Zak Brown says Max VERSTAPPEN can be BEATEN. By who?! Tyred DEBATE

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Күн бұрын

Zak Brown reckons Max only wins a title because of the RB19/20. He reckons Lando is the fastest he has ever seen.
Ammar and Shez challenge Zak Brown. Who can beat Max in EQUAL machinery of the current F1 crop?
Not one to miss...
00:00 Introduction
01:50 Zak Brown quotes
09:30 Lando Norris
13:45 Charles Leclerc
19:45 George Russell
30:10 Oscar Piastri
32:08 Lewis Hamilton
37:20 Fernando Alonso
41:22 The Reckoning

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@Magyarkhan
@Magyarkhan 20 күн бұрын
Lando knows Max is a tad faster.... they know each other well and already a hierachy is established between them.
@kwanzafrank2902
@kwanzafrank2902 20 күн бұрын
Zak is definitely over doing it, i've literally never seen anyone in RB even acknowledge his existence
@LeonSchaap-xz7cc
@LeonSchaap-xz7cc 20 күн бұрын
If zak stay pushing about Lando Norris,i believe its very bad for lando.let him do and say you are winning today, Lando is good enough thats he no wen,why and were he feels it wen it,s coming.but of zak do and say all that stupid things,i hope(sorry)that it not end as Senna....zak be carefully what your have in your team,it,s coming......
@walthervanstipriaan818
@walthervanstipriaan818 20 күн бұрын
Chaz, name me one driver that has less mistakes then Max? Like 1? Even dare to say in history..? For the last 4 years running. The thing with Max is not only his blinding speed and amazing racecraft, he is a metronome like no other.
@eliasbergsteigerausschwarz3654
@eliasbergsteigerausschwarz3654 20 күн бұрын
Max used zu crash in everybody on the grid, if you duel with him. Just the faster car now give him the safety advantage. Ne never leave space for any driver, but complain everytime, the other should leave him space. 🤗
@Ogole-oye
@Ogole-oye 20 күн бұрын
@@eliasbergsteigerausschwarz3654 the question is in the last four years... even Lewis used to be prone to incidents in his early years.
@JayQ2k
@JayQ2k 20 күн бұрын
​@@Ogole-oyeLewis could have been WDC in his rookie year if it wasn't for some gravel beach entering the pitlane. So yeah, you're correct there.
@daveruda
@daveruda 20 күн бұрын
@@Ogole-oye yeah when he doesnt have to race anyone he doesnt crash into the guys 30 seconds back. Impressive feat!
@JS-ll8nk
@JS-ll8nk 20 күн бұрын
NOBODY BEATS MAX IN EQUAL MACHINARY
@pietervanbreda4360
@pietervanbreda4360 20 күн бұрын
Miami Max 0 Safety car 1
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
*machinery Ammar
@Surfsaus
@Surfsaus 13 күн бұрын
Not yet.
@the1gladiator2
@the1gladiator2 20 күн бұрын
Hamilton is a no brainer for NOT being able to beat Verstappen under equal conditions. 2021 proved as much where Mercedes had the better car, Verstappen had all the bad luck and Hamilton stole a win by sending Verstappen into the wall. If everything had been fair in 2021 Hamilton would have not been close and even Hamilton fans know it if they would be honest.
@jeroenbons637
@jeroenbons637 20 күн бұрын
Zak mr…Brown is working on his popularity level with remarks to the ears of Max haters. And other bored so called F1 fans. Zak in Dutch means Bag and that is exactly what he is a Bag full of Beans. He likes to poke in wounds and to steer unrest in crowds.
@dscottstoness2436
@dscottstoness2436 20 күн бұрын
Charles question is similar to Lando - does he have enough mental toughness. Max/Charle have better technical corners than Lando. Piastri needs a few years. I think Max is mentally tougher than Hamilton and Hamilton is showing his age and would not qualify as well as max. Alonso could compete with tactics offsetting qualifying . Charles could come close but Max would win for mental toughness. George has potential but pushes too hard and fails - he needs to grow up and he loses focus at critical moments. Max would win against any other 2025, with Alonso and Charles and Hamilton in order closest. 2026 and beyond - Charles and Piastri are the best bets, as Alonso and Hamilton decline in age and fire in their belly, and age/reaction diminishes qualifying, and Oscar and Charles get experience racing max. Either Zak was speaking without thinking or he was trying to get to Max/Horner or he was trying to motivate Lando. Most experts consider Max to have superior corner entry /exit skills and he clearly has higher confidence and experience - the better bet is Oscar. This makes me think he was trying to motivate Lando. Lando had good luck in winning his first race with safety car and RB bad setup and damage. Otherwise Max, Laclere, Checo, Piastria and Sainz would have been in front of him. This was a 3 for one - increase the confidence of Lando, increase the expectations on Piastri, and cause pressure on Max.
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
Agree with pretty much all of this
@michaeldellorso889
@michaeldellorso889 20 күн бұрын
Zak’s quote about Max not winning in any other car isn’t controversial IMO. It’s difficult to say and too hypothetical. Who is driving the Red Bull? If it’s two Checo’s, Max wins the title in a McLaren or Ferrari. But we also don’t know how much those two teams will develop or how Lando or Charles would look in the Red Bull. Bit of a weird quote by Zak though, kind of insulting his own car/engineers.
@alicekoppenol-pitti6257
@alicekoppenol-pitti6257 20 күн бұрын
Ah my favorite family feud duo😂 I read Mr Brawn's comments and went through the different stages of outrage, then a bit more clinical listening and then really taking in what he is saying. Technically he is not wrong. Lando is quick and can and should beat Max. Hell Max will be the first to admit to this. Same for Charles. As drivers when it comes to pure speed Max, Charles, Lando and even George are at the same level. But Max has gained his maturity and experience in an actual title fight and the man is made of titanium when it comes to pressure. In that sense the car doesn't matter. It is the mindset under pressure that matters. I'd like to see what they can do when they see that yellow nose in his rearview mirror because up until now each and every one of them cracked under that pressure. They all made mistakes eventually. On that note, having equal cars does not mean equal handling of the cars .It will come down to driving style and intelligent choices and to be honest Charles and Lando have been known for making poor choices and on occasion even Lewis. Max will have is off days but like in Miami he knows when not to fight and still bring in the points. Imola is going to be interesting because each and every one is going to try to usurp Max. Max to Mercedes still gives me the itch. It does not add up in my mind. It's like pouring Red Bull in a tea cup.
@pietervanbreda4360
@pietervanbreda4360 20 күн бұрын
Max, Alonso, Oscar, Carlos, Charles,George ,Lewis,Lando
@HerrStaale
@HerrStaale 20 күн бұрын
If they can beat Max in equal car, they must better than Hamilton ever was.. That driver is not on the grid!
@kwanzafrank2902
@kwanzafrank2902 20 күн бұрын
in terms of who can beat Max, Lando,George,Albon would need to be at their absolute best to even get a sniff,Max is someone who can be super fast and super consistent in every race bar one or two in a season since 2018, none of these guys have ever done that, Charles is the only equal to Max in terms of absolute pace but i think Max's race management over different races and track conditions has always been better in any category they can be compared, but if Charles works on that he can definitely beat max but it would be extreme difficulty. Only lewis and not even Alonso has the necessary attributes to beat max and i am talking about 2014-2019 lewis
@TimBiester-yu6hu
@TimBiester-yu6hu 20 күн бұрын
Its simple; Max is pulling a Schumi.. its his era. You had your days with Lewis. Fair and square
@Ancient_mystic.
@Ancient_mystic. 20 күн бұрын
Love the chemistry guys!!! And the back for forth argument/discussion/banter is great. 😅. Keep up the great content.
@chriswilly1960
@chriswilly1960 20 күн бұрын
C’mon! How can ppl like you put Max and Charles in the same sentence. I understand that talking shit can attract viewers and followers, but let’s not be dumb too. What Charles needs before a title, it’s to fight for a championship with consistency in his performances all the season long. Max is in the category of the all-time greats. So we can’t put Charles or Lando in the same sentence. We only started to put Max among the all time greats last year and not before. So please put some respect. Tomorrow you will say that Lando and Charles are better than Michael Lewis Senna and and Max united? C’mon it might be better to rename the channel F1 Dreams & Fantasy.
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
Well they’re on the grid together and in competitive cars so if they’re next to each other on the track we should be able to talk about them in the same sentence!
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 20 күн бұрын
The issue with beating Max is Max is the best or very close to the best concerning every aspect of driving. Let's take in the wet for example. If you rate every driver based off the following: - one lap pace - fuel pace - tire management - awareness/race management - wheel to wheel racing - in the wet - under pressure - hero laps - absolute must win mentality If you look at the following and look at the last 10 years and you will see Max Verstappen highlights of all of these lol. That's the problem for everyone else
@gregmarcus3064
@gregmarcus3064 20 күн бұрын
until there is no RB 19 under him hahaha. Its just the car.
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 20 күн бұрын
@gregmarcus3064 really? Max dominated Kartin to the point where he is regarded as the greatest of all time He won 10 races in F/GP3 for a team that had never scored a podium Youngest race winner ever Won 10 races in the mercedes era with an underpowered car Most of the formula 1 highlight reels in the last 7-8 years belong to Max. Literally owns ever single season record Keep trying
@daveruda
@daveruda 20 күн бұрын
@@Lanse1984 and yet he needed the FIA to step in and gift him a title when there was a close competitor
@user-qy2bp4me8i
@user-qy2bp4me8i 20 күн бұрын
@@daveruda Err no he didn't - HAM had just as much chance as Max to win in the final laps of Abu '21 - HAM QUIT - NO pit NO defense and basically LET Max through - which is just one example of why HAM can never be the GOAT and Max is ... #COPE 😭
@gregmarcus3064
@gregmarcus3064 20 күн бұрын
@@user-qy2bp4me8i Kerp supporting your AD 2021 paper / rule change champion.
@JaySamurai79
@JaySamurai79 20 күн бұрын
I think any of the top 5 drivers can bring it to Max. What nobody is talking about is the difference of driving when your racing 1 second a lap faster than anyone else compared to driving in a machine that's similar to everyone else. Take Charles as an example. He is constantly on the limit causing him to make more mistakes than Max. Wheres as if you put Max up against it, his driving style will be more erratic. 2021 as an example was pure banger racing and driving cars offline. However in today he has much more class because he has the machinery to do so.
@FelipeBorgesJF
@FelipeBorgesJF 20 күн бұрын
I think most likely drivers to beat Max with a competitive car and team are Lewis and Alonso just because they've done it before and we know they can handle the pressure. Out of the other drivers I think Leclerc, Russel, maybe Norris. I also think Piastri has potential
@user-qy2bp4me8i
@user-qy2bp4me8i 20 күн бұрын
Yes - 1 guy with no wins in a decade + and the other guy with no wins in almost 3 solid years - RIPE for beating Max 🙄
@FelipeBorgesJF
@FelipeBorgesJF 20 күн бұрын
@user-qy2bp4me8i what you said is basically saying max would never win a championship based on his years before 2021. Easy to dismiss Alonso and lewis chances of winning races when they have terrible cars and teams
@firulaybimbinisio
@firulaybimbinisio 20 күн бұрын
Ehhhhhhh when Botas was at Mercedes... Valteri this James😂😂😂😂 they let them fight he said loooooool 😅😂
@pietervanbreda4360
@pietervanbreda4360 20 күн бұрын
Geoge drove into Aloso, Bothas Lewis Carlos................
@Surfsaus
@Surfsaus 13 күн бұрын
In time Piastri will dispose of Max imo. He's just as quick and has no emotion on the racetrack. He just needs more races. Those comments by zac were silly and not overly smart if he wamts to keep piastri past his current contract.
@Cati-ws7ei
@Cati-ws7ei 20 күн бұрын
zak moving different after 1 win
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
💯
@gieonexar
@gieonexar 20 күн бұрын
This is what really annoys me!!! George beat Lewis blah blah in 2022... Suddenly there is no mention of all the experiments Lewis had to do and continued to do until recently while George just got comfortable!!!
@joseco1978
@joseco1978 20 күн бұрын
Max turns into his old Crashtappen self as soon as he isn't winning.
@user-qy2bp4me8i
@user-qy2bp4me8i 20 күн бұрын
How would you know ? It's been YEARS since Max didn't win in consecutive races - get oVER your hate dude - SUPERMAX is the GOAT 🐐 #COPEHARDER 🤡😭
@Dark.Valkyrie
@Dark.Valkyrie 20 күн бұрын
Great video 👍 my list is : 1)Leclerc/Lewis 2) Alonso 3) Lando/Oscar/George
@Ogole-oye
@Ogole-oye 20 күн бұрын
This conversation needs to take into account the present stature and maturity over time... You can't judge anyone by what they have not done Chez that's mad!!!! judge based on what is evident. Just looking at last season and this season, Lando has made mistakes that he himself keeps beating himself up for. Where talent is undeniable, it comes down to who make fewest mistakes and who copes well with pressure...the number of times Lando has made mistakes on the grid this year and the year before...Max is not only fast, he is consistent, he is very adaptable, drives well in the wet, much more mature and preserves tires.....Also Zak talks too much noise and gaslighting. He loves to be at the center of the universe. Lando himself turned down the opportunity at Redbull....Lando said it himself, no one beats Max in the Redbull.
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
Lol - watch the whole thing! We do not rate Lando highly of the group we discuss. Neither of us particularly thought he’d be able to beat Max in equal machinery
@Ogole-oye
@Ogole-oye 20 күн бұрын
@@tyredf1pod I know you didn't rate as high and I agree with the number of guys you put ahead of him with the exception of Oscar in my view. I have a little bit left of the show to watch saving for later after work. Had chance to view it during my lunch break. my pushback though is aimed at the Max part where you you hold it against him because he you haven't seen him tested..or something to them at regard. That's why I was saying judge based on what he has done not what he hasn't. I think what someone hasn't done should not be used against them to mark down what they have done. It's like ppl who would say Alonso is better than Lewis cos he won in a different format of sport and I'm like you can't use that against Lewis. Rate him based on what he's done.
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
@@Ogole-oyeok fair - apologies
@reteipdevries
@reteipdevries 20 күн бұрын
500 subs an it has an opinion. clickbaity but still. on to 600 subs!
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
Thanks mate - more the merrier!
@firulaybimbinisio
@firulaybimbinisio 20 күн бұрын
Come on Cheziño... I got such of respect of you.. Lando has won just 1 race and now you are putting him infront or Max in the same machinery?! Oscar was doing better than him in Miami with 1/2 of the update and cause of SC Lando got lucky. If the SC would've p8ck up Lando instead of Max according the Delta he would' come in P5.. but that wasn't the case. He got free air and coul pull a gap between Max and him.. en Remember Max had damage on the floor maybe that was the reason he couldn't keep up with Lando. I mean I like Lando, he is a very very good driver but just by winning once he already beating everybody. 😅😅😅😅 Charles he can't handle the pressure he also makes a lot of mistakes.
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
Definitely not saying Lando can beat Max in equal cars - in fact the complete opposite!
@JayQ2k
@JayQ2k 20 күн бұрын
If equal machinery means going to Red Bull with Max in the other car, then the answer is simple: nobody. Charles will probably get closest and the rest will get their complete operation run into the ground. If you take the premise of the remark (6 or 7 drivers could become WDC in RB20), implicitly meaning no Max I would still doubt those 6 or 7. The RB20 seems easier to drive, so perhaps. If you'd talk about the RB19 however, then only Charles might be able to take it all the way seeing how nervous that car was. And finally who can beat Max in equal machinery that is NOT a Red Bull car: Charles, Lewis...and that's pretty much it. Lewis has proven it, but I don't think he'll be able today. Charles is the only one with the raw talent and the similarities in driving that can take on Max. In the end...any error made by your competition will effectively roll out the Red carpet for Max, since he don't make no mistakes. George (Singapore, Canada and more), Lando (real pressure and he's a goner) are a no for me. Oscar perhaps in time. And even Fernando does things that Max will expose. And Max already dealt with Carlos before. So Zak is better of trying to yank another .5 seconds out of the McLaren...and then he'll probably understand what Stella meant when he said that the last step to a McLaren championship is the Max-factor.
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
Equal machinery is NOT going to Red Bull with Max in the other car - we make that very clear in the video
@JayQ2k
@JayQ2k 20 күн бұрын
@@tyredf1pod I know. That's why I split up my answers into 3 hypotheticals for completeness. That Perez is still able to deal with what Max sends him is commendable on his part. He's not good enough, but anybody with the ambition to challenge Max will get wrecked so bad they might want to retire immediately. But technically having Max and someone else in a Red Bull is a form of equal machinery. So that's why I included it. Currently there are 3 real racers (Max, Lewis, Alonso) on the grid, whilst the other 17 are choir boys. The choir boys are fast, but they'll never be able to win against a real racer in a head to head battle. Charles is literally the only one with the talent, but he's too nice to really make a dent in the armor of Max.
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
@@JayQ2klove it
@ricky_876
@ricky_876 20 күн бұрын
George won Brazil because Max took out Lewis, and Lewis had to fight his way back to second.
@user-qy2bp4me8i
@user-qy2bp4me8i 20 күн бұрын
Lewis took out Max - HAM did the old sidepod-shunt-and-run - give your head a wobble 🙄
@ricky_876
@ricky_876 20 күн бұрын
@@user-qy2bp4me8i Max said from his own mouth what he did! go back and listen the post race from Max. Pretty much max wanted Ham to give him the clear way so he took it knowing that his car was not good that weekend and he had nothing to loose.
@user-qy2bp4me8i
@user-qy2bp4me8i 20 күн бұрын
@@ricky_876 Rubbish- go watch the video - speaks for itself - HAM had nothing to race for - Max was trying to set the Wins record - what you say makes 0 sense in any way - give your head a wobble 🤡
@henrimoll9621
@henrimoll9621 20 күн бұрын
It's a bit pityful to hear all the hope for new glory for Lewis... open the eyes..face the facts.
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
What facts?
@kwanzafrank2902
@kwanzafrank2902 20 күн бұрын
Carlos is a no, in 2015 Mx who had only one year in car racing had races where he was more than a second a lap quicker, ala spain,cota
@michaeldellorso889
@michaeldellorso889 20 күн бұрын
Nobody is beating Max in equal machinery. I currently have the rankings as 2) Lando 3) Charles. Those two would put up the best fight, but are ultimately flawed. Great drivers, but Max is arguably unprecedented. Lando makes his little quali errors and is still a weak character IMO. Too emotional. Charles, aside from his errors, will be slower than Carlos on too many occasions. IDK exactly the cause, but he doesn’t have the adaptability of a Max.
@daveruda
@daveruda 20 күн бұрын
Zak is like the only one that doesnt just parrot the standard F1 pr narratives. For some reason he is dares to calls out the FIA, says the obvious about the toxic and shady practices at Redbull and that Max cannot win in a Haas. And thats considered out of line!? Thank god there is at least someone like that
@killianpotworoska3096
@killianpotworoska3096 20 күн бұрын
Haha... Max and Lewis in equal cars in 2021.... haha. Lewis was defeated by Max Verstappen in a lesser car than Lewis's Mercedes! And in addition, Max has also statistically fully deserved the championship in 2021, despite the last race! It has been the moment of the dethronement of Lewis Hamilton! That constant battle you have to wage with yourselves to downgrade a Max Verstappen says everything about your mental state and nothing at all about the wonderful and exceptional phenomenon you are resisting so hard and completely uselessly! You almost have to be lefties, Anti-Trumpers, Climate crises, Woke, pro-Palestine, White supremacy, diversity and inclusivity believers... otherwise you cannot explain this mindset because it has nothing to do with true Formula 1 fans!
@tyredf1pod
@tyredf1pod 20 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see what a true formula 1 looks like! Ammar
@pietervanbreda4360
@pietervanbreda4360 20 күн бұрын
Oscar will be champion before Lando
@pietervanbreda4360
@pietervanbreda4360 20 күн бұрын
George and Charles is on par
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