I was thinking about ghost ring sights .

+Phil Christmas -- And thanks for your comment and taking the time to post it...Happy Holidays to you, Mr. Christmas..!! FC

something to try.... it worked for me anyway....

LMO MechTech - Yes, Larry - it's all in the little power drills and tools that dentist use, plus they are used to working with small things on moving targets - Toothsmithing is like gunsmithing, right? Ha, ha Best to ya...

Troy Ortega - I remember buying two Williams that were supposed to fit Winchesters, but the ones they sent were for Marlins. I kept them because I knew that I wanted some Marlins anyway...Skinners replace the rear sights so they are much easier to manage. After the dentist ground down the rear sight - and good grief, it only took a minute - he used this flat wheel shaped diamond drill point that flattened the sight blade down like it was made of clay - that sight works so well, no need to make any further changes. Have a great day, FC

Robert Dull - And best to ya, Cheech - That's what my neighbor used to call this guy that looked just like Chi Chi Rodriguez... Have a great day, FC

tjmooremusic - Appreciate seeing your comments..!! Loyal subscribers to YT posters is like when we pump gasoline into our cars...The feeling of enablement, and "now we're going places...." is hard to put into words. When Winchester closed down M94 production, what they were saying was that they no longer could make the 94 (or model 92s) and sell it at a price that would allow them to turn profits doing so. The Marlin design (also used by Henry) was simpler with fewer parts so they are in production. I know the reviews on the Rossi 92s are up and down, but I've had nothing but good things to say about my Rossis. If you want a good shooting rifle, the Rossis are plenty good. If you want nice quality, the hexagon rifle Rossi 92s are a step up in finish compared to the regular round barrel carbines. If you want real quality and finish, the Henrys are there - as you are well aware. The current Marlins are pretty good guns - the 1894s now have cut rifling, priced around $650, US made, and shoot up a storm. I would rate today's lever guns based on quality as 1) Uberti 2) Henry 3) Japan 4) Marlin 5) Rossi. (there is a big difference) Based on performance 1) Uberti 2) Henry 3) Marlin 4) Rossi (but the difference is not a wide difference). Based on value 1) Marlin 2) Rossi 3) Henry 4) Uberti 5) Japan. These are all opinions and you will find differing opinions. I own multiple Rossis and Marlins but only one Henry (so far) and two old Winchesters. Best to ya, FC

Oheeeoh- Happen to have one right here…we'll give it a go….

Robert Tolley - Always good to get comments from ya, welcome back...I get your pun - our lever guns have sights that have ladders that you can climb back up on... Best to ya, FC

justonemike Shooters are happy than when we get good sights regulated on our guns... That's for sure... Good shootin' to ya

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myREDTAIL - Ha, ha, ho, har....That's a good one, bro... Best to ya, FC Steve

PinkOld - Right, you are…Insightful, you be…Yoda, I'm not…A good day, you have...

At least my proctologist puts me out for it!

@@gregorystaley6828 LOL!! So true!

tony salecki - What I didn't mention in the video was that doing the correction this way results in having the sights nice and low to the gun…much handier and sturdier that way… Have a great day

J Martin - That sounds like a dental joke....well done, I'll have to show that one to the dentist next time I pick up dental lead foils... Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to ya..!! FC

SomeGuyInSandy- The hand drills that dentists use are like Dremel's on big time steroids… Have a great day...

There are so many variables a factory can not pre set for them all. Like when you get a new car, the seat is adjustable and only you can set it up for your body type and driving style.

BlackWaterPirate - Just worked out that way - and the way it was done sure beats my Dremel for speed and smoothness of the reduction. But if your dentist is not a shooting enthusiast, there's no concept there. Have a great day, FC Steve

gman77gas - Ha, ha that's a good one lol - thankfully, my dentist is also a friend, and yes, he also saves his x-ray lead for me as well - in fact, he got other dentists to do the same…I get boxes, jars or bags of pure lead x-ray foil regularly over the year. One of them converted to digital though, no more from that guy. Soon all dentists will be digital - Best to you...

gun nut...I think you might have to actually draw a graphic on a piece of paper to visually see that raising rear sight forces you to bring the barrel front sight up to keep the point of aim.

gun nut - It's always confusing, but the best is to remember the old rule "Move the rear sight in the direction you want the bullets to go" So if bullets hit high - you want bullets to hit lower - therefore lower the rear sight. If hitting right, you want bullets to go left - move rear sight to left. Same rule applies to adjusting scope sights - move the scope adjustment in direction you want bullets to go. Add to confusion - for front sights - rule is "Move the front sight to the bullet hole" So if gun shoots high, move the front sight higher to the bullet hole (done by getting a new taller front sight or welding to or adding taller bead to the existing front sight). If gun shoots left, move the front sight to the left onto the bullet hole. I find I have to do a quick recall of these rules just before I start cranking on sights…. Best to ya...

WOW...perfect! I don't think I would of accomplished saying all that at one time! A rule of thumb if ever was one! Good Job!!

you're completely right you two. I just sat there and thought about it. idk what I was thinking I couldn't remember if I was shooting high or low. I had to draw it out to realize my mistake.

gun nut- no mistake - let anyone who has not cranked the sights the wrong way, take a step forward…hmmm, nobody moving. What's embarrassing is when you're shooting High Power and make that mistake - your score becomes infinitesimal. But I only made THAT mistake once… Best Regards...

Charlie Skinner im also having that problem with my rifle, but my rear sight is in a fixed position, i cant move it at all, so i may get a different front sight

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+Rondo Schiavoni -- As with all 22 semi-auto rifles or handguns - they have to be fired with different ammo to determine what the rifle likes to feed. There really is no other way. And once you find the brand that shoots well and functions reliably - there you go!! Happy Holidays, FC

Thank you , I purchased the 525 count box of ammo with realizing the were hollow points with plated copper , however if they don't work good I could probably sell them to a fellow gun shooter at the range thanks you are right try them first .

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My Rossi RIfle - Sorry to not have seen this great comment till now - When Google does not post a comment in my inbox, I won't see it for months...You've got those old rear sight systems figured out... Interesting, I've been looking at those tang sights myself - Have a great day, FC

TheJhaley12 Thanks for that information, but you didn't mention the name of the book...I don't think many have heard of that book...

sorry, the manual that comes with the rifle, that book. The Henry Rifle

TheJhaley12 Sounds like a fine addition to a personal library - at least for those who still want books instead of the computer versions...Best to ya

FortuneCookie45LC I honestly don't know why people have to be so mean and smart mouth. I had been looking at Henry Rifles, yours or this one at least looks like a Henry so I assumed you had the manual that comes with them and that is what I was talking about. I would think anyone would know what I meant but never mind. At least you've had a good laugh today. People today, sick.

TheJhaley12 When I said "Best to ya", I meant that. I should apologize to you - I never laugh at anybody short of comedians. Laughing at people creates bitterness, hatred and anger - has no place in the society we wish to build. There are some sick people making comments today as well. ...I'm sure I looked at the paperwork that came with my Henry rifle, but there was nothing there that was special enough to put to memory, so nothing about it registered with me. I've shot lever guns for most of my adult life so you hand me a lever gun - I can use it. I do recall looking for complete disassembly instructions and there wasn't much there. When you first said "the book", I thought there was some gun book out there. No where in the video was there any mention of making any adjustment away or towards the shooter - just that high shooting lever guns either need the rear sights lowered or front sights raised to make the correction. In John McDonald's case, his problem was the rear sight was as low as it could go and still the gun was shooting high. When we are talking up and down and you are talking away and towards, it didn't register at first. We cannot lower the rear sight by doing anything that would raise it. And then the miscommunication occurred with the "book" - a book can be anything, and these days, we don't need books anymore with the internet (computer). Personally, I do have a library of books, but all the manuals are still in the gun boxes so that if I sell the gun, I can give the new owner everything. Manuals are smaller publications short of books that are item specific. I didn't make the connection until your second comment. This whole thing is a regrettable misunderstanding...sometimes when I ask for clarification on a comment, that itself causes misperceptions....we have the same problem with e-mails...The shooting community doesn't need to have this kind of thing - Have a great day

David Welsh - The dentist is also a shooter and he handled that gun like he knew it well, only took him 10 minutes total to get it done.... Have a great day, FC Steve

I saw that movie in high school and still remember that line. Running Man

+timber wolf -- 1) You could get a lower front sight and install it yourself. 2) Another option would be to get a receiver peep sight - those are often higher to begin with needing a taller front sight to stay on zero. But in your case the effect would be to have a taller rear sight, just what you need to get the rifle to shoot higher - no new front sight needed - might work out just fine. 3) Scope sight option. My 1895 Cowboy also shot way low, I solved the problem by putting a tactical scope on it - zeroed just fine. So you have different options.

hmmm ok well i was already thinking about getting a receiver peep sight .. so that might be the way to go for my self .. only because its going to be used as a bush gun :) thank you for your imput :)

you need a taller not lower front sight

kevin lyons - I know you know, but sometimes it's easy in print to get front and rear sights and the various adjustments unsorted. Rule with front sights is the front sight chases the bullets - so if the gun shoots high, we want a taller front sight to zero. If gun shoots low as timber wolfs does, then the sight needs to go lower to chase the bullets. The rear sight of course is the reverse. Then the rule on rear sights is we want the sight to go in the direction we want the bullets to go. If gun shoots low, we want higher so the rear sight goes taller to zero...If you were doing the adjustments, you would be OK - I've seen this at the range all the time, and with scope sights, it's really confusing to those who don't read the directions. Best to ya, FC

Ammo Man - My dentist is still one of the old school ones who still give out the front of the line toothbrushes and toothpaste and dental floss when I get my teeth cleaned. He uses drill bits once and throws them away - says it saves sterilizing them and new bits work best anyway. So he just used used drill bits for this sight job - worked fine for me. What I didn't mention in the video was he also opened up the notch a bit for my older eyes - didn't even take him a minute to do that - his drill is powerful and steady. Didn't consider doing the bend thing, that should work. Best Regards, and thanks for posting...

why not use a ball peen hammer more half-ass

608johnny Whatever works to bend the rear sight lower solves the problem of high shooting gun. Of course drifting in a higher front sight is the best solution, but having to buy the part and waiting to get it is not desired when a little tweaking will do the job and leave us with lower sights also...Thanks for your comment.

Yeah! Why not?

andre conceicao ferreira de mello - You can contact the manufacturer of the firearm for the rear sight that you need…Hope you find it OK…Best to ya

Win94ae - If you took a sight picture from my rig, you might not mind. I didn't want the tall Rossi 92 sight on my long hexagonal barrel rifle. Rossi makes a taller sight (it's a lot taller) for their carbines and short rifles. But their long ones, they install the shorter sight. I wanted low sights on this 92, and this solution suited me. Certainly others could do the taller sight and if too tall, then file or grind the new front sight to suit. Either way, we're grinding on something. There's more than one way to skin a cat… Good options are always good. Thanks for your fine comment Best to ya...

FortuneCookie45LC www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=16951 There is about 200 sights to choose from, all different sizes and types. You are making it way more complicated than it is. There is no need for grinding, or gunsmiths, or sending the rifle back.

Win94ae Good points, I did think about the gold bead possibility, or going to Skinners as well.. or fiber optics etc., .like you say - there are lots of options. But this fix wasn't complicated either - no need to take anything off the gun and done in 10 minutes...+ show rifle to friend. Viewers out there can do the Dremel thing, if they are handy...I sure wouldn't want anyone grinding or filing if they weren't...but someone not handy would damage their gun driving the front sight out also...Have a great day, and I like your YT name - says it all about your experience with a very fine firearm...

Robert Tolley - Sorry for the delayed reply - Google did not post your comment in my inbox for me to pick up... Been fine...and good hearing from ya, even though 2 months late... Best Regards, FC

bitfreakazoid- It's also all their little tools - I've got all these neat stainless steel tools that the dentist is always replacing - but they make great little punches and scrapers to clean all the hard to reach places like the corners inside auto pistol slides and under the top straps of revolvers where the forcing cone is - some of the little picks are sold as gun cleanings stuff, but they are really dental tools…I should do a video on them, but it's not that interesting… Best Regards

FortuneCookie45LC Hmm... interesting. Will keep this in mind. I love the octagon barrel. Would love to get a lever action with one. Random question. Do you do any cowboy action shooting? Seems like you have the guns you need.

bitfreakazoid We did some informal cowboy stuff at our range. I was getting the gear needed to start doing cowboy action, even got some clothes. But then some family things took priority, and I determined that I didn't need to compete at that time after all…Once the decision was made to hold back on that… the urge to get into competition subsided, and now, I'm very happy just shooting with the rest of the range bunch on weekends…If the whole family gets into cowboy action, that's where the real fun is - Not as much fun if one goes out solo…Best Regards...

who is cheaper ?dentist or gunsmith

608johnny If your dentist understands shooting, and you are a patient of his or friends of his - the dentist is cheaper - Between 5 and 10 minutes, he was done!! No charge. Best to ya

Christopher Haist I am looking at the Skinner sights - we'll see how it shoots with the stock sights first...If the rifle shoots up a storm, the Skinners are on deck. Best Regards

FortuneCookie45LC Stevesgunz has a really slick peep that replaces that goofy bolt safety, and you shouldn't have to replace the front sight. I put one on my model 92 45 colt. Peeps are definitely the way to go. (coming from and old Marine...)

Christopher Haist Actually, I've had this Rossi for quite a while now and the sights aren't bad on it - flat blade rear. Skinners would be barrel mounted, and not as effective as you point out. The replacement of the safety sounds intriguing - I'm going to check out Stevesgunz right away - thanks for the info...Hail to the US Marines!!

I'm about to try the skinner barrel mount on my Rossi Rio Grande. I didn't like the receiver mounted skinner very much. The receiver sight from stevez was great, especially the part where it replaces that safety! I just had to put a little dab of gooey loctite in the bottom of the hole in teh bolt to keep it from moving around.

Christopher Haist I checked out the Stevesgunz sight for the 92 Rossi and the looseness concerns me. Both reviewers and yourself note the same problem. I can't see how a loose rear sight can work out and the loctite solution doesn't seem like it's secure. I'll just keep using the factory rear sight as it is working out fine as long as my prescription glasses are doing their job...But the sight looks good - perhaps there are some KZfaq videos on this sight - I'll check that out...Best Regards

correct except the ramp is bottomed out and still shooting high. I had the same problem with my 92 and I bought a taller front sight for a few bucks now I have adjustability again.

elevator not ramp for any trolls that want to be know it alls. I've called it a ramp for years because to me it looks like a ramp.

dan luckman - Absolutely so...my gun shoots high, I do want the bullets to go lower so down the rear sight goes - but in my case all the way down with the rear sight and gun still shoots high. So solution is to get a taller front sight, but my dentist friend just ground the rear sight blade lower and recut the sighting notch - took him all of 10 minutes total to do with his high speed drill and diamond drill bits. And now the gun shoots on zero. The lower sights make for a nice cheek weld and low setup...Best to ya, FC