ZODIAS VS EXPRIDE - SHIMANO FISHING RODS

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JP DeRose

JP DeRose

Күн бұрын

In this video I compare the Shimano Expride to the latest Shimano Zodias line of freshwater rods. I walkthrough the models available and the technologies used in each series and give my personal opinion on them as well.
Correction * Expride Casting is available from 6'6" - 9'11""
#FishShimano #Zodias #Expride

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@fishwithoutfear8970
@fishwithoutfear8970 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I forgot to sub previously. If anyone deserves it it's Mr. DeRose. Thanks for the breakdown JP. Both amazing lines of rods.
@christopherau7292
@christopherau7292 2 жыл бұрын
To the point and great information shared! Thanks as always JP.
@mikepuusa6084
@mikepuusa6084 2 жыл бұрын
Good breakdown JP. In the market myself. Thinking 7.1 MH expride for all around one rod does it all
@victorsimonsen921
@victorsimonsen921 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comparision
@bassinbilliards6279
@bassinbilliards6279 2 жыл бұрын
My day to day is Zodias old models and new. My expride 7med spinning I use mostly at Clearlake throwing 4" senkos and it does the job perfectly.
@DavidBronstein1961
@DavidBronstein1961 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, binged on several vids. Great content! Question: I’m a kayak guy and prefer sub-7’ casting rods. Have my eye on the 6’8” or 6’10 MH for swim jigs, chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, maybe even some light frogging. Question: I love me a somewhat moderate tip that loads well for accurate casting. But worried that sub-7’ models lose a bit of that tip flexibility? That warranted or do you think the shorter rods will work for me? (Zodias or Expride). Thanks, and I’m no longer in the 90% bracket!
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Tough to find a sub 7' rod with enough power for those techniques that have the parabolic bend that glass gives. I have tried the 7'2" MHGB model and it does a good job but a high speed reel is recommended to keep tight. I find it tough to beat a Medium Heavy, Fast action blank for those techniques because the hook diameter is rather large in the baits. For me, it's a 72MHB but there is also a 610MHB you may want to check out.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
BTW, those rods are available in Expride, Zodias and Curado rod series
@edwardmarshall8795
@edwardmarshall8795 6 ай бұрын
I have 6 Expride spinning rods and 2 Zodias spinning rods I bought the Zodias only because they stopped making the Expride 6.8” in Medium Heavy the back bone on that rod is so good it’s crazy and also the sensitivity I hope they come back with the Expride in 6.8” Medium Heavy. (Shimano please)
@whateutube
@whateutube 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 5 ай бұрын
No problem
@anderson8869
@anderson8869 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Looking at the Zodias spinning rods but will the guides pass a braid to leader knot or are they micro guides? Also, I'm not a casting guy, spinning only. Would the 7ft medium-heavy handle a 1/2oz frog fished in light cover? Thanks again!
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Guides are not Micro and the MH would be fine but light cover or open water with toads would be far better than trying to hook up on a weedless frog that has big hooks
@anderson8869
@anderson8869 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors thanks for your response. Would you go with the 7ft or 7ft-3" medium-heavy? Mostly fishing from a small boat and would like to use this rod for 3/8oz spinnerbaits too. Thanks again, much appreciated.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@anderson8869 7'3" will give you better casting distance and hooksetting power.
@anderson8869
@anderson8869 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Just got the Zodias 7ft ML, 7ft M & 7ft-3" MH. Have 3000 size Vanford's on the ML & M but wanted to go Twin Power FD 4000 on the MH. The Twin Power feels incredible but the bail wire hits my knuckles every revolution. Just for comparison I tried the Vanford 4000 & Stradic FL 4000, no issues. Those bail wires come close but no contact. I'd love to keep the Twin Power but can't seem to figure this out..... any ideas?
@krr6581
@krr6581 2 жыл бұрын
I have two older Zodias rods and two new Zodias rods with the monocoque handles. There is a big difference in the feel and sensitivity with the newer model. I like both models but the newer models gets my nod.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Love hearing that real world feedback!
@613BASS_N
@613BASS_N 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks JP! this is great! - 613 BASS'N
@bruceraiken2806
@bruceraiken2806 2 жыл бұрын
JP - all of your videos are done so well - your passion translates along with solid info. Thank you! This was spinning, but I have decided to try one casting outfit for grass pitching (taking a page from Seth Feider), using a MH power rod (fast) with braid line. Normally I go straight FC. I have been eyeing over the 7'2 MH Casting in the Expride and the Zodias. Cost is less the issue, but I think with maybe 30# braid to 17# FC leader, a softer tip (even though fast action) might be better than a stiffer one. Is there a noticeable difference in the tip sections of these 2 models? And on these casting rods which rate up to an ounce - do you feel they can handle a 3/4oz jig or T-rig, or maybe only 5/8th? Thanks for your help!
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kudos Bruce. I lean towards more parabolic rods when using braid over fluoro for flipping and pitching as I find the extra bend helps not rip the hook out of the fish. The difference between the Expride and the Zodias is the carbon they use. Expride is lighter and a bit faster than the Zodias in the same model. That said, I would have no issues using either for your mentioned application however for sensitivity, the new Zodias with the Monocoque handle may have an advantage over the current Expride and most likely would be easier to find as Expride has been very scarce for some time due to popularity.
@Unspoke
@Unspoke 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I’m new to these fishing terms. When you say that the Zodias blank is not fast as the Expride in recovery rate, what does that mean? Also, can you explain what you mean by crisp?
@vash347
@vash347 2 жыл бұрын
It means the rod doesn't center itself as fast. That's called the action of the rod... A stiff rod usually has faster action, which means it snaps back straight quickly
@CoolWhipp-hy1qu
@CoolWhipp-hy1qu 2 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to the mega bass levante and orochis? Been looking at getting either mega bass or shimano but can’t decide. Something for dropshotting is what I’m after.
@tylucifer9865
@tylucifer9865 2 жыл бұрын
Orochi rods are very sensitive with high quality parts. I have the Enforcer Orochi and I use it for dropshotting, super sensitive. I feel every nibble even with so much slack in my line. But I do know that a lot of people like the 7ft Medium Expride. Lots of people go with that. I haven’t tried Levante rods yet. I have a Zodias and it feels very nice. Not as sensitive as the Orochi but it still gets the work done. I don’t really have a say if the Orochi is better than Expride but I think Exprides are the best bang for the buck. They should be put in the 300-400$ range.
@KennyRiley
@KennyRiley 3 ай бұрын
Broke the tip on my Zodias after 3years 😠 It was an excellent rod! I ended upgrading to Expride. It's so light, now my reel feels too heavy 🤔😩 Great comparison video!
@jacob.1684
@jacob.1684 2 жыл бұрын
If you were gonna pick a zodias for only fishing a ned rig would you pick the med light or light ive never used a rod that light so idk what to get. If you have a better rod brand you'd recommend for a ned rig rod please let me know?
@goldlicker4326
@goldlicker4326 2 жыл бұрын
It is up to the weight of the ned rig head and cover To be honest, i have a med light 7ft spinning and i dont have any issue with it. I can pull up anything from crappie to catfish without worrying about breaking
@zechcole9455
@zechcole9455 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Cardiff A or Corvalus due for an update anytime soon? Been really hoping a more budget friendly round reel.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I have not heard anything about either of those reels unfortunately Zech. Sorry!
@zechcole9455
@zechcole9455 2 жыл бұрын
You should just throw out the idea of a Curado round reel, at this point no one would be against it, considering we now have one for every application. Discontinue the lower end round reels and start fresh with a trusted name, trickle down some tech and you have an affordable round reel for everyone. Could work 👍🏽
@user-ey2te5vs3z
@user-ey2te5vs3z 3 ай бұрын
Excellent review. You know your stuff. Love my expride casting and looking for either a Zodias or pride spinning for another addition. Wish Shimano had of gone 7 ft 3 instead of 7 ft 2 on their casting. I can notice the difference and a little uncomfortable in the 7.2 med heavy casting. Like my Dobyns 7.3 better. Other then that these Exprides are very crisp like you mentioned. Just a little pricey 😢
@raytubach8988
@raytubach8988 2 жыл бұрын
So would the increased cost for the sensitivity of the expride be worth it in comparable zodias glass models?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Tough call really as I find them both pretty good and I reserve increased blank sensitivity for jig rods and rods where I'm trying to feel structure and bottom. I really like the Zodias cranking rods and with the new monocoque handle the sensitivity is very comparable to Expride.
@jaysoncayetano2438
@jaysoncayetano2438 2 жыл бұрын
JP - I love the expride but I'm looking for a 7'6MH moderate for cranking but expride doesn't offer Moderate on 76mh.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
The best bet would be the IMX Pro 906C CBR or the new Curado rod CDC74MHGA both will do the trick. The IMX Pro is one of my favorites but I have heard amazing things about the new Curado cranking rods. Closest they can get you is 7'4" but may be perfect for what you are doing
@jaysoncayetano2438
@jaysoncayetano2438 2 жыл бұрын
Curado cranking you think is better than zodias 76mh moderate?
@jgf1sh1ng74
@jgf1sh1ng74 2 жыл бұрын
Hey JP! Would you go with Poison Adrena over Expride? I have a Zodias 7'6 M.H Glass for crankbaits, 7'6 Expride M.H Fast (I use both when I'm on my boat) but looking for something I could use when I'm bank fishing. Do you think the Poison Adrena 7'3 MH "Regular-fast" would be a good all-around rod?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great rod, higher end than Expride as it uses Spiral X Blanks with Nano Resin Core and has the monocoque handle. I don't think you will go wrong with either but the two are definitely not the same. Adrena is a higher end rod with higher end tech.
@jgf1sh1ng74
@jgf1sh1ng74 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors thank you and for the video! I'm new to fishing and trying to complete my setup little by little. Are you familiar with Shimano's "regular fast" is it same as "moderate fast"? The reason I asked is I watched your other video on rod tapers.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@jgf1sh1ng74 I have never seen regular fast as a rating on our North American models. Which county is this seen in?
@jgf1sh1ng74
@jgf1sh1ng74 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors I saw this on fish.shimano and also available at tacklewarehouse, ebay and other tackle store. It would say "Reg-fast". I thought it meant "moderate fast". Then again I just started fishing and still learning.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@jgf1sh1ng74 never even noticed that before... See... You just taught me something! Lol. Based on ratings it's probably moderate fast as they have Regular, Regular Fast and Fast. I'm thinking regular replaces moderate but I'm really just guessing.
@nawinchester
@nawinchester 2 жыл бұрын
JP, I love the Expride 7' Med, maybe my favorite all around spinning rod at any price. Ridiculously sensitive and light. That said, I was looking at the new Zodias 7'6" spinning rod, wonder if you believe that would be a good hair jig rod, where sensitivity isn't as important as castability, which is needed to get the hair jig away from the boat. There are two models, a light power and a medium power, thoughts on which one would be a better hair jig rod for smallmouth? Thanks again for the content, great stuff. Look forward to your reply.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I actually have been fishing the 7'6" light for a year and love it. It will be great at fluff (hair), I use it for 2.8" Rhythm Wave on 1/8 jig head, it will also work well for spybaits... It's not as parabolic as most spybait rods like the Loomis 901JWR. Very crisp rod, good sensitivity and and extremely fast action with enough backbone. It's a winner for me
@nawinchester
@nawinchester 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors sold. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
@nawinchester
@nawinchester 2 жыл бұрын
@JP DeRose I have the 7'6" L coming this week. Can't wait! Getting to be that time in the northeast where hair jigs are coming back in vogue... :-)
@613BASS_N
@613BASS_N 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Good to read, have been waiting on this exact rod all year - can't wait!
@davidvanmaanen-icperch2797
@davidvanmaanen-icperch2797 2 жыл бұрын
Haha cool that you already stated that the expride should get that monocoque handle too… and it happens just shortly after releasing this video
@davidwalker6194
@davidwalker6194 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review well explained. thank you.72
@tims_always_fishing7117
@tims_always_fishing7117 6 ай бұрын
I love my old zodias with eva and gen 1 exprides, really want to find a 2018 split cork curado in 7'2 mh casting.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Have you tried the newer gen Curado rods? They are very similar to the first generation Zodias rod series
@tims_always_fishing7117
@tims_always_fishing7117 6 ай бұрын
@JPDeRoseOutdoors yes I have 3 of them, just like the look and feel of the cork and black. Is there anyone you know willing to sell 1? A mh or medium casting!
@rashidgani8664
@rashidgani8664 2 жыл бұрын
Hi JP how are you... actually I was searching one of your video in which you catch marlin on Shimano Socorro...brother can you share me link of that video please
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rashid, it was a Pacific Sailfish. Here is the link where I mention it. It is the second reel I talk about. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aregrK6XzsjSgH0.html
@piotr.czechowski
@piotr.czechowski 2 жыл бұрын
Which would you recommend for perch catching on light baits like 1-2g jig head with 2'' bait.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
6'8" - 7'0" Light power, Fast or extra fast action would work best. The new Zodias 7' Light is amazing and the same rod in Expride is one of my favorites.
@piotr.czechowski
@piotr.czechowski 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors it is sooooo hard to choose between Zodias and Expired! I guess I can't go wrong with any of them but it's kills me ... need to decide something ;)
@piotr.czechowski
@piotr.czechowski 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors BTW would it work as a drop shot and all around rod? Or should I go with Medium Light?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@piotr.czechowski I live the light as a dropshot rod...works very well with 6 or 7lb fluoro or 5lb Power Pro to fluoro leader
@miketorre16
@miketorre16 Жыл бұрын
what rod do you recommend on a 4000 Stella FK with 15lb line. mostly large mouth bass fishing
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors Жыл бұрын
That totally depends how much you want to spend. With 15lb you’re going to want a 7’-7’2”Medium Heavy / Fast action if you are fishing cover like wood, docks or vegetation. You can pick from NRX+, Expride, Zodias, GLX, IMX Pro or Curado rod and all are personal favorites of mine.
@miketorre16
@miketorre16 Жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors that’s the exact setup what I was thinking… the Expride in a medium heavy action. But I wanted to get a more of an experienced opinion.. thanks a lot…
@raymondjohnson6496
@raymondjohnson6496 Жыл бұрын
What about Dobyns Champion extreme HP rods which one you think about shimano expride or Dobyns
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I have never fished one so I honestly couldn’t give you an honest opinion. Sorry!
@LumocolorARTnr1319
@LumocolorARTnr1319 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how they compare against Posion Adrena!
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Poison Adrena is Spiral X Core blanks which are higher end than High Power X. I find them even crisper and lighter than Expride.
@davidvanmaanen-icperch2797
@davidvanmaanen-icperch2797 Жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors and the poison has a FULL carbon monocoque handle instead of just carbon monocoque...right?
@daicalopba2620
@daicalopba2620 2 жыл бұрын
How many pieces is the expride rod? How many pieces is the zodiac rod?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Expride is a 1 piece. Zodias has a couple of 2 price options and 2 - 5 piece travel rods
@gkhin1990
@gkhin1990 3 ай бұрын
We need a 7'6 light in the new exprides!
@deerphoria4314
@deerphoria4314 Жыл бұрын
I fish jerkbaits 75% of the time. What expense model and zodiac model will work best for jerkbaits?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Spinning or casting?
@deerphoria4314
@deerphoria4314 Жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors spinning rod pairing it with my Vanford or stradic fl
@rhinusbreedt9772
@rhinusbreedt9772 Ай бұрын
Great video thank you! Everything i wanted to know between the 2. Can now get the expride for 30 dollars more than the zodias
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors Ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@stefanbertasz4690
@stefanbertasz4690 11 күн бұрын
Where? I'm seeing them at about $70 more
@ddm62571
@ddm62571 2 жыл бұрын
Which rod is lighter in weight?
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Expride is lighter when comparing identical models
@vrn036
@vrn036 2 жыл бұрын
Ничего не понятно но очень интересно)))
@rhodesianhunter9360
@rhodesianhunter9360 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I just stick with zodias between the two. If I want a higher priced rod I'll go to the adrena or something similar.
@fourwheelerjock
@fourwheelerjock 2 жыл бұрын
Is buy a expride but I can't STAND cork handles.... This is the single and only thing keeping me from buying higher end rods. Really wish company's would offers options of both cork and EVA for handles
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Zodias or Curado series.
@fourwheelerjock
@fourwheelerjock 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Yea I heard the curado is close the the expride. So those too are probably my only routes to take at this point. Just still think all brands should offer different grips. The catfish world and rods do that all the time.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@fourwheelerjock tough to double the SKU's that they have to manufacture and that retailers need to inventory. No easy answer on that
@fourwheelerjock
@fourwheelerjock 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Ehhhh, If catfish rod companies can do it with easy indont see why other companies can't 🤷‍♂️
@Travis7919
@Travis7919 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, you should test any of the better European brand rods. Then you will experience what high-end really means.
@twiggsherman3641
@twiggsherman3641 2 жыл бұрын
Meh. Megabass is about as high-end as it gets. Shimano and Daiwa would be Megabass's kissing cousins.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to. Shimano gas so many cool rods I would love to see some that are not available to the North American market!
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@twiggsherman3641 I have fished Megabass rods, I would put Expride up against them without hesitation. Rod preference is a personal opinion at the end of the day
@twiggsherman3641
@twiggsherman3641 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors oh I agree, Expride are very nice rods. Just saying when it comes to high-end, the Megabass P5 Destroyer has the extra jazz.
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@twiggsherman3641 yeah but they are double the money. 😂
@zacharykorman1390
@zacharykorman1390 2 жыл бұрын
If only I could actually buy an expride anywhere
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not easy. They became very popular the last couple of years
@davidnewcomb2431
@davidnewcomb2431 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the 6ft8 med and 6ft8 med hvy in the Expride...
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I actually also missed the 6'6". The Shimano website for North America has them all jumbled up apparently.
@davidnewcomb2431
@davidnewcomb2431 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors there I go getting onto you about forgetting rods and I forgot they did the 6ft6 lol
@JPDeRoseOutdoors
@JPDeRoseOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidnewcomb2431 😂
@10000Islands
@10000Islands 7 ай бұрын
Advertisement for both, with push to more expensive option.
@tims_always_fishing7117
@tims_always_fishing7117 6 ай бұрын
Yes, he's sponsored and he's right! Exprides are 1 of the best rods out there.
@joelfernandez1403
@joelfernandez1403 2 жыл бұрын
I have Shimano vanford whith Shimano zodias and Shimano exprimer whit a Shimano Stella 2018.expride fell better.zodias light
@onlythaclonessir2525
@onlythaclonessir2525 Жыл бұрын
you people are not paying respect to the indigenous or the Japan craft ( you have no idea watt it was four )
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