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@pplebite8844 4 жыл бұрын

That headphone seems crazy, Zeos. Never stick your head in Crazy.

@MrHamit64 3 жыл бұрын

A musician friend of mine said that what Zeos doesn't like about these is and I'm sudo quoteing my friend now if there is something wrong with the mix the K371s are just all too happy to show it to you. I guess well according to Nic at least these things are too studio for just listening. But funny Zeos liked the 361s. In that review he said for those cans exactly what my friend said for these. If a song sounds trash on them guess what? That's cause it is trash.

@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Forum Thread :: forum.hifiguides.com/t/akg-k371/6562

@Storebrand_ 4 жыл бұрын

I looked up the harman curve, instantly I went to look at my saved EQ settings for all my things just to see if I've naturally gravitated towards that... They all closely resemble the harman curve. That's actually kinda crazy.

@metal571 4 жыл бұрын

Kind of similar to what happened to me. It's funny because it's what the majority of listeners prefer but headphones, especially higher end ones, have classically targeted much brighter signatures. Change is occurring

@davidcorson2435 4 жыл бұрын

Your EQ is an offset of frequency response. The only real way to see whether you are achieving the harmon curve (or any frequency response for that matter) is to do frequency spectrum analysis by recording or viewing a signal like white noise or pink noise through a test rig (such as a binaural head with room EQ wizard). While it's cool that your EQ compares to the harmon target, what really matters is the resulting frequency response curve - the EQ only contributes partly to this.

@Storebrand_ 4 жыл бұрын

@@davidcorson2435 The point isn't that the EQ makes my speaker/headphones match the curve, rather that I'm just getting closer to what harman hypothesizes. My EQs are unique to each pair of speakers/headphones, obviously they all differ in fre/res, but all the EQ curves boost/lower similar frequencies in harman's curve.

@arthurhaywood2184 4 жыл бұрын

No..... It's not crazy..... It's science..... Reviewers should have a basic understanding of psychoacoustics, the Harman curve & the principles behind it. Human hearing is particularly sensitive in the 1KHz - 5kHz range. Ever wonder why most people find a crying baby to be annoying? Because it's supposed to! We don't perceive that measured dip in the frequency response as a dip. We perceive it as flat (If it's done right.).

@davidcorson2435 4 жыл бұрын

@@Storebrand_ My point is that the harman curve is a response - not an EQ... Maybe I'm just kind of confused with your response . To be clear: your EQ could be the exact opposite of the harman curve and STILL YIELD the harman curve... You can't get "closer to what harman hypothesizes" by simply having curves that "boost/lower similar frequencies in the curve" UNLESS you are doing so to correct the underlying frequency response. Forgive me if I'm just reiterating something you're aware of.

@j3ffleopard690 4 жыл бұрын

Water-proof bag, Pull Tie. Pick one.

@vaxick 4 жыл бұрын

I love my DSP corrected conch shells, haha.

@williamlykens3617 4 жыл бұрын

Do you plan on reviewing the lcd1?

@upamanyughosh3849 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Zeos, what do you think about this K371 vs K553 ?

@miaopasiihfota9216 4 жыл бұрын

Zeos, what's that tube amp on the left, they look really beautiful.

@jean-pierremailloux392 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Zeos , what do you think about the the AKG k275? Thanks. Have nice year :)

@Joe-if5rq 4 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the vmoda m200. Try the k361

@Pirxel 4 жыл бұрын

Got them (recommended to me in your discord channel that you frequent anymore :P) and I'm pretty happy. Though the pads are great, I got some chinese HM5 hybrids knock offs and that made the sound-stage wider and the sound a bit more v-shaped, not to mention even more comfortable, so I stayed with it. Ordered a few aftermarket cables to see if I can improve on that coiled one (mine is not as bad as that, but still a bit stiff on the straight part). To me they oscillate but just between meh and awesome, depending on the track, so yeah, I'm happy, especially given the price.

@Guitw2 4 жыл бұрын

Does the HM5 pad fit these akg? I was checking the measurements from brainwavz and they seem to be incompatible

@Pirxel 4 жыл бұрын

@@Guitw2 These chinese ones yes and the size looks the same, but a bit later I took them off, they seem to mess with the sound too much and as Z said, the stock ones we super comfy already.

@IchDuForeverExplorering 10 ай бұрын

those are the first headphones i bought, ive been useing them for many years daylie, i even bought a second pair for home use only, i really like them, i dont know what you have to listen to to make them sound not good, but maybe im just not hearing that well, or interpreting it wrong, but im thinking to buy other headphones for riding bike to work and other outside activities, beause i need about one new kabel every year

@HiCZoK 4 жыл бұрын

So would You recommend it as fun headphone for soundtracks and immersion single player gaming? I have porta pro but looking for something with more low rumble capability. Where is k361 review

@NOOBandBRO 4 жыл бұрын

I own them...and damn i have fun with them. Im definitely not super critical, but also not.. unconcerned with audio quality and sound. Going from my k7xx to these, it feels the exact same but with better bass/overall equality of lows and highs. I will say, some things come through rough, but also..coming from open back i dont mind. I guess my hearing will suffer from the shrill noises, but I do love them for what I do. gaming/edm/classical music through schiit stack is amazing. runs about half the level of the k7xx on the amp.

@CapyTapy 4 жыл бұрын

Since music is supposed to sound good, isn't the audio we listen already tuned to this magic curve even if unconsciously?

@metal571 4 жыл бұрын

The problem with "neutral" is that mastering varies so much that it almost doesn't matter anymore. This is called the Circle of Confusion. The studio monitors used to produce the music aren't flat, the mics aren't flat, EQ is usually added during mixing and mastering, then the consumers don't have a flat headphone or speakers either.

@samothydude2694 4 жыл бұрын

You should take a listen to the K712 Pro or K812

@jamiecurry7240 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Zeos. What would you recommend for audiophile accuracy in music production through DAW and live, price range being second hand from £50 - £100? I have a set of AKG 240 MKII and hoping to upgrade and keep these that I have as a spare.

@MetalZaraki93 4 жыл бұрын

How do they compare with 1more triple?

@zlibz4582 3 жыл бұрын

please try the redragon H510 headset ,itis 60 usd, has very good mic, good impendence and sounds great --- these are my first "expensive " headphones but i really want you to review them ,i feel they are actually worthy

@aerodrew808a 4 жыл бұрын

what amp is that plugged into?

@melvinrimorin7840 4 жыл бұрын

AKG K361. That might be the real bargain of the century...and...less confusing?! Haha. Thanks for the review, Zeos! Hope you get to compare these with the 361 soon. :)

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

K371 is still better. As it should be

@FullKarenMusic 5 ай бұрын

Dude! Hilariously mixed review. I enjoyed it though. Could eq correction balance out your experience?

@ahmedwael3019 4 жыл бұрын

So will you review the smaller brother of this, the 361?

@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын

i have it here now

@ahmedwael3019 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZReviews any spoilers please?

@ReTr093 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZReviews hurry the fuck up about it

@madhurshankard 4 жыл бұрын

I tried both.. I prefer k371... k361 was shouty, I'm sensitive to treble and didn't like it... other hand k371 was smooth overall... clamping force was less hence sealing was not great...still I can definitely live with it

@orangepony52 2 жыл бұрын

Accurate.

@kantror100 2 жыл бұрын

How would you compare those to k712 pro? im used to listen electronic music (synthwave, house, hardstyle), but up to now i used headphones that are quite lacking in bass. Currently i can listen to hd681 and i would say i wouldn't want more bass-based headphones - Is that mean k371 aren't for me? on another hand i don't know if have proper drive for k712 pro - i currently have Fiio Btr5 and AIM SC808. Could you give me advice?

@avishekghatak2176 Жыл бұрын

K371 have insane subbass, would probably suit your music tastes.

@AAmxs 4 жыл бұрын

hey zeos,whats the best headphone that youve tried and personally love,looking for smtg that i can game and monitor songs on,smtg that will cost under 300 bucks

@exol511 4 жыл бұрын

Mofoka Beej just get DT880 250ohm with an ok amp. Large soundstage, good imaging and less bass to hide stuff when monitoring.

@goldendeagle1914 Жыл бұрын

14:25 lmfao i love this review

@swifty1969 4 жыл бұрын

sorry Zeos but the philips fidellio x2hr sucked when I bought them on cyber monday. Now, they're on the way back to Amazon.

@exol511 4 жыл бұрын

swifty1969 nice to see someone in the comment section being able to tell lofi headphones from hifi.

@CallumSk8er 3 жыл бұрын

yeah I've still got them, haven't got around to selling them yet. They are so bad! ear piercing highs

@tomasrivera5157 4 жыл бұрын

hows the sound stage for gaming vs akg k7 series? looking for something closed-back similar to the sound stage of the open k7 series. Kids, dogs, and tv polluting the akgs k712s. Thanks in advance.

@ghostjacker 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, can you put the correct link for the nighthawks. Cheers

@jeremygunkel 4 жыл бұрын

DMS loved them and the Harman Curve.

@joaofonseca6083 4 жыл бұрын

I thought he shat on them in his review?

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

@@joaofonseca6083 He did lol. But he had an awful pair. Dms in his heart still loves the harman curve. He loves the 560s.

@marcellosambataro 2 жыл бұрын

This one or Yamaha MT5?

@ordoordo8917 4 жыл бұрын

this is completely how I felt when I bought into the hype of MH755s, on some songs they sound absolutely amazing, clean af bass, mids and highs just absolutely right. And the next time I put them on they're absolutely too harsh, too muddy, or too bright and I have no idea why.

@exol511 4 жыл бұрын

JoeZ Ordoñez use audio visualizer plugin in foobar 2000. If you see a big ass block it means the song has been monitored into acustics garbage with everything boosted to the max and no dynamic range.

@exol511 4 жыл бұрын

O also just get a pair of KSC75x for like 14$ from Massdrop (use the 20$ cupon). Bet you they will sound better than most closed back headphones and a lot of open back.

@user-qn3db8cl6q 4 жыл бұрын

which headphone you like best below $300

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

Hd 560s

@donvittoriosierra 4 жыл бұрын

Were these burned in?

@ashneel 3 жыл бұрын

This is why I miss tyll hertsens so much

@ArtKoch 4 жыл бұрын

Is 371 better that yamaha mt5? I need your advice guys,please :)

@jbutz 3 жыл бұрын

From my 5min test yeah, the Yamahas had extremely boosted but not as extended bass as the K371 as well as some strange emphasised frequencies in the top end. Not as harsh as the DT770 but it sounded like phasing on some tracks...

@Tarkov. 4 жыл бұрын

The K361's seem to have slightly better mids from the recordings I've heard. There's a guy who compared the two directly to each other and the 371's almost sound muddy in comparison. I would bet that the perfect "gameplay" video to review headphones with would be an ideal match of Tarkov (probably on Factory)

@KiyPhi918 4 жыл бұрын

Take those recordings with a bit of salt. I have heard both and they sound nothing like the recordings Oluv made.

@metal571 4 жыл бұрын

@@KiyPhi918 that was also before Oluv started using in-ear mics to record which I told him to try, I believe. The EARS as you know is a terrible platform for sound demos

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

That's not really the case tbh

@TheCoolmandingo 4 жыл бұрын

Best intro EVER!!!

@user-qn3db8cl6q 4 жыл бұрын

how to make this make good sounds?

@Mihajil 4 жыл бұрын

Z i got the Neumannz for 400 new cyber monday

@Orteth 3 жыл бұрын

This or the Fidelio h2xr for gaming?

@Schmirgus 4 жыл бұрын

Which list of headphones under 450$ are good?

@karazu121 3 жыл бұрын

for that price, Fostex TR-X00 Mahogany. CAL but on steroids.

@mikkoihamaki9484 4 жыл бұрын

You should try Post Scriptum is you like war sounds.

@MFKitten 4 жыл бұрын

Eh, they ALMOST follow the Harman curve. The parts where they stray are where you're not liking them.

@JahaJaho 3 ай бұрын

That a possible solution to the riddle.

@ruimingxie324 4 жыл бұрын

just put your hands on each side and push it hard onto you ears, and then, enjoy the warmth.

@gclar014 4 жыл бұрын

Toga is fuckin cray cray and I love it

@josh_wink 4 жыл бұрын

What the heck are the "RAAL-REQUISITE SR1A EARFIELD HEADPHONES"?

@nick_hf 4 жыл бұрын

Notif a

@brydon10 4 жыл бұрын

You might like the K361 better actually.

@SamuraiGuy 3 жыл бұрын

He puts it perfectly. Toga would be perfect if you weren't afraid you'd involuntarily donate some blood.

@I_beat_up_cuckolds 3 жыл бұрын

If z doesnt understand what he is hearing there is a high chance the headphone is good to great

@nocturnal0072 3 жыл бұрын

I've come to realize this after watching him for some time. When z doesn't know what to say, i go watch other reviews. Most reviewers tend to like the k371, so it sounds like something worth trying. Also i'm generalizing, but "pro" reviewers tend to like bright headphones and some of them don't like the bass of the K371.

@I_beat_up_cuckolds 3 жыл бұрын

@@nocturnal0072 yes i have noticed that too. Shimmer in the treble region gets lot of love from pro reviewers

@gregsullivan7408 4 жыл бұрын

Your description of the Harmon curve isn't quite right. It's nothing to do with what humans prefer - it's all about making the headphones sound the same as PERFECTLY FLAT loudspeakers, listened to in an average environment. When listening to speakers, there is typically some loss of treble by the time the sound reaches us - that's why the Harmon curve reduces the treble.

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

Huh. I thought they ran a test. And many people preferred that.

@salm8908 4 жыл бұрын

Does this mean i have to buy these to experience a new level of 'peanut butter vibes'?

@igorcosta8559 4 жыл бұрын

Are you getting your hands any time soon on AEON 2 Close Back? That's likely to be my new set (for the office, so closed back it is)

@IchDuForeverExplorering 10 ай бұрын

you would be a great Rick voice actor

@Qwervy 4 жыл бұрын

Just listened to the K361's and IDK if i was listening to the correct stuff (James Morrison: Cant Take That Away From Me, Jacob Collier: It Don't Matter.) But there was massive bass roll off after about 100-120hz and it just didnt sound good at all. They are almost exactly the same, the pivoting arm things are plastic on the K361's and they dont click half as much. I listened to them demoed (new out of the box) in a music store. Dont sound half as good as the K371's IMO.

@paisleepunk 4 ай бұрын

smells like it's an awful seal

@jdssurf 4 жыл бұрын

They sound amazing and detailed to me. Extremely happy. Make sure the audio source your listening to isn’t shit, some of my iTunes downloads are shit, then go check the same song elsewhere, amazing. You can eq them for pleasure, or most of the time they sound great, super happy.

@jdssurf 4 жыл бұрын

371 that is

@blackstrobe69 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I added some hi freq sparkle just for fun and man, this is way above it's price range.

@ohnonate 2 жыл бұрын

Do they sound good listening to classical

@chasemcdonald4073 Жыл бұрын

Yup The fact that Zeos said they sound amazing on some songs and then he said: what’s going on? tells me he has bad files that the K371 are pointing out I notice this with the MDR 7506, they treat bad file as just that. Bad files

@ibrahimb6226 4 жыл бұрын

Zeos praised the Pro 82's even though they had really bad highs (even the updated ones) and he's complaining about these even though they blow the Pro 82's and M40X's out of the water.

@MrAhuraMazda 4 жыл бұрын

These are great headphones but they absolutely dont "blow" either of the headphones you named "out of the water" that's complete nonsense

@roadtonever 4 жыл бұрын

He have better reviewers now like oluv and metal571, time to move on.

@rhodey2952 4 жыл бұрын

Danky McSwag I'll give you metal571, not oluv lol.

@roadtonever 4 жыл бұрын

@@rhodey2952 Oluv is a million times better than Zreviews.

@rhodey2952 4 жыл бұрын

Danky McSwag I feel he looks at graphs and make his decision from there. The guy was arguing that the 4xx and HD800S were close... Actually that the 4xx was better. Then he'd call people dumbass in the comments section when they didn't agree with him. He comes off as whiney and super sensitive. Not a fan, I kinda was a fan at first but that changed.

@hazi5961 4 жыл бұрын

I often times find myself disagreeing with Zeos...however, this review is spot on. I believe what Z was referring to with sounding bad is probably related to the very small but apparent spike in the treble from 6 to 7.5 khz (about 8db). This isn't always noticeable unless the song has an aggressive tilt in that frequency. A great example of this can be heard listening to Tom Sawyer by Rush. Geddy Lee's vocals and keyboard synthesizer and Alex Lifeson's guitar and Neil Peart's crash symbols are prevalent in that range. I really love them, but that peak can become a bit much at times. Another thing to keep in mind is the pads are shallow and soft, so if you have larger ears, they will touch the inner cup after extended use, due to the pads becoming extra soft with body heat. Also, for gaming these are quite good (at least when I tested them playing Dead by Daylight with my EL Stack).

@metal571 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's really interesting that a lot of other people are hearing this 7k thing but I can't for the life of me be bothered by the treble of this thing, and I'm the most mega warm preference kinda guy ever. Must be something about the clamp force and fit on the ear. Only thing clearly forward to me is the 3.5k upper mids and sub bass and that's about it. It's a super boring headphone so not surprised that Z won't like it lol

@marksafe5463 4 жыл бұрын

metal571 and Zeos, I’m literally trying to figure out if I should buy these these things or the Sivga 006. Probably go with Sivga because of sound demos Z did. But I’m still not sure. I feel like the akg could be potentially perfect for me... l have no idea.

@hazi5961 4 жыл бұрын

@@metal571 I agree. I have larger ears and thus they are closer to the driver. I also get a very good seal, so I think I pickup the treble more. I have the same preferences as you, so I do very much like the AKG K371, but I can see how others wouldn't. My stable of cans are Portapros, K371, LCD-2C and Atticus, so it's evident I love warmth.

@hazi5961 4 жыл бұрын

@@metal571 Another good song that displays this peak is BBK by Korn. Specifically the 1st 30 seconds or so.

@hazi5961 4 жыл бұрын

@@marksafe5463 Sivgas are awful. I bought a pair for my wife (who isn't picky) and she had me return them the next day. I ended up buying her the Sennheiser HD569 and she was much happier. Each to their own, but I also disliked the Ligma...I mean Sivga.

@matsonkepson8381 4 жыл бұрын

I am so sad now, bought k371BT instead of 361 i should found this review 2 weeks before

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

Don't be. But maybe you should have bought the regular k371.

@heavyharmonies 4 жыл бұрын

Mark Harmon curve? #gibbslap

@anselminos5238 3 жыл бұрын

i have had them for a day and im in the exactly same situation i either love them or hate them, depends whole lot on the track as Zeos mentioned. idk if i should return them or not and get pair of beyerdynamic DT 990/770 or sennheiser hd 600/660

@XaeroIFBB 3 жыл бұрын

I dont have any these for now but thinking same DT770 or K371 :-/

@anselminos5238 3 жыл бұрын

@@XaeroIFBB DT770 and K371 on the frequency response graph are pretty identical, few exceptions here and there for sure, but K371 has more sub-bass than DT770. I find it that the sub-bass boost on the K371 can make or break tracks depending on how much bass the track has

@XaeroIFBB 3 жыл бұрын

@@anselminos5238 I am going for K371 I think I will be happy with them :D if nah I will buy also DT :) Thx m8

@anselminos5238 3 жыл бұрын

@@XaeroIFBB yeah i did a moderate -4dB low cut and the K371 sound great and flat

@lawrencewang3327 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder how the padswapped Monoprice Modern Retros contend in the current market? I got a pair and they are my best 35 dollar purchase. I just wish i had more cans to use those pads on!

@NightmareFactory830 4 жыл бұрын

Harman curve is also considered the headphone mixing and mastering standard, headphones like the shure 1540, focal spirit pro, and hd 600 try to replicate It. It takes into account the vibrations and transitions of sounds throughout a room from a purely flat speaker. So not only is it actually one of the most accurate headphone in its price range, its way more comfortable and well built than its peers. But what youre experiencing with the sound is a hotly mixed track. These don't perfectly match the harmen signature, they are a bit brighter. So because of that, mixes that have too much high end will be exposed REAL FUCKING QUICK.

@MosoKaiser 4 жыл бұрын

The Harman curve doesn't aim for a flat perceived frequency response, but one preferred by listeners.

@NightmareFactory830 4 жыл бұрын

@@MosoKaiser i guess the right word isnt flat, buts its creation is meant for mixing. The quote about its creation is "good speakers in a good room" for mixing and mastering

@homeboi808 4 жыл бұрын

It also has a decent dip ~4kHz, so emphasis ~6-8kHz is even more noticeable.

@Clobercow1 4 жыл бұрын

Measure and DSP the AKG K371 flat and see how they do?

@metal571 4 жыл бұрын

Lol Z doesn't believe in measurements

@BlueSpirit. 4 жыл бұрын

metal571 LoL! These headphones are probably great for their intended purpose, mixing. Ps. I trust your ears more. Does the 8 kHz region need to be brought down? ( I should watch your review again. ) lol.

@metal571 4 жыл бұрын

I wasn't bothered by it if there is a peak there. I think these are a little too much on the dark side of neutral overall for studios to enjoy them. Harman is a more consumer friendly tuning in my experience

@BlueSpirit. 4 жыл бұрын

metal571 I’m sure that these would help me mix to the Harman curve. I still have my k712s. I have flat phones that I don’t enjoy. They’re for work. When it comes to mixing, I learn my headphone, and I don’t listen to some mixing phones for pleasure. However, I can mix in pleasure cans if I know them well. Headphones are such a fun hobby. I think half the fun is guessing which reviewers are right for my ears. Lol.

@metal571 4 жыл бұрын

@@BlueSpirit. funny part is K712 is quite a colored headphone for being "reference". Very easy to see the characteristic K7 series FR for it on rtings for example

@Nick-s-f 4 жыл бұрын

DMS couldn't have been more different in his review, he actually thought they were waaaay too dark sounding or 'dead'.

@homeboi808 4 жыл бұрын

The headphone measures close to Harman’s target, so it depends if your personal target is close to Harman’s or not. It does have a dip at 4kHz, where we are very sensitive, so that is a factor. But for $100-$150, these are my recommendation for closed back, and the X2HR for open back.

@wcg66 4 жыл бұрын

No way these are.dark IMO, they seem brighter than neutral to me (despite Harman curve.) The HD 6xx/650 are dark-ish for me and slightly veiled but these are neither IMO. Given the better bass extension and amount, I'd grab these over the Senns for a fun listen.

@homeboi808 4 жыл бұрын

@wcg66 Measurements confirm there is a bit more treble than the Harman curve.

@wcg66 4 жыл бұрын

@@homeboi808 Definitely, but I prefer that signature within reason.

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

@@homeboi808 What about the dt 770 pro? Gigabass man. Gotta have that bass.

@MrHamit64 3 жыл бұрын

Ah that's interesting because it sounds like it depends on the song. Depends on the artist. So to stick with my favorite girl ones whilst Avril Lavigne may sound epic Liz Phair may not or may be okayish. Whilst Ariana Grande might sound cool who knows what Mandy Moore would be like. Dam bro that's confusing. Also it's harder as he didn't name any songs that were trash nor really explain why. Or at least what heard that causes him to say they are trash with the trash songs.

@turbomustang84 4 жыл бұрын

Since I have a legitimate equalizer I can take almost any Headphone and alter it a bit to make it worthwhile but it has to offer something better than my now substantial pile of Headphones for me to consider it ...... I don't think these are my future closed cans so I'll save up for the Focal Elegia but I must admit the Beyerdynamic Gaming Headset is very intriguing....

@antonhelsgaun 4 жыл бұрын

What equalizer is that?

@chiguazo 4 жыл бұрын

Any chance you can get your hands on the SR1a Ribbon Headphone for review? looks really sleek and from people who went to camjam that heard it say the sound is really impressive and different from any planar, electrostatic or dynamic headphone available and I would like to here your opinion (an expert) about it. Thanks.

@immanueljungheim8512 4 жыл бұрын

Schrödinger's headphones.

@adityasharma2870 4 жыл бұрын

Oh the mixed feelings I get from this video! Its like I'm talking to a crush

@robstivers1994 4 жыл бұрын

Zeos... I'm like you. I've been on a quest to find the perfect sub $200 closed headphones for several years now. I've tried a ton, but can't find any that come close to beating the 250 ohm version of the Beyerdynamic DT250. If you can get past the dated broadcast production design--they've been in production for AT LEAST 15 years--the clunky coiled cable and the goofy protrusion where it attaches to the left earcup, you'll be rewarded with the most neutral and most natural sounding headphone. I took them to bed. They're part of my nightstand rig and currently are plugged into a Geshelli Labs Archel2 Pro. Sound amaze-balls. No joke. You do have to do a small mod to the cable where it attaches, or there is some pretty obvious channel imbalance. 5 minute fix--no more channel imbalance. Until I find something that tops these, my choice for sub $200 closed cans is the 250 ohm DT250. Would love to see you review a pair.

@metal571 4 жыл бұрын

DT250 is high on my list of things to review. Oluv really seems to like those

@robstivers1994 4 жыл бұрын

@@metal571 Very cool. I'll keep an eye out for that review!

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

K371 is good. Take what z said with a grain of salt

@karazu121 3 жыл бұрын

I found a pair of K371 at the price of a K361, which one should i get? please help. :)

@alexsmith1207 3 жыл бұрын

K361

@alexsmith1207 3 жыл бұрын

K361 has little more treble, it's matter of preference but for me k361. Both of these are great I heard.

@karazu121 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexsmith1207 okay i'll get the 361 ,thx bro

@s7robe297 3 жыл бұрын

It’s not the headphones. Definitely bad / weird mixing. Or possibly not getting a consistent seal. These are very prone to sounding awful when you don’t get a good seal.

@r3forge 4 жыл бұрын

I had them in shootout @ home - for me the dt770 250Ohm take it every day.

@Guitw2 4 жыл бұрын

The first zeos review that I completely understand what he's talking about... "Oh yeah, oh no, yes, no" mixed feelings all the way

@Narinjas 4 жыл бұрын

"I LOVE THEM... I hate them?"

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

I don't. The headphones sound fine. Best closed backs for $150 imo.

@RaceDriverMIKU 4 жыл бұрын

AKG K245 comes with only colied one.

@TheTardis157 4 жыл бұрын

I hope the 361s are similar to the magic of the CB1s. So long as they are comparable but more comfortable it should be good.

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

Honeslty. The 371 still are the better headphones. Take what zeos said with a bowl of salt. I haven't really noticed any major issue with them like that.

@HiCZoK 4 жыл бұрын

I cannot decide... These or dt 770 32ohm or pro82... All are comfortable and sound kiiiinda similar but these go the loudest so would be easier if I want to connect them to ps4

@lefan1959 2 жыл бұрын

Today I listen k361 bt vs k371 bt vs m50xbt. K361 bt - worst. Signature k361 bt like earpods with more bass & treble and like JBL live series

@user-tj5hq2kz8x 4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly how I felt about the LCD-1

@jonnypoundland4118 4 жыл бұрын

Just picked up a pair of these for $68 used twice on eBay hoping for good things.

@ReneHoffmann194 4 жыл бұрын

Bought the K371 and am really happy. They'll replace my DT 770. Sound is a bit more balanced and the heights less sharp, love the sound signature. It's also really comfy. Its amazing and for that price its almost a steal. Would have taken them even for 250€ I think.

@boodle4952 3 жыл бұрын

for everyday use would you recommend them over the dt770s?

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

@@boodle4952 The dt 770s have a crap ton of bass

@the_depressionist_ 4 жыл бұрын

"....these are amazing and confusing - probably like the perfect woman." 😂 So true!! So it's the waifu of headphones?🤔 ... ... "You put AKG K371 into your basket"

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

Nah. I disagree with his analogy. They sound fine.

@duandabriandika 4 жыл бұрын

These or m60x

@samlcyo2 4 жыл бұрын

These are waaaaay more comfortable. A bit more bass too. They also sound a bit less aggressive. Love em

@I_beat_up_cuckolds 3 жыл бұрын

I never trust his ears. Just for entertainment

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. You are right

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

@@mani7098 number 371

@cmercerelli 4 жыл бұрын

Dynamics are different across the frequency response range at different volumes. Not good.

@ATommy-lz4jd 4 жыл бұрын

That normally is a problem which gets solved with a more powerful amplifier. Infact every headphone has the same issue, when underdriven.

@alexlazenby 2 жыл бұрын

"the fuck are these?" [end review] 😆

@Boomer112 3 жыл бұрын

So... it's basically like a love-hate relationship? Are they better than Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro though? Thought of buying these but i don't know if i'll be downgrading from the DT770's with these.

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

K371 is much better

@blackstrobe69 3 жыл бұрын

k371 is so muuuch better, I have Dt770 Pro 250 so i can confirm this.

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

@@blackstrobe69 Hell yea brother. Idk why zeos hates it exactly. I mean it really isn't that different from the k361.

@adamhurd4501 4 жыл бұрын

These are SPECIAL. Easily the best closed back, and one of the best cans overall for the cost. Honestly threw every genre of music i could at them just to try to hear the things you supposedly hear...to no avail. These literally just changed the landscape of mid-fi cans. That's not even mentioning the comfort, and the fact they come with 3!!!!! cables. This'll be your "controversial" review this year for sure.

@BlueSpirit. 4 жыл бұрын

Adam Hurd I agree. I don’t understand his crazy description of sound. Metal 571 has better descriptions, and more discerning ears.

@adamhurd4501 4 жыл бұрын

@Sash Campbell never heard them, never will. 400 beans for a closed back is tough to swallow, and there are better used cans for that cost that are better. The k371 is just a solid can overall for the money, and unseats alot of other cans in that range as the best value.

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

Emu teaks are pretty good though.

@adamhurd4501 3 жыл бұрын

@@brownchair2698 EMU teaks are great, yes. But go for more than double what you can get a k371 for. Saying what I said is based on the insane price to performance you get with the k371

@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын

@@adamhurd4501 560s might be better than the k371 for the price.

@halt.halt.halt. 4 жыл бұрын

For me the issue is pushed bass below 50ish Hz and a weird lack around 50/60-100 Hz. Depending on the bass drum tuning it’s either way too much or barely existent. And when bass drum is combined with sine sub bass, it’s mostly gone. For some songs that makes these useless for me. For example the whole i,i Album by Bon Iver. Other Folk albums however sound near perfect. Also I feel like the vocals often times overpower the rest as the peak seems at around 2.5-3k. It would have sounded more balanced in my ears when 1.5k-2k would have been more present in comparison. I‘m absolutely with you. Weird love-hate relationship.

@jhon9364 2 жыл бұрын

I feel exactly the same. What headphones do you recommend that dont´t push bass below 50ish Hz and lack around 50/60-100 Hz?

@halt.halt.halt. 2 жыл бұрын

@@jhon9364 I like the Sennheiser HD 660s in that regard. In comparison they feel a bit pushy in the higher bass frequencies and low mids, but once you got used to the profile, they feel rather balanced. They are in a different price range though. Other than that, digging deeper into the HD 560s might be an option as well. That being said - I kept the K371 s and also got used to their signature. Now I like to use both, the Sennheisers as well as the AKGs. I tend to choose the headphones for specific music. Overall the HD 660s feel like the better all rounder for my music consumption.

@jhon9364 2 жыл бұрын

@@halt.halt.halt. Thanks!

@georgereddy7752 4 жыл бұрын

Do they sound better and more comfortable than CoolerMaster MH-751's? :thinking:

@exol511 4 жыл бұрын

George Reddy personally have yet to find a many closed back headphone not A900x that are not garbage. This one is one of the rare not garbage ones which imo is a big thing.

@dperricone7172 4 жыл бұрын

@ZReviews Sennheiser HD8 DJ beat AKG to the punch, design wise. Sound wise? Very different. Worth a look, if you haven't already.

@dhruvmeena96 2 жыл бұрын

its confusing because it reveals recording artifact....simple

@antyvirusuk8056 4 жыл бұрын

It's showing the truth of the recording

@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Well you say that. But the much more expensive Neumann NDH20 do that same thing only my eyes don't bleed. Seems like a feature.

@antyvirusuk8056 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZReviews maybe, but there is a $400 gap between them roughly

@ammar5400 4 жыл бұрын

is it just me or I don't give a sh**t for any closed back headphone anymore? open back is a whole new world!

@user-xg6zz8qs3q 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t get the hype around open backs. They don’t have enough bass, and I see myself boosting the volume too high because of that.

@BlueSpirit. 4 жыл бұрын

So, so-so sudio? These may still be good for mixing. Obviously for listening pleasure, it depends on the mix. The old Yamaha monitors that every studio in the world had, sound like ass. A quote from a famous producer said, If you can make your music sound good on the Yamaha, your good.

@thiscorrosion900 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah well, I don't see the point of making music on crap-sounding gear. I'll go buy some fucking Bower & Wilkins and the best amp I can find, and mix on that. At least I know they'll sound good. Yamaha is spectacularly overrated. Nice bikes and synths, though.

@arthurhaywood2184 4 жыл бұрын

You need to try a pair of German Maestro GMP 8.35 Mobile. Very underrated. Especially with a pad swap to Brainwavz Round Sheepskin.

@juliansimmons7700 4 жыл бұрын

At some point you're going to have to try a (run-in) pair of Yamaha's HPH MT5's, what's real crazy is none of you guys is trying them, yet giving a punt to everything else. Yes and I said the MT5's, not the MT7's, not the MT8's. I'll keep saying this until you or Metal tries the MT5s.

@thiscorrosion900 4 жыл бұрын

I heard the Yamaha MT5s extensively recently at Guitar Center, they sounded good, but a bit boring and flat, as I would've expected, as monitors. For good monitors the Yamahas are quite good, though. I also listened to these AKGs, sorry it might have been the 361s, and found the fit HORRENDOUS, headband too thin, they just felt weird, and the sound, either too bass-heavy (but muddy) or thin and annoying. Reject! I also tried the AKG 551s on (which I'd been seriously considering buying), the fit was shockingly terrible, either too loose or slipping on my head, the sound was at least decent, though. One thing I've learned is Guitar Center pushes mainly studio monitor stuff, they don't have much in the way of headphones that can be seen as "fun" listening cans. I ended up buying the AT M20xs, forgiving AT for their past harshness, but they still don't sound as warm and fun as my HIfimans, PortaPro, or Linsouls. Guitar Center had gazillions of cheap TASCAM monitors hanging there: I read up on those, well, they're decent, but really intended specifically for studio and mixing work. I wouldn't really expect them to sound great for pleasure listening purposes.

@juliansimmons7700 4 жыл бұрын

@@thiscorrosion900 I agree about your experiences of the AKGs (especially the awful 551, worst fit in the universe and thinnest sound), but the MT5 in my experience are v.powerful (though well judged and tight), v.fast and v.accurate ...but not flat (and from their measured response graphs they are proven not to be flat). Also you can drive the MT5's v.loud and they maintain their accuracy and don't distort - in this they are among only a few headphones in the world - really!!! ( - that's the MT5s folks).

@thiscorrosion900 4 жыл бұрын

@@juliansimmons7700 I see, I dunno I only auditioned them for a few minutes. I had higher hopes for the 551s but maybe not. Mainly it was the fit that annoyed me. I was cranking some Bose and Skullcandy Crushers today at Best Buy, they def. distort at a higher volume, moderately high. No thanks.

@juliansimmons7700 4 жыл бұрын

@@thiscorrosion900 I have a lot of headphones, partially for 'on the road studio' use and partly just for listening, I requiring a headphone experience close to hifi speakers but also with the speed and detail of studio monitors. The Yamaha MT5s are my all round favourite, I use them 90% of the time (I have 3 pairs in different locations). My next favourite is the Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO (tesla drivers) - but they need an amp and are only for critical studio use - too harsh for general use (and their bass distorts easily, as most headphones do - except the MT5s). Yes the MT5's if anything are slightly dark, but this means you can turn them up without hearing fatigue. Not come across anything better, but each to their own, I have no idea why Z has such an aversion to Yamaha that he doesn't review the MT5s!