Yoder Outdoor Furnaces LLC. Floyd, Va

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@dish7921 20 күн бұрын

Do you use hi temp silicone before the rope is put in? And regular silicone on the outside of the rope that will go against the firebox/ash pan?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 20 күн бұрын

@@dish7921 We use regular 100% silicone behind the rope, but high temp if it's on the face of the firebox door rope where the flame hits it.

@DSmith-xf5xi 24 күн бұрын

Would you ever wipe any of these surfaces clean or use some sort of chemical on them to prevent rusting, etc? Thanks! First time owner of a G7000.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 23 күн бұрын

@@DSmith-xf5xi it's all stainless, so no need to get exceptionally clean or prevent rust. Just scrape off ash buildup.

@semarugaijin9451 26 күн бұрын

That looks like an awesome idea

@semarugaijin9451 26 күн бұрын

What is that thing burning? And is that legal in every state?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 26 күн бұрын

That is a coal burning outdoor boiler. According to the EPA it is legal to heat a residence with, but different towns and cities have their own rules. Most rural areas are fine.

@semarugaijin9451 27 күн бұрын

nice watch! : D

@mikecox7180 Ай бұрын

Would a C series burn less wood than an old hardy straight pipe.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Ай бұрын

@@mikecox7180 A lot less. Probably at least a third less.

@JeffB1961 Ай бұрын

oh yeah ! loose them eyebrows a time or two and you learn to be sure you're standing to the side . and don't open the door when you hear the fan running LOL

@CosmicToy Ай бұрын

thats fun. have washer withe a hot connector?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Ай бұрын

Yes, I have melted snow on my sidewalk with hot water. Never tried the pressure washer idea yet.

@godscountry4683 Ай бұрын

Eli what do you do when you have stuck turbulators

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Ай бұрын

I get the furnace up to temperature and take a giant pry bar and pry each one up individually. If it’s creosote it can be helpful to dump diesel fuel down each exhaust tube and try to burn it out. I have also heard other dealers say that orange cleaner works to break down creosote as well, but haven’t had the chance to try it yet. If it’s ash, it’s usually only the bottom three inches that are plugged. A high tensile fencing wire run down the tube with a drill can loosen the ash plug a lot of times.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Ай бұрын

Afterward though you'd want to determine why they stuck in the first place. It's usually wet wood, a damper not opening, an ash clog (no airflow), or loading too much wood in warm weather. Getting to the source of the problem is important.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Ай бұрын

Thanks.

@storytimemech Ай бұрын

A suggestion change your name and make it a bit shorter it makes it easier to find people but keep but keep up the good work

@user-bv2ok8wh8e 2 ай бұрын

excellent your video

@larryfannon3252 2 ай бұрын

Great video and great timing. I’m about done heating my pool and it’s time to get dirty!

@ssprofirewood 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing that.

@lumberjackmatt7724 3 ай бұрын

This was a great video!!!!!! Perfect instructional video.

@lumberjackmatt7724 3 ай бұрын

Would you load the wood front to back or sideways in stove?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 3 ай бұрын

@@lumberjackmatt7724 lengthwise works best in that model.

@gregsavchuk3239 5 ай бұрын

My neighbor asked me to run his G4K while he was on vacation, no training provided... Now I'm a pro... Thx...

@benrogers5096 5 ай бұрын

I fill it with wood and it burns 14hrs, burned 3-1/2 cord so far plus hot water. I have my house temp 75 and water runs through a 60 plate heat exchanger to heat water in oil boiler

@PJ-si2po 6 ай бұрын

Can you fill the boiler with glycol in winter in the far north to prevent lines from freezing

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 6 ай бұрын

Some people do. I haven't used it in the south for quite a few years. I just make sure the pump circulates.

@MrGotja 7 ай бұрын

How do your store a c250 if it will not be in use for a few years? Can it just be drained and powered off?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 7 ай бұрын

Yes, if it's just being turned off for a few weeks I would just let the pump run and turn off the draft fan. But if it's going to be several years I would drain it, also removing the pump flange so that the water drains out of the pump. And just turn it off and cap the chimney and it'll be fine.

@LORFCASTER 7 ай бұрын

Cant believe how small the exhaust pinch point is at the output of that fan. Is there a way to oil / grease the fan so that is lasts ? That would be pretty legendary for modern day times lol. To show us what surfaces are in contact with the water jacket and what surfaces are " dry " would be extremely helpful. Either a diagram / animation or just pointing and saying. Also, as much technical specs on the material as possible is always appreciated to throw in ( i.e various types of metal used ). Did i miss you say where these are made ?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 7 ай бұрын

All parts are 409 stainless. Except a few pieces like the legs, handles, etc. They're made in Manitoba. The water jacket surrounds the firebox, reburn area, and exhaust tubes. Someday I'll have time to make a video with more details, but that'll be during the summer season I'd guess.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 7 ай бұрын

The fan has sealed bearings, no oil ports.

@TheRussellStover 7 ай бұрын

7:30. You mention it should be cleaned out ever now and then. How often is that? Once a month or once a season?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 7 ай бұрын

I would say check it every few months until you see how clean your wood is burning. It really varies a lot depending on moisture, the type of firewood etc. Cleaning intervals vary dramatically depending on what you're doing with the stove.

@AATreeService 8 ай бұрын

Would be awesome to have a dealer like you close by. Heat master ALMOST nailed it with the old system and the flapper on top. Mount the fan direct to the stove and drop the flap on the fan top. Best way to do this. Natures comfort did this successfully for 15 years. Less moving parts and more fail safe!

@AATreeService 8 ай бұрын

What’s the depth of the firebox on that c250 One of the best things I’ve ever done for door gaskets is set them 3/8” too tight, smash the door shut and let that gasket indent into and AROUND the door frame. 10 years on the original door gasket.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 8 ай бұрын

Makes sense on the gasket. Firebox is 34" long x 32" W x 38" tall.

@AATreeService 8 ай бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC wish U were closer to me, I been thinking about upgrading to a 375

@brittanykeener2329 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video of information. You saved me a lot of money by not having to call the furnace guy. Problem was a broken spring on damper box.

@TheStevedie 9 ай бұрын

I really want to buy an outdoor wood boiler. I love having my woodstove in the basement but having to bring the wood in is a pain. Plus the OWB would make it easier to maintain a constant temperature. The last time I looked the G4000 was $12,500 before tax...so i can't justify it just yet lol.

@user-nn2yu5lf2g 9 ай бұрын

Hello and good evening where did you get the staple gun from

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 9 ай бұрын

I've had it quite a while, I think it was on pexuniverse.com.

@user-nn2yu5lf2g 9 ай бұрын

Hello and good evening where did you get the staple gun from

@Leach03XX 9 ай бұрын

What a great vidoe. I bought my house 2 years ago and its been intresting to say the least trying to figure out this Machine. Thank you

@eddiestonerbud7188 9 ай бұрын

I used to hate having to do this

@krismyth 9 ай бұрын

I see it now, thanks

@krismyth 9 ай бұрын

Why man?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 9 ай бұрын

To secure the pex loops in place before pouring the slab.

@randymathews5217 10 ай бұрын

I sure could have used an instructional video like this 10 years ago when I bought my 10000 e. I went thru a long and frustrating learning curve , this would have helped a lot. I have purchased parts from you even though I live 20 miles north of Dayton, Ohio, that will continue. Also my unit is much to large for what we are heating , any suggestions?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 10 ай бұрын

Usually an oversized furnace isn't a huge problem, as long as you just load only the amount of what it needs for a 12-hour burn. So just load it light, if you overload it you'll get a lot more condensation.

@randymathews5217 10 ай бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC

@randymathews5217 10 ай бұрын

you are the man, thanks a lot!

@justinw4503 10 ай бұрын

Awesome video. Much appreciated. Great dealer!!!!

@dish7921 10 ай бұрын

Appreciate the videos. I’ll be Installing a new C375. Is there a direction that is preferred to face the furnace? I was planning on having the door facing the wind. That way the wind is at my back while loading the boiler. Unless it is better facing a different direction?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 10 ай бұрын

That's a good idea. I would do the same.

@jaredrohde3246 11 ай бұрын

Is there any way to set a probe directly into the pool water to shut off the circulation pump when the pool gets to hot and turns back on when it drops down to a certain temp to turn the circulation pump back on so as to not burn as much wood yet keep the pool at steady temp. I have a 24 round above ground with a large central boiler with a 300k tube and shell heat exchanger. Not sure the ranco deal would work for me. Any help would be greatly appreciated!. Thanks

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 11 ай бұрын

A Ranco would hold it within 1 degree. I just tape the probe to the pool piping with foil tape and insulate it. It reads very close. The Ranco switches on and off the power to the pump to maintain even temp in the pool.

@jaredrohde3246 11 ай бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC I guess I'm confused because the pool pipe going into the return jet is close to 185 degrees and drops down when my stove temp drops down so how would I get a consent temp read when my plumbing is changing all the time

@jaredrohde3246 11 ай бұрын

My heat exchanger is between the sand filter and the pool return

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 11 ай бұрын

@@jaredrohde3246 yes, that sounds like it should work. Just tape the probe on before the heat exchanger.

@brianlarose6110 11 ай бұрын

Furnaces heat air, boilers heat water. Sorry I'm in the HVAC business so this is a pet peeve of mine. :o)

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 11 ай бұрын

True, you are correct. The problem in this scenario is that technically an open unpressurized system (such as this) wouldn't be a boiler either. The correct term would be a hydronic heater, but nobody knows what that is.

@brianlarose6110 11 ай бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Not sure I agree that just because it's an open system it isn't a boiler adding the heat. Not all boilers make steam, and not all systems are closed loop. Fact still remains that the heat exchanger is either designed for air (furnace) or water (boiler). By definition a boiler is an appliance that heats water, not necessarily building pressure (of course this is a consequence in a closed loop, but not the sole purpose).

@brianlarose6110 11 ай бұрын

I have found definitions of boiler that do say "enclosed vessel", so maybe we can just agree to disagree. ha!

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 11 ай бұрын

@@brianlarose6110 sure, that makes sense. :)

@brianlarose6110 11 ай бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC While I have your attention - for a salt water pool with chlorine generator (so not ocean water), is 306 stainless ok or absolutely go with a titanium heat exchanger? It's not like they make any pool heaters with titanium heat exchangers, so I'm wondering if a stainless tube heat exchanger would last say 10 plus years. I'm tired of sh*t atmospheric burner pool heaters with time bomb control panels.

@Twindadx2_ Жыл бұрын

Any updates on how this worked for you? I have a similar setup without the Ranco. I have a 56000 L inground pool with a 300k Stainless steel tube heat exchanger. This is heated with my outdoor wood boiler. I am finding that it is not really heating up well. I have a 2hp pump and am wondering if the pool water is pumping thru to quick. Boiler is at 165F

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

I've done quite a few pool heaters this way. They heat up at about 1/2 to 1 degree F per hour depending on pool size, flow rates, weather, etc. Reducing the flow rate on the pool side is not going to help it heat up better. The more flow you have the quicker the btu's will transfer. A couple of possibilities, you could have air trapped in the stove side of the pool heater. I don't know what size pump you have or what distance you're pumping from the stove, so there may be other issues also. I would need to know a bit of detail to start troubleshooting.

@Twindadx2_ Жыл бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Thanks for the quick reply. The boiler pump is on the back of the stove. So 60' into the house, goes thru a 70 plate heat exchanger that also heats the house water, then out to the pool about 100' away. So the boiler pump is circulating thru aprox 160' of 1" pex and the 70 plate heat exchanger before getting to the pool. I figured there was enough heat at the pool because you can barely touch the inlet side of the pool heat exchanger because it is so hot. You can also feel less heat on the outlet side so it appears to be transferring heat to the pool. Maybe I need to run a separate pump on the pool side of the heat exchanger

@Locust_Hill_Farm Жыл бұрын

Hope you still have some c150 if you do could you tell me a price will be buying on for my new house build this year

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

Right now the C150 (without install) is $8200. I have several 2022 models I could discount by $500, which would bring it down to $7700. But those will be gone soon.

@Locust_Hill_Farm Жыл бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC how much more is the install going within 50-75 ft from house

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

@@Locust_Hill_Farm I'm assuming you're in the area we work in (within 100 miles of Floyd VA). An install at that distance to a water heater and air handler would typically add about $2800. But multiple air handlers and some other scenarios could vary that price. Feel free to call me on my cell and we can discuss details. 540-250-2495.

@endlessmusicllc3496 Жыл бұрын

Great vid!! Thank you!

@lionelscott5839 Жыл бұрын

I have four of these working for the last five years on electric hot water heaters,I control the water temperature using a three way switch ,power from the electrical panel is delivered to an electrical box using a number 12 three wire so I have a neutral wire. The wires from the hot water heater are taken to this box also all connections are made in this box, the three way switch is also in this box along with a cube relay having a 120 volt coil. The boiler is a vies-man 100 , temperatures of domestic hot water is controlled by existing thermostats found in the water heater , three way switch is used so that in one position the cube relay is activated to supply a tt to boiler control so it can switch from heating to ramping it boiler water temperature to make domestic hot water , three way switch in other positions and domestic hot water is made by the 240 volt electrical elements as a stand alone tank ,this set up uses all the safety over heat controls in the water tank and all wiring is in the new junction box.

@NorthStarAttitudes Жыл бұрын

Coal got so expensive this last fall that we decided to let our big “C” series go idle.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

Yes, it has gone up a lot. As has a lot of things.

@nebraskawoodstr Жыл бұрын

Just watched your video and was very helpful. Started my channel last year. Thanks

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

Glad you found it useful. Thanks.

@benjiemullins5498 Жыл бұрын

Hey Eldon ,sure am enjoying my g4000

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

Great!

@brittanykeener2329 Жыл бұрын

just bought a new headmaster last year and need to replace the door seal. What's the difference between the white and black fire rope ?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

Can you describe what black fire rope you are referring to? The G series models have black high temperature silicone spread on top of the fiberglass rope, it helps make a tighter seal. Have you tried adjusting the door rollers tighter? Typically in the first year that's all you need to do rather than replace the whole rope seal.

@gstephenson3498 Жыл бұрын

Can you show how to fill and insert float?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

I do have a video specifically about the float. Look for HeatMaster water level float in the other videos. Thank you.

@richardboggs260 Жыл бұрын

Maybe as soon as you purchase boiler you should remove fan from motor and install anti sieze on the motor shaft and inside diameter of the fan

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting idea, I'm not sure if it would stop ash/creosote from building up or not.

@godscountry4683 7 ай бұрын

These furnaces are garbage

@JeffB1961 7 ай бұрын

@@godscountry4683 why do you say that ?

@ronholsinger5832 Жыл бұрын

What's the difference between the GS200 and a G7000?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

G7000 is slightly larger, has a double pass reburn, about 10% better efficiency. The G7000 will also have the smoke bypass. The G7000 is basically a updated model with higher efficiency and a few more features than the old GS series.

@ronholsinger5832 Жыл бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC ok thanks for the info

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

@@ronholsinger5832 Sure. They stopped making the GS200 in 2018, there was a basic model G200 in 2019 similar to the GS. Then the G7000 came out in 2020.

@andrewseamans1419 Жыл бұрын

Is this unit meant to burn coal? Thanks

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Жыл бұрын

The C series furnaces were tested with coal. That is its intended fuel. The EPA regulations do not allow for wood burning, since it didn't pass a wood burning emissions test.

@robn.7426 2 жыл бұрын

My MF 3000 is overheating. I checked the solenoid because it went bad last year causing overheating. It's not working again. However, the weird thing is that I wire tied the solenoid shut and the stove is still overheating. Also, the water level is showing full when it's getting hot and when it is cool. it seems like the water level increased even though no one added water - I'm assuming that's not possible as it's a closed system. The temps from the stove to the house are showing 15 degrees or so different with no water or heat running in the house. I feel like it normally shows 5 - 10 degrees different. I'm wondering if the pump is running slow, but has not stopped running completely. Is that possible? The gaskets do need to be replaced I think, but this overheating happened all of a sudden. They've been the same all winter. One other thing. If you could control this method of burning, the stove is far more efficient. It's been cold and windy today and the stove has stayed hot (in the 190's though set on 165) with only a few sticks of wood in it!? If it operated like that all the time I wouldn't have to burn nearly as much wood. Unfortunately it's not a controlled burn. I'll check and see if something is causing the air box flap to remain open tomorrow. I'm baffled. I'm especially baffled about the water level going up even though everyone says they did not add water. I have had the stove overheat before and have seen the water level go up, but it always goes back down a little once the stove cools off. Not this time... weird. In fact I could swear I noticed the water level was up before the stove ever overheated.

@robn.7426 2 жыл бұрын

Also, what is the other damper on the bottom for? The one with that you can set from full open to closed or anything in between. I closed it as well to try to cut off any air, but no change in overheating.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 2 жыл бұрын

@@robn.7426 The other damper at the bottom is to control the total amount of air, but doesn't shut off tight enough to stop boiling. Leave it open. It is possible that the impeller on your pump is partially broken and isn't circulating water well. You could open and close the valve right above the pump and listen for the whoosh of the water going through. You could also close both valves and unbolt the pump and turn it over to see the impeller. The reason you're not burning much wood is because the weather is considerably warmer and so the house isn't pulling much heat off the stove. It is somewhat cold and windy but nothing like it was back in January. I would be pretty certain that you have an air leak somewhere, probably an ash pan gasket or firebox door gasket. It's hard to say for sure without going over it very carefully.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 2 жыл бұрын

Also, I would remove the fan and check the flap in the airbox underneath, it's possible that there's a bit of grit under the flap that is holding it up slightly. It doesn't take a very big crack to cause boiling and warmer spring weather. I don't know why your water level is showing high, since I'm not there seeing what it is doing at different temperatures.

@robn.7426 2 жыл бұрын

@@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've had the stove for 8 years or so, I'm pretty familiar with how it burns on different weather days, but maybe I'm imagining things. Thank you for the recommendations. I will check those things. I did notice also that the ash pan door was closing easier so maybe something changed with the gasket, but it doesn't look any different. Thanks again for your help.

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 2 жыл бұрын

@@robn.7426 You could adjust the rollers in further to tighten up the seal. You could also light some oily rags (or something that smokes) in the ashpan, the smoke will push out any crack. Hope you get this sorted out!

@InnerCitySlickersTV 2 жыл бұрын

Will Heat Master firebox last as long as Central or Crown Royal boxes?

@YoderOutdoorFurnacesLLC 2 жыл бұрын

It should, both firebox and water jacket are stainless. Did you have something specific in mind as a concern?

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