Great video as always. I also applaud Zapperbox for their dedication to the unit despite the huge hoops they have to go through with DRM.

You can bet the broadcasters will NEVER allow these boxes to work on encrypted channels without connecting to the internet periodically. It may be once a day, once every few days, once a week, or whatever. But they will NEVER give up the requirement for these boxes to "check in" to the mother ship in order to continue receive encrypted broadcasts. We need to continue the efforts to prevent any ENCRYPTION on the PUBLIC AIRWAVES. If broadcasters want to encrypt their content when delivering through another medium (such as the internet), fine. But no broadcaster should be allowed to transmit encrypted programming on the PUBLIC AIRWAVES. That's why they are called the PUBLIC AIRWAVES. That's why you need a license from the FCC to transmit on them.

DRM decryption without an internet connection is on the roadmap; and Zapperbox has delivered on all of its promises thus far.

I hope to see more of these updates on the ZapperBox competition too!

LONBALL: these product should be the same free level as the previous television standards. It’s clown stuff.

We are really going backwards with ASTC 3.0.

Love the detail and frequency of updates on this topic Lon!

Man remember during NTSC Analog days where when I switched a channel it just switched to the channel with no long delay. Changing channels ever since we switched to Digital has gotten so much slower now. By the time I switch to like 5 channels on digital I would have already flipped through 15 channels on analog. Now it seems like ATSC 3.0 is even freaking slower taking so long to change channels.

A thorough, honest, and well articulated review. Whether or not consumers will purchase this unit at the current price remains to be seen. Nevertheless, an impressive unit worth considering, especially for techies.

Good review Lon. As you state, it is improving. It seems that hdhomerun is still more stable but the atsc 3.0 recording is nice. The multi room device sounds very promising

I really hope the encryption gets outlawed. I really want to be able to tune into my local channels on my phone with bad weather. The people I live with can sleep through it but I almost never do...

I've got high hopes for this box looking like a solid TiVo replacement and we need one. My Roamio is getting long in the tooth and TiVo has left the OTA market.

the zapperbox has never been abel to start a recording in the series tab ...that tab only shows the series you programed to watch ..im 100% happy with my m-1 dual tuner ..the zapperbox folks are working hard to deliver what they promised from day one ..i am looking forward to next round of updates :)

Encryption slows down switching between channels. Internet connection problems causes no TV unnecessarily and makes this cumbersome, like in a car which one needs to use a mobile hot spot, for example. One reason would be advertising targeting. Does the Internet requirement block (Or will some day block) reception of channels in adjacent TV markets (Like a region lock)? In addition to my local market, I can receive channels from 3 other TV markets in addition to my local market. I haven't seen discussions about this or maybe I missed it?

Gt Media usb next gen receiver has filed a license for DRM encryption according to ther Facebook page.

I have 2 questions in regard to this product. 1 Can you 'clone' a USB or micro sd card with the recordings? 2 Is a USB or card tied to a specific zapper box so if your unit dies,you can use the recordings on a new zapperbox unit?

Looking for a four tuner a t s c 3.0 dvr

DRM is such a bummer. I keep my primary TV on an ergotron AV cart. It's incredibly inconvenient to have my tuner box connected to the TV, since I move it around constantly. Network tuner options were not simply for pirates and Locast-type services.

I have watched multiple YT reviews of Zapperbox and I have two questions that have not been answered by any video: I am still recording (since 2007) with Windows Media Center on aging equipment (~7 computers, ~20 tuners, ATSC 1.0). I live in a rural area that will have ATSC 3.0 last. My rural location has fickle weather patterns, so I must record multiple instances of the same program via different computers/tuners/antennas, then cross my fingers and hope at least one recording is perfect. If not, I can quickly edit (VideoRedo) from multiple recordings into a single good copy. So my primary question is: can Zapperbox recordings (ATSC 1.0 non-DRM) be moved/copied/edited//etc.? Can I access the videos (if on a network HDD) with a computer and edit/copy/view with other software such as VideoRedo or VLC? I usually quickly remove the commercials (3 minutes of editing a 1 hour show will cut out 20 minutes of commercials, so that I can binge watch a series without having to always be holding a remote to skip commercials). My next question about Zapperbox: does the Library of recordings also include the program episode details? Hey, I am paying $29 per year to have that (rolling) two weeks of program data, I would hope the data is also then contained with the recording (my favorite feature of Windows ".dvr-ms" format, I can still view/search/sort ALL the program description info even in Windows Explorer. BTW, for anyone wondering why there is a $29/yr program data subscription (which I have been happily using for years [e.g. Zap-2-It]) is that the (2 weeks in advance) data is copyright information and Zapperbox and WMC (and all others) cannot freely incorporate it (however they can incorporate the over the air program data, but that is not 2 weeks worth and has to sucked out of each broadcast channel signal). I am interested in modernizing my hardware, but if I cannot edit ATSC 1.0 non-DRM shows nor have the program data embedded in the recording metadata, then I guess I will stick with (and upgrade) Windows Media Center which allows 4 USB tuners (or more?) per computer and still works with my $29/yr program data subscription.

I wonder what will occur if I wait months to view a DRM recording... Like waiting for a season to complete and then binge. Some boxes only need the internet to set up, What if I want to watch a DRM'd show or recording with NO INTERNET. I typed too soon, I just heard/read about the future no internet required.

If you are forced to put it on the LAN, do they at least have a Roku app so all my TV's can reach the tuner?

Thank you very much for the video! Question. What happens if you have an internet outage during a recording, or if you have an outage and want to watch something already recorded would it be possible?

I am posting messages to Zapperbox regarding receiving constant buffering problems. These are not occurring occasionally it is consistent. Their video shows to turn off the pause buffer, Search/Settings/Storage/Microsd _card/Pause_Buffer: off, and I checked and mine was already off. I listened to the antenna man videos and I cannot see anything I can do to fix this problem, does anyone else having this same problem?

You mentioned you cannot do 3 things simultaneously. I assume you should be able to watch a finished recording while it is recording 2 new shows.

Wish it showed thumbmails during FF/RW. (Like a TiVo :) ) Thanks!

Every time you do one of these update videos on DRM, you should submit it to the FCC and your representatives.

Where i live i have no internet other than my cell phone because i live in the country like many other people,so we can't update to this new stuff.

It would be nice if you could access your recorded shows remotely on the road via Firestick.

hows the atsc 3.0 signals at my end had no content avaiable at this time... dose yoyr atsc 3.0 come go while testing are you able to recieve WHCT 18 that supports metv heros icon like to see how zapper box handles those networks in recording

I think I'm going to wait until it can stream content (live or recorded) to my small screens.

Did they learn nothing from the switch to digital and they had a blackout and no one could watch the weather alerts because the converter boxes needed power.

I will never buy anything that legitimizes OTA encryption.

Hi Lon, great explanation of the Zapper box. I have a 2-tuner unit, but have not updated SW in a few days, so decryption isn’t working yet on my box. One question, NBC has announced that they are providing a new ATSC3 feature on the WNBC O&O from NYC. I can receive both WNBC and WVIT in Stratford. The new feature is called replay-TV, where if you tune in mid-program, the ATSC3 signal will support you re-starting the program from the beginning. I’m not certain what ATSC3 hardware you need to support this. Sinclair and Pearl consortium are touting this too. Have you heard anything about this? It was announced at the NAB Show last week.

According to antenna man he thinks because of DRM encryption 3.0 is dead in the water.what do you think?

'gateway'? it was called taking the tape from one VCR to another in previous years.. now its taking the usb stick out of the dvr and putting it in my linux box... ...i really hate atsc3...

At some point they just don’t want people using antennas unless they can turn it into a subscription. Above and beyond what any user would realistically put up with. Why bother if it means having these dedicated, locked down boxes connected to internet? Off topic, you need to put out a service announcement out to download Delta on iPhones and iPads. I’m sure Nintendo is working hard to have it booted.

2024 april playback question as you watch recording s dose it stay on the file your watching ?? movie or series ... or like mediadonic as you playback skips over to next file... please verify this for me

no update multiroom ??? 2024 July are you still recieving 62 channels ??

You need internet to play a locally recorded ATSC 3 program? unacceptable Glad they are trying to fix that!

no future update multiroom ...dvr lets see an update please

So now the FCC will need granny to have an internet connection to watch her stories.

ZapperBox box is great in CT all atsc3 come in. Plus all other channels. I love it and turned off hdhomerun.

Can I watch channels that are broadcasting in 4k?

Boycott OTA DRM encrypted ATSC 3.0 NEXTGEN-TV because it is DRM dead. Long live ATSC 1.0 with true no restrictions OTA TV recordlings and no internet needed.

Ridiculous that you will not be able to watch OTA stations without internet. Imagine that there is a internet outage, you SOL on watching TV.

I would rather not have 3.0 at all and just stick with 1. This whole thing is a disaster and not good for the public at all. But we knew it was all a setup in the first place.

$30/yr? Guess I will wait for Tablo's ATSC 3 box

Torrents for life

Does SiliconDust realize that they are falling very far behind the competition? They don’t even have DRM encryption solved yet alone recording an encrypted channel. May be they aren’t the smartest people in the room like they thought they were.

If you watch closely you can find a Nextgen equipped TV (with channel listings) for under $400. $250 for just the tuner section plus an annual fee for the channel listing is a bit much. I'm disappointed you didn't agree and say so.

I am in Canada and am darn glad I axed cable 4 yrs ago I only watch 30 mins via OTA for local news a day (if I do not fall asleep watching it & horrendous amt of commercials). No doubt the broadcasters will squash these devices. They have deeper pockets and can afford the lawyers and greasing of politicians palms. Hope spinrgs eternal though.

My Spectrum internet has been so awful for the last 8+ months with 3 or 4 10-15 minute or so outages a day that I don't consider any TV solution that requires internet in any form to be a viable solution for me. I hope ATSC 3.0 dies the death it deserves (although I'm sure it won't) and that ATSC 1.0 keeps going on for a long time so I can continue with the various OTA TiVOs I have been very happily using for the last 20+ years.

I abandoned the public broadcasters in 2023. Any series that we want to watch we can get on Hulu the next day. As consumers, our power over them is with our money. Don't pay to subscribe to what should be public, over the air, channels.

As soon as I need a box with encryption I will take down my antenna.

Hooked my new Zapperbox M1 up a little while ago. Not impressed at all. Gets fewer channels than the ATSC 1 tuner in the 7 year old LG 4K tv (not an OLED) it's connected to picks up. Picture quality is horrible. Returning for a refund. IMO do not buy one.

too much $$$$

300$ after taxes plus 30$ for a channel guide.this thing won't be around long with much cheaper receivers comming to the market.

in order to use this box, you need the Internet only to download an authorization key. To me this would harm people who may live in world communities who may not have high-speed Internet. Do you remember back in the days, using dial up? Many parts of the country, still have that, because it is a low-cost option and some people, that is all they can afford. I am wondering if this device has a screen reader, built-in? To comply with the 21st-century telecommunication act, all boxes must have some type of screen reader built-in for people who are blind in low vision. as a blind person, we have been pushing for that change for 30 years. It finally happened, and we want to make sure that all devices are compliant. 9:00 9:00

My Tivo from 2016 has more functionality. This thing is a total joke for its price. The EU versions using their standard are $30-$40. Hope ATSC 3.0 dies, and the US joins the EU standard.

Atsc 3.0 with drm has turned free over the air channels into lame subscription fees. First we need a zapper box and now pay a subscription fee just to record stuff. I have dish network and I don't how atsc 3.0 will affect dish network. At this point, might as well use free apps that offers free over the air channels that bypasses the encryption. What's next, pay monthly subscription fees on top of paying for licensing fees for every stream service for all music, movies and video games but done in an ala carte format that applies to streaming instead of food. Streaming services are gonna get to the point that they become ala carte along with monthly subscription fees along with licensing fees since most places are already removing physical media. Now we have to rely heavily on expensive and unreliable stream services while they are taking away content that is part of the force arbitration. Roku has already filed a patent back in august of 2023 with any hdmi connected devices and show nothing but ads and now atsc 3.0 has ruined free over the air channels with requiring the internet just to view content and show more ads. Luckily there is a modded version of youtube to bypass the ads and bypass the sponsors in the videos. Now there needs to be a way to bypass the atsc 3.0 drm and remove the encryption without paying for a zapper box and without paying for any subscription fees with no ads similar to the modded versions of youtube but have it apply to over the air channels. I miss the days when we could record stuff on tv with vhs tapes and I wish it was like that with atsc 3.0 with free over the air channels instead of having drm and encrypted channels. I miss the analog era since stuff could be recorded without drm and no encryption at all. For example, record music from the radio with cassette tapes and press record with rewind and fast forward. Basically implement the recording features from the analog era and implement them in the digital era. I miss the era when things were literally just plug and play without needing to create any accounts, no need to keep track of having multiple accounts so the accounts don't automatically get charged when losing track of having multiple accounts in case when canceling accounts that are no longer being used, no internet connection, no subscription services, no drm and no encryption. The 90s era and the earlier eras were much simpler times but the newer era makes things more complicated while the consumers have less options and less control when they paid for stuff and actually owning stuff that was already paid for one time instead of continuing paying for stuff like how it is now. It sucks that we are living more in the modern era of not owning anything and force to be happy about it since the majority of consumers don't care about ownership and rather keep on buying stuff without owning anything. I currently use the dish network anywhere app to watch live tv when using mobile data when I'm away from home. I don't know how atsc 3.0 will affect dish network anywhere app.

This is all just marketing noise. DRM on public airwaves is unacceptable.

$30/yr for recording with 2 boxes so it's only $15 per box per year then. Yeah, to be fair here, it's well closed to $1 a month if you're generous enough, so to speak. On the other hand, should it really be a consumer burden to pay the Google Widevine DRM annual fee to protect the copyright of broadcasters? Why can't they just pay the DRM leasing with their own money? Is this FCC decision to push the burden to consumer really legal? Bring this to SCOTUS, will ya?