Why Do All Your Knives Look The Same? || Ben Banters and EDC Pocket Knife Philosophy!
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Күн бұрынWe got the illustrious Ben Banters Co-Owner of Knafs Co and knife designer extraordinaire to sit down with us and talk about why all your knives look the same. We talk philosophy, evolution, design, gas station treats, and have a blast doing it all!
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@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
That intro is my new favorite cinema sequence. 🤣 So good. Thank you Zac and Jamie for having me on for the conversation on this one. Next time, you can have the Slurpee, and I'll have the off-brand Maverik drink.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
So good getting together dude!💪
@Ashton.everydaycarry 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you have to run through fields and swim across lakes to talk about knives!
@stephan123321 2 жыл бұрын
....ich denke, ich spreche im Namen von vielen, wenn ich sage, das es stets eine Freude ist, wenn ihr zusammen eure Leidenschaft für Messer und fürs Leben vor der Kamera mit uns teilt, danke dafür! "..I think I speak on behalf of many when I say that it is always a pleasure when you share your passion for knives and for life in front of the camera with us, thank you for that!" Stay sharp & Peace, Stephan
@olaf_industries 2 жыл бұрын
ben the man, i missed u. much love
@TODD.GO.49ers.PACKERS 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the saddle...Ben and Zac, with Jamie behind camera....awesomeness
@orendz7740 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god man you 2 have no idea how big my smile is right now seeing you both together at a desk on KZfaq. Makes a grown man feel all squishy inside. I might even cry a bit.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the same! Glad you’re digging it🤘
@TheAwesomenessist 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah
@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
Happy crying is totally acceptable.
@DailyDrivenBikes_1 2 жыл бұрын
Ka bar has plenty of clones of the fighting knife out there. And there's plenty of clones of m9 bayonet.
@orendz7740 2 жыл бұрын
@@benbanters man it’s good to see ya on the tube ✌🏽
@Commander_Cody7 2 жыл бұрын
When the knife world needed them the most ….the horn was honked and they assembled to bring the world a masterclass in knife design. Thank you Ben and Zac! This as is everything on this channel is amazing!
@callendavidson2054 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I’m watching Ben and Zac in a KZfaq video again! I can tell y’all put so much effort into this video, and it shows. Well done!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🤘
@EverydayMinimalist 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing you two together makes my heart sing… EPIC VIDEO gents 🤘🏼🥹
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re digging it!👊
@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you're here, Brandon. We need to do a big collaboration video one day...
@shaquilleoneal117 2 жыл бұрын
My god it’s Brandon
@cameronbuckner254 2 жыл бұрын
Zac, your channel has quickly become my favorite knife/adventure/just amazing awesome youtube channels! I look forward to your stuff all the time and you are one of the only channels I have notifications turned on for. Seeing you and Ben talking knives and life is amazing! I still remember watching my firs episode of Knife banter with you and him, and you convinced me to by a Spyderco Roc cause you were both talking about cleaver blades! Seeing you both now, with you finishing up your new workspace, and Ben doing his own thing with the Knafs brand and the Lander, it's so awesome to see you guys doing your own things! I hope that God blesses you both and you both continue to do your own things! You guys are the best!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This made my whole day man!👊
@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Cameron! I think I can speak for both us in saying we're incredibly grateful that folks like you have stuck with us on this weird journey of professional life. It's good to have you on board.
@JP-8924 2 жыл бұрын
The boys are back in town!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Guess who just got back today…
@JP-8924 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacinthewild Other than Ben? Who would that be?
@CoolWaterDave 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for getting together with Ben. You guys got me back into the knife hobby, and you guys are the absolute best together. Hopefully you guys can keep making content because a majority of EDC content today is horrible. ❤️ Kurt and Jamie need to be on the camera too. Great cinematography Jamie!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in💪
@danielwasused 2 жыл бұрын
just like the good ol days. love to see it
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
It felt great to link up again!
@cworkman92 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this takes me back to 2019 when I first found Knife Banter! Love seeing you 2 on the screen together!
@cworkman92 2 жыл бұрын
To add my 2 cents on the whole discussion of knives/ same names- could have a lot to do with what some would call the collective conscious
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@mj1653 2 жыл бұрын
The OGs back again. This hits me in the feels
@jeromewear7603 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should do this once a week or so, maybe around the middle of the week. Haha I've missed this so much, knife banter was my favorite KZfaq show of all time. You guys are great, I'm so happy to see where you've gone.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a lot🤣
@cgunz 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacinthewild once a month?!
@napsterninja 2 жыл бұрын
The two men that got me into knives a few years ago. Thank you both, been wonderful and I have a growing knife collection. Great video, love the intro.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found us here!
@bartholomausnovember7962 2 жыл бұрын
You also got me into knives a few years ago. Then you lost me a bit (or BladeHQ did). And now, figuratively speaking, we three are back together here talking knives. That’s great, thanks!
@nickmartino2839 2 жыл бұрын
Lol omg..........30 seconds in and my heart is so full with joy!!!!! Lol I literally can't stop smiling!!!!!!and Jamie....... Jamie........ that intro!!!!!!! Omg BEST EVA!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie is and always has been a wizard!
@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
Filming a video about knives: 2 hours Filming an intro for a video about knives: 6 hours Time management is a social construct. 🙃😂
@jamesirwin5887 2 жыл бұрын
This video brought back all of the happiness I have been missing from the BladeHQ vids in the last years. So overjoyed to see you two in frame together. That intro sequence was definitely warranted for such an epic reunion.
@SwingCritic141 Жыл бұрын
“This looks like that, looks like that.. well they should.” 100% right and honestly a brilliant point.
@justingarnick6021 2 жыл бұрын
When u get to a point in knife collecting you understand that the small nuances in knives are what make them different and special. To a non knife nerd all knives look alike. I think it’s the small changes that make the general knife design special. The banter and baby banter are spot on designs. Haven’t gotten a lander just yet. But I can definitely see the design cues that make it different
@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support with the Banter series! You're spot on: nuance is so critical.
@seth30v 2 жыл бұрын
What a reunion! I haven’t had so much fun watching a knife video in a long time. The honest, thoughtful, and nuanced conversation is much appreciated. Banter on! But what I’m really here for is to ask the question your Sanrenmu discussion made me ask myself: are the old Schrade, Puma, Case, Camillus, Utica, and Ka-Bar folding hunters all clones of the Buck 110?
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Traditionals are such an interesting case for this idea. I honestly don’t know enough to weigh in. I’d live to hear ideas though!
@henrys.6333 Жыл бұрын
That’s a great point! I’ve heard a lot of those other companies back lock, brass bolster, clip point blades, called a “Buck Knife” so that’s definitely an interesting topic! I believe that they’re all “brothers” like Ben said because they are so similar, but I can totally see someone calling them all clones for a handful of reasons.
@BushCraftMan 2 жыл бұрын
Ben, Zac (Jamie and Austin), you guys got me started on the "knife life" years ago. Through your mentorship, humility and humor you guys have shown the world that the knife community is rooted in friendship and fun. Great to see Ben and Zac together again. Keep up the great work!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Got the deep cuts with Austin! Thanks for watching man👊
@mrnorcross 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! Please do these videos every now and then! It's so much fun to see you guys together again.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you dug it!
@joe_a_photo 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This intro was totally incredible
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was an adventure answering Ben’s call🤣
@jjabberjaw8822 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what I was expecting with this collaboration, but thanks for the deep dive on knife design. I have a feeling that this is going to shape how I look at knife designs and similarities between designs in general. Also, obviously, it's great seeing you guys working together and talking so openly. I hope this happens again at least occasionally.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it got you thinking! Ben always looks at things from such a visually balanced perspective which is opposite me so I love hearing his thoughts!
@jjabberjaw8822 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacinthewild I really appreciate that. Ben definitely seems to have a designer's perspective. Your willingness to dive down rabbit holes and give historical context compliments that very nicely.
@bmurphy6418 2 жыл бұрын
This is what the KZfaq world has been missing for quite some time now. Let us all rejoice
@flipflat4814 2 жыл бұрын
There are literally so many knife designs at this point it's hard not to design a knife that has similarities to other knives.
@adamclark99 2 жыл бұрын
Without these two I wouldn’t have a love for knifes! Also I’m a anthropology major now and love the idea of looking at the knife community through a anthropological lens!
@wesworswick2816 2 жыл бұрын
YES! Make this a semi regular thing! Miss watching you both in the same video, and this was fantastic. Cheers guys.
@duartduplessis1046 2 жыл бұрын
Why did this bring me so much joy? Good old days
@beefbroroni 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are what got me into knives and now I thank you both truly love seeing y’all together
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in!👊
@ricas1143 2 жыл бұрын
"Form & function" those are the basics of a good design. Truly happy to see an intentional design for form, price and user. Being a designer it's refreshing to see these concepts being truly thought of. Hope to see more from you Ben and who knows a collaboration between you 2. Cheerios
@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
Ricardo! I love that you call yourself a designer. I'm a total hack job making weird stuff in my basement and passing it off as "design." ;)
@ricas1143 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on Ben:) Graphic designer and only dipped my toes in industrial design while on university, still from a basement or a study creativity is all.. aligned with your 1st hand knowledge one can only expect great things to come...will for sure be following your path and adding more knives to the collection;) um abraço
@tradesmithedc Жыл бұрын
If I could like this video 100 times I would. It is AMAZING to see you two together again talking knives
@christopherbrendeland1206 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I didn't think I would ever see this dynamic duo together again! Please make this a regular thing 🙏. Ideas? How about more interviews from designers? Jesper is a fantastic interview! Or maybe other industry figure heads, like the great Nick Shabazz! Show off those interview skills Zac!
@apoptosis4all526 2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video/conversation between you two! You both brought so much insight and knowledge and passion that this was genuinely a fun one to watch. I’m loving the content so far and am looking forward to your next duo video! ✌️
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! Once we get going we kind of just keep going🤣
@zuology3437 2 жыл бұрын
Omg it's happening again! I will buy whatever I need to fund the continued duo episodes whichever channel they are on. SO HAPPY. The way these two interact is so fantastic and open up more minds together
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
I really do love feeding off of Ben’s perspective!
@DailyDrivenBikes_1 2 жыл бұрын
It's awesome to see Ben again, whaat is up guys. Lol and upgrading and customizing knives it's fun 😄 and everyone needs a mermaid 🧜♀️ in their knife collection.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
He is the best!
@DailyDrivenBikes_1 2 жыл бұрын
I have a flytainium hardware kit coming for one of my paramilitary 2s.
@lorihaymore6188 2 жыл бұрын
Always love seeing the two of you together!
@nicholascoulter3760 2 жыл бұрын
It's kinda like how Disney and Pixar made Ants and A Bugs Life with absolutely no thought to what the other was doing but through market research both realized that a movie about bugs would do well.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
This was an exact example I thought to use but never got too😎
@jasonscott6906 2 жыл бұрын
So awesome to see you both together, I had just got Into the knife hobby and found blade HQ right around the time time that you two were doing the videos together. I subscribed to your channel Zac when you had done the very first video and you had made four or five and then you didn’t make any for a few months so I figured you had decided to stop I’m so glad you decided to keep going, I really enjoy all your content please keep them coming. And thanks for keeping it positive man 👍 I appreciate it. And Ben you are awesome and I will buy one your knives when they are available, I really love simple design as well.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found us here. The support means the world👊
@auggieedc205 2 жыл бұрын
You guys absolutely exude positive vibes! Keep being the best at what you do!
@kathrynhorn8095 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see both of you back on the same table, your vids is a couple of reasons why my knife collection started. Amazing content and really glad to see both of you being passionate without restraints again :).
@PaulMunkoTV 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great conversation guys! Loved hearing you guys get into the nitty gritty here. One of the biggest things I catch myself doing when designing knives is wondering "does it look to close to x, y or z". It's a pain, because it brings me to a point of indecision where some ideas just get scrapped all together. I think when sketching something, it is a lot easier to be hyper aware of your own influences in a way that far exceeds how others will see it. The sum of all of the parts is what makes something unique in it's own way!
@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
I love hearing this from you, Paul. You've been there, my friend!
@PaulMunkoTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@benbanters Absolutely! It's ok to be inspired, slowly getting comfortable with that notion. Congrats on the Lander Ben, wishing you a ton of success on this release!
@GMono-qs6cl 2 жыл бұрын
Often imitated never duplicated. You can't buy chemistry. There's a way to tie in with one another to help each other with your respective goals. I'll let you guys figure that out. Whatever the means, I'm sure it will be highly entertaining and informative. Xmas is a long time away. Quarterly? Semi-monthly? Continued success. You two are killing it!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!👊
@Mridgwell 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome !!! Great to see you guys back together again . My obsession with knife content was fueled by your videos on BHQ I have a whole new appreciation for how great those days were . Thanks Ben and Zach great to see you both on a new journey thanks for the memories
@johnelder4273 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you dudes together and having fun. Great video!
@IvIidnight 2 жыл бұрын
Love seein' y'all back together talking knives! You said there was a "Ham Hands" cameo in another video; do y'all know what's going on with BladeHQ's KZfaq channel not putting out videos and/or why Kurt wasn't a part of their Blade Show coverage?
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Kurt left HQ a few months ago.
@ml8067 2 жыл бұрын
Zac, thanks for doing a video Ben. You two just have a great chemistry. This was a really good topic. You know we would welcome more of these videos. Please keep doing what you are doing now. Really good to have you back
@jeremybernstein8808 2 жыл бұрын
This was the fastest 30+ minute video I’ve ever watched. As for doing it again, I’d watch this type of content from you guys every week!!! Please continue to do all of the things you’ve been doing!
@gordonmacdowell8117 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see the Team back together again! I miss this in depth discussion on knives.
@poncho151 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad both of you are still around and thriving in the digital media knife space with your respective independent ventures!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for following along!
@christiancannon3364 2 жыл бұрын
This definitely felt nostalgic. Absolutely rad to see you both talking about knifes like old times.
@LRRP69 2 жыл бұрын
Dude it is so awesome to see you guys back together. Yall are the best. Need more of this kind
@clintashmead3558 2 жыл бұрын
So EPIC to see you guys together again!!!
@jealous37 2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing Ben again after so long. Please do more videos with Ben!
@MR.MR.DESIGNS 2 жыл бұрын
Two legends. Ben is spot on with his knife design theories and philosophies. Please make this a regular series!👍
@danielwendell542 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely a joy to see you two sitting and talking knives. Love it!
@fredf9562 2 жыл бұрын
During the first days of the pandemic lockdown your joint videos on BHQ got me to resume knife collecting, after a 35 year hiatus. My first new knife, the Elementum! You both should make content periodically. Thanks 🙏
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Great blade choice!
@eilambyle 2 жыл бұрын
so much fun to see you two !
@wordoftruthbroadcast2632 2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing y'all together
@Ricky_R Жыл бұрын
This is the video I needed in my life. Thanks so much guys! Love seeing the boys together
@chrisv6321 2 жыл бұрын
We needed this video? Great work guys!
@andyhayward1261 Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely do this again guys! Great video!
@dp505knives 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Christmas Special, really enjoyed the video and truths of design.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking hot cocoa, a fire, and some pointy things🎅
@phantom6knight 2 жыл бұрын
This was such an incredible video for so many reasons! I loved the intro; I firmly believe that if your relationship with one another in “real” life - always there for each other! Having you guys together again for a video is always a treat! It was like watching an after school special, or when a guest star shows up on your favorite show! And the discourse was amazing… convergent and divergent design and cultural content… I feel much more educated! I’m glad you see the Lander as a Honda Accord, solid vehicle of choice and makes a great analogy! It makes me so excited to get that Lander to match my Accord! 🤗 Definitely do more videos like this, I miss both your perspectives on knife designs, philosophies, and general knife life. You’re both such kind and powerful voices in this community and it’s inspirational!
@AdamsJon 2 жыл бұрын
What a treat! Keep the content coming!!!!
@jandreoni Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh, this is like the good 'ole days! This made my week, thanks, guys!!!
@randyratliff9598 2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing you guys together again!! I’ll be here for Christmas!!
@bushmaster8912 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, absolutely marvelous throwback.
@TDAWDepthFinder 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Definitely great seeing you guys together again, definitely needs to happen again!
@Mo.89. Жыл бұрын
This video was so great, great to have you guys back at the desk together!
@JamesMBC Жыл бұрын
I love that Zack and Ben are doing their own thing, their own YT channels. These guys have done so much for the knife world. And they are naturals at being youtubers. Such good content, keep it up!
@joeverason8485 2 жыл бұрын
This is literally the best thing ever!!!!
@dustanpietz7921 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god you guys are back
@Its_a_knifestyle 2 жыл бұрын
Yooo. This makes me happy. Glad to see you 2 at the same table again!!!
@jackoko3457 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! Zac thank you so much for sitting down with Ben again! Awesome job on the channel! I wish you nothing but the best and I'll be here watching every step of the journey 🤘🤙
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much🙏
@jordanhughes1245 2 жыл бұрын
Ben and Zach together again. Amazing!
@Marcobuck 2 жыл бұрын
Explained in a perfect way. In the end you can bring back 80% of all folders to the Buck 110
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely so many come back to just a handful of tradition patterns.👊
@bdm3052 2 жыл бұрын
Man I’ve been waiting for this day. Just like old times
@dannykampner 2 жыл бұрын
What is unique here is that you all seem to be having FUN and ENJOYING what you are doing - and sharing this joy and enthusiasm with others! Keep it up !! Its not just a tech review - its a mood uplift !!
@jamesmaggio7560 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Nice to see yous together again❗️
@islandstylegear4552 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, this was awesome!!!💪🙌
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
🤘🤘
@SuperPeleke 2 жыл бұрын
What a dose of nostalgia. Thanks for doing this, brings back memories!
@c1owd9biz63 Жыл бұрын
The iconic “What is up guys!” is just grand. Always brings a smile
@vanrooyendavid 2 жыл бұрын
I live on the South Island of New Zealand. It's 5am. I'm secretly and quietly watching this as to not make a noise. It's freezing cold in the middle of winter but I am so happy because long last again I can watch two men that know knives! Awesome. I hope you are doing this more often.
@benbanters 2 жыл бұрын
I love this comment so much. Stay warm down there!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥
@timbober1 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you two together
@aldenbarbieri Жыл бұрын
Definitely need more Ben Banter talk!!!
@randytherhino 2 жыл бұрын
Top notch production! Love your guys energy together!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
We definitely pump each other up😁
@licustoms Жыл бұрын
From A Ben to Zac! Yes please, your combined dynamics and banters play well together, so keep these coming!
@bobyu84 2 жыл бұрын
So awesome to see this. Your original BHQ vids were what got me into the knife game.
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Stoked to found us here!
@supermamasntapas 2 жыл бұрын
This made me so happy!! ❤️😄😄
@Kentucky338 Жыл бұрын
That was an insane beginning. Loved it! You guys make great videos.
@My_kind_of_knife 2 жыл бұрын
This is the video we all needed. Maybe not the video we deserve but I’m so happy we are here!!
@timnichol6566 Жыл бұрын
The reunion I didn't know I needed. Thanks guys!
@emesser7087 Жыл бұрын
Again really nice to watch you two. Enjoyd the complete video 🙂👌
@BoatingWithBlake 2 жыл бұрын
Keep the colabs going you guys are great!
@chopperh4090 2 жыл бұрын
More of this!!!! I would watch you two talk about almost anything! Great video please give us more of you two!!!!!
@teenghiem7852 2 жыл бұрын
Smiling see you guys together again!
@J.O.VenturesOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
So great to see you guys together again! Thanks for the great video!
@zacinthewild 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@AnomadAlaska 2 жыл бұрын
That was great. Brought back some good memories for me.
@lukehorning3404 2 жыл бұрын
It’s awesome to see boy’s back together
@jeffbownds8130 2 жыл бұрын
Blast from the past! Love this! More please
@briank.7937 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the two of you banter again
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