Zastava M84: The World's Best LMG?

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2 ай бұрын

Why does James love the Zastava M84 LMG? Dive deep into the heart of Serbia's legendary Zastava factory with‪@JamesReeves‬. In this exclusive feature, join us for a historical journey and behind-the-scenes access where we uncover the secrets of the M84's design, inspired by the iconic Soviet PKM but perfected by Serbian ingenuity. Watch firsthand accounts from the factory floor to the range, including expert insights from Serbia's top gun influencer and war veterans who've wielded this "Heavy Metal Horcrux" in battle. Discover why the M84 is more than just a machine - it's a piece of history, a cultural icon that is somehow related to the famed Serbian singer Ceca (we'll explain), and a testament to the enduring spirit of Eastern European engineering. Don't miss out as we test this marvel of military technology, revealing why it's not just a tool, but a masterpiece of craftsmanship. Join us on TFBTV for an unforgettable exploration of power, precision, and Serbian pride.
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@DumDum_channel 2 ай бұрын

Thanks James!! Awesome video! I enjoyed your company! See you soon!

@spoonerman 2 ай бұрын

I thought I recognised you early in the video when they didn't say your channel name. I like your videos on serbian weapons :)

@TC-bq3ve 2 ай бұрын

It looks like both of you should also thank this guy Ranco for making it possible.

@metaloxide 2 ай бұрын

I can't speak or understand Serbian but I love DumDum

@damjanpopadic4717 2 ай бұрын

Што ниси мало пљувао сад Заставу? Свима ваља, јер НАМЕРНО има најбољи однос ЦЕНА-КВАЛИТЕТ, само Дарку не ваља ...

@Truth-Istina 2 ай бұрын

Better that you don't understand, everything you need to see in the video... His story is pretty boring@@metaloxide

@darthmartinez 2 ай бұрын

The only reason 7.62x54 Rimmed still exists today is probably because of how awesome the PKM is. That rimmed cartridge is never going away.

@Verdha603 2 ай бұрын

Reason two is that the Dragunov is a DMR that just refuses to die, even if it’s gotten long in the tooth by today’s standards.

@454FatJack 2 ай бұрын

1891 Imperial Empire😂

@quan3142 2 ай бұрын

rimmed for the extractors pleasure

@scottrobinson3281 2 ай бұрын

If it works perfectly, why change it?

@jmarvosa6x3 2 ай бұрын

Rah Rah!

@Markuzpro 2 ай бұрын

"My Adidas Tracksuit added +10 to Serbian fire arm proficiency " Soo true brother 😂😂

@breckfreeride 2 ай бұрын

But can you squat!

@andrejm77 Ай бұрын

@breckfreeride Nope, thats not a thing here in Serbia.. its exclusive to our northern and eastern Slavic brothers 😂

@breckfreeride Ай бұрын

@@andrejm77 great clarification!

@interpoor1436 Ай бұрын

To je Yugoslvija kupila od SSSR-a i doradila postavili regulator brzine paljbe na početku gasne komore se nalazi 1, 2, 3

@TheKlamminator 2 ай бұрын

All my homies love zastava

@dalibormiletic75miletic65 2 ай бұрын

Pozdrav iz srbije .radim u fabrici gde se proizvodi m84

@sheepherder911 2 ай бұрын

@dalibormiletic75miletic65 that's cool. You're living the Serbian Dream!

@dalibormiletic75miletic65 2 ай бұрын

@@sheepherder911 da zivim u srbiji ...i radim u fabrici oruzija ...

@StefanBlagojevic 2 ай бұрын

@@dalibormiletic75miletic65 Само љуби те брат, пиши име државе/народа великим словом леба ти. Свако добро!

@gunztommiegunz 2 ай бұрын

@@dalibormiletic75miletic65shit yes! I love my zastava M70!!! AKs are awesome I can understand why the M84 is so loved

@762x69 2 ай бұрын

Seriously, does life get any better than having access to fun stuff like this??

@davewebster5120 2 ай бұрын

I remember when I was a kid. The only place I could find footage of full auto firing was the early H&K site. Now we have years worth of top notch gun love thanks to youtube. The future is kind of a shitty place but it's got its perks.

@G.W-01 2 ай бұрын

Most of us should have access to this.

@sternonisoil 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, but it's just as rare to find those situations

@snakemarcopercocet4413 2 ай бұрын

I live in Washington I don’t have access to any of this stuff 😂 I can can’t have more than 10 rounds in my Glock 48

@coconutshrimp707 2 ай бұрын

Let’s enjoy it while it lasts brother

@UNPROFOR1994 2 ай бұрын

As an UNPROFOR veteran I have had significant experience with most of the Zastava products during the late 1900s. When "Ceca" started singing, we hit the ground! 😂

@detrihitj1464 2 ай бұрын

When Ceca sing's everyone is quiet...

@peka003 Ай бұрын

glad you are still around bro

@994981423416 Ай бұрын

You surely know that during the Bosnian war, the Muslims called the M84 "the sower of death" or just "the sower". That nickname says it all about this MG.

@thatonescrambler 2 ай бұрын

Im a simple man, when i see zastava, i immediately love it

@bastingskydiver1350 2 ай бұрын

As a serbian living in america im happy to see you experience the glory of Ceca

@101mb6 2 ай бұрын

@@cptmario ???

@vladimirtrifunovic9367 2 ай бұрын

Nick name for 84...

@ChatNick Ай бұрын

I'm proud, to.. but only on Zastava products not on name of mobsters singin' whore

@ianray8823 2 ай бұрын

That disclaimer was very professional and well written because I feel like we want it to say "DON'T BE SCARED BY A GOOD TIME YA BISH WE'RE NOT EVEN SHOOTING LIVING THINGS C'MON NOW"

@tfbtv 2 ай бұрын

Full auto fire is now against Google terms for ad revenue from videos.

@mbelow 2 ай бұрын

@@tfbtv KZfaq has gone to shit.

@gunztommiegunz 2 ай бұрын

@@tfbtvunbelievable KZfaq sure does blow at advocating for freedom in fact there’s nothing illegal about automatic firearms other than unconstitutional law

@milankavric6782 2 ай бұрын

Ovo treba

@EricDaMAJ 2 ай бұрын

The last time I was this early machine guns were water cooled.

@LFDNC 2 ай бұрын

The last time I was this early, *I* was water cooled. Now I need some time in the AC.

@bintjbeil7892 2 ай бұрын

What's good my Vickers

@destroyerarmor2846 2 ай бұрын

I remember having a horse towed chariot Gatling gun

@LFDNC 2 ай бұрын

@@destroyerarmor2846 did it fire crossbow bolts though? My grandfather had to tow his chariot and Gatling gun himself! Uphill! Both ways!

@muddyhotdog4103 2 ай бұрын

Good one

@oskar6661 2 ай бұрын

While it's easy in the U.S. to think about ultra-modern LMGs in new fancy calibers with wiz-bang optics and stuff...the reality is that for 94% of the world...a modernized PKM is absolutely the best GPMG in existence, by a long margin. Lightweight, insanely reliable, available in the two major calibers a nation is likely to have (7.62x51 NATO and 7.62x54R), a proven track record, ease of maintenance and parts/servicing, etc. It also likely costs about 10% of what an ultra-modern SIG MG would cost them, while shooting cheaper/available ammo, etc.

@commenter648 2 ай бұрын

the sig has better ammunition for long range fights

@AlexMilenk 2 ай бұрын

@@commenter648 5-10 PKM's are still beter for long range fights than SIG.

@commenter648 2 ай бұрын

@@AlexMilenk if they can't reach the distance then no

@andydufresne9593 Ай бұрын

@@commenter648 1 kilometer of range is more than enough for GPMG. How often do you think an average solider will have a chance of seeing and engaging a target 1 km away?

@commenter648 Ай бұрын

@@andydufresne9593 max effective range of the pkm is 800m iirc

@MrBlonde47 2 ай бұрын

James, Yugoslavia was never apart of the 1955 Warsaw Pact as they fell out of Soviet favor in 1948. The reason they had a license to copy the PKM is because the license belonged to Izhmash. The Soviets had no say in who had copies of their weapons.

@user-ci5ey7lh2l 2 ай бұрын

Every factory in Soviet Union was owned by government, and managed by different ministry. Izhmash was managed by ministry of defence. Any license agreement was approved not only ministry of defence but also commi party leaders.

@MrBlonde47 2 ай бұрын

@@user-ci5ey7lh2l doesn’t change the fact that the license wasn’t given for Warsaw Pact reasons, but rather strictly monetary as the USSR and Yugoslavia didn’t have a relationship during that time.

@ZavodnikSFRJ 2 ай бұрын

Yugoslavia did get back to being good with Soviets again, and as you can hear in the video guy said they bought the PKT license from Soviets.

@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 2 ай бұрын

@@ZavodnikSFRJthey were never very good with the soviets.. They were always on a middle line.. They filled the gape between nato and the us on one side and the full blown commie states on the other.. India, iraq, lybia, indonesia ect these countries were part of nonalignment pact headed by yugoslavia, because of this yugoslavia delt with both the us and the ussr

@cinoeye 2 ай бұрын

Yugoslavia got licenses from both east and west. Not just weapons but system such as helicopters from France, Radars from US, UK, Sweden…

@milangorenjak 2 ай бұрын

Ima "šala" u vojsci Srbije, da vojnik koji je obučavan za upotrebu PM (puško mitraljez - machine gun) M-84, kad ga posle pitaju šta je bio, radio u vojsci, da kaže "širio Ceci noge"! 😁😉 Šala se odnosi na pomoćne nogare radi stabilizacije i samog nadimka PM/MG! There is a "joke" in the Serbian army, that a soldier who was trained to use the PM (puško mitraljez/machine gun) M-84, when someone asked him later what he was, worked in the army, to say "spread Ceca's legs"! 😁😉 The joke refers to the auxiliary legs for stabilization and the nickname PM/MG itself!

@detrihitj1464 2 ай бұрын

Kad ceca peca svi zacute...to si zaboravio

@jovovukovic520 2 ай бұрын

Gluposti,u vojsci se Ceca nikada nije zvao niti su ga vojnici zvali. Taj naziv je dobio u Bosni tokom rata. Ni si ti vojske gledao a ni taj koji ti pričao...

@milangorenjak 2 ай бұрын

@@jovovukovic520 Nažalost, u svetu je, a posebno u Srbiji, erupcija pametnjakovića poput tebe! Evo, prosvetli nas, dodirni nas presveti čoveče!

@Rale117 2 ай бұрын

@@jovovukovic520Цеца је био надимак. Немаш ти појма шта причаш.

@jovovukovic520 2 ай бұрын

@@Rale117 u vojsci SRJ i SRB nije a na ratistu u bosni jeste bio nadimak.

@Evopandawithalumpia 2 ай бұрын

Never have I been more compelled to email a person in my life. Let’s get this thing stateside.

@KristianHerdi 2 ай бұрын

Nobody sings like "Ceca" does! Ceca ended the love affair between Serbians and the MG42 (or the Yugo version of it the M53 - Šarac) and the 8 mm Mauser!

@ChatNick 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@tarekmalaeb8229 2 ай бұрын

True

@TheColosiss 2 ай бұрын

Own of my 4-H leaders is a Vietnam Marine Vet. He has a picture on his bedroom wall of his friends all holding odd gear. He was holding a heavily modified PK series. He has some links below the picture. It was his personal favorite and they had a nearly limitless supply of ammunition for it when they found a few caches. It never failed him. He is still bummed to this day that he couldn't bring it home.

@GBGuns 2 ай бұрын

I could smell the show room from this video. It looks completely unchanged from my visit to them in 2015

@realitycheck4158 2 ай бұрын

I carried one of these, even did cqb, lighter than a saw! Glorious PKM!🔥

@Paulie705 2 ай бұрын

Love the Zastava content. Hvala vam, James! 🇷🇸

@950rpm 2 ай бұрын

alright, so now we need a t shirt with a still image of reeves in the track suit, cigarette, sunglasses, m84 from the hip, and "belt fetish" please for the love of god make it happen

@XenonLover52 2 ай бұрын

With the disclaimer on the back

@schulzbrianr 2 ай бұрын

Belt fed-ish

@SirDopeBoy 2 ай бұрын

10:57 🫶🏼 we love it

@zeljkodejanovic8786 2 ай бұрын

I am a Serb and a veteran of the last war in Croatia and Bosnia, and I agree about the quality and reliability of the M84 "Ceca". But now it's a bit out of date, because more mobile weapons are being sought today, and if I were a technologist at Zastava Arms, I would reduce the dimensions of the weapon and make a similar machine gun, but in 7.62x39 caliber, because more ammunition could be carried and a soldier could carry it of smaller growth.

@grimmig13 Ай бұрын

That would be called an RPD. But you had RPKs already (M72), were those not good enough?

@zeljkodejanovic8786 Ай бұрын

@@grimmig13 I never liked the M72, it was just a lengthened AK with a longer and thicker barrel. PKM (M84 ceca) has rapid fire. I would go there to shorten the barrel and make something like the FN MINIMI, but an even shorter barrel by about 80-100mm

@konstantin231 Ай бұрын

@@zeljkodejanovic8786 this man gets it. One thing tho, barrel length in MG's isnt just about accuracy or transportation/handling, you need all that metal to absorb heat. Bigger/thicker barrel the better with these mg's. However, a 556 ultra compact polymer MG would absolutely be amazing. Take some ques from AA's chassis system and build an mg around that.

@zeljkodejanovic8786 Ай бұрын

@@konstantin231 The 5.56 does not have the stopping power of the 7.62

@ogimati5175 2 ай бұрын

Had it as coaxial machine gun next to my 20mm cannon..back in '90s wars.. 2000 rounds in 4 boxes for it.. I can just say it's amazing gun. Never failed me. I love it.

@MrBahjatt 2 ай бұрын

The PKM is probably the best light GPMG. The M60 is a bit big and heavy, and the FN-MAG 58 even moreso, but the PKM is an upsized AK and is more portable to carry and move around but delivering the same firepower.

@gagemason3865 2 ай бұрын

Did ya’ll catch the “if we get many requests for semiauto version of M84 we will make them”?

@TheTGRproductions 2 ай бұрын

Yes please! Shut up and take my money!

@connorburnes7697 2 ай бұрын

Take all my money!!!!

@bilicool7834 Ай бұрын

Hi James, awesome video. I was a member The Guard, JNA elite unit and M84 operator during the 90’s. Can confirm everything in this video. Greetings from Serbia.

@MenAreSpeaking 2 ай бұрын

I hope your ESL guests realize how much we appreciate their speaking English. He's easier to understand than my tenants in Baltimore!

@Token_Black_Guy 2 ай бұрын

I'm guessing your tenants are basketball americans?

@nickkennedy9034 2 ай бұрын

learn AAVE then, it's an internationally recognized dialect of English

@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@nickkennedy9034Baltimore black English isn’t AAVE It’s it’s own thing

@nickkennedy9034 2 ай бұрын

@@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 could you cite your sources with that claim

@appidydafoo 2 ай бұрын

Your delivery is phenomenal and the writing is equally impressive. Perfect blend of information and entertainment.

@tfbtv 2 ай бұрын

Thank you

@mattgonzales810 2 ай бұрын

Hell yes, we want a semi version! 👏👏👏

@Reljic414 2 ай бұрын

Why? Because $100 worth of ammo will last you 10 min longer lol

@LFDNC 2 ай бұрын

This isn’t a weapon. It’s a lifestyle.

@commandernikel 2 ай бұрын

KZfaq must be getting even stricter if TFB is now putting disclaimers in front of their videos.

@thekraken1173 2 ай бұрын

Time to migrate to Playeur

@tfbtv 2 ай бұрын

Full auto fire goes against AdSense terms.

@commandernikel 2 ай бұрын

@tfbtv I'm surprised anything gun related is monetized right now, especially with election season coming up

@kylejohnson1308 2 ай бұрын

@@tfbtvI had an ad about two thirds the way thru the vid. They're not paying you guys because it's not gonna have ads but in reality it does have ads.

@nomercyinc6783 2 ай бұрын

@@tfbtv fuck anything ad related. nobody watches youtube for the ads just like people dont pay for cable to ignore commercials.

@PaulOtlewski 2 ай бұрын

I work at Lewman Arms and we have a factory Hungarian PKM post sample that we rent on our range. I've had access and experience with many different belt fed machine guns and the PKM is by far my favorite machine gun in our inventory.

@ivicajovanovic8731 Ай бұрын

My right arm is 10 cm longer than left one ... 15 months I did carried mine PM84 and I don't regret it 😊 absolutely best weapon I ever saw. And my company commander knew how to make us to shoot only 1 round ... Not to waste ammo and to hit what you aim at it 👊

@FastPaull 2 ай бұрын

I have a Zpap M70, and i'm more than impressed with Zastava's quality. All the rivets are perfect. There's no rattles or weird noises. Probably the best stamped import AK out there right now imo. The only minor complaint i have is that the gun is pretty overgassed out of the box, So if you plan on adding a can, you'll definitely want to address the gas system.

@roentgen571 2 ай бұрын

My M85 (AK "pistol" in 5.56) seems first rate. Super loud with a huge flash, but that's what you get with 5.56 out of a 10" barrel...

@Powershift 2 ай бұрын

Love the Slavdidas track suit footage. LOL

@breckfreeride 2 ай бұрын

Just missing the squat... Would have been plus 20

@timwedemeyer117 2 ай бұрын

Zastava and the videos you do on them are awesome!

@tibi1441 2 ай бұрын

Jebo majku crko sam lol, James rocking the adidas track suit holding the m84 was priceless! Way to go buddy!

@vladimirkostic9932 2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, when I served in the Yugoslav army in 1986, it was not in use. At that time, as a machine gunner in the department, I was given a Hitler buzz saw or M53 witch is copy of MG42. Its burnishing partially fell off from intensive use, so I was constantly fighting rust on the field Easy to shoot and heavy to carry (12,5kg) and a big, big consumer of ammunition. During the war in 1999 I had the opportunity to try M84 from my comrade, it is really accurate and it was brand new black with wood stock.

@superfamilyallosauridae6505 2 ай бұрын

Yugoslavia and Finland did not strictly go with Western or Soviet equipment, at times they had quotas for each and at times they preferred one over the other. At various times, Yugoslavia used primarily American tanks and fighter jets, at other times, Soviet, and eventually domestically made. Small arms happened to be dominated by Soviet designs, but this is not an accurate picture of the entire Yugoslavian arms supply situation. The same goes for Finland.

@vasilije94 2 ай бұрын

Both countries wanted reliability. That's why they both have AK platform as a main infantry weapon. As much as other guns improved reliability, AK is still going to be the best, and during the wartime when you don't have time to clean it, Zastava m70 will just work and chug out any round. As war in Ukraine showed, its all about mechanised battalions. Most fights happen within 100 m, mostly even less than 50 m even though Ukraine is basically just a plain open field. That bit of extra accuracy on AR15 doesn't mean much in those engagments. Also people compare fully decked out civilian AR15 to old AKM platforms and say AK sucks and recoil is strong. New AKs are out for a long time. New m21 is fully modular, with easy calliber switch and shoots grendel. Its perfect. Reliability of an AK, modularity and ergonomics of AR, and balistics of grendel round. Perfect. Yugoslavia and now Serbia was always neutral. We don't like USA and we don't like Russia (Soviet Union). Thats why we don't care for either side. What works works, doesn't matter where it comes from.

@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 2 ай бұрын

Yougos used tommy guns, grease guns, m1 garands and stg44s too

@cinoeye 2 ай бұрын

@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367Sherman Tanks, US jets-f84,f86, Sabre, , French and American Helicopters, Swedish and Uk radars….

@vasilije94 2 ай бұрын

@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 yea, we dont really care. We are not biased to west or east. We just want our shit to work when it needs to. Lol

@superfamilyallosauridae6505 2 ай бұрын

@@vasilije94 More importantly, it needs to be logistically sustainable in a war with either. This (necessary) schizophrenia drove the decisions.

@NoLimitsCommemorativ 2 ай бұрын

😂 I purchased the exact same black Adidas tracksuit from Kohls 2 weeks ago only to wear while shooting my AK. I showed up at a friends house for the UFC fight and he goes, "Goddamn, you look so Serbian right now." That means it's working!

@stefanvuckovic7412 2 ай бұрын

Tuck the jacket in the pants it will boost your confidence and you gain +10 stability

@KristianHerdi 2 ай бұрын

If you are going for the original Serbian look from the 90s the only brand that's accepted is the Nike

@NoLimitsCommemorativ 2 ай бұрын

@KristianHerdi Looks like I'm going shopping again, I guess.

@ReidGrozny 2 ай бұрын

He is correct. Nike, jeans and some gold "kajla" was our criminal wear style. Adidas was in Soviet block. @@NoLimitsCommemorativ

@valiantone395 2 ай бұрын

Niko Belic ///

@TheBranchez 2 ай бұрын

Love the video man! Had me smiling pretty much throughout the whole thing 😊

@novideostopost1268 2 ай бұрын

TFB TV Constantly Reaffirming Zastava purchase even though the rifle speaks for itself

@ligaar0849 2 ай бұрын

God damn the steam coming off the thing in slow motion is not something i thought i needed. But boy did i need it.

@Maximilian1990 Ай бұрын

Very cool video, always love hearing weapon insights and folk tales from people who actually designed and used the equipment in action. Especially when those people have great personalities like Danko and Ranko

@Lester.M 2 ай бұрын

The track suit was golden. Well done sir.

@floridaman2011 2 ай бұрын

I always love to see Darko from DumDum. One of my favorite gun youtubers

@crazygunar 2 ай бұрын

As @ForgottenWeapons said: It's so precise it's not even fun.... Reason why PKM ammo is slightly unbalanced with powder charge to force spread(???). Anyway, I remember very well of this gun from army days. It comes with two barrels (one for RnR and second as pi$$ practice - for cooling, as long as barrel is whitish), massive tripod (with AA feature, and for some reason always ends up stuck between your ribs), 2-3 ammo box with belts and small manual machine for loading belts. Ceca will tear apart any early APCs from 200-300m range with ease. Everybody loves it, except those from other side of sights!

@desertdwellintom 2 ай бұрын

So...is that disclaimer now a YT requirement?

@DinoNucci 2 ай бұрын

Ur m o m comes with a longer disclaimer

@tfbtv 2 ай бұрын

Full auto fire is now against Google‘s terms for including ads on videos.

@KevinG9012 2 ай бұрын

@@tfbtvplease tell me this is a joke?

@jasonsell8523 2 ай бұрын

@@tfbtv I got an ad on this video. Maybe cuz it's just released, but if that's the case then the kiddie warning won't save you anyways. Might as well not bow down if you'll be demonetized either way.

@habibifather7681 2 ай бұрын

@@KevinG9012 it is not a joke

@seppa1019 2 ай бұрын

We use PKM in Finland and I remember from my service time that it always worked perfectly.

@nathanwhite5602 2 ай бұрын

Great job on the video

@pinokio6149 2 ай бұрын

Ceca je....cudo!!!Nosio je 9 meseci...Prava stvar❤

@StefanBlagojevic 2 ай бұрын

@pinokio6149 Највероватније си служио 2004. године?

@pinokio6149 2 ай бұрын

@@StefanBlagojevic Septembar 2004 maj 2005.Obuka u Zajecaru...tuga od kasarne...cistis cime pod komandom...posle toga Vranje,gornja kasarna i baza Golema Cuka.Popeo se na bazu par dana pred Novu Godinu,znam da je taj dan bio onaj ogromni cunami tamo negde naSinatri..Tajlandu..nesto tako...poginulo milion ljudi bukvalno...Spustili me sa baze negde pred kraj aprila,na redovno...vratio se na tri dana bukvalno.Bilo zanimljivo...Straza po 30 dana bez prestanka...patrole po 12 km u jednom pravcu..ides sa minerima trazis mine....par puta nocu isli u zasedu...I tako.Danasnji klinci...mogu samo da sanjaju o otome.A i bolje je tako.Bas su mi zanimljivi u ovim helanka pantalonama...carapice i tetovaze...Ludilo mozga🤗🤗🤗

@TheRealBobBasher 2 ай бұрын

Wow...the slo mo really shows that barrel whip! Wow.

@scottrobinson3281 2 ай бұрын

Interesting to compare the M84 and PKM with the South African SS77. It uses the PKM gas regulator, locking mechanism of Goryunov SG43/SGM, feed and barrel locking mechanism of MAG58, double recoil spring system based on Armalite AR18. Externally, it resembles the PKM.

@tarekmalaeb8229 2 ай бұрын

It will be interesting

@OuijaSTi Ай бұрын

So glad I picked up one of these parts kits and some barrels when I had the chance. Can't wait to build it out one day.

@jeffreyoldham55 2 ай бұрын

Belt fed encounter with Ceca is *extremely* satisfying! 😏

@RookieL021 2 ай бұрын

10:49 damn James looks like he's one of the bosses from Escape from Tarkov

@sorab777 Ай бұрын

It's all truth . Salute from 63 airborn...

@dicus63 2 ай бұрын

During my military service, I was gunner with M-84. At first, I hated this machine gun. As a scout, I had long marches in the field every day during my training, and I was quite bothered by the weight and ergonomics of the "Ceca". Everything changed after the first live firing. I realized that I had a beast in my hands and something worth carrying. From then on, I loved this MG. All the stories about its accuracy are true. I had better shooting results than my colleagues who were using the M-70, and often even those who had the M-76 rifle.

@HunterDave 2 ай бұрын

Oh man, we need a semi version of this in the US!!!

@StefanBlagojevic 2 ай бұрын

@HunterDave Start spamming mail son!

@aramisone7198 Ай бұрын

Maybe they will make it if enough people request it so send them an email it cant hurt.

@IHavAnAkimbonr 2 ай бұрын

That cake in that tracksuit is ridiculous James, phew

@dillonc7955 2 ай бұрын

Ah so this is what happens when you leave a PKM and a Type 88 LMG in a room for too long together...

@zoranmaric7422 2 ай бұрын

Great video!

@mabs9503 2 ай бұрын

Very cool gun and KZfaq channel. Good job, Jame, I am proud of you. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

@tfbtv 2 ай бұрын

Ty mabs

@geoffhargis7301 2 ай бұрын

The PKM, and its derivatives, is the best LMG that has ever been fielded. This isn’t even a debate.

@StefanBlagojevic 2 ай бұрын

@geoffhargis7301 Amen!

@AlASokolov 2 ай бұрын

The PKM is the best GPMG that has ever been fielded.

@StefanBlagojevic 2 ай бұрын

@@AlASokolov Amen.

@leecaptis5865 2 ай бұрын

Great review! Also ...looked like a terrific trip to Serbia.

@einarhornraiser9019 2 ай бұрын

Wow! I haven't even thought about KeyMod in a couple years now! I was quite surprised to see it in military use.

@tfbtv 2 ай бұрын

Still common in Europe.

@dayaninikhaton 2 ай бұрын

@@tfbtvHell nothing surprises me there, Seeing Maxims and Hotchkiss still in operation there makes Forgotten Weapons just as relevant again.

@Kesssuli 2 ай бұрын

Keymod still existing in europe may have something to do with licensing. Keymod is totally opensource to use. M-lok needs license from Magpull. Just guessing why some companies still use keymod as default.

@einarhornraiser9019 2 ай бұрын

@@Kesssuli Ya know what, I'll bet you're correct. I forget MLok is MagPul. I feel like this explains a lot regarding Keymod's popularity overseas.

@Kesssuli 2 ай бұрын

@@einarhornraiser9019 As example small and very little know company from europe Hecler Koch is still using keymod as default rail system. I have nothing to prove that theory so it is just a guess😆

@kjiremhajlovskii9333 2 күн бұрын

I was a marksman in the last wars in the Balkans. a good machine gun didn't stop the whole evening when the KZK wanted to enter Macedonia somewhere around 3 in the morning, I know I changed the nozzle. He was work all26 hours in battle

@ivandjordjevic5088 24 күн бұрын

Whoever served his country and was operator on CECA he knows it's best friend of every soldier and warrior!

@SimpleThingsOnly Ай бұрын

As a former M-84 tank gunner, I confirm the rigidness of the Ceca. We used the M-86 or tank version of the M-84, which is originally called PKT (Kalashnikov Machingun for Tanks). When firing at the tank sooting range, we were just changing the shooters (tank gunners) and ammo belts, while tank was doing shooting excercise all day long. We were changing barrels only if the soldiers were faster with shooting and taking turns on one tank. By the end of one shooting day, one barrel totals around 10.000 rounds.

@lazalazarevic2881 2 ай бұрын

My father used her in action in Smoluca in Garda Panteri. People told me they can see only brains flying everywhere. And in my place we called her different Sejač Smrti or Death Seeder

@skydivingcomrade1648 2 ай бұрын

Beautiful!!

@spektr540hemi 2 ай бұрын

WANT WANT WANT !!! Civilian version yesterday !!! Yes PLEASE !!!

@fraserfulton.1432 2 ай бұрын

It's great when companies make these retro weapons keeps the old stuff going not just in museums .

@BackPackBadger 2 ай бұрын

M84: "Thanks Man" 😁 M240: (Cries quietly in the corner) 😭

@ZacharyYates 2 ай бұрын

One of the best gun channels on KZfaq

@dusanljubisavljevic4154 Ай бұрын

I used it about 10 years before i became a combat medic.The best weapon for fire support🇷🇸💪

@Gabthar 2 ай бұрын

Ian was mostly talking about the pkm and not specifically the m84 in that video. The video was about the pkm and the m84 is a direct copy of the pkm

@zenly_csgo 2 ай бұрын

as i realize it m-84 reverse engineered copy of PKM. Just cant realize why they didn made same stock with a hole

@exyugo Ай бұрын

I was fortunate to shoot M84 back in 1993-94 in full blast 💥. Also had a PKT mounted parallel with main cannon in my tank M84. Yes , Yugoslavia had tank model M84 and heavy machine gun M84

@user-oq1hg4rb6k 2 ай бұрын

Great video !! Subscribe from Serbia

@mikerogers582 2 ай бұрын

I have used PKMs, & I agree. It is a fine weapon.

@fullmindstorm 2 ай бұрын

Very interesting video.

@hanslibija8324 2 ай бұрын

Nisam bio u JNA ali ovo smo zvali u bosni sejac smrti ili skraceno sejac!

@victorbostitch2294 2 ай бұрын

Arkan's wife out here spittin fire

@triviszla1536 2 ай бұрын

Going to be *that guy* at the range with my Zastava M84

@user-kn3de9li1u 2 ай бұрын

Many will be jealous as F when you come to the range with Ceca.

@arnoldestipona2244 2 ай бұрын

One advantage is the use of none disintegrating link. It simplify the mechanical operation. More complex mechanism,more chances of malfunction

@jfess1911 2 ай бұрын

It actually makes the weapon more complicated since the bullet must be pulled backwards from the belt and moved over to be inline with the bore. The older M9 disintegrating link used for the 30-06 Browning MGs did the same thing. I don't really know why the US and NATO decided to go with the M13 push-through design, but it seems that pulling that pulling the bullet from the link during the backstroke of the op-rod and chambering on the return seems to help consistency, going by the PK's reputation.

@laf43777 2 ай бұрын

I have two M70s. Zastava is a great company

@mysthios98_123 2 ай бұрын

It's amazing!

@TieToter 2 ай бұрын

Very Nice!

@cinoeye 2 ай бұрын

Note to our American friends-Yugoslavia/Serbia was not a member of Warsaw pact. We were non aligned and armed with both weapons from the west and east.

@darkogalic5422 Ай бұрын

Ivan Andjelic - Doktor in Battle of Vukovar fired 250 magazine with that weapon on rotating chair without chair back on Serbian position wounded several occupiers who fired green flares for their fellows to pick them up. True story. It happened in the night on 12. october 1991 on crossroads with three streets (O. Price, Stjepana Supanca i Augusta Cesarca).

@alreadywalkingdead 2 ай бұрын

my father carried a M53 (Zastava's copy of MG42) in the war colloquially called "Šarac" and he loved the gun because it fired insanely fast and as he says "eats through ammo like a whore takes money". he later on got a Ceca with ZRAK optic and he loved it as well especially because its a bit lighter and you can actually see where the bullet lands and correct instantly as you're firing because of the optic btw listen to ceca idi dok si mlad

@vikendsrbija 2 ай бұрын

for standing shooting, people don't know that bipod can be folded backwards and be used as handgrip (advise is to just support with hand not hold hard, than barrel will drop back after each shoot). Very precise gun ...

@DrDestructo 2 ай бұрын

Its firing cadence on full auto is so fast and smooth, it sounds like a well-tuned motorcycle that's somehow fuelled by gunpowder.

@robertnelson1098 2 ай бұрын

VERY NICE.... WE LOVE THE M84 AND YOU ALL😊

@user-gr3vd5kc3p Ай бұрын

Bro, next time when you visit Kragujevac ask about M-53! Some guy made German MG 3 with surplus replacement of only five parts!

@miell60 2 ай бұрын

😂😂 That roll over during the intro.

@adrianshephard224 2 ай бұрын

This machine gun nickname in Bosnia was "death sower"...

@onlytrue5169 2 ай бұрын

if you shoot a target with the M-84, the bullets are grouped in one place, if you shoot a target, e.g. a straight line of 50 cm, all the fired bullets go to each other in a straight line, in the third gear it is incredible how accurate the machine gun is, what's more its power is that can cut a 20-cm-thick tree with burst fire