It was a very engaging discussion with Aslam Khawaja Sahib. Unfortunately, we don't have this breed of intellectual and courageous people. This is the result of persistent suppression of thoughts which has ended a balanced and moderate society.

What a personality. Living legend or should I say library. Thank you, Shahzad, for introducing such personalities with us.

I ABSOLUTELY loved this episode and how aslam khwaja sahab shared history of Pakistan with so much kindness and passion. What a beautiful storyteller and human being he is.

This man is a living library. We PTI people give you a lot of flak Shehzad, but there is no doubting the incredible passion and commitment that you give to this platform. This is incredible work. Disagreements notwithstanding, your service to elevating our political consciousness must be appreciated and respected. Keep it up.

I had a lump in my throat when he briefly talked about meeting his torturer again, and the entire discussion on "zaroori tou nahin kae loog mukamal toor par borae hain". Thank you for interviewing him Shezad, you guys are doing a fantastic job 🙏🙏. Definitely adding his book to my wishlist

Would love to see more of him on your show, absolutely loved how organic and sincere the discussion was

You're doing an amazing job, for people like us allergic to books this channel is a gold mine of knowledge

What an impressive person. Knowledge, memory, political acuity, generosity of spirit. Hope you bring him back for more.

You should have questioned him what did he feel as a so called progressive Zulfiqar supporter when he passed conservative laws like declaring Ahmediyas as Non-Muslims, banning alcohol etc. It would have been great to see what a learned supporter thought of these at that time.

Once again thank you shahzad for making me think beyond what was written in my school books and as child i always belived every word of it You are donig a great iob and a service to every pakistani . Thank you

Hats off to you for presenting Aslam Khawaja's point of view to the deaf and dumb millions in the country.

His conversation reminds of Sindh and my hometown Hyderabad. I am out of country for work right now and reminisce the amazing times that we had in Sindh whilst growing up. I wish Pakistan would have grown and none of its citizens have had to leave their homes, let alone the country, to live a normal safe life.

One of a very distinguished and a knowledgeable guest you got on the show. Very kind of him to share these experiences. Shehzad bhai you are building a library for pakistan which was long missing😅.

Good and knowledgeable interview and I am impressed of your preparation and knowledge. How you as a young man know the history up to this extent. Appreciated.

I’m really looking forward to this one. He lived through the history. Thank you

Loving personality and our country needs this type of leaders.

This episode is like Breaking Bad. Starts off slow and feels underated during the start but it picks up the pace and the intellect of Comrade Aslam Khwaja makes it the best ever episode that I have watched of the Pakistan experience.

I feel there is still more we could learn and just know through him so it would be really great if you call him again. Also the history of sindhi nationalists like Sheikh Ayaz, GM Syed and Rasoolbux Palijo isn't discussed much so it would also be interesting to know about that part of our History. You doing great work btw thanks Shehzad

No offense, but HIS narration felt like a dying tired voice of the segment of people in Pak who still can rationally think and knows history and fought for a secular Pakistan. Thank you so much for letting HIM speak uninterruptedly. Huge respect.

You and others like you gives me hope and optimism not only about Pakistan but for the whole world who are contributing according to their capacity even if it’s small , will make a huge difference one day. Shehzad keep up the amazing work you are doing!

With utmost respect let me add that Khuwaja Sahab has failed to mention the most potent political forces which were at the forefront of the struggle against Ziya's oppressive regime viz Awami Tahreek of Rasool Bux Palijo. Awami Tahreek's sister orgs Shindhiani Tahreek & Mazdoor Tahreek played an important role in the struggle, particularly in the MRD movement. Alongside PPP, Rasool Bux Palijo's pol organizations played a vital role. Thousands of their male and female workers were sent to jails and punished. This was the first time in Sindhi history, after the Hur struggle of the first half of the 20th century, that hundreds of women activists of Sindhiani Tahreek of Palijo were jailed and punished. -- Dr. Arbab Khuhawar's Watan Dost Mazdor federation and their student wing also played an important role in the MRD movement and against Ziya's martial law. --- Though Ziya tried to pamper the octogenarian leader GM Sayed. But GM Sayed's followers suffered a lot during the Ziya regime. Thousands were jailed and dozens were killed. -- Please bring some intellectuals who can think beyond party affiliation and give a multi-facet view of the struggle against the Z iya's regime. -- MRD movement in 1983 couldn't create big momentum in the other parts of Pakistan. The epicenter of the struggle was Sindh. Because The National & Democratic Question was extremely Sharp in Sindh . And, it created great momentum and mobilization in Sindh. 1983 impacted Sindhi literature as well. Thousands of Songs of Resistance were written and composed, and countless short stories were penned down that depicted the true picture of revolutionary zeal and pain and suffering, and racial profiling of Sindhis.

simply amazing!.. hoping more episodes can be done with Mr Aslam as guest. Great insight and info! ..keep up the amazing work Pakistan Experince

I'm gonna make a weird request but hear me out. You've got some archive-level stuff here. Stuff that can be used for research purposes. I'm sure you already have some backup of these interviews. But, in any case, if a day comes that you're pressurized to take down some content (or it's taken down regardless of your consent), please keep these interviews in store somewhere. I'm praying that nothing like that happens and you're safe n sound. But considering the fact-ose intolerance of the state, please keep such arrangements in place. With love 💕

I am so grateful to Mr. Aslam Khwaja Saheb. What a profound podcast and what an experience to share. Indeed a true comrade. He not only gave a different perspective on Bhutto Saheb as a leader but his comparison b/w the graves of Zia+Musharaf Vs. Bhutto sahwb & Edhi murhoom is indeed an eye opener.. One Request: Saien Shehzad Sheikh Saheb. With all due respect, please do one podcast on the extrajudicial killings of the Urdu Speaking community in urban Sindh. the 20k-29k citizen of urban sindh who got killed for some motives of state n a political party.. I'm not requesting you Saien 🙏 to make it pro- Altaf or MQM but invite someone like Khwaja saheb as a voice of for a community 'jinko koi poochne wala bhi nahin' 🙏

Thanks

Two Sindhis openly critiquing Bhutto , as a muhajir Urdu speaker I applaud your objectivity True healing of ethnic tensions can only happen in Pakistan if each ethnic group first puts their own leaders under the microscope

Greetings from India. So many never disclosed incidents are coming out from closet. Thank you for enriching terrible history of Pakistan

he seems very intellectual person. and pleasurable to hear

super good program. The Pakistan Experience is doing a fantastic job.

you have to have him back again. great podcast.

First of all, I would like to praise you for the work-exposing the truth-you are doing. In a country where the constitution does guarantee freedom of freedom expression under Article 19, but the state suffocates this right, exposing the truth is a very dangerous task altogether. I thank you for your work. Second, as you know Pakistan is a society where patriarchy is pervasive in every segment of the society. Women are unable to live a humane life here in the country. They have fought very hard to secure their rights even under the rule of dictators. People, here in the country, are not aware of these struggles. In this regard, I would love to see you making a podcast highlighting women struggle movements.

I became a fan of your podcasts a month ago. Big fan of Muzamil Shah and that’s how I found your channel. I have learned so much history in the past one month. Even though I’m a Khan support but listening to your podcasts I learned a lot. Not a blind follower anymore. Best place to learn about the history of Pakistan. Can I request a podcast? Whenever you get a chance can you please make a detailed video of how we(Pakistan) became a nuclear power? Thank you.

Isko lazmi sunain. Jon Jon sunty jain gy enjoy karain gy.

THANK YOU YOU MADE ME FEEL GOOD FELT I WAS WATCHING A MOVIE OF MY PAST LIFE I AM A PUJARI OF ZAB.

Heard Mr Aslam for the first time, he's such a great narrator while listening to him it felt like the entire history and Zia's era was playing like film infront of my eyes.

Very good discussion shehzad bhai

Loved every bit of it. Aslam Khawaja saheb has a treasure of knowledge and wisdom to share. Please invite him again to discuss some other part of his book.

Salute to Aslam Khuwaja !

Bro I am very inspired ur program format thanks to u giving such use full information knowledge abouts the history of pakistan 🇵🇰 thanks again Allah protect and blessed u

Zia's fascism was a joke compared to what is happening now a days. I am old enough who have seen his entire rise and fall till 17th August 1988.

dear Shehzad bhai,, I truly love your podcast like this one and also the funnier ones.. Keep doing it.. honest people like you are most needed in this country.. ❤

Invite Abrar of WildLens by Abrar. He has seen India in the last 30 days like no Pakistani has ever seen in many decades. He is highly diplomatic and politically correct, but if you can get him to open up, he can provide you in depth analysis of what works for India and what can be done in Pakistan. I am myself am Indian, but would like to know Abrar's thoughts, as he has travelled extensively in India by road and met hundreds of common people of my country. He is now in Pakistan. Hope you'll think about. Best wishes.

I have been following this channel for while now, and it is so underrated as compared to the content that you are producing, which shows our priorities as a nation. I am just dejected😢😢

Shehzaaad!! Chaa se gye ho! Aik k baad aik heera podcast!! You are turning me into a very knowledgable kaam wali. Like no one can fathom k bazahir bertan dhoti ye aurat apne airpods k thru kesi ghambeer guftagu ka hissa hai🤪 keep up the amazing work you're doin🙌🏻

Pakistanis Keep doing postmortem of all the influencial personalities who impacted their country except Gen Zia ul Haq. Would like to know the biography of this one person who has had the biggest impact on the country's future. 🙏 🙏

shehzad i want you to do full dedicated podcast for Asma jahangir... i think she is one of worlds bravest woman...

خواجہ صاحب کا یہ انٹرویو ایک تاریخی دستاویز ھے۔ تاھم ایک وضاحت ضروری سمجھتا ھوں کہ محترمہ فرخندہ بخاری صاحبہ ترقی پسند تحریک PWA جنرل سیکرٹری سید فارغ بخاری پشاور کی زوجہ نہیں تھیں۔ سیدطاھرعباس (صوبائی ڈپٹی سیکرٹری اطلاعات ' خیبرپختونخوا۔ ولد_سید فارغ بخاری و برادر سید قمرعباس ( شہید ) سابقہ سینئر نائب صدر و سینئر منسٹر

I watch a lot of Pakistani KZfaqrs. I think most Pakistanis lack HONESTY. Pakistan always had bloodless coup. What does it mean? It means the people have no love for democracy. So this fight is not for democracy. It is to put your favourite leader Imran Khan ji into the PM's chair & nothing else...

Listening to your great podcast. My salute to Aslam Khawaja Sir 🙏🙏

thank you Ada for sharing this !

One of the best, Shehzad Bhai!

He is really old but still can speak greatly.❤

Be RETRENCHED 80% dictator Decoit of pak ARMY belongs to Honourable PUNJAB Imperialism 3 LAKHS in FOUJI FOUNDATION Not paying TAXES looting in so called Cantonments area For security of Pakistan Justification Must Be made with Slaves Provinces SINDH BALUCHISTAN Saraiki in pak ARMY Quota by Retrenchment of Punjabi 80% dictator Decoit thanks from A HARD LUCK MOHAJIR Retired Abdul Qadir aged 77 years

VERY good THANKS REGARDS

Neither Zia Ul Haque was Shaheed, nor Z. A. Bhutto was Shaheed!!

There Are Hundreds Of Living Persons In The PRESENT DAY PAKISTAN, Who Were Educated In DHAKKA /MYMENSINGH/RAJSHAHI/CHITTAGONG. I AM ONE OUT OF THOSE WHO STUDIED AT D.U.

Why did Bhutto not support mujeeb ul Rehman for sake of democracy?

Good job bhai....❤

Really enjoyed... Such content will enrich posterity

Incredible

It is a phosphorous flare not a flash bomb. Creates bright light and comes down slowly because of the parachute.

Please note lots of Punjabi’s and muhajir were in Al zulfiqar The REAL resistance against Zia ul Baatil

🙏JAY SHREE KRISHN🙏

Ask these people to publish audible versions of their books

U deserve love & subscription

Great interview as always. Please invite Javed Ahmed Ghamidi. If he can’t try his prodigy Hasan Ilyas.

Greatest rug pull in the history, separation of Hindustan. As a South Indian i feel, India, Pak and Bangla would have been much more developed than what we are collectively right now.

While I agree with lot of things which Aslam keaja explained but disagree totoslly that pro China group supported army action in west Pakistan. Pro China group was lead by Mairaj & the next day after Bhutto returned from Dacca the Sindh committee mtg was held. We had a mtg b4 that & decided to oppose it. Since I was the youngest member of Sindh committee I was selected to start discussion & Mairaj bhai thought Bhutto sab won't be angry with me as I was nominated by him. Oh my God he was so angry when others also followed, he left the mtg & no resolution was passed as Bhutto waited . In next few days , on some other pretext we were all thrown out. I was General sec of women,swing & our stuff was thrown on the road side & were not allowed to enter office.

Informative

Muslims are not benaglis.Bengalis are proud hindus.Stop insulting Indian culture

Brilliant....brilliant podcast!

Love your wit and the ease with which you address important issues!! (@31.00)

have been listening to your podcast for the last more than a year and u r just amazing

Loved it bro! For once, I think a 2 hour podcast didnt do this guest justice. Bring him again please.

In 1986 peoples were looking Benazir as light at the end of Tunnel . I was also in Lahore . There were countless people in Lahore . Also remember population of Pakistan on that time was 8 or 9 crore not 24 crore . Benazir was also some time compromised but at the end that brave lady prfered to die

Plz have him comeback soon on the podcast to discuss about all of the leftover topics you mentioned at the end.

ہمیشہ انتظار رہتا ہے آپکی پوڈکاسٹ کا❤ ہمیشہ ایسے ہی کام کرتے رہیں صدا سلامت رہیں 😍

👇YE JARUR PADHE🙏 HINDUSTAN , PAKISTAN OR BANGLADES KE SABHI MUSLIM BHAI/BAHEN (SABHI FIRAKO KE) PAHELE HINDU THE.... USE APANE MUL HINDU DHARM ME VAPAS AANA CHAHIYE.... 🙏 OR SABHI HINDU/MUSLIM BHAI/BAHENO KO DIL SE , PURI MAHENAT SE YE KAM KARANA CHAHIYE.... 🙏 TABHI SUKH/SHANTI HOGI.... 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Bengal was far away. How much do you know about what is and has been happening in Baluchistan. We are a colonised state but no one has the courage to speak out against the colonisers. The media itself is and has been complicit in distorting truth within what is left of Pakistan.

Where did you buy the book? Cant find it

The guest Aslam Khawaja must have born in the year 1952, as per his memories and discussion and not the year 1962 as mentioned in your introductory note.

Again "behtreen" Shahzad. Tried many times to go to sleep but couldn't turned it off untill the end.

True Story😊

Plz invite kushal mehra to discuss the udea of hindtva and indian politics.🙏🙏🙏🙏

Bhutto delivered- destroyed education, destroyed industry, destroyed respect between a bus driver and a college students, divided people on sectarian grounds, divided country, failed at UN.

Sir, what is the name of your extremely esteem guest??? Again Sir,his introduction😢 his background is not at all enough . Sir your guest is a multiple folded chapters of Pakistan’s 🇵🇰 history.

Mashallah yaar, buhut maza aaya

Very interesting events by a man who is surprisingly not a member of PPP but a supporter. He defended PPP like a paid worker.

for god sake one can hang a artisty picture in the backgrounds. great podcast with equally depressing background.

I was very impressed by the personality but like any other Pakistani he has strong attachment to a party and in his case its PPP. Until the time when a question was asked about Why PPP did not do anything for the Sindh and instead of accepting the failure he was putting lame blame on others.

You are right thinking Koi bhii movement fail nahii hotii Wo agar 100 % result naa achieve karee too bhii apnaa assar choor jatii hee

The right title must be "The Brutality of Bhutto Fascism".

شکر ہے کسی جگہ سے سچ سننے کو مل رہا ہے

Please caption ko English mein convert krke upload kiya kare video

After the hanging of Bhutto there were widespread protests in Kashmir valley. People vented their anger on Jamaat Islami and their properties were burnt.

اگر ہمارے ادارے کرپٹ نہیں تھے یا ہے تو معیشت اس حالت تک کیسے پہنچی ہے۔ ذمےدار کون؟؟

Nationalism to chauvinism to facism is the actual path. Pakistan is not a nation state hence no question of facism. In fact Pakistan is country dominated feudal lords backed by armed forces.

پاکستان کے قیام کے بعد پاکستان کی سب سے بڑی آبادی بنگالی اور دوسری بڑی آبادی پنجابی تھے۔ پاکستان قائم کرنے کے لیے پنجاب تقسیم کرنے اور پنجاب کی تقسیم کے بعد نقل مکانی کی وجہ سے 20 لاکھ پنجابی مارے جانے جبکہ 2 کروڑ پنجابی بے گھر ھوجانے کے باعث پنجابیوں کے پاس پنجاب کی سطح کے سیاسی لیڈر تو تھے لیکن پاکستان کی سطح کا پنجابی لیڈر نہیں تھا۔ پاکستان کے صدر اور چیف مارشل لاء ایڈمنسٹریٹر پٹھان یحیٰی خان کی حکمرانی کے دور میں پاکستان کے پہلے عام انتخابات 1970 میں ھوئے۔ پنجابیوں نے 1970 کے الیکشن میں بنگالی شیخ مجیب الرحمٰن کے بجائے سندھی ذوالفقار علی بھٹو کو سپورٹ کیا۔ حالانکہ پنجابیوں کو 1970 کے انتخابات میں سندھی ذوالفقار علی بھٹو کے بجائے بنگالی شیخ مجیب الرحمٰن کو سپورٹ کرنا چاھیے تھا۔ کیا 1970 کے الیکشن میں پنجابیوں کے سندھی بھٹو کے بجائے بنگالی شیخ کو سپورٹ کرنے سے پاکستان کی سب سے بڑی قوم بنگالی اور پاکستان کی دوسری بڑی قوم پنجابی آپس میں سیاسی طور پر متفق اور متحد نہ ھو جاتیں۔ جبکہ؛ 01۔ مشرقی پاکستان کے بنگالی پاکستان سے الگ ھو کر مشرقی پاکستان کو بنگلہ دیش نہ بناتے۔ 02۔ پٹھان جنرل نیازی کو مشرقی پاکستان میں شکست تسلیم کرتے ھوئے پنجابی جنرل اروڑہ کے سامنے پاک فوج سے ھتھیار نہ ڈلوانے پڑتے۔ 03۔ مشرقی پاکستان اور مغربی پاکستان آپس میں متحد رھتے۔ 04۔ پاکستان پر بنگالیوں اور پنجابیوں کی حکمرانی قائم ھو جاتی۔ 05۔ پنجابی قوم کی طرف سے مشرقی پاکستان میں بنگالیوں کو سیاسی قوت فراھم ھوتی اور بنگالی قوم کی طرف سے مغربی پاکستان میں پنجابیوں کو سیاسی قوت فراھم ھوتی۔ 06۔ پنجابیوں اور بنگالیوں کو پٹھانوں ' بلوچوں ' ھندوستانی مھاجروں ' سندھیوں کی بلیک میلنگ سے نجات حاصل ھو جاتی۔ 07۔ مشرقی پاکستان کی قومی زبان بنگالی اور مغربی پاکستان کی قومی زبان پنجابی ھو جاتی۔ 08۔ بنگالیوں اور پنجابیوں کو زبان اور ثقافت کے فروغ کا حق ملنے سے بنگالیوں اور پنجابیوں کی سماجی عزت ھونے لگتی۔ 09۔ بنگالیوں اور پنجابیوں کو حکمرانی کا حق ملنے سے بنگالیوں اور پنجابیوں کی انتظامی بالادستی ھونے لگتی۔ 10۔ پاکستان کی عوام کو معاشی خوشحالی ملنے لگتی۔ 11۔ پاکستان کی اقتصادی ترقی ھونے لگتی۔ 12۔ پاکستان سیاسی؛ سماجی ' معاشی ' انتظامی ' اقتصادی طور پر مستحکم اور مضبوط ملک ھوتا۔

I have been watching your podcasts for a while now, and now I am feeling depressed. I'm unable to digest the reality of this country.😢

Such a great thinking episode... Thanks