Wasn't Coke.. It was Coffee

@@ZReviews that’s what all coffee addicts are saying "wan’t the coke man, it’s the coffee"

Yea both the open and the closed are endgame level technicalities and tonalities which is quite insane, you don't have to sacrifice tonality to get endgame technicalities.

Congrats bro. I do have a big collection but for me it's the verite closed and stax l700 and he 1000se. I thought the atrium was close to the verite closed but the verite closed has better technicalities, so I didn't get them. Saying that I could clearly understand why someone would love it, it's breath taking just like the verite closed, but I'm more about technicalities. I feel like I'm all set for life lol, exactly where you are right now lol.

@Lagunakid24 I do have the lcd xc and indeed it's heavy. And honestly I do prefer the Sony MDR Z1R to the lcd xc I know that might sound crazy, but I like it's grand and cozy sound. Dynamic drivers sound better when closed than planars in my opinion. I do use the lcd i3 for my on the go planar needs. But honestly nothing touches the verite closed, it's natural and extremely technical it's just unreal that these two characteristics gets featured in one headphone. It's endgame level regardless of headphone type and I do have stax so that says a lot about the verite closed. I wasn't a fan of Zack's previous headphones, timbre was awesome but they lagged a bit behind in technicalities, the verites are just stupid when it comes to technicalities it's fast fast, dynamic, extremely detailed, in fact the closed is more detailed than the open and the open is more detailed than the atrium.

No. Get a set of empyreans. Then you can be done. I have atrium, verite open and closed, empyrean offers a completely different experience. Everything just sounds great. Doesn't matter what it is, it's just sounds great.

VC + Atrium combo is pure endgame bliss. I know there's better headphones in a variety of categories, but there's not a better overall package.

Get a pair of H390s and THEN we can talk about quality (am I doing the whole gatekeepign thing right)

You are severely missing out if you're a fan of this hobby. I was skeptical too, but the Verite Closed completely blew me away. Ill be getting the Atrium in the future, probably one of the limited edition ones.

yeah I agree I just got an old pair of lcd2s but my pads are peeling the outer layer so I want to pick up some new ones but have to do my research on whats good

This mulfuckuh thinks this is dekoni’s KZfaq or something

I requested and they already obliged! I will announce when they are available. PaPa Zeos lookin' out.

@@ZReviews Amazing dude, nice work, I've been asking them for months.

Ever try the micro-suede or XL Perfs on VCs? I'm curious how they'd take

With VCs you mean Vérité Closed? I don't have that expensive headphones unfortunately. But I feel the Brainwavz XL Micro sued soften and/or reduce the highs a bit. I didn't feel like I missed something it was super relaxed on the MMX300 but in an A-B comparison you would notice reduced highs I think. Bass is still solid. The Perforated effect is a bit more complex I think. They do something to the highs that is more complicated. I thought of reducing high reverb in some headphones, at least compared to solid PU or Sheepskin Pads. Unless the headphone has no problem with that, than they don't do much there? And they do things to the bass. But it's surely not like Headphones can't be bassy with it, oh no. I once put Brainwavz XL Perf with an good 3D printed Adapter on the SHP-9500 and it was crazy amounts of bass. Not good quality, just maxed out the quantity. No recommendation, but surprising experience pad wise.

Yeah pads are unpredictable.

intresting question i also saw zach recommends the caldera ultra perf on the atrium in many forums,lets see what zeos says :)

Keyword here is SEW

That's my fear as well. I think my expectations are going to far exceed how good they sound. I feel like it's more like buying a work of art because of how good they look and how well made they are and I'll end up disappointed. Also It seems like Z didn't love the first set he tried, nor this set, until he started swapping pads.

​@@redstang5150 Yea, I hope he gives them another try and we get a second round of impressions.

@@redstang5150 I ordered my Verite Closed without ever hearing any ZMF cans and I absolutely do not regret it. They are good on solid state and just flat out great on tubes.

First step is to learn to read frequency response graphs, CSDs, impulse response graphs etc as well as THD, impedance curve etc so you know the amp requirements and you have a very good picture of what it sounds like without even hearing it

ZMF headphones are generally well regarded. The Vérité, despite its rather strange tuning, is known for its technicalities. ZMF headphones aren't overpriced junk like Grado and Meze

68 minutes. Details Matter

Always laugh when he mentions a specific time

Pls do post your take here. I just ordered 2 days ago with leather stock and hybrid auteur, also got stock Aeolus lying about. I am likely not getting mine before August so if it will be good to know if I want to tinker with my order.

You can't make me answer

But he is our Madman, so there is that.

Did I? Damn.

Oh good I feel better.

November probably

If you think VO and verite pads most technical and detailed wait till you heard the 1266 tc or susvara

@@nicktan4530 1266 is, the Susvara isn't. The overall balance and tuning of the VC is better than the Susvara. And the comical build quality of the Hifiman isn't even comparable to the build comfort and warranty of ZMF. ZMF is the best in world, all things considered, and it's not even close. Abyss prices are just laughable.

@@disco4535 Am sorry, susvara is the more detailed and technical acomplished

@@nicktan4530 Lol ok. I sold my Susvara and kept my Hek V2 because the resolve, decay and speed was just as good with significantly better bass extension slam and subbass. The Susvara had better midbass detail and texture. Sold my Stellias and kept my VC, will probably sell my Utopias and get a pair of stabilized Atriums in November if the detail and imaging is close, as ZMF timre will be more natural as usual. Resolve, speed, sparkle and airyness are not detail or "technical accomplished". Also timbre is a massive factor that Hifiman is inadequate in. Would love to see Zach release his rendition of a planar and bury Hifiman's dirt quality.

@@disco4535 that is most based on sound signature preference. No, zmf house sounr based on dynamics and planner has a different tonality. But anyway what amp did you run on the sus ?

realy i already ordered them are you sure you talking about the same ones? and can you describe more?

I own both. Atrium all day when properly amped. I remember when I first got my Atriums I didn't put on the meze for almost a month.

@@palefaced1 Cool! What amp are you using? I'm running an Ifi Zen Dac (when traveling) and a Drop THX 789 when at home. Would both be sufficient? What do you love about the Atrium over the Empys?

Yeah, you're getting just... more everything for your money with the Atrium.

Regarding hearing more in music due to a better headphone, I recently did this with the Austrian Audio x-65, which has insane detail (Focal clear level, allegedly) and crazy imaging and separation of instruments. It is a neat party trick, and interesting to hear different instruments especially if you are into acoustic/classical or more analogue music. I am glad I only spent the 400 bucks on those headphones for that experience. As an amateur musician myself, it sounds unnatural and not how music is supposed to be experienced, though it will help with making recordings of my music. I wonder if these $2500+ headphones fix this issue, bring musicality and detail/imaging together in a nice package or is it just more of the same.

@@chungang7037 yep, sort of a musician myself, and this is apparently a leitmotif in the field. From a technical standpoint, it is amazing how much HPs can be a world unto themselves but when music is what I want, a lot of detail also brings out noise and artifacts :)

@@masterxyr oh man, it is so true. I tried the x-65 with some classic rock albums I used to enjoy as a kid and all I heard was artifacts and issues. With acoustic stuff, a mixed bag, but I realized I don't need to hear a soloist adjust their posture in their seat or a guy's watch or ring to clack against their instrument. It makes me wonder if the people who love analytical/detail monster headphones are into electronica/synthetic music where I I usually hear less of that

​@@chungang7037 yeah, we need to keep 'bad' HPs to listen to poorly recorded stuff haha. I noticed I began listening to super well-recorded music only because/for the headphones. I'm mostly over that phase, as unfortunately, the majority of what I like is not super audiophile. As to folks and detail, I actually believe many really enjoy the audio side of things. Listening to instruments and sounds in a way I don't but get a similar pleasure out of it. Diana Krall is nice but it ain't super nice hehe

@@masterxyr Diana Krall, yes, I often forget that people listen to a lot of vocals in music (I don't really). I think reviewers almost need to talk more about what hp are good for instruments and for vocals, because the two rarely seem to be done well by one hp. The meze Elite and Empy are supposed to be the best of the "bad" hp like that for badly recorded stuff, but while I see them in the shop and think about demoing them I haven't yet, kinda scared I will like it! lol

Def won't fit these. Those are smol

@@ZReviews Oh, I see, these Atriums must be over 105mm of width. Thx for response anyways.

Try all the things on all the things.

I'd need them again. Maybe a special edition?

@@ZReviews calling on African Blackwood VO owners.... anybody?

I figured that was a given But yes. I recommend anything I gave a 9 to. 8's a bit more specific.

Simulated Surround on pc is inferior to stereo. I beat the shit out of friends using surround in CoD all the time. Much more accurate imaging and audio queues

I mean he was Bad, and he told me to Beat it. What do you expect of a Smooth Criminal.

Just ask Zach; he can tell you which pads produce a specific sound. Zeos is making the process more complicated because, well, you know, he's Zeos and he likes to pad swap.

This sounds similar to people who think you shouldn’t need to eq headphones. All headphones should have a baseline with the ability to sound good for the general public. The problem is everyone has different ears. Different shapes, hear different frequencies. So with pad swapping and eq you can adjust the headphones to make them excel for what sounds best to you. Most people find these agreeable stock. There is no guarantee you will. Some headphones you will either like them or be stuck with that sound. Others like zmf give you tuning options.

@@dougquesnel5613 Nah - EQ is free and infinitely adjustable - I always use some EQ. I get that my comment reads a little too angsty, it was intended more as a poke at how crazy Z can be with the negativity for how "bad" headphones can sound with the stock pads the designer provided.

@@redstang5150 Zach actually posted a graph of how zeos changes the frequency response and it is a huge bass boost. Though Zeos did like the ekon suede on the vc.

You don’t

Everyone is free to believe what they want about his motivations, but to me he seems to just be an authentic enthusiast. And he doesn't praise EVERY pair of headphones.

@@redstang5150 yes he does. At the end of each video he says “these are the best I’ve ever heard go out and buy them that’s it.” Because he makes money on every pair through his affiliate links.

@@tweedpenguin712 Nah, you're generalizing, but I can understand people thinking that. His praise almost always comes with some sort of caveat, and again, he doesn't love absolutely everything. However, you have to be aware of his enthusiasm and not make any purchase decisions on his word alone. And as I said before, if you think he's just a lying shill, you're free to do that, but then why watch him at all? As someone who now has over 10 sets of headphones I can understand that to a degree. I like, or have an appreciation for all of mine even though they are all different and of different quality levels. I like changing up what set I am using every so often because my ears get too accustomed to the sound of a particular set and I find it entertaining to switch things up and readjust to different sets.

@@redstang5150 just use EQ and you will save money lmfao. 10 pairs of headphones don’t have 10 different sounds. I can watch him if I want and criticize him if I want and share my opinions if I want. Nobody has to ask me for my opinions or any nonsense like that.

@@tweedpenguin712 Different headphones don't sound different? LOL. They certainly do - if you don't think that then again, why on earth would you be interested in Zeos reviewing different headphones? Why do you think he as a wall full of them? And you ASKED A QUESTION, to which I responded. Who said you couldn't criticize him? I never said you couldn't criticize him or share your opinions - have at it. You are free to have your opinion and I am free to agree or disagree. If you don't want to have a discussion then don't post a question.

They don’t. This is someone’s personal opinion and insight.

@@dougquesnel5613 lol it’s literally everyone’s personal opinion that reviews these things.

@@tweedpenguin712 and…..?

@@tweedpenguin712 it’s one persons opinion. It is not a fact you need cheap pads from a different company to sound good. So nothing is ridiculous. How hard is that to understand

@@dougquesnel5613 I’m saying the pad rolling thing is fact and to spend 70 dollars for pads from ZMF is ridiculous