Yes I agree with you

Exactly

Good Comment 🤣😂👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿✌🏻

This comment got me 😂 well done 👏🏽👏🏽

Too right Keadon.

Kelly. It was his great grandson. His name was Mangosthu Buthelezi,he went on to form the Inkatha freedom party and was Nelson Mandelas main opposition to the ANC.

During early production, the Zulu extras were running by the cameras smiling. No amount of instruction seemed to work. The Director: Cy Endfield, got an idea and played a John Wayne western for the extras. During an Indian attack he, through a translator, explained that this is how he wanted them to act. Apparently, it worked well. The faces of the Zulu in the film are stoic, brave, and quite frankly, terrifying.

That's amazing I never knew that

True

Got to say, they do look awesome in this.

The Welsh have the monopoly on belting tunes plus they sing them better than any one

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdWfiNlhttrYe6c.html this is the next best thing

@@PatrickKelly-lz3pv indeed we do. In fact, I literally started humming this tune and didn’t know where it was from. Jesus Christ it’s in our blood. Cymru

@@mactire5964 nope. I was humming the exact tune to this. I am also a Welsh born. I don’t think I would be singing an ENGLISH song. No no no

I dunno, their actual anthem is pretty inspiring too.

It has currently been cancelled for political incorrectness. As you say it is not racist. It portrays the Zulus as brave, intelligent and cunning tacticians. They are also very chivalrous. The final scene when the Zulus give up is electrifying. They salute their enemy for being great warriors. The film is about how we can get into conflict, even very violent conflict, yet not lose our humanity.

@@benthejrporter yeah it was very progressive for it's time! also the scene where they let the Priest and his daughter past showed the good side of the Zulus as well.

@@reddyshreddy5050 It is a film filled with decency and humanity. It disgusts me that people SO misrepresent it that it has been banned in some places.

@@benthejrporter Not only that, they paid Zulu actors full rate during apartheid. Those are actual Zulus performing their cultural war dances at a time when their government was actively repressing them, and getting paid to do it.

Reddy Shreddy he wasn’t a priest. He was a minister.

spot on, totally agree

And also Men of Harlech is a banger.

@@bigmoniesponge Amen.

I once read that the extras playing the warriors pitched up on set somewhat downtrodden due to the regime prevalent in SA at the time, but grew and became prouder during the filming of the chants. Magnificent warriors and people!

Agreed

LOL

May I recommend your friend a good divorce lawyer?

Interesting as well, B company, snd Battalion, Warwickshire reg. were an English company of an English regiment. The "Welshness" was added because that particular battalion had later become absorbed into the Welsh regiments and added a Celtic joviality to the film. Cracking film, mind - it's a truly great anti-racism film which praises the Zulus as much as it does the British army.

Robert Holloway the British Army and the Zulu nation are still friends to this day .

I served with a zulu in our British armed forces ... 1980s .... Lovely man who respected our mutual heritage.

The scary part is that this wasn't the main Zulu army. It was their reserve force made up of primarily unblooded warriors whose job was to harass and disrupt the British supply trains supporting the main British force (the one that got killed at Ishlawanda).

@@danielhaire6677 A lot of them were middle-aged, one reason they had been held in reserve.

@@stevekaczynski3793 Its good to have a few veterans around the new greener troops.

Today is a good day to die!

HELL YEAH🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

Long live the british Isles 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧

It's OK to be black OR white. It's tough to escape our culture, impossible for our shared humanity.

Ivor Emmanuel is incredible. They cast him in this movie just for this scene. I cannot imagine anyone else singing this, his voice is so powerful. I first saw this movie when it came out in 1964 (I was 6). This scene still gives me goosebumps.

Hero.

@@eckyx9019 Truly.

I came here looking for this comment. Not only did he lead the evacuation of the Morgan Stanley employees in the South Tower, he predicted the attack years before. He also anticipated the truck bombing that happened in 1993 but was told by the Port Authority to mind his own business. An absolute legend. Rest in peace, Rick.

Great man. British paratrooper who found his way in to Vietnam. Fun fact: He is on the front cover of the famous book “We Were Soldiers and Young”. Col. Hal Moore said he was the best platoon leader he had 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇸

A goddamn legend 🫡

Respect.

Cymru am byth

The Zulu regiment? What uniform?

Hero

Was your uncle a part of the 2nd Warwickshire regiment?

r/thathappened

I am guessing there are more stories where that one comes from. Have you considered writing down your memories of that time period?

Ted Carruthers your mom’s ass looks fake but hey, hehe, it’s there. You cynical little bitch.

@Ted Carruthers Wanker

Hope they leaned the lesson though: never take a knife to a gun fight.

KING Jesus

@@SuperGreatSphinx A good grandad is a treasure.

Stu McCabe: I can with a large amount of 20/21st century weaponry. Claymore mines defensively will shred them even with those highly armoured leopard skins. Flame thrower usage and finally a dose of 50 calibre machine gun. The Americans staple of choice. And most importantly DON’T take survivors, they’ll go all martyr like through their family. Eradicate all of them and it’s job done. Perhaps not the pacifist option but in this day and age it’s survival of the fittest (and most comprehensively armed!).

Phil B .That gave me a laugh - thanks!

Like a Hakka. Can you imagine going up against a Maori battalion? A bunch of screaming guys like Russel Crowe or Jason Mamoa? (I know Jason is Hawaiian but you get the idea... a bit tattooed guy)

@@Redplanetlover I wouldn't try it.

​@@PhilbyFavouritesjust like how we beat al qaeda

Nurse Mary: And no casual girlfriends...? Blackadder: Skirt? Hah! If only... When I joined up, we were still fighting colonial wars. If you saw someone in a skirt, you shot him and nicked his country.

Would you like to provide evidence of that contention? If not, stop being an arse. Are you trying to indicate you are Finnish? Then you probably know fuck all about Celtic/Gaelic history. And finally, if you said that in Wales, you'd have your teeth shoved down your throat.

does it bloody matter that much mate? he's properly just got a good sence of humor. I'm shure he's not that much of a fool. Have a nice life, and may The Forse be with you, and the God's be with you.

Strange, but, that comment really fits this scene/music!!! ha ha go you Welsh!

Turmoil ñ

I thought the "enemy" came out very well represented....if you think of a strong African culture, you think of the zulu's....

Far ahead of its time in respect to the Zulus and affect of war. What an amazing film

I like the final scene better, when Lt. Chard was surveying the Zulu dead after re-enforcements had arrived and Sir Richard Burton recites the names of the men who won VCs there just before Chard plants a Zulu shield in the ground and walks out of picture. Here's a link to a roll of honour for those that won VCs at Rourke's Drift. It also lists those killed in action. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLF7h66ivrLVgoU.html

@@roas2 bollocks !!

Well said Sir! Might be the then enemy but always deserving of respect.

Except they weren’t equals - Britain was a hugely powerful industrial world superpower fighting a primitive African country and had invaded it.

@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 He was more on about no side being beat down to make the other look like the 'good guys'

@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Don't kid yourselves. the Zulus were imperialists too. This wasn't an invasion of some peaceful backwater. This was a clash of empires, and the Zulus had won the first round.

@@hagamapama Agreed the zulus were aggressive - but in the example we are discussing they were simply invaded.

spot on

And you lost it all when you you turned from Christ the King and tradition. America is next :(

​@@theredsaint11Returning the colonial lands to their owners was the CHRISTIAN thing to do, was it not?

@@rosemaryallen2128 no. It was insanity.

@@theredsaint11 Interesting. A Christian defending theft! But I suppose, given the record of the Western churches over 2000 years, it should not surprise anyone.

Welsh isn't really a requirement, but it helps

Well considering the majority of people from england actually have more in common with welsh people genetically, its fair to say most English people can feel inspired by this. Except kent and yorkshire, saxon and nordic respectively;)

​@@colonelturmeric558We honestly don't have more in common with the English.

I believe it was, maybe it still is, the school song for Walnut Hills High School in Cincinnati

Valhalla isn't just for Norsemen.

Your right. It actually is quite hard to get people to kill, to fight especially to contact. The military has done a lot studies on the subject. It does not come natural. Skirmishing from a distance, that's easier we like that better :)

Sorry assholes, it did happen like this. Chicken Swedes et al may not like hand to hand fighting but we British have always excelled when it came down to cold steel. Even the vaunted German army usually ran away when confronted with a British bayonet charge. My Uncle and Grandfather who both fought (and won!) at Vimy Ridge and confirmed this.

Give them the cold steel! they said at Gettysburg.... People-humans- hate hand to hand. Even troops charging with bayonets stop when in range to start shooting. it'a rare to have a bayonet charge into the enemy, one stops short or the other breaks. Our natural fighting method is to skirmish.

"Sorry assholes, it did happen like this". Oh please

"Even the vaunted German army usually ran away when confronted with a British bayonet charge. " That is why it took four years. And before you quote me what your gramps did, I have my grandfathers Mons Star 6 inches away from where I type: and he fought in the Sudan with Kitchener.

A&A Britten ah! So you watched the film as well!

As Shakespeare had Henry V say at Agincourt (tis fearful odds) when they viewed the French in their battle set.

If I'm right I think there was only 27 killed in action out of the total British garrison and supposedly 400 and reports say up to 800 Zulu dead, there certainly was great skill at arms and extreme bravery on both sides. Lt Gonville Bromhead VC 29 August 1845 - 9 February 1891 who was later gazetted to full major for this action and other accomplishments on 4 of April 1883 succumbed to typhoid fever whilst stationed at Prayagrai in India . He came from a family with a fine military background being his great grandfather fought under Major general James Wolfe on the the Plains of Abraham at Quebec his grandfather fought in the American Revolutionary War as a Lieutenant General and father was a veteran of Waterloo as well as three brothers who where officers in the British Army . Soldiering was some what of a family tradition or was it a vocation,all in all quite an accomplished family tree in the best tradition's of the British forces.

Yea, but both of the commanders were Lt's in their 30's at the time of this battle. Doesn't speak highly of either one of them.

Except to the English.

Snead Hearn never 😂😂

now the Saxon flees before us , victories banner waveth oe'r us sings the loud insulting chorus, Welshmen will not yield.

I think those particular words were written for the movie. They are brilliant. I should say that the movie dramatically understates the place of the Royal Engineers who were then, as always, everywhere.

'neath the fray lie dead and dying Friend and foe together lying All around the arrows flying scatter sudden death.

Very. Thank you for sharing that.

And by all accounts a good account of what Harry actually said. Backs to the wall, going down from dysentery -- but you have the high ground and Welsh archers.

Then he slaughterd all the french p o w english chivalry

MegaProjectpat . Rommel described Montgomery as a very good 1st world war general. Nothing better said.

MegaProjectpat Wellington refused to advance into Spain until he had logistics sorted out. He knew Spain and Portugal had been raped of food by Napoleons army who just took what they wanted which caused resentment with the population and led to guerrilla bands forming. A standing order was any soldier looting was to be hung in front of the civilians he stole from. Once he had supplies then he advanced. This was the first time that a logistic military unit had been formed and used for the complete supply of an army in the field not dependent on local looting to feed them.

I’m Scottish. I’d take Ivor Emmanuel over the bagpipes any day.

@Vic Tomisedthere were a number of Irishmen at Rourkes Drift also.

@ZoeQuinnIsAMurderer Red Card for unpleasant language there, I think.

Hooooooooooooo!!!

i notice that when i first saw gladiator in the cinema at the time could not put my finger on what film it was from

Zulu is one of Ridley Scott’s favourite films. He put that chant in as a nod to it

As I recall The British Armada had trashed the American east coast, took and occupied Maine, accepted surrendors and tribute from Boston and NYC resupplied them, captured Washington DC, burnt the White House and parts of DC down, leaving the President and all of Congress scattered refugees in the woods, and of course leaving the American government effectively non existant for months before sailing on to Louisana and New Orleans, trashing coastal towns and pirating ships as they went along the coast. Once they reached Florida and there after, everything went 'south' (sour) for the Bristish. The allied and friendly Spainish ports in Florida held all the supplies, and all the auxillaries (indian allies) gathered to reinforce them. The Brits planned to land and march on New Orleans from there , and attack from the undefended landward side. HOWEVERJackson and the American Militia invaded Florida, and captured the ports ahead of the British, denying the Brits their supplies and fresh water, while scattering all the British Indian allies into the Everglades. The British tried to land at Mobile Bay and several other points along the coast but Jackson was always there first. At New Orleans the British could only land in the swamps. Before this last desperate attack was tried they had already fought- and lost- several more battles (when trying to break out of the swamp and outflank New Orleans), leaving them only the swamp to land in, and march through, for a last desperate frontal attack on the cities main defenses. If the British had won, they planned to sweep up the Mississippi River and link to Canada, taking the Louisana Purchase for themselves, and leaving the USA surronded and a client state. But they did not win,

This entire campaign was marked by incompetant leadership from start to finnish, and was done in complete violation of all instructions and orders from Great Britain. The reason they were improperly supplied for war was because there was no war planned, except defense. The man who really commanded during the battle at Roarks Drift was the Boer lieutenant I heard, but politics demanded the patrician British Lieutenants be given the credit.

@blueskies1000 the Boer just helped out by pointing out the tactics and basically telling Chard the tactics. Know your enemy, and all that. He was invaluable but I'm 99% sure he wasn't in charge

From what I read (it was really a article mostly about the failure of Chelmsfords leadersip), Chard was in a delirium from the knock to his head far longer than indicated in the movie, and the real hero of the action was James Dalton, the acting assistant commissary, who took command when Chard wandered off. Bromhead btw was deaf, and described as dithering and useless in a crisis, though otherwise well liked in his regiment. He was aways left behind in the rear when there was action because of his deafness etc. Which was why he was at Roarks Drift. The explanation given for not giving credit to Dalton was that politically it was nesscery that the Drift be commanded by someone of the British gentry. Chard remained in service and retired as Col. Chard. Most all the survivors of that battle suffered (we know today) PTSD. I know this is probably controversial lol. My knowledge of British history is less, not more :) Whomever I offended, I appologize, and I look forward to having myself set straight.

Jerry Coval well,Mr you may have us big chance ,as the hordes of thugs r coming to a theatre near u. Only they will b Islam and u won't have that parade ground prancing marine drill team. Go get em tiger ,but before u go call me fight rite beside u.

Hated the english (sigh) pretty sad

So the Zulu nation stands on the side of the sane and normal free thinking people? That's neat.

The thing is about this movue, is that at every point whenever somebody says about the Zulus being savages, someone is there to correct them. The movie knows not to demonise one side or take favourites.

I’d like to point out that despite hearing over and over that there’s some effort by the ‘leftists’ whatever that means this week to sully this film.... have yet to see anyone but a small handful of uninformed people say anything to that degree... so this really isn’t a battle being fought or anything

@@About37Hobos i agree with what you're saying, it's too easy to say "the left" or "the right" when really, it is just idiots.

@@Marauder623 Honestly its not even really a thing happening, just a handful of uninformed people in conversations. Theres no effort to defame the movie and label it racist

Great movie but not from a historical point of view. The vast majority of the garrison was English. There was more Irishmen than Welsh. At the time it was the Warwickshire Regiment at the garrison. It was an Irish officer who advised to stay and fight and to improve the defences with the the biscuit tins. Private Hook was a total tea totaler in real life and his family were rightly angry with the way he was portrayed in the film. The Zulu's never sang to praise the defenders and retreated when their scouts saw Chelmsford'd reinforcements arriving.

No matter how many times i watch , it never gets old .

@@johnroche7541 it was fairly accurate with on how it shows the battle of rorke’s drift. They probably added the singing part to make it more dramatic which I understand since it doesn’t bother me that much

“Death, death death!”

Zulu would’ve been in for a bad time

Song?

@@ShodaiGojira-xn3xk Panzerlied, from 'Battle of the Bulge'. Here on YT.

To the same tune as Das Sudwesterlied. 😏

'All Quiet on the Western Front' (1930) will always be the best war film in my mind.

Fuck the Queen and the Royals. and up the Welsh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Agreed, one of the best British films (together with The Dambusters). This was before Michael Caine became Michael Caine!!

Hmm

Get ney-ney’d

Duke of Wellington was born in Trim. And his regiment were mustered from the men of that area, Leinster in Ireland. Finest regiment who delivered Europe from Napoleon in 1815, the Duke Of Boots regiment, 90% Irish .... Read ya history right.

BDM-Astro Scorpion Wellington might’ve been born in Ireland, but if you called him Irish he’d probably punch you.

No. He was proud to be an Irish protestant commander, well respected by his largely Catholic troops. As he said himself "They put the fear of God into me and I command them. What fear they put into the enemy is to God's knowledge." ~ Trust me. The Duke Of Wellington's Regiment is still in existence in Britain. My landlord is a former soldier in the regiment and is a member of the regimental association.

My great great grandfather, from Ireland, fought in the first Boer War.

No top tenners mind

Bass*

@@robertofulton *Tenors

More English at this battle than Welsh

@@theturdreich9546 Yes, dickheads, like Bromhead. .

English outnumbered Welsh 2-1 bromhead was French

@@chrisguy1790 No bromhead was English but was born in France and had few French relatives.

@@hfhso37ndnkshe was French then…

No. Totally incorrect and can't be arsed to discuss. Most VC's went to the English, at least three not present at the time. The museum has a web site whereby you can research or we used to. Since the socialist take over of Wales that information is no longer available as will offend the lefties. Think..

Isandlwana was the result of poor leadership on the British side and excellent leadership on the part of the Zulu

Nothing to do with Bromhead

I was told their officer was out hunting...

@@jamesricker3997 Exactly! The Quartermaster at Isandlwana made the troopers sign for the ammunition they received while they were fighting.

About 600 men of the 1/24th and one company of the 2/24th died in that battle, which was most of Bromhead's battalion. Alongside them you can add several hundred colonial police, volunteers, natives, Royal Artillery and a smattering of other units,there was even asailorpresent

still this idea that they were welsh when actually they were of an english regiment THE STAFFORDSHIRE REGT.

Not a good thing

talboters44 actually, the 24th regiment of foot was a mixed regiment and it was known as the 2nd Warwickshire regiment, not Staffordshire, which became the south wales borderers 3 years after the battle at rorke's drift and now known as the royal welsh regiment. of the 122 at the battle, there were at least 32 welsh, 16 irish a few scots and a few were even from overseas.

More Irish there than Welsh , yeah i,ve read Saul David , and Ian Knight,s books

You can,t include men from Monmouthshire , as this was at the time an English county , read the brilliant authority on this subject Ian Knight , or watch his films

And in "Carry on Cleo" Sid James wears Richard Burton's armor from "Cleopatra".

Private waddle! !!

francois williams Oh yes! jaaaaaaaa!

It's kind of a singing bridge between nations 🌉 Everybody in the world likes music 🎶