I Know of a doctrine whose foundation is laid on 0 verses. The trinity
@carlosandresmejiagomez1112Сағат бұрын
You should study historic adventism, what Trinitarians claim to be the paradigm shift in the trinity is the desire of ages. Were we not sola scriptura? Just as you said, they went to what they thought EGW meant and tried tonfind it in the Bible
@carlosandresmejiagomez1112Сағат бұрын
Where does the Bible affirm that the Holy Spirit is a differenr person from the Father and the Son? Usually evidence comes from EGW. Please do share😊
@carlosandresmejiagomez1112Сағат бұрын
"Just be cause you see something, does not mean that IS true" Interesting phrase comming from a trinitarian. The trinity is not found in scripture, so it is not only thinking that what you see is true, it is believeing in something that is not even in the text. Food for thought.
@powerofthelamb52 минут бұрын
@@carlosandresmejiagomez1112 really such a shame the amount of energy anti trinitarians out into this. The confusion is astounding.
@mauricethomas70902 сағат бұрын
13:30 of this video I have concern with “ The Word existed as a divine being” how many divine beings are there. John 1:1; The Word was with God and the Word was God. John 1: 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, ( and we beheld his glory, the glory os of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. “Mediator of the covenant” Hebrews12:24 Jesus mediator of the new covenant, Hebrews 9:15 mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheitance.
@powerofthelamb2 сағат бұрын
@@mauricethomas7090 No need for concern. The same quote calls him “God.” Jesus was not one of many divine beings. He is God.
@mauricethomas7090Сағат бұрын
@@powerofthelamb Correct he is not a divine being, according to scripture he is God, Hebrews 1:1-14, Rev 1:7-8, Colossians 1:15-20, John 20:26-29.
@powerofthelamb58 минут бұрын
@@mauricethomas7090 God is divine.
@Nirky2 сағат бұрын
"While Jacob was earnest in prayer, stirring up himself to take hold on God, an angel takes hold on him. Some think this was a created angel, the angel of his presence (Isa. 63:9), one of those that always behold the face of our Father and attend on the shechinah, or the divine Majesty, which probably Jacob had also in view. Others think it was Michael our prince, the eternal Word, the angel of the covenant, who is indeed the Lord of the angels, who often appeared in a human shape before he assumed the human nature for a perpetuity; whichsoever it was, we are sure God’s name was in him, Exod. 23:21." Matthew Henry, Matthew Henry's Commentary, Genesis chapter 32, verses 24-32
@powerofthelamb2 сағат бұрын
@@Nirky nice find!
@Nirky2 сағат бұрын
"'Yet Michael the archangel ...' By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ ..." -- John Gill, An Exposition of the New Testament.
@Nirky2 сағат бұрын
"Michael is the Lord Jesus, the only Archangel. We, like Aim, and under him, must stand as champions for the truth, never to surrender, but being prepared to suffer, even unto blood, striving against sin." --Charles Spurgeon, "The Angelic Life", November 1868
@mauricethomas70903 сағат бұрын
From EGW writing website: The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor. If this prince of angels could but attain to his true, exalted position, great good would accrue to the entire host of heaven; for it was his object to secure freedom for all. But now even the liberty which they had hitherto enjoyed was at an end; for an absolute Ruler had been appointed them, and to His authority all must pay homage. Such were the subtle deceptions that through the wiles of Lucifer were fast obtaining in the heavenly courts. PP 37.1 I saw that Moses passed through death, but Michael came down and gave him life before he saw corruption. Satan claimed the body as his, but Michael resurrected Moses, and took him to heaven. The Devil tried to hold his body, and railed out bitterly against God, denounced him as unjust, in taking from him his prey. But Michael did not rebuke the Devil, although it was through his temptation and power that God's servant had fallen. Christ meekly referred him to his Father, saying, The Lord rebuke thee.. 1SG 43.1
@lcbd956 сағат бұрын
Hey Pastor do you guys have plans on cutting the video to just have the study and not the entire service? and second is will the text slides be available to download somewhere?
@user-rt2jm9pd2y6 сағат бұрын
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@ElmaStewartHollid7 сағат бұрын
Is it true that sister Nafer pass on??
@powerofthelamb7 сағат бұрын
@@ElmaStewartHollid Unfortunately yes.
@lambandalion829 сағат бұрын
The question is where did get the quote from ..he didn't make it up. thats why you all want go on the show or debate your critics . You argruments dont stand
@lambandalion829 сағат бұрын
EGW is full of double talk ...its not that hard guys
@powerofthelamb8 сағат бұрын
@@lambandalion82 kinda like skeptics saying the Bible is full of double talk.
@lambandalion826 сағат бұрын
@@powerofthelamb there’s no question on the authority of Scripture.
@powerofthelamb6 сағат бұрын
@@lambandalion82 pretty biased. The skeptic of the Bible looks at you much the same way you look at us.
@lambandalion829 сағат бұрын
You all are using slight of hand to excuse EGW.
@powerofthelamb8 сағат бұрын
@@lambandalion82 did you see the slight if hand use by Mason and Elce. It would be strange how you can miss that and yet spot this alleged sleight of hand.
@lambandalion827 сағат бұрын
@@powerofthelamb no I didn’t. They quoted official SDA doctrine. Your fundamental beliefs. No sleight of hand. You can pull one or two Ellen White quotes to try to excuse this but those quotes doesn’t exhaust Ellen white words on the topic... the real defense of you all invite thunder and miles on your show. No more echo chambers
@powerofthelamb7 сағат бұрын
@@lambandalion82 😂
@powerofthelamb7 сағат бұрын
@@lambandalion82 I have no words.
@lambandalion829 сағат бұрын
why would you need a lesser light to lead to a greater light?
@tamayreid1215Сағат бұрын
Why do we need the moon?
@jwesKeys10 сағат бұрын
Preston asked him if the Clear Word Bible denies that Jesus is God and Elce says that we say Jesus is Michael (Which is not denying that Jesus is God) and then jumps to mis representing what Ellen White said about Jesus and not continuing to show where the Clear Word Bible (which is not a bible translation) denies that Jesus is the almighty God. Smh. This is intentional deception. I can’t see it any other way.
@powerofthelamb8 сағат бұрын
@@jwesKeys absolute intentional. He probably was surprised and did not expect that line of questions and this on the hot seat had no option but to lie to keep his lie looking like the truth.
@Crabtree184415 сағат бұрын
I read somewhere in this lifetime, when the pioneers in the faith shall die, there would be many, new in the faith, who would sometimes accept as messages of truth teachings that contain erroneous sentiments and dangerous fallacies. And errors of this sort will be entertained by some until the close of this earth's history. As for me and my household, as I approach the close the earth's history, I must expect many more dangerous heresies to creep into the church corridors. I thank God there are those who stand in defense of truth and are rebuking and correcting those who are advancing error.
@busyd758519 сағат бұрын
Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone. They are blinded by Satan my dear brother. Pray that God will turn them as he did to Saul.
@SunShine-f4oКүн бұрын
If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God. 3T 280.3 PRAISE GOD for Pr Myers and Pr Gibson
@SunShine-f4oКүн бұрын
"Meet it!" I had my orders. I had heard the words, like a living voice from our Captain, “Meet it!” I knew what my duty was and that there was not a moment to lose. The time for decided action had come. I must without delay obey the command, “Meet it!” Letters and Manuscripts - Volume 18 (1903) 243/524 Lt 238, 1903
@Ahuihou-km7enКүн бұрын
Pastor Myers thank you for breaking The Truth down on what the Adventist Church Truly believes because when I heard the Perry’s my jaw was touching the ground!!! 🤯🤯🤯 I was incredulous 🤨
@ElmaStewartHollidКүн бұрын
That's why God promised to seal His people and settle them into the truth both spiritually and intellectually so that they can not be moved. And Jesus promised that He would give us what to say so that none of our adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. Luke chapter 21 verse 15. And for those who say we do use scriptures here's another scripture Revelation chapter 12 verse 17 if the dragon is not angry at us, we belong to him, so ill take my stand with sdas 🎉🎉 Give them bible study sda.
@NiddishКүн бұрын
The Holy Spirit is our teacher and He will teach through men that He has anointed and I believe you are one of those men!
@ania4317Күн бұрын
This young man clearly does not know what the sda church believe in. Im sorry for him and he is leading people astray. Lord have mercy upon him. This is good for we sda to know what we believe in
@joel_telisКүн бұрын
Nailed it. Love it.
@JerubbaalgodSlayerКүн бұрын
I’m with D. "Go and speed-sin no more!" So grateful for what Jesus did for me on that cruel cross. I love Him and will keep His commandments! 🫶🇨🇦
@Joy_InTheJourney_1Co13Күн бұрын
In the process of listening. Would you please reach out to The Perry's? Not sure if you have. I think a discussion with each other would be more powerful than discussions about each other. Comment can often be lost in translation but clarified in a dynamic conversation. ❤️🙏🏽🕊
@powerofthelambКүн бұрын
@@Joy_InTheJourney_1Co13 Already tried. They won’t.
@raynemoonunitКүн бұрын
pray for Elce (and the congregation he was in), because if thats what they were being taught from the pulpit in the church he attended, that is so sad. He seems to have been taught so many things that are not true (including that the clear word is the SDAs Bible). If he was honestly taught these things instead of truth (and if he was, then that should be addressed by the conference if it already hasn't been), of course he would be discouraged/disillusioned when he found out those things were not the truth. if he wasn't taught these things then he needs prayer just as much.
@MAGWARO1Күн бұрын
Ellen G White was born in 1827 and she started receiving her visions when she was 17yrs old bringing which is in 1844, the termination of the 2300days of Dan 8:14 and Dan 9:25. I was waiting for you to mention that Pastor Ivors.
@marywilson1602 күн бұрын
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@Candie4JC2 күн бұрын
It sounds like he didn’t pay attention in any classes or he got stuck in an off shoot SDA group because I’d NEVER heard MOST of what he talked about. I feel bad for Elce tbh. He was taught by SDAs who don’t even understand the beliefs within the denomination 😅
@marywilson1602 күн бұрын
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@Candie4JC2 күн бұрын
Poor Pr Ivor, he’s exhausted 😂 it’s the huffing and puffing of disappointment after every clip for me 😂😂😂😂. I feel the same way, pastor. I is tiiiired!
@user-kp8yp1hj5t2 күн бұрын
Pastor Meyers i would like your slides. i'm subscribed to your channel. how will you send them so i know to look for them?
@powerofthelambКүн бұрын
@@user-kp8yp1hj5t you can find them under the full length response.
@AllRoadLeadsToAhayah2 күн бұрын
The root of Jesse can make the wormwood sweet 😮❤ That was a great teaching on bitterness. Thank you
@marywilson1602 күн бұрын
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@marywilson1602 күн бұрын
Cmplete
@brandonwydeman25222 күн бұрын
Drop the mike!!
@brandonwydeman25222 күн бұрын
I want the slides
@towanpeze2 күн бұрын
I'm glad you are passionate. We're supposed to contend for the faith!!!
@christiannenelson47512 күн бұрын
Praise the Lord, note’s taken. Deep analysis like that forces me to study more. We have to learn not to take digested meal from others. We have to study for ourselves. Thank you very much brother and sister Myers God bless your ministry
@FitnesswithJesus1512 күн бұрын
Amen! Yes how do we get slides now would be amazingly helpful! God Bless you!
@philippgenece80112 күн бұрын
D
@samdzveta65522 күн бұрын
Thanx Pastor for laying bare false claims about the deity of CHRIST. Let's just pray for Elce and company to receive mercy for peddling these falsehoods against Adventist teachings. We don't hate them, but they must desist from what they are doing.
@Candie4JC2 күн бұрын
I hope you’re putting some of these clips on IG and TikTok as reels & as shorts on KZfaq because that’ll draw many to more these full length videos are up.
@ladyjbridge13202 күн бұрын
How can someone just listen to this man? He can just say something about the SDA Church and he can speak for the whole church and all of its members?!!
@Candie4JC2 күн бұрын
I hope you’re putting some of these clips on IG and TikTok as reels & as shorts on KZfaq because that’ll draw many to more these full length videos are up. Also, I’d like your slides, please.
@DylanKhulie2 күн бұрын
This is powerful.....can i please have your slides Pastor