into the home feed again, completely unrelated to the search. Usually if I'm searching, it's because I want something specific that it hasn't already tried to show me.

I rarely even bother with the Homepage, other than to mark one or two as Watch Later. Then it's on to the Sub page, or my subscription categories in PocketTube.

This is one of your more enlightening videos!

Funny thing is once or twice a year I go through all my subscriptions just see what I missed, does the channel still post or is the channel still relevant.

Kind of shocked that no one has created a third party app for this. Imagine if you could have collections of subscriptions…favorites and ones YOU can curate and customize for channels that fall under specific topics of interest like technology, music, news, video production, woodworking, gaming, etc… it’s almost like creating smart playlists of your favorite creators that would make it much easier to keep up with depending on what you’re feeling like watching that day. This way you can have your overall subscription tab, but then when you’re feeling like you want to get caught up with news you care about, you can go over to that tab and scroll through creators you’ve subscribed to who can give you relevant news based on your interests. This seems like a no brainer.

I'm not going to stop subscribing, the Subscriptions tab works for me. (maybe due to not having that many and actually using the tab?) What does me annoy about the Subscriptions is that notifications are very much hit-or-miss. Oh, and my Subscriptions also show up on my 'Home' carousel , though not as promptly and often as they do in my Subscriptions tab.

YT definitely has a lot of work to do here. As you said, "it seems to be an afterthought"...

My KZfaq time is defined by my subscribtions page. I only go to the home tab when there's nothing else to watch.

Long, very informative. Had absolutely no idea. I'm sure you rattled some at KZfaq. Thanks for sharing this.

For years now I've been using the Subscriptions tab/page of KZfaq as I never liked the Home feed. Home feed has always thrown random stuff at me with no relevance to things I watch. The recommendations under a video currently beign watched is no better. For example just earlier I was watching a Techmoan video and get recommendations for Indian or Arabic content. I don't watch those and I can't understand their language to know what those videos are about. So many of those instances are what makes YT recommedations and feed stink. Same with the ads I'm not from North Amerca or Europe and get served ads for things like Texas Intruments GaN technology, Indian Music videos, Toyota sponsored Olympic atheletes, Volvo & BMW Cars, etc. Nothing relevant to me. Back to the Subscriptions tab/page. Its horrible, particularly when it comes to community posts. Posts aren't there at all on Desktop and appear on the Home Feed, which I don't use since its not good and I have my watch history turned off (mostly because I get recommended channels that do topics relevant to me but I dislike said channels). The post from KZfaq Liaison you showed with not being served content if someone doesn't watch a channel's content much is also true for Community Posts. I don't see the Community Posts of some channels I subscribe to who infrequently upload. Even on the Posts section of Subscriptions they don't appear unless I go the channel specifically and look at their Community tab. I've missed so many announcements by channels this way and I still can't figure out why YT does it like that.

I see the problem from your perspective as a content creator. You can no way to control how users use the app and they may miss your videos as a result. But as a user I see no problem. Any user that is bothered by missing content from a particular creator has a couple obvious solutions: periodically checking the Sub tab or periodically checking the channel's page. For me personally, I only subscribe to channels where I actually watch the majority of the content (eg. 70%+). Because of this my subscription list is only about 40 channels, which ends up providing a few hours of content per day. This makes my Sub tab completely manageable and is my primary way to browse. If I see anything I want to put off watching till later I'll add it to my "Watch Later" list. Easy and convenient. I don't understand the point of subscribing to huge number of different channels if you're only watching a small percentage, especially if you're bothered by missing content from certain channels.

Subs clearly don't matter, especially when I periodically find a channel in my subs that I didn't subscribe to. I check those by looking at their videos on their page and wouldn't you know it, not one video did I watch. KZfaq sub system is messed up. also love the random unsubscribes as well. KZfaqs recommendations are also terrible. I constantly get videos I have already watched showing up as something I might want to see and channels / subject matter that I 'Not interested in' and 'do not recommend this channel' and I am still constantly getting hammered for those topics.

I have to admit, I almost never use the sub tab anymore. There was a time I used to go there to see what's new but nowadays there are so many people making so much content that I just rely on KZfaq showing me what's new and of potential interest to me on the home page. That's been enough to satiate my need for content as of recent times.

True, and I rarely see your video popping up. Thought no longer make videos but when I go over to your page, it seems active.

I'm one of those people that (over) curates my own feeds everywhere consistently and avoids homepages/recommendations. And yeah. On KZfaq I just bookmark straight to my subscriptions page. I'm obsessed with chronological feeds and have straight up left social medias and websites because they didn't have it. That said, I know I'm in the minority (especially being on desktop). And yes! Very much agree with some of your comments about the lack of granular control in the subscription page!

Same problem here w your channel. Had to pure my YT history in order to see you again.

As a viewer I clean up my sub feed every now and then. I also try to only sub to channels I know I’ll watch consistently. As a creator I try not to chase trends because if isn’t a topic related to what people are initially subbed for, it’ll flop and you have to hope that the topic is popular enough to reach people. But these tech companies are so obsessed with keeping you on the platform because if they gave you a choice, you’d only watch for a couple hours and do something else. That’s why shorts are so appealing. You can waste several hours of watching and not notice it.

I watch your videos through the sub tab. I watch most of my videos through the sub tab, because I know it was something I was interested in at some point. More than the randomness of the home page and recommendation shoulders. Not sure if KZfaq Shorts have seemed to murk up the water some, because I feel like there's a lot of flaws in KZfaq as of late. I've been recommended a lot off topic videos I would have never cared to watch. I watch nothing political, yet I was being fed Arabic KZfaq news channels for like a month seemingly out of nowhere. I just kept forcing the "don't recommend channel", because I don't know Arabic nor care for politics in general. The only thing I rely on is my Subscriptions page and search (most of the time).

I agree despite the fact that I primarily watch things from the subs page. I'll leave it open permanently and just refresh it every time I work my way up from where I left off until I reach the top of the page and I miss stuff all of the time. Of course, I'm subbed to around 640 channels, so fire hose is probably too tiny of a mental image. And I still also click on recommendations in the side panel because occasionally there's some good stuff there. Yeah, I may have a bit of a problem when it comes to adding subs.

I can watch all of your videos since I have "All" under notifications. Now while I don't have push notifications on since I would constantly be bugged by them, I go to my home page and click the notification bell and it gives me a listing of what I want to watch, then I can go through them when I have time.

I subscribed to you years ago and never really saw any of your videos, especially over the last few years. I somehow became unsubscribed to your channel and now I get loads of your videos in my feed. The homepage and feed algorithm is totally messed up anyway. I accidently clicked on a video, I did't even watch the video, next minute the feed is flooded with whatever topic the video was I accidently clicked on.

I agree that Subscriptions are a mess. As a viewer, it is terrible that we have few ways to sort or prioritize channels. There are channels I am forced to unsubscribe to because Subscription management as a viewer is such a mess.

if you are watching a video, click on the save after you click on the three dots then a playlist popin shows up then add a playlist and lastly checkmark the playlist added and repeat for new videos. this video is added to the LON GUY AND ANTENNAMAN playlist.

This video was on the top of my home page

Your videos do appear in my feed for what it's worth :D

This is why I've never gone to the KZfaq page and said "Dear Lord Algo, please show me a video that might pleaseth me". All RSS feeds for the channels I subscribe to feed directly into my reader for consumption. It's been years since I've actually visited the YT homepage.

You are right on as usual Lon! I have several hundred of channels that I'm subscribed to....the sub tab is useless.

I have noticed that what I want to see and subscribe too. I'm not seeing those videos and need to seek them out. On the other hand I keep getting shown stuff like CNN, Timcast IRL, Mr. Beast etc. stuff that I'm not subscribed to. I have a pattern of stuff I normally watch aka car and train videos that are hobby related and geared to an older person like myself in the 50 to 60 age group. This pisses me off. Just like this video, I'm not subscribed but YT thinks I want to watch it and some how knows I will write a comment about how YT sucks.

Wow, I have several of the same channels subscribed as you Lon, including Steve Lehto. His admin reading a funny comment at the end is awesome.

I turned my youtube history off a while back because it was suggesting some awful media. The result is that it turns off the Home page (on the mobile app). So, I am stuck with the firehouse of my subscription feed 😢 I agree finding videos within my many subscriptions really sucks the way Google has it setup.

I use a feed reader, Feedly, to see all the new KZfaq subscriptions posts so I never miss content I want. Works great.

Am I the only one that watches videos almost exclusively from my notifications tab? I scroll down to where I left off and right click and open a new tab so I don't have to keep clicking the bell and scrolling down to where I left off. Wish they had an auto play feature so it plays the next video automatically instead of me going back to my initial tab and scrolling up to play the next video until I've caught up on all my notifications.

What I hate is the bell icon. The problem is the user has no control over when the notification is given(at least that I can figure out). I subscribe to creators from all over, mostly North America but not exclusively. I would get notifications randomly all day. So I turned them off. What I'd like to see is the ability to receive all the notifications once per day at a time that works for me.

What about clicking the notifications bell (for subscribed channels) and select to be notified of all that channels releases? So far as I can tell, this works quite well. I subscribe to a number of channels that YT algorithm tends to disfavor but seem to appear without hindrance amongst my notifications.

Had no idea, wow thanks for posting this video.

I don't know if this combats some of what's being talked about but what I usually do is unsubscribe from everyone at the end of the year and then resubscribe to the channels that that I know I've been watching or that I know I've liked in the past even though I might not be watching too many of their videos recently. I do this because if I don't my subscription tab also becomes overrun. I also know that my interest cycle depending on what I'm interested in at the time so sometimes I'll be more interested in gaming, sometimes I'll be more interested in tech, sometimes I'll be more interested in movies. It just depends.

I hit "Subscribe" and see everything that gets uploaded, because I *only* ever come to KZfaq via the Subscriber tab, then scroll back to see what's been uploaded since I last visited. Only maniacs use the "home" tab - like those who use "for you" instead of "following" on X.

I have stopped using an RSS reader since Google abandoned it. I am wondering if I need to start over by adding my favorite RSS links from every KZfaq creator. Is there a way to bulk import from my KZfaq subscription list to RSS readers?

I like the easier to unsubscribe idea and maybe group recents by channel so like news/music subs that post a lot aren't filling up the feed

Every new video upload to any of the channels that I watch regularly appear on my front page. I personally see no benefit in subscribing to any channels. It's all right there as soon as I open youtube. The only thing I miss out on are live streams. But if I need to be notified that somebody's gone live, I'm probably busy doing something else anyway

I really like the RSS feed hack and I will look into doing the same this week. Thanks!

Should be an option to put the channels you like in a playlist of sorts in the subscriptions tab.

Since youtube decided to stop sending emails to the channels you are subscribe to. To make sure I receive what I want from my channels I selected the Notification bell on the top right of the screen (desktop) next to you name. I go through the list each day and just email what i want to myself. I do this so I can one make sure i have them and also I can watch them when I am ready. But what I have noticed is that there are other channels in there that I am not even subscribed to but i just skip over them.

I agree on my phone I always use subscription tap just because I'm used to it since they start not showing the people I like in Home, but this is not as easy as in the browser.

My watch history is off, so I go direct to subscribe. I don´t see what they are pushing, so it´s my choice.

I did notice a big change about 2 months ago. I would search for videos and struggle to find them and see lots of videos that had nothing to do with the search that I'd carefully constructed. It would also show the same videos in the same terrible list repeating over and over making the list longer than it needed to be like I was accidentally missing the videos that I'd looked over and didnt want to see again. So I would open a video, find that it wasn't what I was looking for.. it would then think "oh you like that?" and give me more that instead of what I was still searching for. Also the home screen is so horrible that I sometimes think that I've not logged into KZfaq and then I just flick it to 'Subscriptions' and the annoying shorts that I DO NOT WANT to ever see are there. Sometime ago I managed to stop those but they switched those back on... no matter how much I said that I didn't like those. It also keeps switching back on autoplay on videos, which I do not want and I keep switching that off too.. and know this because they switch it back on again each time.. I want to stop using YT but I don't know where to go right now and start over finding the channels I like on another platform. YOu can even search for the exact name of a vid and it will still not find it and show you some real rubbish that I have no interest in. it now takes me way too long to find the videos I want to watch and now I think I'm spending less time on it.. enough to no longer pay for the premium service. cos there is no way I putting up this AND ads too

2:50 the youtube liaison is mistaken. The subscriber page sometimes does not show all the recent videos. I've recently thoroughly investigated two instances where youtube pushed a video to me from a subscribed channel, and I could go to that channel and see the video in the Videos list, but when I go to my subscriber page the video is not listed. Videos before and after the affected video from the same creator are listed.

i did not know about "subscription" tab. Interesting!

I use an extension to hide all the feeds and random stuff. I just check the sidebar for the little dot next to my subscriptions to know if a new video was posted.

I rely on your weekly email, to be notified of videos. Regards from Baltimore.

I've had this suspicion for years! 🤬 I disagree about the subscriptions tab because I go there directly And avoid the home page every time and I still miss people's videos... I have four hundred plus subscriptions and I get maybe ten videos a day even in my subscriptions tab and if I check there are videos that do not show up there

I totally agree with you, the Subscription tab sucks. Especially on TV or computer.

A thoughtful look at KZfaq.

You think that’s bad…. Try making “made for kids” content. Not only when they not see your new videos… people can’t even “save it for later” on a video they are watching

I guess I watch KZfaq differently than you because I don't see an issue. I only watch videos on a television and I'm either on the homepage or subscriptions and I see all the videos. Nothing gets buried and maybe that's because I have less than less than 50 subscriptions. Taking a closer look now, I'm not so sure. I don't recall seeing some of the stuff in the subscription feed when I click on each channel.

If you thought Google was a big company now could you just imagine how big they would be if they oporated using a normal business model??? One which is always working to improve their product for their customers.

that algorithm makes sense. your home page should be RECOMMENDATIONS. The subscribed page should be SUBSCRIPTIONS only. i don't want subscriptions on my home page I want recommendations. on the subs page i WANT the firehose and I'll watch the stuff that looks good later. or now if i have time.

Am I missing something here? Isn't that what the notification bell is for - to let you know a channel you've subscribed to has a new video?