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@blackpeachfilms43253 жыл бұрын
Max, do you speak russian?😂
@TheNitpicker3 жыл бұрын
Tascam sounds quite a bit better, more clairity and nicer highs. The Zoom sounds more compressed and quite muffled, I wouldn't use its lav mic but rather a better one. Would have liked to hear something like the sennheiser ME2 II on both recorders
@JaseEvoX3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure on this one, the Tascam sounds different but also a little hollow/echoey. I think the zoom would clean up better and tbh the convenience of not having to worry about setting gain etc is a big bonus for me.
@Sutterjack3 жыл бұрын
That's one of the questions I have about the F2 - can you use Sennheiser and Countryman Lavs with it? Does it have enough gain?
@paulfairchild89423 жыл бұрын
I preferred the sound of the Zoom. But its best to match these with better lavs.
@TheTechnoPilot3 жыл бұрын
@@Sutterjack it’s 32bit float so the gain plays very little into things. It should have no issues running any of those mic’s.
@RichardsWorld3 жыл бұрын
@@Sutterjack you don't adjust gain on 32 bit recorders. You adjust it later with your video or audio editor. The big advantage of 32 bit recording is you just place the mic and hit record. That's it. No need to adjust the gain. If the audio levels change during your recording, you fix that while editing.
@Sutterjack3 жыл бұрын
1:44 - F2 actually uses two AAA not AA
@davidanderson83813 жыл бұрын
I thought the Tascam sounded a bit better. That said, the Zoom interests me as a back-up to a wireless lav. Thanks for the video.
@christiancubacub3 жыл бұрын
7:56 kind of confused on which audio is which, the text said Zoom during the peaking audio part...
@RobbyNowell3 жыл бұрын
Based on his wording, I'm pretty sure the clipped one is the Tascam and he forgot to change the graphic.
@julientaylor3 жыл бұрын
SHILL CHAMPION! Two Squarespace Ad's in 2 minutes and 40seconds, thats gotta be a Record! Gsus
@alanabley525 Жыл бұрын
Prefer the fuller sound of the Tascam. Can the Zoom be made fuller in post giving it a more Tascam sound?
@asmru69823 жыл бұрын
The TASCAM was distorting when you spoke loudly. I record in noisy places so I’m happy I went with the zoom!
@kenbest76603 жыл бұрын
Tascam sounds better in general, but that may be the microphone difference. The other features for the Zoom are clearly better, ans especially the 32 bit float. Time for Tascam to update their recorder.
@yuriy773 жыл бұрын
Different mics, also tascam mic just a metal cap, zoom has fluffy wind screen. That kills higher end frequencies.
@2112jonr3 жыл бұрын
The build quality of the F2 is frankly sh1te. It lets down Zoom and isn't worthy of being classed as a field recorder. They need to redesign it, particularly the battery compartment and the battery door. The latter will last about five minutes, assuming you don't drop the unit first in an attempt to prise open the battery compartment.
@AskJoe3 жыл бұрын
To get a feeling of the mic quality vs the recording quality (32 bit float vs regular), it would be great if you tried it with another mic. For example, recording on the Tascam with the Zoom mic and vice versa.
@2112jonr3 жыл бұрын
Yep, a lot of KZfaqrs miss the fact that 32bit is useless if your mic can't handle the SPL.
@davidhrzenjak3 жыл бұрын
New Year is in 20 minutes for me and here I am watching this 😂
@Ride-With-Me-693 жыл бұрын
I'm already in 2021 7 hours ago.
@davidhrzenjak3 жыл бұрын
@@Ride-With-Me-69 good morning, is 2021 any better? 😂
@rickskellig46523 жыл бұрын
@@davidhrzenjak Nah, it's shite
@kmwong17863 жыл бұрын
Should compare with Tentacle Sync Track E another recorder with 24-bit recording.
@costinvaly13 жыл бұрын
you mean 32bit recording.
@pedrovictorrozante1073 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Max! About the metering, I updated the firmware on my tascam just this week and now you can still see the audio levels when you press record :) Have a great 2021!
@wildfernweddings41873 жыл бұрын
Why would you not set the DR10L to auto gain?
@sthubbins40383 жыл бұрын
Auto gain, like auto-exposure for video, can be very problematic. It can wildly ramp up/down the noise floor in the middle of someone talking, which is almost impossible to smoothly remove in post.
@The.Range_3 жыл бұрын
Can the Zoom-app be paired with two or more F2-BTs or just a single one?
@icantevenproductions3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’d like to know
@l.s.112 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know as well - commenting in case someone answers.
@JoshuaWayt3 жыл бұрын
The zoom sounded very compressed and the tascam sounded clear. I'm not sure if this has to do with how the audio was compressed in post or if it was the mic or preamp quality in the zoom itself. I would love to see a follow-up video that looks deeper into the files. The Bluetooth feature is really nice, however, for weddings I'd probably still start the recording manually because I'm not sure I would want to run the risk of possibily having connectivity issues. Maybe test range and connectivity in a follow-up video too?
@TheTechnoPilot3 жыл бұрын
The value of the Bluetooth is not in remote recording control, it’s in timecode sync. Also I would not judge any of audio quality with the stock almost throw away quality mic, they clearly through in what would retail as a $10 lav so it works out of box.
@ziad.mp4 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTechnoPilot curious you have any suggestions for a 3.5mm lav replacement?
@TheTechnoPilot Жыл бұрын
@@ziad.mp4 honestly I’d personally suggest either a Sennheiser MKE2, Countryman B6, or Sanken Cos11. While they all aren’t cheap, they are durable, industry standard lavs that will last you.
@366865933 жыл бұрын
side by side the Tascam is better anybody would say, but if you used it in the field, the zoom would be fine, so with the ease of use I would go the zoom.
@moltenpros3 жыл бұрын
Wrong! sound quality is subjective but Zoom wins by far in everything else; battery life, float audio, size and piece of mind.
@Cre8tiveLicense3 жыл бұрын
Max, the audio level changed during the overdriven Zoom recording at 7:58. Was that the Zoom compressing the audio? If it was, does the compression ease when the shouting stops? Also, you didn't change the graphic back to "Tascam" at 8:06.
@TheTechnoPilot3 жыл бұрын
As others have pointed out, use of an identical higher end lav between both recorders would have been more valuable as really not many professionals will be using the included mic. Something like a mid-range MKEII would have been more informative. Also I would point out that the Bluetooth functionality isn’t really about control or use of a phone to control the device. It’s ALL about BT timecode compatiblity with Timecode Systems!
@paulfairchild89423 жыл бұрын
So I bought 3x new Tascam DR-10L's a few weeks back to go with 2 I already have. Wish I knew that Zoom was coming out with the F2, I would have waited...
@BoilingJD3 жыл бұрын
I've never had issues with battery life on my DR10 because I know that one battery lasts 7 hours, so I just swap it every day/shoot, never had issues with gain staging because even if you're peaking at -6db, there is still plenty of headroom. Furthermore, the sound clarity is far better on the tascam. One area where Zoom might have an advantage is when making 'self shooting' kits for remote contributors (during this pandemic) - where the priority is to give the ma device that will be a s simple to use as possible, so they can't screw it up. Finally, it doesn't matter if the encoding is 32 bit, you can still clip the microphone and preamp itself.
@paulfairchild89423 жыл бұрын
"Finally, it doesn't matter if the encoding is 32 bit, you can still clip the microphone and preamp itself." ... how so? Would it not have to be like an incredibly loud sound like a rifle going off. I have used 32 bit float a lot and its saved my bacon on multiple shoots where I had the gain stage set slightly too high.
@BoilingJD3 жыл бұрын
@@paulfairchild8942 It's all about proximity to the source and the mic's and preamps sensitivity.
@DavidGriffin Жыл бұрын
Aye bro. The game needs you.
@stephencarter8323 жыл бұрын
The latest Tascam software allows you to see the audio levels when recording.
@jonjoy-gaba3153 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comparison! I do a bunch of weddings where mic setup sometimes has to happen 5 minutes ago. I have a pair of the Tascams and find the auto level function to have never let me down. However, the problem I face is stupid user error where I "thought" I was recording. That bluetooth connection is TOTALLY worth it and with that I'll never sweat about recording since I can just check triple check from my phone. Other things that seem really nice from your comparison is the red tally light. I always wished there was a dedicated tally light on that Tascam. Bye-bye Tascam and hellllllo Zoom! Thanks again Max!
@Arseny.Petukhov3 жыл бұрын
When you were talking at normal volume there is almost no difference. When you're yelling and pull it down sure Zoom sounds more mushy, but it's better than blowing it out.
@NadunDissanayake3 жыл бұрын
So how can you monitor the sound ?
@zagorcuk19663 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to monitor and control 3 x Zoom-F2's with the app ? That would be great...never cables..
@morningcoffee11113 жыл бұрын
Same question.
@ckmaui3 жыл бұрын
love your reviews but IMHO you blew it on this one without using identical mics to compare :)
@TomasTruchly3 жыл бұрын
Well Max wanted to show us the whole kit obviously ( recorder + supplied mic ). But yeah :) Max you could switch the MICs. That would've been like.. PEEEEERFECT. I like the sound Tascam bit better. But I would like to know if this is only caused by microphone or also some DAC differences between Zoom and Tascam. Maybe I would've liked Zoom with Tascam Mic better then.
@2112jonr3 жыл бұрын
Wow, talk about biased. You *completely* ignored the elephant in the room: The F2's build quality. It's light because it's flimsy. Worse still, the battery compartment is badly designed. It is extremely tight. And the batteries are difficult to remove too. The cover has a single, cheap plastic latch to hold it in place, and is VERY difficult to open without excessive force. The kind of force that will see it pinging out of your hand and onto the floor. This would not be so bad if it had decent battery life (one day, max), or in-place recharging, although I don't expect it on any device at that price point. So, the F2 was not for me - it's built to break and I'm not the only one who thinks that. Not so bad in a £20 device, but for £200 I expect something that will last. This mechanism won't. Sorry Zoom, not buying. Don't get me wrong, I like Zoom gear, and the F6 is brilliant. As it the F2's electronics. But it's let down badly by the case. Really, really badly. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bpx7a9t5mLPKc4E.html
@Kushari3 жыл бұрын
quick correction, the batteries for the zoom are triple A, not double.
@AsianWithHat3 жыл бұрын
Hey Max, are you having any mic input issues if you rock the input left and right? This is a realistic scenario and I'm now considering returning my F2 and getting Tentacle Sync Trac E.
@GermanViking3 жыл бұрын
Ok let's be honest... The zoom sounds like a cheap gaming headset mic (very nasal walkie-talkie kind of sound) but it has better features than the tascam, I would like to hear it with a better lav. Thanks for the review
@AlessandroSpenga3 жыл бұрын
The Tascam sounds better. The Zoom sounds darker and the foam on the mic might be the reason. Maybe the Tascam has a better solution than foam to cut the wind but keeping the signal brighter. The Tascam sounds better out of the box, very close to what a finished voice should sound after editing. The Zoom will need EQ corrections to remove the "boxiness" in the mid range and some high end boost to make it brighter. The problem when you have a darker mic and you try to make it brighter in post with eq, is that you will also boost BG hiss.
@3rdGorilla3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 tascams they have replaced my boom setup. So much easier.
@iRelax62 жыл бұрын
the zooms had a lot of static 7-8 min mark, the tascams were clear. listening thru the KRK Rokit5s
@AndrewVanBeekOttawa3 жыл бұрын
I'm receiving the F2 tomorrow. I do find that the Tascam sounds better but I assume that's because of the lav mic. I'll have to try that out.
@TheFlyingDutchMan8K3 жыл бұрын
question . . can it record stereo in separate channels with a stereo mic ? thank you
@ishudshutup3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, the Tascam sounded better (more fuller vs flat), but it could be due to the lav mics. Perhaps additional testing is warranted with different mics.
@therealjimmy54113 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention what that second port on the top of the Zoom is for.
@morningcoffee11113 жыл бұрын
From photos: it’s an output. And that output is a screw on just like the input for the mic.
@NowyKurs3 жыл бұрын
Some people complained that F2 have jack noice issue.
@NadineMMedia3 жыл бұрын
Hey Max, LOVE this, thank you!!! You're always to detailed, and honest! How does the Zoom F2 compare to the Zoom Wireless Go? And would they sound relative to the more expensive, like the RodeLink Filmmaker lav or the Sennheiser kits? Thank you!!
@2112jonr3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bpx7a9t5mLPKc4E.html
@joycallender91553 жыл бұрын
Hey Max, can you do a comparison with the Tentacle Sync Track E ?
@elmaldonado3 жыл бұрын
I love the tentacle tracks. Not sure why they’re not including the tentacle in this review.
@Cre8tiveLicense3 жыл бұрын
Max, does the Zoom REC light not come on when you hit Record on the phone when using Bluetooth (at 9:03) Did not see the REC light. Also, can you monitor recording in the phone with headphones/earbuds via Bluetooth?
@TheGuy-cp4me3 жыл бұрын
For a long time I wanted to ask someone about Olympus LS-100, what do you think about it Max? I feel like I need an microphone because when I record with it, even the voice is clear, but I don't know why I don't like the voice. Please tell me about this.
@MobileTechPoint3 жыл бұрын
My mind: is tascam better? My ears: yes My mind: or is zoom better? My ears: yes My mind: wtf 😬
@pedalandypedal3 жыл бұрын
the tascam sounds a lot better in this vid.
@Geck0n3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year! 🎄
@MaxPowers12452 жыл бұрын
Jesus when was this recorded ? You look like you’ve aged more than me under lockdown 😂..great video as always 👍
@b89oj3 жыл бұрын
This might be a dumb question but you didn't say anything about this: can you transfer the recordings from both the devices to your pc using a usb cable?
@greenbergalex77083 жыл бұрын
Great, thank you max 🙏🏼
@MelvinDlaCruz3 жыл бұрын
I think the tascam sound more clear and better
@PS-ys9yg3 жыл бұрын
One thing i dont understand of this things, how you can record someone if you dont sure if the thing works or maybe run out of battery for example? how can you record professional without monitoring?
@josiahpetermann29973 жыл бұрын
What’s the Bluetooth range? How far can my phone/device be from the recorders?
@PADAVALAVENKATASAIKRISHNA3 жыл бұрын
sooooooooo great i follow u daily
@iDealMedley3 жыл бұрын
is there a hold switch on the zoom
@rfzw3 жыл бұрын
The Tascam sounds a lot better but I think it's the lav mic as opposed to the recorders themselves. Can you use the Tascam mic on the Zoom recorder? That might be the best of both worlds.
@yuriy773 жыл бұрын
They have different wind screens on the mics. It's not 1 to 1 comparison.
@oncedust3 жыл бұрын
On the Zoom, was Low Cut turned on?
@Namanya3 жыл бұрын
can zoom-F2 or tascam use 2 microphones?
@Design4753 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to monitor the audio with the zoom f2? Does the app let you monitor audio with headphones?
@32OJSimpson323 жыл бұрын
"This is how it sounds like" lol... I think he meant... This is what it sound like... or... This is how it sounds
@donnysbackroadoutdoors50883 жыл бұрын
Witch one would y'all recommend for shooting fish videos because gopro audio sucks
@darlingtoncd3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I have poor hearing...I couldn't tell the difference.
@Snakeye22093 жыл бұрын
Why is no one comparing the clip on the back. The one on Tascam is so tight!!! Can't even use it on a belt..... How is the Zoom one?
@thingswithed3 жыл бұрын
It's very tight as well on the F2
@ToddLloyd3 жыл бұрын
Yea. It’s pretty tight on the F2
@jk4k9893 жыл бұрын
I just got one of these and it has the growing problem of if you move the mic where it plugs in, it creates a popping sound. I'm returning it until they resolve this issue.
@donnysbackroadoutdoors50883 жыл бұрын
Witch one did you get?
@jk4k9893 жыл бұрын
@@donnysbackroadoutdoors5088 The Zoom F2
@wildwoodweddingfilms3 жыл бұрын
Can you grab that Bluetooth time code module and see how well it interfaces with this?
@robertfeliciano57233 жыл бұрын
I have the Atomos AtomX Sync module, which basically has an UltraSync Blue built-in. Atomos bought TimeCode Systems last year. It paired quickly and easily. The tiny LED above 'OFF' blinks to let you know it's synced. The catch is that it can only do one thing with the Bluetooth signal. You can either control it or use TC. This is the same with the F8.
@wildwoodweddingfilms3 жыл бұрын
@@robertfeliciano5723 Great. So if I bought three of these how many Atomos AtomoX do I need?
@robertfeliciano57233 жыл бұрын
@@wildwoodweddingfilms The module only works with the Ninja V. You need one of those as well. The Sync module will be the server and the others will be clients. I believe you can have up to 8 clients.
@lukefoxwell3 жыл бұрын
Got a question! Could you in theory plug a powered XLR mic say the RODE NTG2 into this with a XLR to 3.5mm? Been shooting in a lot of schools recently and I've had to use a XLR mic on a boom and stand because I'm not aloud to close to the students for obvious reason, would save me some hassle as their volume are all over the place especially the really young ones
@bigtb17173 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have done this with the NTG2 and the Sennheiser MKE600.
@wenjun_n3 жыл бұрын
Think the Tentacle Track E would have been a much better recorder and package as a whole.
@rsmith023 жыл бұрын
Higher price and non-removable battery I think. If you don't use timecode is it a waste to get it?
@wenjun_n3 жыл бұрын
@@rsmith02 Go check out Gerald Undone's video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9iZeMmfrau6aJs.html
@2kool4myskool Жыл бұрын
As you can hear the sound quality on the F2 is crap.
@Samtagri3 жыл бұрын
Don’t you need to blur the CK logo on your t-shirt? All the cool boys on TV do it, so you have to do it to fit in :P
@user-ks2ku7wk2j2 жыл бұрын
08:00 more learn I got it!!
@markshirley013 жыл бұрын
Max - your links a the wrong products
@LukeRietherdp3 жыл бұрын
The tascam is much clearer and a bit crisper. I have never been a big fan of zoom.
@aramkiam3 жыл бұрын
scrolled all the way through the comments and didn't find a single response from you to your viewers questions. Thumb is down.
@reyesmontemayor69983 жыл бұрын
Tascam sounds better in my opinion. Zoom has more features. I’ll stick with my Tascam
@flipteezy3 жыл бұрын
The tascam is warmer and the zoom is more boxy.
@ffaabb793 жыл бұрын
Tascam sounds "richer"
@sergiypervun95093 жыл бұрын
Tascam sounds reacher for sure.
@2112jonr3 жыл бұрын
For balance: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bpx7a9t5mLPKc4E.html
@helgiforest3 жыл бұрын
Tasscam sounds better to my ears
@johnmckay4283 жыл бұрын
Tascam sounds better
@phat56pat3 жыл бұрын
Stop biting your nails lol
@TruthReviews3 жыл бұрын
First
@CameronGallagher963 жыл бұрын
DONT BUY THE ZOOM! I got mine today and it has a flexing input which makes an awful clicking and popping sound! I tried other lavs and basically this has a HUGE design flaw
@robertfeliciano57233 жыл бұрын
I got mine yesterday, I don't have that issue.
@paulfairchild89423 жыл бұрын
Think you may need to RMA your one. I have seen a few reviews of the F2 and no review that I have seen reported this issue.
@thingswithed3 жыл бұрын
I don't have that issue with mine.
@juancortezavega56663 жыл бұрын
TROLL???
@CameronGallagher963 жыл бұрын
@@juancortezavega5666 Check the We Are Film KZfaq. I’ve had at least 4-5 others have the same issue