Zipp 3Zero Moto Wheel Review - The Best MTB and eMTB Wheels Out?

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The Loam Wolf

The Loam Wolf

Күн бұрын

When we first pulled our new Zipp 3Zero Moto carbon wheels out of the box a lot of thoughts ran through our minds. Sure, there are some big claims and skeptics (ourselves included) may doubt the quirky marketing verbiage, but after seeing the amount of drip and style these wheels pack, we were convinced if the performance was half as good as the looks, they would still be some bad ass wheels. We instantly mounted these wheels on our 2021 Specialized Levo with the intention of pushing them are hard as we could to see if Zipp’s Moto Technology, localized flex and “Ankle compliance” were indeed perceivable on the trail.
Built using a unistitch carbon weave, these wheels have an aesthetic that command attention. The finish is smooth and attractive. Looks are not the only thing that make the Zipp 3Zero Moto wheels unique. Featuring an asymmetrical design, 30mm inner width, the 3Zero Moto’s sport a low-profile design that is very reminiscent of motorcycle wheels, which makes sense given their name. While most mountain bike wheels use a hollow D-shaped, box section design, Zipp uses single-wall construction and is an integral part of their Moto Technology. What makes these wheels unique is that the design allows the rims to pivot from either side of the spoke bed. This means that as the bike is rolling over uneven terrain or angled obstacles, the edge of the rim will comply and flex with the impact or terrain. Zipp calls this “Ankle compliance,” and if you think about how a runner’s ankle flexes as they run around a flat turn, it is much the same with these wheels. Zipp claims that the rim can flex locally to stay parallel with the ground which in theory should help with traction, compliance, and smoothing out the ride.
The compliant and classy rims are laced to Zipp’s ZM2 hub set, which are German engineered hubs featuring 12 pawls and 132 points of engagement. The hubs also feature an improved seal design to increase durability and resist contamination from outside elements. Another great feature which we did not test is the integration with Quarq’s TyreWiz. This Bluetooth compatible accessory allows you to set your preferred tire pressure on the app and will light the display on the unit to let you know you have reached your desired tire pressure.
If you would like to further customize your wheels Zipp’s Speed Line graphics are available and give you the choice of five colors to make the wheels really stand out or match your bike. And if looks, promises of performance and customizability are not enough to lure you in, perhaps the Zipp Lifetime Warranty will push you over the goal line, as it really increases the value in our opinion.
Moving on to the performance however, once we hit the trails, we instantly knew there was something special about these mountain bike wheels. From our first ride on the Zipp 3Zero Moto Carbons, it was apparent that the claims about flex, compliance and enhanced traction were very real. Knowing that E bikes put extra stress on components we mounted these wheels straight onto our Specialized Levo and proceeded to beat the crap out of them. Over the last several months we have put hundreds of miles in on these wheels primarily on very loose dry desert terrain with embedded a loose lava boulder. The unique design has allowed our riders to find traction where they would normally be drifting, and the compliance has given our feet and hands the strength to push harder for longer.
When it comes to the construction of the internals of the hub and wheels, we have no complaints, and they still look as good as they did out of the box. Engagement is quick and natural we like how snappy the wheels feel and although they may not be the lightest on the market, they are reliable and spin well. Plus, we would gladly take a slight weight penalty for the increased ride quality and confidence of a lifetime warranty.
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@tmwei396
@tmwei396 Жыл бұрын
I have these wheel set and I love them. I didn't have problems mounting Maxxis Dissector and Recon on them.
@Dirtymutt9
@Dirtymutt9 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a set of these wheels in 29. They are fantastic! Did you use an air compressor when mounting your tires? I mounted maxxis double down tires no problem. Wheels aren't the lightest but they offer significant improvements in handling through rough trails. The added rear end grip while climbing is also very noticeable.
@MTBFlowRider
@MTBFlowRider 2 жыл бұрын
Did you run your psi different with these wheel set than you would normally?
@reubenbacon9156
@reubenbacon9156 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a vid on running the kenevo. Sl as a mullet? Would be keen to hear your thoughts on it. Only thing putting me off buying one is that it’s full 29 out the box
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose now that you've asked us we need to! We put them on just for our own testing and curiosity, but we think it'll be worth doing for sure.
@dansands6236
@dansands6236 2 жыл бұрын
What about running insert? Think cushcore would work on these?
@musicjnky1982
@musicjnky1982 2 жыл бұрын
These are perfect for a hardtail
@fathertime209
@fathertime209 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts about a wheel set like this with a box one stealth hubs?
@ChefIan73
@ChefIan73 2 жыл бұрын
Have you used these with Cushcore?
@danielmaduell3655
@danielmaduell3655 Жыл бұрын
What about these wheels for a big (and heavy) rider (95kg) on an full power ebike like a 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo? Are they stiff enough? or maybe too compliant? The type of riding would be enduro, nothing too extreme...
@keithkreatives
@keithkreatives 2 жыл бұрын
Dangit. I was all excited about this when he offered a discount code. Competative Cyclist only has the rear wheel in stock, and they don't make mention of the fact it's a previous generation model. Look closely, and you'll find its the ZM1 hub, instead of the newer ZM2, which has been redesigned and more points of engagement.
@cheres79
@cheres79 2 жыл бұрын
How about the performance with cush core pro for example? Does it take away the benefits of this wheel?
@macropod
@macropod Жыл бұрын
Also seeking an answer to this.
@stevevazquez751
@stevevazquez751 2 жыл бұрын
Think I could ride these in rough downhill terrain? I was thinking of purchasing these or the we are one strife.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we think so. Braydon Bringhurst, Canyon rider, is regularly going huge on his wheels and loves them.
@yohidai
@yohidai 2 жыл бұрын
6:02 ZM2 hub sound
@rickthiel
@rickthiel Жыл бұрын
Don't waste your money on these wheels. I fell for the hype. I liked them... until the rims cracked after 4 weeks (Easy, early season trail riding , and not an ebike) . Heavier than the alloy rims I thought I was replacing. Keep a backup wheelset! As I write this, I'm still waiting on Zipp to "assess" the wheel - 6 weeks so far.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that, but we appreciate you sharing the feedback and informing others. Whether or not the wheel is a warranty or not, 6-weeks seems like a really long time to wait...we hope they find out there was some sort of manufacturing defect that caused such premature failure and take care of you!
@kovyrshinv
@kovyrshinv Жыл бұрын
Any update on the process?
@rickthiel
@rickthiel Жыл бұрын
@@kovyrshinv It took 9 weeks to finally get a replacement wheel. According to bike shop, the spokes were over tensioned. Of coarse, the season is coming to a close in CO - won’t know if they can make it more than 4 weeks until next season. Wasn’t aware Lifetime Warranty meant the time to g et a replacement for a defective wheel.😕
@kangsterizer
@kangsterizer 7 ай бұрын
@@rickthiel still have em?
@rickthiel
@rickthiel 7 ай бұрын
2nd season started with a bad freehub . This time the turnover time was much smoother. So...Yes I still have them - along with replacement wheels ;)
@marloncordova9006
@marloncordova9006 2 сағат бұрын
Can warrantee cover second owner
@thim8009
@thim8009 2 жыл бұрын
Always though about carbon wheels, but always end up with dt swiss aluminum. I would rather stick money into suspension and brakes. I'm more of the guy that gets expert, not s works, maybe when I win lotto.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad way to go at all!
@stevecabrera6718
@stevecabrera6718 2 жыл бұрын
I dont get why something is e bike rated. People swear that another 30 lbs is major. The average 5 riders will vary in weight like 50 lbs!
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, you bring up a great point, and while some components really don't change when it comes to having an E rating or not, others actually do. Some prime examples are forks and hubs/freehubs and spokes/wheels. Sure a 200lb rider on an analog bike will put more strain on a bike than a 160lb rider, BUT, will that 200lb rider be riding 4 days a week and averaging 15-20 miles per ride? Probably not. From our conversations with brands it's less about strength or stiffness and more about longevity! Having forks that don't develop play, hubs that handle torque and spin for twice or triple the amount of miles is not a bad thing to us. Does an "E" handlebar or dropper post make a difference? Probably not. haha, but we'd definitely pick E rated products where it counts.
@stevecabrera6718
@stevecabrera6718 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf ahhhh thats actually super cool and im honestly impressed and relived brands are producing with that level of ethics in mind. It makes perfect sense though thank you for your explanation.
@SomeGuyOnHisDreamBike
@SomeGuyOnHisDreamBike 5 ай бұрын
The weak point is the freehub. It died on first year, while I am a really light and slow rider. Rebuilt it, it starts to die after the second year. Will change the freehub
@rafakwiatkowski7907
@rafakwiatkowski7907 Ай бұрын
Do you have new ZM2 hubs or old ZM1?
@AntiDEDok
@AntiDEDok 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! "We couldn't mount the most popular Minion tyre on this rim. That's a bit of a downside". I thought that's pretty much of a downside, to be honest!
@speckdratz
@speckdratz 2 жыл бұрын
Alrighty folks, this set is $1999. Off to the next video! 🙈
@pavanpatil8907
@pavanpatil8907 2 жыл бұрын
My low end bike costs as much as those tyres!
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@pavanpatil8907 Yeah we reviewed 5 bikes last year in our Sub 2k Roundup that all cost as much... and rode great.
@abelramos8652
@abelramos8652 2 жыл бұрын
Good carbon stuff is expensive. Whats not fair is some brands selling true composite crap at 1k and hey is carbon too but cheaper! Some people paid 1k for an iPhone for wassap and selfies… Its not necessary at all but good carbon wheels are noticeable, but not 2k noticeable depends on your wallet and how much you “love” to ride or how fast.
@doooderino
@doooderino 2 жыл бұрын
Since I know 2 people that own a set and both have broken a wheel. I’ll pass.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thank you for sharing Justin. Would be curious to know the circumstances or impacts that led to the breakage. Our testing was without issue and the many riders we've talked to, from intermediate to the likes of Braydon Bringhurst, have all been very pleased.
@musicjnky1982
@musicjnky1982 2 жыл бұрын
Lifetime warranty 🙄
@keithkreatives
@keithkreatives 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's pretty dang odd.
@jamble7k
@jamble7k 2 жыл бұрын
@@musicjnky1982 doesn't help you when on a bike trip or in the middle of a ride lol
I wish I could change THIS fast! 🤣
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