I saw this movie back in the 1970s great movie

And one of the best scores of all time too.

If it was remade today there would be at least some time dedicated to the Zulu point of view I suspect. Which could be really fucking good if done right but I suspect it would get overtaken by woke. 10 years ago would have been perfect.

Hooke

@@CoffeeFiend1 The film Zulu Dawn (made in 1979) was something like that, i.e. not woke but more balance between the British and Zulu perspectives.

@@jayevans5174Hook's daughters walked out of the film premiere in protest against his portrayal as an uncouth rogue. Apparently he was nothing like that in real life and was an "exemplary soldier".

God Bless him. ❤

God bless Michael Caine

A correction, British soldiers, not English. A fair few Welsh at Rourkes Drift along with other nationalities.

It would have been a treat. 😊

FOUR THOUSAND Zulu's, get your historic facts right. Robert at 69.

In fact , Zulu troops won several battles against British troops ( I mean at the time before Shaka's assassination )

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You have Englishmen and welshmen in detroit?

But they lost

The Zulus were good but the British were better.

They were good, but they had pretty much zero experience against modern hand to hand techniques, and the culture was 'fight until you die' - unlike the British whos veterans became teachers to teach the new generation.

@@Stanly-Stud…they may have lost here at Rorke’s Drift. But they won a much bigger battle against a large British force at Isandlwana. Rorke’s Drift was a skirmish in the aftermath. Both battles were well fought by their respective victors

@@Debbiebabe69 The bayonet was designed for fighting against armies similarly equipped so the British weren’t trained against Zulu spears that doubled as swords. Similarly, the Zulus weren’t trained to fight against a bayonet. A rifle butt can be used quite effectively as a club because it’s heavy (assuming the barrel isn’t too hot to hold) but Zulu spears are light, fast, and as lethal as a sword in close quarters. Plus, the Zulus had shields to parry a bayonet thrust. My guess is that Zulus did not want to engage a bayonet at the maximum range of a bayonet thrust and British soldiers didn’t want a Zulu inside that range, opening themselves up to be run through with a sword. The British soldier may be able to charge a Zulu with a bayonet and have an advantage of a longer weapon but if the Zulu maneuvers inside the bayonet strike range, then I think the advantage shifts to the Zulu. The problem is going to be that the British are standing together for a united bayonet barrier and a swam of Zulus might actually be in each others way when trying to maneuver.

Good show 'Hook' as a rebel rouser but with the chips down when it counts.

By the time of the Boer War the British uniforms were khaki.

⁠@@Rhubbathey was red in the first boer war. Which we lost. Then Changed for the second boer war. which we won.

In the 19th century, such importance was not yet attached to disguise. The range of an aimed shot of an infantry weapon was relatively short. Instead, the commander needed to have a good view of his soldiers during the battle, and to identify them. In addition, the British in the colonial wars did not face an opponent equal in firepower. From this point of view, a bright form in the jungle or desert was more of an advantage than a disadvantage.

And yet they would watch the bullshit depiction of 55 days a Peking.....maybe they should have had a few US marines in the filmm to save the day?

It closed prematurely because POC's in city protested as 'racist''. Nothing to do with Michael Caine or Stanley Baker.

Ya..carry when in Kensington or around Philly field after a ball game loss, like today

Their battle cry was "Usuto!", which means "kill".

Usuthu is a war cry it doesn't really mean anything its like saying ooh aah

Sounds about right..Lieutenant Chard and Jame Bond making level headed decisions under extreme duress..Robert at 69 who saw all those mid 60's movies. I never have been underwhelmed by this bravery in fictitious movies or in reality. Would I stand up to this..I don't know. I missed Viet Nam by 1 to 2 years.

Politicians.

The Zulus were invaders as well. The original people of what is now South Africa were the Khoisan, the Khwe and the San. The Zulus had invade sometime earlier though - if that makes the moral calculus any different.

s ironic that the blacks need our help to donate to digging wells so little black girls need to walk 20 miles a day to get clean water

@@charlesta654 WTF are you talking about?

if you were more intelligent, you'd realize that the real thieves are the ones in red coats...

@@ascend2me Yes, I'm aware that the Britts were real bastards.

Unfathomably based

WTF?....

... lol 😂

ahahaha that's mean ! 😝

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or bradford

Welcome to "progressive" Europe.

No, it was made in 1964. Zulu Dawn was released in 1979, 100th anniversary of the war in 1879.

probably from an invader to the uk

come to Gateshead in the 40s and you will get a bit of Stouch, even with the Zulus bless em. Politically correct comments on here shows the total ignorance of the young prats that are being shafted by their teachers and know nothing.

Yes but do you think British soldiers didn't have hand to hand combat experience? Come on. Not to mention they won the battle.

Not to the same standards as the British Army though.

British mate. Bayonets with a bit of guts behind them.

They chant " usuthu usuthu " which means kill.

no they said give us money for fresh water because the buffalos keep shitting in our wells 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😋

Yes, rebar was invented in the 1850s

Pharaoh had bricks made with Straw!

Not rebar, More likely it was a building technique similar to, if not actually Wattle and Daub. Basically, it is long thin sticks or branches woven or stacked between the load-bearing pillars or beams that make up the wall, then coated in either clay, plaster, or other materials that can be applied wet but can be smoothed flat and when it dried out it formed a decent weatherproofer for its time.

Hahaha 🤣😂 Ya right ! Hahaha 😂🤣

It appears that the Zulu was a "imperial superpower" in the region.

You mean like Afganistán or ucraine 😅

Accurately, the only way they should portray history.

@@Pucukax I agree. Although increasingly, accuracy plays less of a part than sensitivity.

Over 200 zulus participated in this film, and I think that they and the filmakers made a good job of protraying them as disciplined and brave warriors, not some wild mindless savages.

Pretty much, not one of these British soldiers would be voting for these leftists. World has changed

Nope. Another win for the Empire.

This film was made in the 60s, of course the acting is nothing compared to today’s. But I think the acting was pretty decent for its time and it honestly had me cheering for both sides. I don’t see how you think it’s biased, It did a good job at showing the bravery on both sides . But after all the British did win the battle so it makes sense why it could be inclined more towards the British.

Books can easily be filled with bias and falsities as anything else.

typical of that sort. They don't like a fair fight.