I think deathblight should have been similar to the zombie status effect from Final Fantasy, where healing sources now deal damage to anything afflicted to it, as well as giving a holy weakness (which might actually make the eclipse shovel somewhat good)

Finally someone mentions that if you’re gonna reset frost with fire you might as well just use bleed

You can give the venomous fang poison affinity to increase deadly poison duration to 90

Rusty was telling us since launch that fire resets frost so id put the origin on him hahaha. The debuff is why bleed/frost is arguably the strongest build in the game

11:45 FINALLY SOMEONE SAID THAT

i commented this on a different video but no one ever saw the comment so ima share it here: i think a cool deathblight rework that would allow it to work on normal enemies, be unique, but not too broken, would be to have death blight kinda work as a secondary posture system where the roots entrap an enemy when the meter gets full and allow for a riposte or a big charged heavy or whatever. this would allow it to work on normal enemies in a way that isnt overpowered and it could still work normally on npc enemies and i think it sounds fun im sure fromsoft wouldnt make this change at this point so im not tryna rally the troops and get people to advocate for this i just think itd be cool

The only use for madness in pve outside of the few enemies susceptible to it is the black dumpling, which gives a damage boost when madness procs in your vicinity. I find this is more reliable as a buff setup than poison is because madness isn’t a DOT effect like poison

So iv done runs across multiple characters doing different rot builds to see whats best and most effective. Ekzykes and Aeonia are clearly the best for incantations but if your looking for a consistent weapon that procs well and quickly i highly recommend the Rotten Duelist hammer with wild strikes. It staggers like crazy, hits hard, procs fast and barely costs fp.

Hundreds of hours on this game and just now discovered that the frozen needle is a weapon in the game

Theres a third poison type, the Poison Spraymist item has a Poison that's STRONGER than the Scarlet Rot weapons but weaker than the spells, it also lasts 30 seconds. Not only that it procs quite quickly, it may have low bbuildup per tick, how it last 7 seconds and each second has 5 ticks of buildup. While Arcane makes them better, they're still quite good with base Arcane. Also if I'm remembering correctly the Poisonous Mist Ash of War buffs your weapon with Deadly Poison as well as the cloud it spawns.

One huge advantage of frostbite is also the lack of equipment investment. You don't need a special helmet, nor a special talisman. It just works, boom.

I know you do lose out with split damage, but admittedly builds with multiple statues effects are really fun. Bloody Great Stars & Frost Rotten Battle Hammer was just all around fun to use. Thinking going rapier next Also yeah a friend of mine's first build was a low vigor fire and ice build It was so adorable! Don't worry though they eventually learned, they're doing a lot better now

Last run I played a strength build with the cold infused great star, and having both a frost and bleed build was unreal powerful

Great video!! Thanks!

Finally, somebody with the same opinion I have about removing frost and reapplying it...

Probably had the most fun in pvp with my Arcane build which made use of these. I started off with a twinblade which would inflict frost, then switch to my dual rapiers one of which inflicted poison the other scarlet rot. Finally once fully infected I finished them off with dual blood whips.

The ripple weapons have very high arcane work great for sleep (or any build up). Just slap the proper grease or ash of war on and you should get the proc in two hits.

3:06 thers also the ripple blade and the ripple cresent halberd with sleep grease and they have high sleep buildup

3:26 farming for Trina lily’s is fairly easy. Behind Aposté Derelict there’s about 5 jellyfish that’ll drop them. You can get about 7 each pass through without any fowled foots. Regardless sleep is underwhelming, I learned that the hard way

For the sleep section, you should've briefly spoke about the ripple crescent halberd when talking about sleep weapons. It's technically the best 'sleep weapon' in the game due to its arcane scaling and it also has nice reach since it's a halberd. Unfortunately it's mostly useful in pvp and it requires greases, although if you do have enough and mostly play pvp, the weapon is pretty much a cheat code.

I'll have to make a frost build sometime when I get back to this game. Probably in a year or 2

poison mist ash of war is also an INCREDIBLE rollcatching tool, almost always hitting a heavy attack on your target while also basically guaranteeding a poison proc

1:53 I feel as if with death blight and madness, it should proc the same way it does for npcs and players but in pve it does something similar to bleed and frostbite, maybe instead of insane damage it does half the damage of bleed and frostbite but significantly debuffs the enemy on top of the damage

I've always built up as much regular poison as possible with poisonbone darts and land one or two hits with the serpent bone to easily proc the deadly instead of regular. There's a lot of oversight in this game

I feel kind of called out for using the fire and frost buildup strat 😭. My thinking was that if I used two innate bleed swords, then infused on with fire damage and the other with chilling mist, even if the buildup was harder to do each time I could still just proc both continuously. Idk, that’s how I beat malenia.

When the game first came out I remembered a lot of people telling me traditional quality(STR/DEX) was dead because the game was all about magic, but that's my favorite build in every fromsoft game. I used off hand cold and main hand fire bandit's curved swords and the build was absolutely insane. Might have been the bandit's curved swords being broken, but resetting and reapplying frost with L1's was a blast, jumping attack was absolutely broken too. Highly recommend claw, ritual sword, milicent's prosthesis, and winged/rotten sword talismans with this build. There aren't many enemies in the game that resist fire/frost damage, but when they do, you can switch to another damage type like lightning, or just go bleed.

the fire giant has a frenzy stagger animation. I would have loved to see frenzy be a lower damage bleed/frostbite that can stagger bosses no matter how large they are

8:33 Poison Moth Flight also does deadly poison if the enemy is not already inflicted, it's still one of the worst ashes...

Scarlett Rot is my favorite status effect for pve. It takes no effort to throw a couple rot pots for a free 16% dot. And very few bosses resist or are immune to rot.

in the DLC, are there any scarlet rot sources that give the stronger version (like the scarlet aeonia spell did)?

I wanna see you rank consumables some day. 😈

I think that frost buildup does scale with intelligence on a cold infusion. I use a cold flamberge that has 115 frost buildup with the chilling mist ash of war. Maybe I'm wrong or something.

I know fire/lightning doesn't have a status effect to proc but I still feel like it should have been included in this list as maybe an bonus extra since it doesn't quite fit the video description. For the DLC I went Fire and Blood powerstanced greatswords (I also switched out the effects for frost or lightning occasionally depending on the enemies I'd be facing)- it made the DLC super easy. I only switched my build for Messmer and Radahn. It was so much fun, I wish I had more time to play ng+ but I have work to do- took a week off to play the DLC, that was barely enough time to get through it! Frost/fire works extremely well, especially for low level builds. If you can proc it fast you get the damage, reset with and build it up again, in the end you can theoretically do more damage re-procing than that 20% damage buff gives you with the right build. Let Me Solo Her uses this sort of build a lot with hoarfrost stomp/bloodflame to keep reprocing. It didn't make sense to me at first either, but it works very well if you can build up frost very quickly.

Thank you for ending the bleed vs frost debate literally the same

The coil shield is hella dope

You have a weapon ranking based on aesthetics?

I mean if we're including deadly poison as it's own. Why not super scarlet rot from Scarlet Aeonia?

6:57 oh, that’s nice

Vyke's spear would be a good weapon by itself if it's skill wasn't bugged. On tall enemies damage procs inconcistantly and on giant ones it does no damage at all. For some reason the blast just doesn't register.

I just hope you put both sleep and death very low because I just had an idea following the vid I'm making right

Proccing frost twice within a 10 second time frame got me the kill on the fire giant. But that dud just has a massive health pool so there the max HP% damage was far more desirable. Aka if you have a slow and tanky build resetting frost is huge. vs fast burst build

I think that in the dlc will come more death blight, sleep, madness and scarlet rot itens

Does the frost debuff makes enemy take more dmg from poison and rot?

I'm all for the none status effect black flame HP drain that's nice & consistently a % of max HP based.

cant you get scarelt rot arcane scaling by applying scarlet rot grease to a weapon with innate arcane scaling? Or is that not a thing?

Ive being playing elden ring for like a year and never even heard of fetid pods

I strongly believe that death blight should be high risk high reward. As in the fact that any weapon you use death blight you should take a considerable amount of damage cause if you want that status affect to activate you have to be good or die over and over again

I’m pretty sure Runebears and Crayfish are weak to sleep too, right?

I had no idea Arcane correlates to more successful bleed proc?

Deathblight is my favorite status effect aesthetically in any game I’ve played, though as stated, it really sucks. One place where I think it could be really cool is spells and ashes of war that are powerful, but apply deathblight or deathblight build up on the cased. Though it would be better if DB was completely reworked to not be horrible to balance in pvp and pve.

Armor set ?

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Hey bro I was planning to build ice and fire dual sword. Fire on one and ice on other. So like you said 11:50 here it’s not a good idea huh. Just looks fun. It make sense the frost buildup will be removed with fire right.

They added something called eternal sleep in the dlc

I bleed Malenia to death in seconds with fire and bleed. It depends on your stats and play style asw, like I'm a max dex and str and I use dual-wield: curved swords, shorts swords, spears, and even 1 handed Nagakiba. Use proper talismans and buffs for it and you can cheese your way thru in only a couple of hits.

If you proc frostbite and then add poison, does poison and poison moth flight do more damage?

If Deathblight procced on pve enemies and had a few more sources, it would be amazing

Funny how you can teleport out of deathblight if possible even in PvE. Like mid animation of being impaled lel

Sleep is oppressively strong in pvp. And is by far the strongest status effect you can abuse in terms of both effectiveness and ease of triggering. You simply can't relatable trigger madness with the madness weapons and spells, you still simply kill your opponent if they have boluses before you proc madness.

Death spells should work like the death rune spells from suikoden

7:30 Rot does scale, no there's no rot infusion but if you take a rot weapon and give it any arcane infusion the rot will scale.

You armor set is a mod?

you can get infinte trinas lilys just pick them up from the ground and rest at a bonfire

9:30 Or give it Poison infusion to technically triple the damage Also, for me at least Frost Pots are better than weapons. Regular Pot packs a punch, when it comes to inflicting this Status effect.

Where would destined death rank?

where do i find these status effects ? im confused 😅

Also thanks for telling people not to do the frost reset build. It's overall a terrible Idea. People would often point to "Let me solo her" and how he apparently uses Rivers and a Cold Uchi but like Malenia has both very low bleed and very low frost resist so, regardless if it's better than not resetting frost, the reset build works better on her than other enemies. I think you generally have to do more than 6000 dpm against malenia to make the frost debuff more useful than frost resetting but damage that low probably happens if your not using buffs so I guess frost resetting is optimal for the people who use it.

death blight is just there for lore reasons

we can only pray for a death blight swamp in the dlc

Bleed is objectively the best as far as dps goes. Frost is much more fun though

I really don't understand why FromSoftware added Deathblight and Madness just to treat them so badly. I would much rather they focused on making one of them work and save the other for a future game.

Death Blight works just fine...on me.

Scarlett rot, Madness, and sleep are the most underwhelming status effects in the game, and I wish they weren't.

Bleed, Rot and Frost S tier for PvE. Madness and Sleep S tier for PvP

I wish sleep would make enemies and bosses abit more slower and and would hit less accurately

Frostbite is the best by such a huge margin. The fact that it’s impossible to roll the debuff just puts it in a different league from bleed, at least in PvP. A good player can roll their bleed procs, but there’s no escaping the 20% frost debuff from a really aggressive player in a duel with standard latency.

Scarlet Aoinia can end some fights before they begin.

can anyone explain how destined death/blackflame effect works? like the tiny bit of hp it takes over time

Man, when do u breath while you are speaking? U speak so fast it could as well be a techno track

My fai/str build never starts a fight without scarlet aeonia right off the bat.

The Elden beast is laughing at this video I want you to know that

The reason people would reset frost is because when frost is procced intially- the enemy takes % max health damage.

I hope, with the DLC close by, that deathblight gets a rework, it could be the opposite of frost, where you get a debuff for atk, rather than defense, and make the deathlightimg infusion, with its scaling being the faith counterpart of cold, it’ll keep the defensive themes of miracles/incantations, and would finally give people a lightning infusion with faith.

Naw disagree with Scarlet Rot being lower than Deadly Poison. Again, more HP gets ticked away.

Blindly guessing, I guessed all right EXCEPT I swapped bleed and frost. I feel unreasonably proud

I dont really understand but i main a ROB with uchicatana with a frost ashe of war on it equiped So thats stupid bc bleed and frost dont work together or what?

The frost reset builds are likely leftovers from Dark Souls 3 where bosses barely got more resistant to it and it only reduced their armor by 5-7% so it wasnt really worth keeping

I wonder how death will change In 4 months

SLP should scale with Mind. I will not be elaborating.

Bleed; and to a lesser degree, frostbite, are two ailments that I have to admit to not liking, and growing to dislike even more as the game went on. The 'win-more' mechanics of flat percentile damage are either something you are just leaving on the table by not using them, or your build already melts things fast enough to not need that damage to begin with. Meanwhile; I actually like destined death and black flame more and more as I've played. Mostly because its not instant pops of said damage; but an almost better version of poison and scarlet rot, that also stacks with both. it's a shame poison will never be as good as its DkS2 version though; and I'd honestly take the bleed status from that game too, if only to not have it just be "pop, there goes some health".

Bleed has the highest amount of applicable bosses and targets in the game that are susceptible to the status effect

3:30 Magma damage is even worse, Eruption is str, Magma Blade and Magma Wyrm sword are faith, magma sorceries require int, magma breaths require arc.

Deathblight is basically just Curse from DS1 and you have no way of causing the effect yourself. So they kept this, in my opinion, cool gameplay mechanic in Elden Ring but gave you a way to cause it to other players. It's purposefully bad because as said in the video it's hard to balance and also it's okay to have a build in a game that is explicitly terrible it's about whether you enjoy that build considering more than just it's viability. But since players now have a way of causing it, deathblight gets shitted on as if it's something that needs to be changed. I don't see anyone complaining about not being able to Petrify enemies in DS2.

Idk why you say frost isn’t dependent on any stat either since most frost spells are magic spells which in turn get stronger with intelligence. Frostbite itself doesn’t increase from intelligence but magic spells like chilling mist do. The base damage increases which can only help the build up when it procs.

Pre patch death shotel was peak

When is he gonna yap about the stonesword key usage ranked?

“ any enemies that stand inside the most long enough to be procted with death blight deserved to be procted with death blight”😂

I really thought destined death can be categorized into status effect

I am very much hoping we see more Death Blight and Sleep oriented spells/Aows in the DLC. Keep up the hard work man. The DLC will be here soon enough \[T]/

Saying this before I even start the video, the best two are scarlet rot and frost is #1. My reasoning is that scarlet rot seems to be the single most reliable status effect while also being generally more powerful than poison. And frost is just the most powerful in my opinion cause it boosts the damage of everything besides fire by 20% which is extremely useful.