Merry Christmas to you too tuv

I luv tuv

Marry Christmas Eve to you as well tuv!

Merry Christmas Eve Eve too !! stay safe as well 🫶🏻 ^^

you know whats up

And the “cupcake” incident is now a meme 😅

One day historians will be explaining the origins of the phrase "EDP situation"

You know you messed up when your name is not only synonymous with pedos but it also becomes a more popular name for those things

Its all for the best

To say he had a career is crazy

Nvm I forgot he can't run

More like waddled away

Lmao 😂😂

​@@cruelcraft5559 till the very next day bum bum bum bum budda bum

Bro came back not just for seconds but for dessert too 💀

Nah fr cuz weird as hell for that

Exactly. Those were not jokes. They were admissions

Amd the fact that he felt comfortable enough to say that on a podcast of all places 😭

Reminder that he's really weird with kids, and he recently just adopted a baby.

@@deepcrabHe and his partner adopted 2*

I caught that too lol

I can't believe comments can go from useless to even more useless! Absolutely astonishing!

@@S-Groovefr

LMAOOOO HELP

@@S-Groove Is that...directed to this comment?

jaystations close enough

Buying crack is valid tho

Literally why can’t they get in trouble for stealing or substances not this

It’s the crime that is most universally despised.

NEVER forget glitterforever21 !!!!

Wait, so you think that's fake?

@@lyna7614it’s obviously fake, you can watch his explanation video if you don’t believe it

Its not fake bb😂

he's covering george sexaual abuse, he's still disgusting

@@Zombina638 he proved it fake AND the accusers all admitted to lying shortly after his video debunking everything.

I could not agree more. I also started watching him when I was around 13 back around 2009. I never came forward about my abuser when I was young because Shane’s grooming content made me think no one would take it seriously or care.

Honestly after I saw him hump that puppy and then made out with it I was done.

I only watched him during the makeup drama era, where he was getting familiar with Jeffree Starr and making pretty much useless clickbait “documentaries”. Even then his content was lazy, and the kinds of jokes he makes in his old videos are not appropriate, he knows/knew what the age of his audience is/was.

i completely agree. i started watching him at around 11-12, and now that i'm almost an adult, i cant believe that i was exposed to that humor. and i still have some of his merch and books which honestly makes me want to vomit

@@annie3746 Wow! That is awful, and I'm so sorry you had to go through that. He needs to be held accountable for all the very real harm he caused, even if he wasn't abusing people directly.

Yeah I don’t even like Dream, his content is boring to me, but I wouldn’t be surprised if all of it was fake. The internet was dunking on him after his face reveal, and you know when the internet hates you, allegations will come left and right.

@@Not_Zio So, you think Dream allegations were true, understandable.

@@davidarvingumazon5024 Not what I said. I don’t have an opinion on it because I didn’t even see the evidence nor did I watch Dream’s video, I was just saying it wouldn’t be surprising if it was false.

@@Not_ZioI’m used to be a dream fan (I still like his videos but not what he does) and stopped being one after realizing his videos are staged and he isn’t bad looking. Gumball roasting him was funny and I’m on Nick’s side.

@@davidarvingumazon5024They might be true, but what are you gonna do about it if I believe them? Not a damn thing, that’s what. Apologize to your mother for being a mistake.

the fact you even start a parasocial relationship is fucking sad get a life

That's why you should NEVER get too attached to an online personality. Because no matter how long you've been watching these KZfaqrs, you STILL don't know them, and they don't know you.

@@SwaggyG_2102 boom EXACTLY

WE?

@@lilatunez im saying through other people's experience and mine

Its crazy, I could make fake allegations against dream right now if I wanted to.

that doesn't change that hes a piece of garbage who indirectly parasocially grooms his fanbase and gets people constantly harassed off the internet for hating on him and also used to take pride in it with situations like him ironically endangering a young black person's life over exposing his racist past to the point they were begging people to stop leaking their and their families address.

@@BabyGronkakatheRIzzKingdo it u won’t

Honestly Dreams biggest flaw is his rash responses, he made multiple paragraphs of texts that only fed into the crazy Twitter accusers and made it easy for them to rally people to laugh at him along with ridicule him. Kwite another youtuber that recently had been falsely accused had to tell him to focus on the response video and stay off Twitter. Once he did and made a more clean solid response in the KZfaq video all those accounts that accused him turned tail and ran. Showing that they were only banking on Dream not thinking clearly and having nothing of substance. He got famous way too quickly where he struggles to handle such pressure and the parasocial community that he quickly built up started to turn on him, one of the main accusers called Amanda was just a crazed stan that got mad that he wasn't giving her that much attention therefore started grooming allegations. The accusations of racism partly came from his fanbase with someone saying how the battle scream was racist to Native Americans. I feel alot of the haters are ex dream stans that would chastise him for not being perfect.

​@@logos8626 I mean I could... Dream uhhh uhhh stole my burger

soon to be? them kids done hatched like last week 😭

If I had to guess I would imagine Shane is less affected by the pedo controversy because unlike EDP who was caught red handed Shane has made very inappropriate comments but hasn't been caught actually doing anything with a minor.

@@squaino333 Right, I forgot about that 😂😭

Remember when people would go nuts and kill celebrities? John Lennon got shot, yet these people are still here...

​@PeterGriffin11 yeah but what about the cat he abused?

Wasn't he busted trying to hook up with real 15y/o this year?

God knows what’s he’s already gotten away with

@@jacplac97 I think, I heard sumn a few months ago about him tryin to meet a 16 year old.

edp isnt the only guity one here like those teens are just dumb why dont they block him if hes a pedo?@@keezymann4655

@@keezymann4655another KZfaqr caught him and it’s likely edp will be arrested

@stmsin maybe, but at least he disproved the allegations🧁

it was all fake 😭😭

​@stmsinI agree, but noone deserves false allegations.

He didn't disprove shit

Most of the people hating on him didn’t even watch the response

it’s crazy that she could’ve just separated from her r*pist stalker husband and probably gotten out of the controversy relatively unscathed and she just… doubled down.

@@walkingexistentaldread3079 Indeed but it's way crazier that she didn't respect the warning(s) from lolcow moderators/owners themselves asking her to just stop breaking the site's rules. She literally just needed to stfu and it's likely Emily never posts about her. Good riddance though.

Saw those similar pictures of their hair and immediately thought of the movie Single White Female.

Same with Illuminaughtii. The amount of self-sabotage she did in her own 'apology' was wild, like she literally put a persons Su*cide note into the video to make herself look better. Along with many other things that she has said on twitter.

@@walkingexistentaldread3079her WHAT NOW HUSBAND????

ii dont blame them. dream never got repercussion for endangering dozens of people by sending his fans to attack everyone who he sees hating on him. I'd be pretty mad if I was one of his victims. literally all of them had their home addresses leaked in minutes and all he did was celebrate it. hes a villain.

@@Errenyaegerrr yeah no I still blame them

​@@beans4126 same

@@beans4126 yes, no one should make grooming allegations because “they don’t like someone”. It’s just that dream encouraged doxxing and has made insensitive jokes against people.

That’s only in the case of someone who’s never actually groomed anyone. Dream did, though.

W tokemon I love your tierlists man

he went naked on stream today lmao

😂😂😂​@@nitansh.

I had stopped watching boogie long ago after he stopped making his Francis videos, and had no idea how bad things had gotten for him....

Still surprised people are paying him after all the shit that was exposed about him.

May edp soul rest in heaven

214x speed⁉️

Fr?

You’re a real one ✊🏽

fr

fr, people literally want him to be a groomer and say he is even if the evidence when the evidence is shown to be flawed. All this because they think he is a cringe minecraft youtuber.

They’re acting like dream brutally killed their dog in front of them or something, seriously

His allegations are basically a meme at this point so it’s really hard to tell whether any of it is real. Sucks. Probably won’t affect much though, his fans are DEVOTED

@@kytuneit’s not as bad as it could be but it’s still kinda weird how he conducts himself with fans

​@evergreen3337 I don't think he interacts with his fans so much. I don't think responding weeks later is considered interacting so much

might be a bit hard to downsize no hate

He has tens of thousands of dollars worth of toys and plastic shit laying around his house he could sell and use the money from his sold house to get a house half the size of his, which is 5 Bedrooms for one adult man. It's child level shit. He's like Cartman.

@@jibberwocky4054 in boogies case, physically.

He is an addict and he has a lot of problems. Spending all your money on prostitutes

He never finished paying off of his mortgage even when he was making hundreds of thousands a year. He has maybe $100K in equity if he sells and tens of thousands of dollars in debt.

I really never understood why he became so irrationally reviled, or cultishly beloved. He's just a guy

@@danem2215 Because he's annoying and cringe and twitter is just one huge 3 year old

it's mostly because he'll take the b8 he's like one step behind becoming a lolcow @@danem2215

​@@danem2215 fron what i see Dream is (or was) cultishly loved because he's: 1. A faceless creator with an attractive voice, this led people to believe that he's a very attractive guy, unfortunately for them he was an average looking guy. 2. His friend group is very loved, namely people like Tommyinnit, Ranboo, Fundy, George, Techno (rest his soul) and i can't be bothered to search the rest. Said people were also very sexualized by some unhinged Twitter users. 3. Twitter, i don't have to explain this. 4. LGBTQ-friendly attitude, this might be a somewhat weird theory, but Dream and co is very LGBT friendly and whatnot. In my experience creators who are openly and overly friendly/"accepting" (pandering) to LGBT audiences also get the most unhinged of the bunch, as well as "safe spaces" which is a very sneaky term for echo chambers. Also, male audience who also happen to be gay or bisexual see this as a way to be more openly attracted to Dream. 5. Minecraft, very accesible game, girls and boys alike play it a lot. In my experience the most unhinged people in Dream's fanbase happen to be straight girls or gay guys i.e the ones that are most likely to fall for someone like Dream. 6. People establish fandoms for things like DreamSMP and stuff. 7. Fostering parasocial relationships, bro calls his fans "kittens" and does not take accountability for his fans' unhinged actions. However, i do not think that Dream's unhinged fanbase is that big, just that they have the loudest voice. Now for why he is hated: 1. Unhinged fanbase, i will say, Dream's fanbase can be very unhinged and annoying. Which leads people to hate him because he's the root of it. Especially if Dream does not care wtf his audience does. 2. Annoying pandering to LGBT, safe space bullshit leads to echochamber leads to very strong takes regarding LGBT. I mention LGBT a lot because i recognize most of his unhinged fans are LGBT, but i think this goes for a lot of fandoms. 3. See Dream as a boogeyman for all these problems. 4. Ride on the bandwagon because they want to belong to the crowd. It's all speculation though lol, it's just based off of what i see.

​@@shajidrahamanok but why make allegations that could ruin someone completely

Fr in this day and age an hour long video of a single guy in front of a camera won’t enough to persuade anyone especially if your fanbase is mostly under 18.

So personally, I'm not in the business of making fun of children but when dream kids would make their way into the spaces I was a part of, they would always really annoy me just because of how much a lot of them placed their identity around dream universe shit. I don't even know if these people were boys or girls, but it was just a level of commitment that made me want to be "please diversify your interests... please present yourself as a person with an identity beyond dream fan"

You make a good point, but the main criticism that Dream and his fanbase got was that his fanbase is extremely unhinged (I'm talking drawing g0re p0rn of Dream and his friends, d0xxing people, etc). Dream straight up refused to address those people. While he isn't responsible for the actions of his fans, he could have at least addressed it like people were asking him to.

LMAOO

Tuv is smarter than that. Seems like an honest kind dude 👍

I've never watched his videos, the only thing I know about him is the videos of him flipping out or pretending to, while playing WoW.... He just seemed crazy...

There was a point where Boogie thought he got the fans by asking them to donate him money. That backfired tremendously.

In some of his earlier videos he used to be much more positive and express gratitude towards his followers, as opposed to the newer videos where he is just begging his subscribers for money

In some of his earlier videos he used to be much more positive and express gratitude towards his followers, as opposed to the newer videos where he is just begging his subscribers for money

agreed. part of the problem is that there’s no repercussions. the false accusers just delete their acc and that’s it, no consequences, while the accused is left with a ruined reputation. this can’t keep happening

I feel like Shane has done so many insanely disgusting things it's hard to keep track of all them

@@durianfox plus i feel like cuz there are so many instances, some people become apathetic and end up not caring.

WHAT

@@realestsienna this happened way back in the day (before 2014 if I remember correctly). He made a video talking about his 20 something birthday and he said that his cousin gave him a lap dance and showed the video. It was his same cousin that was also in his old skit videos who was obviously underage.

He also kissed his underage fans during meet ups. It’s disgusting how some people says he’s changed.

not rlly they just want adsense and relevancy

Tuv is woke 🤡

@@440-fishermandrock8 womp womp

Yeah he doesn’t really belong in this video

THANK YOU! I'm no Dream fan, but this angers me that Tuv included him on this list. It's misinformation at its finest, and he talks like Dream did do it.

@@SamanthaMinxhe said he’s not gonna say the allegations were false when they are actually false. This nose ring wearing douche is straight up lying.

Goddamn Ambers

@Abandoned_Account88 Like a lot

That's cause it was against dream and twitter hates dream

​@@sleepyotaku42but Cantu was 20 years old, he is a fucking adult and should know that alcohol is bad. He is responsible for his actions. Also, Dream didn't provide any alcohol, it's pretty obvious that Cantu was in the wrong here.

@@MelagmYup, I've been a fan of Nick for a while and it really sucks that he's being like this. I know he has bipolar so I wonder if it's been taking a toll on him lately.

​@@sleepyotaku42 "underage" you when a 20 year drinks alcohol and they aren't 21😱😱😱😱

​@@areakastudios6704im bipolar and i have been in that same mindset when manic. not saying that makes it an okay way for someone to act, (even though I'll admit i laugh at him roasting dream so hard, sorry its just so funny to me,) but i can just see the mania radiating from him in that vid and being intoxicated def makes it sooo much worse

yeah exactly!! and people have this thing where they just hate on things so they could fit in w the internet. i just know he does minecraft stuff and now suddenly he is being accused of grooming w out any proper proof?? people on the internet are so gullible. im sure it was prolly jus some prank to pull or something but this is too far

The only thing that can be believed is that the allegations are false.

@@DMAGAEscober not exact that either. More like non can be trusted.

@@justcallmeluke7254innocent until proven guilty 🤷‍♂️

​@@justcallmeluke7254 I remember most of them admitted that they were lying about their accusations idk about the accusations today cause i got tired looking at it but im sure it's false too

I never thought he was guilty

he still undeniably feeds a parasocial fanbase and gets people harassed to the point of fearing for their life if they accuse him of anything, so .

@@Errenyaegerrr The fuck do you mean gets people harassed? The people being harassed are the result of either putting it on themselves or other people trying to make him look bad by digging into the personal lives of the supposed victims. Dream has had no part in anybody getting harassed. And of everybody that has been harassed in this situation, the amount of harassment Dream has dealt with isn't even remotely comparable to everybody else. Dude has had to go to ridiculous lengths to keep himself and his family safe. His fucking 80 year old grandmother was even being harassed. Plus, we've established by this point that if somebody new does accuse him there's almost a 100% chance that it's just more bullshit from somebody trying to ruin his life.

​@@Errenyaegerrr And that's deserving of death threats, life ruining false allegations multiple times, his family being threatened, being SWATTED, and all the other things that've happened???

@@Cardinal_claw all of that besides the swatting was done to the people mentioned. also to the special ED person saying the people brought it onto themselves, he admitted to the racism allegations and downplayed them from the first person who he got harassed and bullied off the internet. so yeah, keep coping. dream is a monster. he deserves worse

He became the internet punching bag

hes cringe but i gotta agree man

Yeah I feel like he went from the speed runner to an internet punching bag

I havent even watched the video and Im already disappointed in Tuv. While yeah Dream is f-ed up and kinda dumb to be honest....He needs his own video, or to be put with people that have also done what he has done as well... I dont even know much about the minor allegations against him. I know he isnt stupid enough to do it, but I know that absolute disdain for him as well.. Plus, if it was actually true. Alot more woulda been done then what feels like putting it in a jar on the shelf.

Yeah what's happening to him is kinda fucked up, he fed it and handled it terribly, no e of this would have happened if bro just said nothing.

The video isn't about "KZfaqr creeps" it's about ruined lives. I think you would agree that his life will never be the same

@@noahk3496 but its not dream that ruined it? it was literally a false accusations?

@@noahk3496 Dream doesn't belong in this video regardless because he didn't ruin his own life, and I don't think even he considers his life ruined. Not once in his response video did he mention once that his life is ruined. In fact at the end he says he just wants to move on and keep being positive, having fun, and making minecraft videos.

I couldn't agree more, if anything this only paints him in a bad light by putting him in the same thumbnail as shane dawson and EDP....

As Tuv said if he never dmed fans none of this would of happened you can argue he was smaller back then blah blah blah but this all 100% could of been avoided doesn't matter if he did it or not (grooming) he was apart of his downfall rather he meant to or not especially with the way he responded on Twitter I truly do think if he didn't send out mass tweets about the situation and focused on making his video he wouldn't be getting as much backlash as he currently is

Vanoss crew makes fun of him same as Ohmwrecker.

It sucked to hear what Ohmwrecker started for literally no reason. Craig being just worse than that and not taking anything seriously to actually address his flaws.

@@Fox5975 Ohmwrecker has intended to blackmail them and didn't succeed.

And yet his fan base defends his reputation to death if need to.

May I ask who

It’s normal that someone should not groom a minor he shouldn’t be thanked for that it’s normal standards

It may have been respect worthy how he dealt with it, but it's a truly disturbing sign for humanity when people feel grateful to others for not being pedos. It is extremely common for kids to have crushes on someone too old for them. It is something kids need to be warned against acting on, in case it is a creep they like, but they aren't asking to be groomed. The older teens/adults shouldn't be bothered necessarily, but recognize it as something that the kid will grow of. The crush should be either ignored, or the kid gently explained to that it would be inappropriate for anything to happen. This can start very young. One of the most common first crushes for children(we're talking as early as kindergarten) is their teachers. Of course at that age it's very different from a teenage crush.

bro's based fr when he rejected the grooming request

where did u get this from?

Where’s your source on this claim? Some non existent tweet?

@@jb1023_it’s literally in their messages she never acknowledges that he asked for her age and then he said “nvm 18”

No she didnt lol what evidence?

@@Zombina638 it’s in the video in the screenshots. did you even watch the video? 🙄

thank you for being one of the few people to correctly acknowledge that the haters are so much more toxic than stans. (obviously the stans that go overboard and actually stalked him are awful no doubt, but that is such a small minority of his fanbase, most of them are pretty chill people just having harmless fun in their own niche corner of the internet.) a lot of people continue to blame his fans/stans almost entirely for all the negativity he has faced, when a lot of his fans have also been victimized throughout his career simply because they like him. people who (usually parasocially) hate so intensely that they want him to be a pedo so their hate can be "vindicated" or to where they threaten harm to dream/his stans, are so, SO much more disgusting and toxic than stans who love their favorite content creator too much. hate will always be more harmful than love, even unhealthy/parasocial love.

2 stans patting each other on the back 😂

@RoarofdalioN Fr the obsessive stans and the haters that dox him go hand in hand loll

@@samanthaxo819 be real dream made this enviroment he should have told his fans to chill out instead he just encouraged them to be stans i said way back it was going to bite his ass

I'm still gonna hate him because that entire thing with the gumball VA is messed up

Hell nah

Buddy calm down.

WOAH

you just like me fr

☠️

In a positive note for mini, we see the vanoss crew cracking jokes about him

@@m0isturTRUE

As kid I loved mini Ladd, I used to watching his videos 24/7 it makes me really sad that he turned out like this :(

@@Silly_willy-l9nshe was an adult

@@hzcomicfan7688 wym???

Exactly, he should have known this by now considering he uploaded this 6 hours ago.

​@@DMAGAEscoberfr some even admitted lying about their accusations

Most of these big KZfaqrs I notice are afraid to outright admit Dreams innocence. They almost always seem to still be on the fence on this even though the allegations were proven false. They’re losing my respect.

Just wished his stans/fans weren't as mentality impaired as the average Taylor swift fan .

​@@DMAGAEscobersame honestly. It's pretty gross to see people continue to drag an innocent person through the mud just because it's trendy to hate them. I'm saying this as someone who has been a fan of Tuv for a few years now.

Sammy just can't read the room. It's a shame. But I can't blame someone who thinks out of their arse.

Fake? Bro I'm telling you there been like 15. 15 people so he a groomer

Dream is 100% innocent. People need to watch his video in full

@@ILoveTVShowsAndStuffNobody said he wasn’t innocent, just that he sorta dug the hole for himself. Read the comment.

@@kingvulcoon1752 nah. He didn’t dig himself into anything. I don’t see a problem with anything he did. He ISNT doing anything illegal or immoral, hence him being completely innocent and should never be in a negative light.

@@ILoveTVShowsAndStuff There are times where you have to realize that you can be as nice and lovely or whatever else as you wish, as upstanding- however, holding the door open for this stuff to happen is in of itself your fault.

Exactly bc even if he didn’t groom anyone his relationship with his fans and visa versa isn’t good

Literally all she had to do was not accuse a LAWYER of plagarism. Otherwise, no one would've found out how awful she truly is.

​@jacobbigaj6168 there's also the irony of this while she's such a chronic plagiarist that I doubt she's ever had an original thought

@@jacobbigaj6168 she choose the worst opponent to figh agaisnt

girl played stupid games for stupid prizes fr

“Believing the victim” automatically is such a trash argument. Neither side should be seen as right based on allegation alone, that should go without saying

And that second catch was more disappointing than the original, clout chasers, pity nothing has actually been done about edp.

As a former EDP fan that most likely wouldn't have happened. He would have gotten more subscribers for sure, especially with the resurgence he got from Tik Tok, but his content wasn't the most original and innovative stuff out there. The main thing he had going for him was the lack of filter but even that was getting old, screaming obscenities isn't exactly genius and record breaking.

And in such a way for him to be exposed instead of the intention of informing the viewer, to entertain them in the way of which irony is shown because he's now an entirely new term for a pedo rather than just a pedo in itself if that makes sense.@@lobodesade6780

he confessed to texting six other minors in the sting op

@@JohnPerry27Shane Dawson has gotten away with it for years.

literally, stay neutral or believe the victim, NEVER defend the accused bc you don’t even know them & what they’re capable of