Hold our haary hobbit foots.

More like "Gandalf enters the chat"

It comes in pints?

Isn't he not get destroyed but just forever banished?

​@@markfranz7313 pretty much diminished to the point where he can never return.

Week.

Week

Poetic irony

That is the hypocrisy of elves. With all their self-righteousness, they are just as corruptible as men. Sometimes even easier.

Eltariel is triggered by this comment and will be reporting you to elf management

Yeah, after all her shit-talking about hunting those who bear the rings, she should have taken her blade and offed herself instead of getting a damn DLC. In my "head canon" she dies atop Barabur, since we don't see her again in the rest of the main game. I played her DLC once out of curiosity and hated it because I could never get past her pomposity-turned-pathetic weakness and her betrayal of Talion.

She is a Hypocrite

elves, unlike men, are bound by fate

@@legionarybooks13 she had zero will power

@@legionarybooks13 the only good part of that dlc is talion's eventual fall and the unique orcs. Eltariel is the worst part of her own DLC

He's not an elf... god damn it, he's a fucking Maia, in his fair form he was called "Annatar, lord of gifts".

@@jonathanperea953 No shit?, I was talking about Celebrimbor and Eltariel.

After reading the Silmarillion, I can't help from agreeing. Elves + Jewels = Disaster to everyone else

Yeah, the one (IMO) bad piece of writing is this scene with Celebrimbor and Eltariel. I can't remember where I saw it, but one of the devs admitted she was only inserted into the story to act as a catalyst for Celebrimbor's betrayal. I actually liked her character up to this point and didn't care that she was a stuck-up bitch (if you read the Silmarillion, you'll see that pretty much all the elves of the First and Second Age were). She served as a good antagonist to Celebrimbor and his rings, while being somewhat sympathetic to Talion's plight. It's doing a complete 180 out of nowhere and going against everything she stood for that ruins it. Instead of giving her a damn DLC, there should have been a cutscene where Galadriel gives her a sound thrashing for her stupidity! If anyone deserved a DLC besides Baranor (which I thought was excellent) it should have been Ratbag!

@@jonathanperea953 shame on you for trying to act smart shitlord

To defeat a monster he became one

I remember in SoM Bright Lord DLC it is said to him “...with it (The Ring) you could become something far worse (than Sauron)...”

@@AltFromTheLimbo that's a homage to Gandalf refusing the ring for the same reason.

i dont think sauron wanted to "bring back order"

@@leventeszaffenauer4142 yeah he’s like doctor horrible from doctor horrible’s sing along blog. He wants to bring about order by ruling with an iron fist. The world is a mess… and he just needs to rule it.

no one cares nerd....we just like slashing games.

@@bladerj yeah sure.....whatever helps you sleep at night

@@Bruh-ok1rq i know, i don't mind at all it's for the sake of making the game fun to play and fill some gaps in some things that the books didn't touch, it's a cool game and having it's own canon doesnt make it worst, i just like to point out the diference because why not?

@@JJTN2K Nah personally, I like it when people remember stuff like that, I always had a few pauses when I played and saw that form for Sauron

How does the (changes of Isildurs) story affect the gameplay?

Well said

Sacrifices

@@williamlongstaff6638 thanks for the tip

@@diavo_04 I was just kidding with you anyway, meant no offense :)

@@williamlongstaff6638 Oh Im not mad as long as people correct my grammar without getting all salty its fine by me 🤷‍♂️

exactly, i LOVED talions story, props to the writers for creating such an amazing story and game for us to play, thankfully its just a fan fic and not cannon lol.

Oh the writing on this game was so darn on point. This game is way underrated.

Wow, I've had this game in my library for a while but never played it. I never knew it was going to be so heavily narrative-driven!

@@RokkitGrrl definitely one of the best stories in games I have played. combat system is one of the coolest too, so def worth your time. Although it does suffer from the modern western RPG style of mapping and quests.

Compared to, “other” post Tolkien works, this game is a masterpiece.

The stupid developers should have done a different character instead Isildur. His body was never found, not even Sauron found it. I do hate of what they are doing to the game and the story. Instead Isildur turning into a Nazgûl, why wouldn't developers pick Êarnur, the last king line of Gondor? He entered Minas Morgul to challenge the Witch-King and he never return nor anyone saw him ever again.

Yeah, but it didn't make sense nor was it even close to lore accuracy. Doesn't matter what "Sauron would do"

But that's because they picked Isildur. He's an important character, the one who chopped the One Ring off Sauron's hand, and Sauron had a grudge against him. They did it for shock value. Also it works for the story since Isildur was a hero to Men. It's Celebrimbor's attempt to keep Isildur's enslavement that drives Talion off the edge.

@@nightdriver7216 Then they should have used Earnur, the Last King of Gondor who’s fate is actually unknown.

@@immortal_jairo88 I didn't mind them using Isildur to an extent, except the fact that he was dead and his soul would have already departed. Unlike Helm Hammerhand who (yes I know his story is nothing like the books) was still alive when Annatar / Sauron gave him a ring. I didn't even consider them using Earnur. He does get a couple mentions when Idril is describing some of the Gondorian artifacts. And I agree, the devs could have had a heyday with his story, which would have made more sense. I do get why they went with Isildur, because not everyone who plays the game has read the books, yet most have likely seen the films and will know who he was.

I’m starting to see it as a prequel to the Peter Jackson movies and therefore doesn’t need to be lore accurate!

Respects the source material?

@@dartagnanjames8069 respects the writings of Tolkien

@@darthlegolas9155 How? Where?

It doesn’t disrespect his writings it keeps true to middle earth lore even though it’s not specifically written by Tolkien

Though not accurate from Tolkien's writings, it felt good to have Talion release Isildur - having to endure the things you mentioned and finally be free. Talion being free included.

It was actually Isildur’s father who defeated Sauron, but he died in the battle and Isildur took the ring.

@@omaraftab7131 That would be if we are going with the actual lore of the story. Yes you would be correct. But im going off the lore and story of this game.

What game is this? Is this shadow of Mordor? Or the sequel game?

@@ckyjackasscorleone8937 sequel

Yes a little too much when it comes to Isildur. Sauron would’ve been a shell of himself at the time of Isildur’s death and not had the power they shown.

It’s canon, the shadow of Mordor games are all canon

@@beergoggleprophet No they’re not lol they’re not canon at all.

@@nicoblac9368 how did he really die

@@kanyenorth2605 You mean Celebrimbor?

true but,to be fair, you could film some nerds roleplaying with a cellphone and it would be better than that

This is the worst take ever, these games are a complete circus which bastardises everything Tolkien ever stated. ROP does not even hold a candle to the level of abhorrent shit this game did.

honestly i really like the changes for the games own story. the movies changed somuch so i really dont care about the changes for a game but we didnt see sauron yet eminem is a female actor.

@@zakzerak7191 it is not confirmed yet that Eminem-like priestess is Sauron embodiment. Alas, the chances are great. I personally hope it will be the Meteor Man.

Eminem isn't Sauron. Trust me. But it is Cliché af, in the show.

That's.....not Sauron

Yeah but that's a incredibly low bar my dude.

get good sleep dude

Ah sleep & the Sun= gamers nemesis!

Shadow of Middle-earth? Yeah you need sleep

@@CB-gb4ep Thats shit was probably years ago, and he still call it that way. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 lack of sleep f*ck your brain hard.

This would not work in Tolkien’s mythology. Even the highest of mortal men could not bind it.

@@RockOnBrotha89 I actually referred to Sauron immobilizing Isildur and killing him.

Sauron was trying to burn Isildir to ash (as a Maiar spirit he can do that) and it was arrogance that caused him to use his ring hand.

@@robfbms As I remember, in the books Sauron was "beaten" in combat by the elven (gil galad) and human (Elendil) kings (both died aswell) and was exhausted and wounded on the floor when Isildur cut the ring from his finger. The movie / game adaptionws are a little weird on this take, but it´s for the sake for making Sauron look more menacing I guess.

Likely he wanted to grab him and crush him, or was about to blast him With a magic attack , either way he didn’t expect a defeated Isildur to counter the way he did with a broken sword, he underestimated him which was how he lost his Ring

Honestly...with the way they mistreat the lore here, you might as well just call him "Elf Sauron".

@@jrob4795 No fucking excuse for fans, get your mythology right, noobs.

@@jonathanperea953 Elf sauran for life.

To be fair, does it mention that name in this game?

@@jonathanperea953 Elf Sauron owns you.

That is not a high bar to clear. About the height of an average dog turd

So I guess Frodo did as well?

Tolkien lived in a fairy tale then, nothing is objectively good or objectively evil, it's only the matter of perspective.

@@z54964380 no there literally isn't. Tolkien firmly held a Catholic belief of objective good and objective evil. YOU may believe that its a matter if perspective, but Tolkien did not. This is backed up in his letters, his theological views and those who knew him. There are even entire books by Tolkien scholars on the theological and philosophical views of Tolkien in his work

@@finyoung1261 No, Frodo was corrupted by the ring. He did not chiose nor ever desired to wield it as a weapon againsg the enemy. As Tolkien himself explained in a letter, Frodo got as far as he could resisting the ring's evil before it got the better of him to finally put it on which ended in what he called a eucatastophe. That's not the same thing as willing to choosing to use it for the purpose of wielding it against the enemy. Ie using evil foe the intent to fight evil. That point is made even more clear by Faramir opposed to Boromir or Denethor

@@crimsonthumos3905 I never disputed that Tolkien didn’t believe in objective good and evil my guy, I was merely pointing out the naïveté of his belief.

So true... T_T. At lest here the elves look like elves, not like pointy eared humans...

Lmfao rings of power hurt you like a cheating ex girlfriend did hahaha it’s like you’re ex is getting fucked by a dude with a bigger dick. Because all y’all do is complain about a show that millions of people are enjoying. Y’all some fucking CUCKS hahahahahaha cry some more about how the elves don’t drink water like they do in books or whatever useless shit you guys bitch and moan about LMFAO

@@pepita2437 i have trauma from looking at dirt and shit stained black elves in rings of power

The closest I went to true lord of the rings was a mod for minecraft

Shen Dude, i just hooked my PS2 & got it running in HD thanks to 108Op w/ component ports & PS2 HD psyclone component cables. PLEASE BREAKDOWN WHY ROTK IS AWESOME & WORTH PLAYING?

the writers took incredible liberties in making the lore of these games, but I think I like the addition of world building, tolkien never really talk about rhûn or the east of middle earth much, thus, I like it.

Indeed.

If only the RoP writing is as good as this fan fiction. At least make the main character as likable as Talion goddamn it. Celebrimbor in this game is a beast just like his lore character compared to RoP weird "mix alloy lmao, never thought of that".

Yeah it's the exact opposite of rings of power, it respected the lore.

@@mokeish Respected the what?

You're not a human commenter, you're an AI along with the rest of the comments in this video lol

This is America

@@dmitriykinzhebulatov More like England

cause he had no body there already, he was an energy being anchored to material reality by the ring

@@wilhelmu sounds deep, Helms Deep

The Ring is a evil, powerful object that has a will of its own. When it has sapped its wielder of his/her decency, goodness, and self-awareness, when it has served its true master, Sauran, in whatever what the current wearer/vessel can, it abandons him/her by changing size, or by luring the object of his/her death. There is no fooling The Ring. Lavender Jack...Swooping On Down.

@@LavenderJack540 I miss the part "luring the object of his demise" now I get it, thanks!

@@lenkaasia3476 legit if the ring can’t get off your finger it can literally shoot off evil gps which will draw beings of Sauron’s servitude towards you by chance or even outright alert Nazgûl to your exact current location for as long as you wear it. XD the one ring is really good at making sure you never sleep peacefully

@@Ryanfinder226 While it doesn't exactly pinpoint your location with 100% accuracy, it does point the Nazguls to your general area, within the KM square or so, if I read it right in the books.

@@LavenderJack540 it doesn't have a will of its own, it literaly is the majority of saurons own lifeforce within it, thats why he is so weak without it and why he took so long to reform after being defeated, its more sauron than sauron is.

Who cares? The films are not canon too. The game is basically a extension of the films, that are non canon by nature.

No he doesn’t, all he knows is that it fell into a river, which is what the orc that attacked him would’ve known anyway.The currents could’ve taken the ring anywhere along its long stretch, and mordor hasn’t invented scuba diving equipment either.

Can't bring back a corpse man. Not even a minor angel like Sauron could do that. Only Eru Illuvatar possessed such knowledge of what happened to a man's soul.

@@sohflipz4439 _Not even a minor angel like Sauron could do that_ Certainly. But the guys behind the game weren't stopped by that :)

Same voice actor when he's in his Elven fair form

He sounded like galadriel for a second to be honest

Like a woman scorned

I enjoyed that to

I wonder if they got the idea from the Harvard Lampoon's "Bored of the Rings"

my peepee came out

I'm not interested in buying that at all, and I'm a huge lotr fan

It got cancelled, for obvious reasons

@@spacequack5470 It was not

Yes it might be more elf like in my opinion

The ring was lost in the river, likely Orc patrols search for it when they fished out Isuildur’s corpse It was found by chance but Smealgol and his friend Deagol years later when they went fishing

i pity you for being one of the reasons why we get shit like this

Not really lore bonus ... Because it ain't part of the lore. Besides she was more of a plot tool

@@joaopedromarquesini1792 The plot here is better than Tolkien.

@@saptakmukherjee7615 no it's not

@@saptakmukherjee7615 thats rookie trolling you gotta step it up.

Dude was a certifiable badass. It's why in the books Aragorn is proud of his ancestor not ashamed of his blood. I get why the movies boiled it down though, I'm just assuming these games bias towards the movie plotlines more than anything.

It was a mistake with good intentions. He planned to try and use the Ring for good and when he realized that was impossible he planned to give the ring to Elrond only to die on the road to Rivendell.

That won't salvage this mockery

Tolkien would be rolling in his grave from Shadows of War, it's bad fanfiction at best.

No in fact, from an objective viewpoint its equally bad. But to you it is not, which is fine.

This scene is from Shadow of war ( the sequel to Shadow of Mordor ) so it's not part of the first game or it's extensions.