😂😂😂😂

Very underrated comment bro lmao

@@DrothXO it ain't his its from 16chan

@@jokeruiner4481 didnt know actually. I dont use that website. Nevermind

I was hoping someone would put this here

I’m thinking both at the same time lol

its the cutest spider i have ever seen ^^

- 60% Simping for Shelob/Rule 34/Thirst Comments/Horny-ahh mfs - 20% People hating this game because "It Isn't lore accurate" even though the game is not canon to the lore - 15% 4Chan Greentext reference - 5% Comparing her to Liv Tyler/Stoya/Mila Jovovich

1% celibrimbor hate

Yep. Damn game got me all confused about that big spider lol. 🤣

The first time I saw her, I was like: Welp, I think my arachophobia just commited suicide.

Astrithor Bigot against spiders. Fucking racist.

So am i... but wtf? I'm so confused

she used to be human but she turned herself into a spider at some point

yes. Arousement can be deathening and pretty sad

This! XD

lolololol

Haha try Shethot

BOOOOOOO! 😡

Sheslob

PRATIK1900 those fuckin elves

All elves are assholes and willing to sacrifice all to get what they want due to their unwavering pride

Well its for the greater good

Fucking thalmor

the character of Celebrimbor was mutilated beyond recognition for this game. This has very little to do with anything Tolkein ever wrote about him.

Took people 2 years to notice...

We must pass this knowledge to our daughters

Yeah I guess Shefukd

@@ode0003 keep it secret, keep it safe.

Or "The Abhorred".

i see what you did there.

DILF or SDLF Spider-demon...

you mean SILS?

2nd "s" for what? "Sniff"? "Scrub"?

R G nah. Lemme "smash" 😉

I was also surprised. I mean, this version of Shelob is so different from canon, that it almost makes Sam look like a dick.

The developers should had wrote her as another Ungoliat´s daughter, one more subtle and with more brains than Shelob.

Dex4Sure This begs the question as to why she attacks Frodo and Sam if she was against Sauron's victory

PinkFloydFan04 That's actually kind of sad

...or maybe she spent too much time in spider shape and got completely consumed by hate that she inherited from her mother and released when Sauron betrayed her.

Her mother was called Ungoliant and was a giant spider demon, dark lord what’s-his-fuck doesn’t sound too odd

Yeah having a Mother like Ungoliant, Shelob must have thought Sauron was hot and fit right to the family (honest his Elven form was handsome enough).

I dont think he had that name just yet

Peculiar that innit, seeing as that's probably how that femanazi bull shit started. Ladies being with wealthy toxic males who only want to be with them because "they are holes in which to fuck". That crap seems unending these days. Sad 🙄

Litterally common day white girls

Alsemenor ungoliant was powerful enough to kill the strongest Valar. I'm prettt sure her daughter would be powerful enough to change form is she desired.

Well, it's possible, of course. But considering we've had no sort of indication that Ungoliath's daughters were anything else but very large, hungry and intelligent spiders, I still find a bit odd that Shelob would be a shapeshifter.

+James Gravil perhaps her logic was that if she got the ring, she could destroy Sauron herself

What if she had deteriorated, both her mind and her soul. She probably just became that spider.

I got the impression from the film it was just a giant spider that wanted to eat.

mr. T sexual life hasn't been that active since his wife's death. Hence the desperation.

HDD FD AADF

Talion: That's precisely the point.

If you havent realized just how many human males will play the role of the male Black Widow, I would recommend you pay attention a bit more closely 🙂

rjhemedes I thought Ungoliant betrayed Morgoth? All he did was refuse to give her the silmarils

Aidan Douglas Mellor promised Ungoliant anything she wanted after she helped him destroy the trees of light. She asked for the Silmarion. He betrayed her by breaking his promise and then summoning a host of balrogs to repel her. So she fled.

Ah, that makes sense then. Thanks!

It's funny reading that a huge spider makes cry the strongest Vala, and that Morgoth practically need the help of his Balrogs to win XD.

I mean, at that point, he had severely lessered himself by spilling his essence into the very earth itself. Had it been before that, I am quite sure Melkor would have decimated Ungoliant

this is a true story after sex, the male partner would be killed and "sacrifice must be made" (spider route) you want your kids to see a father like you not yourself in the grave!! Rofl.... try look at the animal tv channel, female spider kills male spider after sex. i hate both sides, elves and spiders, i cant have both childs at once or i cant have either one of them. elves are liars, and spiders are traps. i wishes both are humans so i can have both waifus/wifes. why cannot i have it? wait, i need the good ending to raise kids and with a good wife (if doesnt give me options for two wives at least i need one im not a greedy ones) and not to gain the nothing just to repeat the endless cycle of wars.

@@zulfahmi9701 1- Holy fuck that was hard to read. 2- Are you implying Talion should bang Shelob? 3- Do you only think with your dick?

Funnily enough, there's an anime with the exact same message

That's what Gimli said

@@runtergerutscht4401 oh yeah that spider anime

If this was possible, he'd have started the zombie apocalypse over the Hobbit movie - I honestly don't think this game commits as much horrendous mangling of the lore as some state.

Iain Howe That is objectively absurd. Literally less than 5% of the 2 garbage games are remotely Canon or even plausible. This is a disgrace to Tolkien and it disgusts me how it was obvious they wanted to milk morons who has seen the movies but don't actually know shit about The Lord of the Rings. They could have made they're world but nope gotta be greedy bastard and use someone else life work and then butcher it but keep the title.

It might well be subjectively absurd, but it's just an opinion. They obviously wanted to use an existing and very popular IP because that's how you make more money. When making a commercial product based on an existing work of lore, you want to seek out corners that haven't been fleshed out and add in new themes, characters and so forth - you can't travel over the same ground as the original author. See, that's why I hated the Hobbit movie more. There IS a story called the Hobbit and it's subjectively very good indeed but Peter Jackson felt the need not to massage the story beats to better fit a different medium, but rather to create swathes of garbage narrative. A game HAS to invent.

This isn't fleshing out corners of the world left unexplored, this is changing an existing character into something Tolkein never intended. Just like how they made fucking Isildur and Helm Hammerhand into god damn ringwraiths when it was never suggested that they were and when the nine ringwraiths existed well before Isildur's time. Then there's the concept of making a second One Ring, the absurdity of which should be apparent simply by reading this sentence. The One Ring is unique, a manifestation of the deathless malice and hatred of a fallen angel, an incarnation of his very being. Kellog's Booberries can't just make another one. He's just some chump elf. The whole 'Celebrimbor stole the Ring and warred with Sauron' bit objectively enevr happend in the lore, either. I could go on and on and on about how much this game butchers existing lore, but we'd be here all day. suffice to say, this is not 'fleshing out the world', it's pissing on a timeless classic.

Yeah, I'm not suggesting for a MOMENT that any of this is Canon - no way. Some of the changes are VERY prominent, Celebrimbor's campaign, the date of the fall of Minas Ithil, Shelob not being the current avatar of consuming hunger - I'm sure you already have the list. This obviously has to be considered as an alternate timeline - my concern is whether the story is internally consistent. We only know, for certain, the identities of two of the Nazgul - the Witch King and his Lieutenant, Khamul. Three others were said to be Numenorean Kings, who traded their souls for eternity. That leaves four of the Nazgul whose identities we just don't know anything about, at all. We know that Nazgul can be killed - we see the Witch King killed - so it's not impossible that two of the four Nazgul died and were replaced by Isildur and Helm Hammer hand. It's worth remembering that Celebrimbor isn't just 'some chump of an elf' either, he's the guy who forged the Three, the rings that basically preserved Middle Earth for the whole of the Third Age. He made that freaky back door into Moria. He's the son of Feanor. Could he make another Master Ring? Ehhh... Sauron is one of the Maiar of Aule, you've got to think he has the edge in terms of craft, even over Feanor and Celebrimbor - but if anyone could do it, it would be either Celebrimbor or his father.

Also She uses promises to ensnare Talion and co as well as weave tales like silk

The irony was that expression was started by Sauron.

Smexy Sauron

Annatar form

Good point. I never noticed that.

What about the visions of Sauron betraying her?

Hunter 'Man Of' Steele untrue

@marcus24000 talion could see her because he isn't dead or alive

@marcus24000 the soldiers attacking here are the nine they are wraiths enslaved sauron and the elf is celebrimbor and he is a wraiths and the soldiers saw her as a spider

lucky bastard

splains why her brood so big. it was one ride he didn't want to get off but: " sacrifices have to be made" 🤣♥️♥️♥️

really?

Weeblackie This is my canon god damn it!

Honestly you could argue it fits with the films I do love the idea of Sauron just clapping some spider

Can female elves be a prostitutes?

Oh no

Tolkien is literally spinning in his grave.

It's funny how people get that mad about a videogame and a book, like sure none of it makes sense but it's fun and it's entertaining and maybe some of us like to think somehow it fits into the lore. Chad 100%

@@SithEmpiredidnothingwrong come on. Just let people have their fun. You don't have to be a wet blanket every time the lore goes slightly away from the exact texts. Why are you like this?

sauron used to date her is that what i am getting at here

Ungoliant is pure darkness. It makes sense it could take the form of the most powerful temptation. Men are bound to fall for greed and to die, just like Talion does. Not in the books, but somehow swallowable.

I feel they should've made this otherwise-awesome game character an adaptation of Ungoliant instead of Shelob.

@Leotis Bennett Sweet. We can have both cakes and eat em.

Just think this as a high budget fan fiction.

98% simps perhaps 😂😝

Shelob is from The Two Towers book.

honestly its cause her mother ungoliant could shapeshift but its never explicitly stated that shelov could do this

@@SammyBooy2814 yes it is. When she went to middle earth she assumed a spider form. When Sam hurt her she tried to kill him with a stinger which spiders dont have

@@andrewalvarez4975 That just proves even a man as educated as Tolkien can still be ignorant of somethings, etymology in this case.

Wait a minute.....shes THAAATTT SPIDER!?!?!

No they were not, nothing in this game actually happened in anything Tolkien wrote. None of it is canon.

Christopher Phipps Trust me I know that, it's called humor.

Though Morgoth and Ungoliant did have an alliance but that went a little south for Morgoth when Ungoliant betrayed Morgoth for not holding his end of the bargain they struck.

wait, by definition woul'd be Morgoth the traitor? They had a bargain, he did not fullfil it.

what we all know tolkien is the lead developer

but muh disrespect to the legendarium Seriously, folks, it's *fanfiction.*

@@Emper0rH0rde There is no disrespect.

I thought I heard somewhere she was supposed to be Galadriels opposite or something like that game wise

They basically wanted a “Dark Galadriel”. And since Shelob is considered her opposite in the books, they made Shelob a “Galadriel”. She literally has the same role in the game for Talion that Galadriel has in the books with Frodo and Sam.

How does someone look like they have a mature voice?

John Phlips I mean like, a sexy yet powerful at the same time. Like a whisper to your ear but a normal tune.

Actually I'd say she looks more like Stoya!! Google her !!!

I think she looks like her voice actress, Pollyanna McIntosh (that looks like Milla Jovovich).

more like a young Uma Thurman to me xD

Mr. Ginger heeeeeeeeyyyyy

Mr. Ginger it's her sister from a parallel universe epic fan fiction idea

Much hotter, darker, more mysterious, and clearer about what she desires more than Yennefer. Also, she doesn't go all: "CIRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!".

@@ianvidarsen4314 yeah i like her more

Don't forget Talion Geralt lolol

Blinded I don’t in this it looks they show her more to be a prophetess trying to prevent a shitty future

She was kind of made as a counterpart to galadriel in a way

I'm okay with that :D

Hah. Leggy.

Blinded it probably would have been better just to make a original character

oh no

Japan: Hold my hentai

She was never a spider to begin with. Ungoliant took the form of a spider, but was never a spider. The same is with her offspring.

@nemo pouncey - Well spider or not, a creature can still have babies. Spiders, deer, other animals and insects do have babies, but are not humans. I am just saying she was never a spider. Ungoliant and She-Lob are creatures of the darkness, undefined and formless. They just chose a spider looking forms. If you notice She-Lob has a stinger in her spider form, which is not part of a spider.

"No Talion, go find Celebrimbor" "Hey gurl, you want sum Bright Lord?" "Talion, your light is small" "Wot"

Shenaniganizer XD

@@theonefrancis696 "lemme get a hobbit. bitches love hobbits."

Actress/model Pollyanna McIntosh Your welcome

Keyword: "movies" Because this is non-canon to the books.

Giovanni ciprani 1998 @Gmail com

It's canon and non-canon. It fits into the film continuity, but in no way is it a part of the book timeline.

Nah. I doubt she had the intelligence of a human. She was smarter than a spider, but she was never a spider in the first place. Ungoliant, Shelob's mother, was not even a spider. They were creatures of the darkness. Sauron used her, and fed her, to guard the back entrance. Shelob was just an endless pit of hunger.

@@cainabel6356 More cunning than intelligent I suppose then

@@cainabel6356 like Ungoliant wasn't an endless pit of hunger! One of the rumors about her death says that she devoured herself.

DarthLeapyous so true. And she didn't care for towers or rings!

It could be also that the power of "the one ring" made her attack Frodo much like it did with Boromir. Additionally, having seen Sauron grow in his might again she may of thought that by taking the one ring she could defeat Sauron.

The Morning Sage Shelob doesn't care about Sauron or anything beyond her hunger.

Is that not about ungoliant

DarthLeapyous That's one of my favorite passages from Lord of the Rings. Shelob was scarier as a bloated creature that only cared about her own hunger.

Yeah he was looken for some temp side booty and he dropped her she was like you muthafukka! 🤬👿🕷🕷🕷🖤🖤🖤

We never had an origin for Ungoliant and it was always rumored she was a dark spirit of some kind so this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility. Strange a weird direction to take her tbh.

The writers took some artistic license, Shelob was only just a Spider and Sauron saw her as his pet cat

kuzor0007 And Shelob is practically indiferent to Sauron XD

Especially weird since she was powerful enough to kill a shitload of powerful elf soldiers in this and in the real canon she ends up getting killed by a tubby hobbit with a short sword.

thehmc The book says that was because Sam use Shelob's own strengh to stab her with Sting. And Shelob don't die instantly, she die after some time.

Isnt that the point? That Celebrimbor is too drunk on power to see wisdom?

Mr. Potassium I get that reference!!!

I mean... that just describes her in the present during the books

@@ellagage1256 thats a huge character change , she loses intelligence and changes completely in 70 year ?

@@johnnyboygriffin5764 If you turned into a spider and stewed your hatred for 70 years... Would you be the same?

She sough power so that nothing could contain her, but she was unconcerned with Rings of Power. Bit of a contradiction there. Anyone within Middle Earth OBSESSED with their personal accumulation of power would by default be concerned with the Rings of Power, were they to come to know of the existence of said Rings

Mr Raptor He also had no other form so there goes any logic out of your petty argument. Holy God, some people can't remain coherent within one sentence. Truly shows the stupidity of our world and current education.

Emanuel Stenberg Whats your problem, why so hostile?

Mr Raptor My problem is you spewing nonsensical nonsense creating moronic confusion upon the Tolkien work. Newcomers think you are right and will defend this objective atrocity and in other words buy it, support this and make the untalented developers think "Well, it seems like no one cares about Tolkiens lore, as long as we cater to 12 year olds and their habits we can make Eowyn a prostitute next game why not guys?" You fail to see your own consequences and someone has to teach you the wrongfully things you're doing and hopefully make you stop doing it. The reason for hostility is that they have gotten enough money already for making a third disrespectful lore breaking game. Good job.

Emanuel Stenberg Ohh grow up. As long as you take on this debate in such an uncivilized and hostile way, you aren't worth at all at listening to, no matter if you are right or wrong. I most likely know Tolkien's stories way better than you do. You are worthless talking to.

If you take this version to be true, more so than Tolkien’s. You are a fool. One must accept the reality that versions exist. If not Tolkien’s, then certainly it is a parallel story embellished. No other true purpose than to be retold. Re-sold. It is up to your interpretation as to what it is. Open your mind.

Was Gandalf a man? no, but he appeared like one.

Miguel Álvarez Gandalf is an angel of a an Archangel or Demigod. Shelob is a spawn of pure darkness. Differences is key to logic. You are lacking, educate yourself.

She only appears like this in the wraith world

Miguel Alvarez Every spider in the LOTR universe descends from Ungoliant so if Shelob can change forms then so could they

I have no idea either.

Arwen*

We are with you, brother!

Samwise: ... "and that's the story of how you were born goldilocks"

Alternate ending: Shelob tears Sam and Frodo apart then yeets the Ring to Mount Doom

@@johnhart8856 🤣

She didn't turn to human when she encounter Frodo or Samwise! Actually she had A GIGANTIC chance to do something funny with Samwise instead of fighting but this never happened

To be fair, shelob was the one who did the actual stabbing (oh, and samwise too I guess)

Not canon.

Gross

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 yes, we know. but now with the rings of power out, who can even say it's important ? these games did a wonderful job, considering.

@@siddbastard Rings of Power is garbage.

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 i'm saying lore is gonna be twisted around, might as well be good.

They're slaughtering lore so much it just now dont matter. I expect in next game (if they do it) that Sauron will return as Donald Duck.

Boohoo

This game stays faithful to the lore We ALL KNOW how this storyline is going to end

It's not lore-frendly game. I dont mean it's bad game, but from lore-perspective , it's crap.

Honestly, given that Ungoliant's children are half Eldritch Horror and half Spider/Maiar chimera this was the change to lore in the game that I found least jarring. It always seemed weird that Ungoliant's eldest daughter who came from a genius level mother and intelligent father would be a mindless monster. Now changing the fall of Minas Ithil by a couple of centuries? That's slaughtering the lore.

Also this is basically fanfiction. Creative liberties are always taken.

Wise words my friend

That was an actual sword.

@@Emper0rH0rde r/Woosh

Gilf Shelob* she already has grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc.

3:35 when same spider jumps on your face! 🤣🕷️

She is not really a demon, but I guess that would be the best description for a shadowy creature born in the shadows. I did not know they made her into a maia within the game. I just thought they just gave her more intelligence within the game.

Well, Sauron does call her his "pet", even though she doesn't really care not really know who he is.

thats all of them in this video

Hope there are more in the DLC!

According to Tolkien's son, he would have hated the movies as well.

This game is not canon, also that would make a lot of the story have zero sense.

You need therapy

Also no, they didn't give her substanțe just cuz they turned her into a woman to attract the boys. She was always a spider, and there was no need to change her

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 nerd