How to practice fly casting
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basic spey casting
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cool casting introduction
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@jaaron2834
@jaaron2834 11 сағат бұрын
Hey there Michael,.. Ive been watching your vids for a bit and I get what you're trying to convey to others ... and it makes total sense to me ... Most instructors will only teach you their style and only their style...with that being said,.. every instructor has their style and insist on you doing what they say.. not everyone has the same exact cast,.. just like billiards ... you will never get the same exact break.. not ever in a million years... everyone will develop their own style ..I am saying the because .. where I practice ... everyone seems to think they are "The Shit"... and I know better and so do you ... I take in everything I see and learn ... then I evaluate my casting as well... Kudos to you ! 👍😎🤙
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you brother. Much appreciated. And good to see that there are still tru and honorable sportsman out there. Check out the fixed line exercise from my last two vids and try it please if you want to do us a favour and give feedback on that. I only try to be the possible caster I can too. And if something doesn't help me, I ditch it without looking back. It's a pity that I found out so late only. Good man , happy casting and TL
@jaaron2834
@jaaron2834 4 сағат бұрын
@@coolcaster I certainly will check your videos as I am always wanting to learn more styles of casting... I see that your style has many applications as every situation will be different....I find most instructors are clock watchers... I've never taken any casting classes ....for this very reason .. although ,.. I've known Tim Rajeff since high school... all he's ever done was ..tell me what to and what not to do and from that,. I've done quite well ...but one will never stop learning... 🤙😎👍
@SurfSkagit
@SurfSkagit 2 күн бұрын
Just plug and play 😎 Is getting better and better every single time. I can put the overhang length anywhere I want and see for myself how the system best and more efficiently works before it collapsed and getting the feedback of why it’s happening if we do A and what’s happening if we do B, but also even with a total unbalance system or extra long overhang, I’m able to get a tremendous amount of feedback from the level coated shooting line and be able to move the energy in a wave form along the line to the end of the fixed line point without stopping or feeling any load over the rod blank, this is fantastic, no retrieving no distance casting any line, no distractions, just stay connected to the feedbacks, to the flow …plug and play guys 😎🤩 Thank you again for sharing
@JosephOng
@JosephOng 3 күн бұрын
Very good points Michael. I will try it soon.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 3 күн бұрын
Please do and let me know how you get on sir.
@JosephOng
@JosephOng 3 күн бұрын
@@coolcaster Setup is basically the same as yours but I attached a rubber band to the end of the leader and to the water bottle. It's a good mode to practice but I think that "blowing of anchor" or proper anchor management cannot be practiced/controlled. Other than that, it's a great static practice tool that can be used anywhere.
@turninflat
@turninflat 3 күн бұрын
Simply wonderful. Have fun with it and play around and you will learn so much.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 3 күн бұрын
Thanks bro. I agree.
@johnnicholson4862
@johnnicholson4862 5 күн бұрын
Brilliant, thanks.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 3 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@kerryjordan7746
@kerryjordan7746 7 күн бұрын
Enjoyed the video Michael but please allow me to make some constructive criticism: the video is twice as long as it needs to be and there are too many distracting pop-ups. Just my opinion…
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 6 күн бұрын
Thanks bro. I value your comment. Pls try the fixed line for me. I put up less pop ups next time if u feed me back on the fixed line, sir. I m only learning this and the footage was bad and dark in pieces, so I also.did that a bit to distract from my bad filming skills. Just a bit of fun too. Alexander grant was real though, as the fixed line is. Cheers man.
@kerryjordan7746
@kerryjordan7746 6 күн бұрын
Thank you Michael - I will certainly try the fixed line! 😊
@kerryjordan7746
@kerryjordan7746 4 күн бұрын
Tried the fixed line in my garden yesterday 👌 and also confirmed that a “hard stop” isn’t necessary.
@dirkleroux6296
@dirkleroux6296 7 күн бұрын
Your best work yet, Michael. Now just ditch the CCC, you don't need it!
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 7 күн бұрын
Thanks, would you be so kind and explain to me what CCC is?
@dirkleroux6296
@dirkleroux6296 7 күн бұрын
👍 Criticise, condemn & complain (Dale Carnegie term)
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the help. I look into it. Statistics of my yt channel though show unfortunately the opposite: ccc gets the better views , ctr and engagement. I also think that ff needs to unlearn a few toxic lessons and I got banned and bullied by toxic teachers who hinder the sport. They make more problems than they solve. I solve these problems. I hope u give the fixed line a rattle and I thank you for your time and advice. You re probably even right.... But why do the stats say different 🤔?
@turninflat
@turninflat 7 күн бұрын
the idea, that one should play with a fly rod, line, and leader is exactly how I've come to teach. I have created competitive games for my grandson with the goals of distance and accuracy. Start with a short line, and extend to the limits of ability... enjoyed this video..
@SurfSkagit
@SurfSkagit 7 күн бұрын
The way I experience Michael’s approach is revealing. This is how I see it 🤔 To the naked eye looks is a stop, at the vibrational level is definitely not a stop, and we don’t know how to control it under,the old instructional “ loops concept “ forms of fly casting, it should be fly fisherman all over if the loops are the right path to drive people to fly fishing since this form of fishing started .!!! this needs to be fixed or this beautiful game is going to continue to be frustrating at beginning level and probably that’s why newcomers quitting rates are 7 of the 10 !! I was wrong, I was told wrongly and so I did to the next guy in line, to my instructors, friends and mentors, thank you all, but the secret to a good casting is not behind a good STOP. Thank you Michael!! Great work, do not stop sharing, it might take awhile but you are definitely in the right path!! Grant was definitely up to something 😇
@kerryjordan7746
@kerryjordan7746 17 күн бұрын
3D space trumps 2D plane - yes!
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 17 күн бұрын
How would it not? pac man vs counter strike, welcome to the new awesomeness of fly casting
@MichailKutsurov
@MichailKutsurov 17 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@SurfSkagit
@SurfSkagit 18 күн бұрын
So many valuable info here to only be watched once!! … guys, this clip is like you find the dude who was with Michelangelo and he just told you in only 15 minutes, everything you need to know to create the Sistine chapel and because you are cool it throws you how to do a round trip to the moon in a weekend, the best part, you will finally feel how, where, when and why the cast is done!! Congratulations Michael, a brilliant presentation 🫡
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 17 күн бұрын
thanks for your support, brother
@jaaron2834
@jaaron2834 18 күн бұрын
Hey there Michael,... Cool how you say it like it is,... no bullshit 👍😎🤙 I find it conveys the message directly and to the point as some instructors will sugar coat what they're saying to their subjects,... I've watched these so called instructors let their student do it wrong without correction for the entire session .... I glance at them and shake head in disgust to let them know whats up ...clock watchers for your money
@est9662
@est9662 18 күн бұрын
Good talk and nice casting there 😎
@turninflat
@turninflat 18 күн бұрын
there are so many subtle, and valuable points contained in this video. Viewer, especially beginners, should watch repeatedly.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 17 күн бұрын
thanks for your support, brother
@theskankster
@theskankster 18 күн бұрын
lube up instructors! new rebholz just dropped :D
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 17 күн бұрын
Loop up 😜
@luvkante
@luvkante 24 күн бұрын
Was hast Du geraucht, Mann?
@coolcaster
@coolcaster 24 күн бұрын
Wahrheits serum
@19DevilDawg86
@19DevilDawg86 Ай бұрын
Maybe a dumb question, but can this same cast be accomplished with a single handed fly rod?
@stiofain4693
@stiofain4693 Ай бұрын
Bonkers Spey an bonkers Michael, lol How is Dietrich nowadays his Chanel has gone very quiet? Hope he’s ok
@halfsenders
@halfsenders Ай бұрын
w song choise
@SurfSkagit
@SurfSkagit Ай бұрын
Love the mask approach 😎👏 I’m going for it …!!! How- by holding constant fly line tension under rod tip to 100 control over the end of the fly line from a slow start, to a fast stop in both back and forward casting strokes Where- inside the different readings of the tempo casting forms, my believe to a good casting foundation it’s to coordinate or balance the effort with the tempo. When- the best feeling it’s when I’m at the slowest part of the cast because I have full control of the effort, force or power. Why- because effort/ force or power can only be control from the slowest tempo to properly speed up the learning curve. I use to do the opposite at the beginning. Love your work 🫡 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ no many people it’s ready to change because we might have to admit we were sharing the fundamentals wrongly. Guys, simply be humble and not to judge your selfs too hard and just answer the questions frankly just do your best and share 🤛🏻
@Cigarhiker
@Cigarhiker Ай бұрын
9 episodes and you still haven't showed us a damned thing!
@turninflat
@turninflat Ай бұрын
I have long admired Taleb, the promoter of antifragile... i see that we have a common interest... the antifragile mindset is one of recognizing intimidation in the world, but not being intimidated and dealing with it in a basic, simplistic approach... without the Huss and fuss of those who worry more about their egos...
@turninflat
@turninflat Ай бұрын
I had an oppotunity to chat with Nassim at a dining place in Atlanta a couple of weeks back. He is one amazing human.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
So are you. Thanks bro.
@haskiwilli
@haskiwilli Ай бұрын
Hi Michael. I am Dan’s wife and you could not be more wrong about him. He created his KZfaq channel back in 2020 when life seemed to spin out of control and he wanted to send out some positive vibes into a chaotic world. His goal has never been to portray himself as any kind of expert. The term “casting god” actually made me snort-laugh. He is self taught and his tips about casting are simply things that have worked for him. The phrase “I challenge you to a cast off” is an inside joke between Dan and myself based on a Macklemore song, but I digress. My point is this…Dan is a regular guy with a regular job that is simply trying to inspire more folks to get into fly fishing. Trying to take the “you need to do this” out of it. Dan is also a man who is open to learning new techniques and improving himself and his instruction. The reason he isn’t interacting with you is certainly not out of fear of being outcast or being wrong. It is because of your approach. Lead with love and positivity then see what happens. ❤
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
I really appreciate your input. Are u aware of the fact that I had a private conversation with dan where I apologised three times and asked him also three times to help the community? Which he ignored. Because I have knowledge that will help people to learn this immensely. I have what dan wants. But it comes at a price. Have u ever seen or met any flycasting instructor who admits that he is wrong? I have research that proves the whole games teachings wrong and I really appreciate your help in this showing me the way to do it. Is love not hate. I didn't call dan out, he did. I will help the community with or without Dan's help. I actually thought we would be a brilliant promoter. If you were in my position: you have incredible important, helpful and meaningful knowledge that u need to spread, what would you do? I ask you kindly with all the respect and love I have for the sport and from the water to watch the next FlyQ episode, coming out tonight. We take it from there. Dan can come to me whenever he can find his determination to truly help the community on a higher level. I teach and learn antifragile fly casting. The current mindset is fragile and I prove that to you in the next episode. And if you have a fly rod I ask you to join the experiment too.
@luvkante
@luvkante Ай бұрын
Was hast Du geraucht, Jungchen?
@turninflat
@turninflat Ай бұрын
Michael, OK, we get it. You think so little of other teachers. Let's focus on your teaching specifics and conclude the denigration of others. This is just my sense of what is now needed.
@mikehawk3090
@mikehawk3090 Ай бұрын
In no way did he belittle other teachers, he’s simply stating that there is more than one way to solve an equation. A very simple concept which expresses itself throughout life, try looking for new ways to cast and you’ll find next to nil. Though his response is drawn out, he’s stating facts alongside his opinion which is how humans have always communicated, haha, simple concept. As to @flyfishdan challenging and then backing down this is the cowardess which plagues the last few generations. Men without honor or integrity aren’t men at all glad he called him out knowing he’d get backlash. Godspeed.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
Thank you brother. You ll not hear a word from Danny boy. Fire me a dm on insta flycastingdonegal if you fancy a heads up on the next episode and want to participate in a wee experiment, sir. I greatly value your courage and support. Kudos
@chriscook5613
@chriscook5613 Ай бұрын
AMFTA standard of line sizes and weights aren't even adhered to by rod/line makers. I find what you do somewhat interesting.
@theskankster
@theskankster Ай бұрын
i'd think 2 out 10 won't quit and one of them will stay a bad caster his whole life but doesn't quit because he has great waters available and catches enough fish to still love the sport even with bad casting
@smau990
@smau990 Ай бұрын
Hard stop causes rod to bend and then recoil that slaps the wave in the line. Here is one alleged poser casting whole 33m line out and there's no stop kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7eeddCgmdXOgJs.html
@smau990
@smau990 Ай бұрын
Well I started from E1 after your reply. Can you show/explain what exactly is this loop that is a bad thing or do you explain it somewhere and I've missed it? Overhead casting is bad and everyone should use cool cast and wave spey? Is scandi spey or underhand cast ok? Of course I'll be trying the cool cast tomorrow, wave spey I've been using for few years, saw some video where Klaus Frimor does it. Or is it the fact that when you lift the line for most spey casts you sort of have to get the timing right to make it work. If that, then OPST and their continuous tension skagit cast is already there and Byske cast has been around forever, just reset it as many times you need and cast it out.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
Do you have a link to that byske cast? I never heard that. Thanks. Please Keep watching the FlyQ and thanks for your open mindedness. TL
@smau990
@smau990 Ай бұрын
So you took Joel Turners Mind/Shot IQ lesson and decided to rip off his whole philosophy without understanding even half of it? Fly casting is not a process you can control closed loop entirely. Also I have never heard anyone teach to just swing rod and look at the loop OR that tight loop is only thing that matters. Anyways, you gather feedback while you make a stroke, but you should aim for closed loop setup for open loop stroke, because if you try to do closed loop during the casting stroke, you will screw up the timing, because closed loop process is one where you decide the speed of it. In fly casting in order to keep the rod bent and line in the air, you are not deciding the speed = you're not able to make decision based on feedback in the moment. Semantics maybe but "closed loop is always better than open loop" must be dumbest thing i've heard for a while. Closed loop precursor to open loop process is what flycasting should be.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
I transfer knowledge from science into casting because its full of BS. I can closed loop feedback Mt casts most of the time. That's why my casting is much cleaner. You and the rest of flyfishing is looking in the wrong direction. There is real-time feedback to be had in every cast. And one of the reasons why I don't teach you how to yet is that there is no reciprocal exchange coming from people like you. I make the decisions. I can feed me back closed loop during casting. What can u offer me to share the knowledge? To cure the casting panic? Have u seen the other FlyQ episodes? I m not willing to part with my knowledge for free and for some fuckibg fly fish cans who only will claim it was their idea. But , my compliment, you are not too far off with what you are looking at.
@Duke-fly
@Duke-fly Ай бұрын
At minute 19:23 I completely agree with what you say. After someone starts giving me strong casting recommendations, I feel pressured and my casting gets even worse. Thank you for the video. I just wanted to say that you raise an interesting topic, but so far I don’t see any concrete solutions. I understand that too. I would like someone to listen to your thoughts among matser-instructors. Maybe this requires a different supply of material, in a less aggressive form? I would also like to see how you make long casts with your technique. In any case, thanks for the video.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
I am already past that stage. Those so called master instructors are the reason why you find me aggressive. Because they bully me and with a few exceptions, I have the impression that master casting I structure are brain washed uneducated fools. And they can go duck themselves. I lost all my respect and I smoke anyone of the with 2 casts 1 cool cast 2 wave spe And I have a whole gotta more casts in my quiver. Only the other day fly fish dan tried to call me out for a cast off.....after u asked him if wants to include cool casting, the wave spey. The cubicspey and the half spey he must have looked at my casting and then pulled out of the cast off immediately. That's how brave the so called and self proclaimed casting instructors are. Againt my knowledge any master casting instructor appears like a toy. Also would they have to admit that they are wrong Have u ever heard a casting instructor admitting that they are wrong? I heard only myself saying that to me in a form of negative self talk. Because the teachings and industry have negative influence on your mindset and hinder growth as a caster. Say hello to any sliming arrogantsworth master casting instructor and greet them with a double duck you from me.
@SurfSkagit
@SurfSkagit Ай бұрын
Rod tip is the best visual gage to detect on how far the caster Master the acceleration to a stop on the actual fly rod, and I watch every single clip, he is able to do that, at 12:42 and 13:30 is the few times I can see the rod tip in the actual clip, the rod tip shows no vibration no recoil, absolutely nothing that tells me he stop the rod in the “traditional”abrupt stop form, to me it looks the caster here is able to absorb and some how -tame - through the tempo any of the negative potential rod blank vibrations or frequencies that most of the fly casters in this platform show the - open loop - concept I understand the toaster analogy and I’m also think the industry can do better by dedicating more time to the casting, there is no much sharing and teaching from them on the fundamentals but definitely I can tell they more interesting in putting more lines that cast better every season 🤑
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
This industry has absolutely no interest in making people better casters. And also no interest in truly helping them how to become better quick. Because a good caster needs less gear. He can't be scammed into buying new gear constantly.
@teddycosco3677
@teddycosco3677 Ай бұрын
Unreal. What is this cast called?
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
It's called the cool cast or bonkerspey
@rangerwhite5165
@rangerwhite5165 Ай бұрын
I enjoy the entertainment value of your videos Michael, butt his tells you nothing about loop control, what your casting instruction is based on and what is the "stuff you can't see". Fly casting is all based around physics, so I'd be glad you hear your counter arguments.
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
Writing butt with double tt is telling enough ..... I enjoy your comments for their entertainment value too. Like and subscribe. Speynergy.com
@Nelsoncandas
@Nelsoncandas Ай бұрын
Hi! I waited for the next video as you recommended. There is still no explanation on how to use close loop control theory applied to improving or learning casting. You also, randomly talk about statistics, science and control theory, with no solid arguments, facts or proof. There is no control theory without a physical understanding of the variables involved in the process, but you are not interested in that, as stated in the video description. Control theory is not an esoteric discipline, is actually very linked to maths and physics. I understand some people might get caught up in the idea of always making a tight loop even if in many situations is not absolutely necessary for presenting a fly correctly, and that can hinder their joi in fishing, and increase their frustration. I also recommend you checking the video in slow motion in the point you talk about roll casting. It is very obvious, you stop the rod in every cast. I believe your approach needs some development and processing to be taught to people. I am not implying that is bad, and if it works for you then it is great. Nice casting in other videos you have uploaded by the way. I will try some of them. Cheers!!
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
Are you aware that flycasting is 3 dimensional? And that nobody has ever done the maths on a cast? And that it's not relevant for a normal angler? Control theory is about controlling systems. Let me ask you a question: How do you feedback yourself during the cast? Can u tell me that? If yes. Shoot. If not: means you have only open loop control over your casting as you are not getting feedback during the process. If you do get feedback: what is ir? I know the answer to the question. But here is not the place to tell you that. But u can book a casting class anytime through speynergy or buy one of our rods to make it easier for you. Thanks for your understanding
@Nelsoncandas
@Nelsoncandas Ай бұрын
@@coolcaster 3 dimensional (even 4 and 5 dimensional...) calculus has been developed hundreds of years ago. As I mentioned in the comment on the other video, there is scientific literature about it. Saying that control theory is about controlling says as much as fly casting is about casting flies. My feedback is my eyes and feel on the rod, according to that I correct my casting if something is odd. Granted that those corrections more often than not are applied on the next cast. I totally understand that ones work doesn't need to be offered for free, but I believe it should be stated that this is some kind of introduction or advertisement for your classes. Then you win, avoiding people telling you all the time that there is no practical explanation, and we win not waiting for that magic bit of information. I have checked the rods, they look great. I like to build my own rods so I might take a look at one of the blanks in the future. Cheers!!
@rangerwhite5165
@rangerwhite5165 Ай бұрын
Putting the line on the rod is completely unnecessary. It's down to physics, tighter loops are more efficient at penetrating the air at speed.
@Nelsoncandas
@Nelsoncandas Ай бұрын
Hi, just wanted to clarify one thing from the physics point of view. There are several kinds of energy and transfer mechanisms. Fly casting deals mostly with mechanical energy (kinetic + potential energy). The main transfer mechanism of mechanical energy is work (in a physical meaning as force over a distance), but waves are not related to all energy transfer, in this case the rod as a moving object transfers the energy to the fly line through work. Loops in a fly line are just the result, as a shape, of material properties and geometry of a fly line and the mechanical energy acting in it. I assume you are educated, for the way you talk, there are interesting papers made by physicists and engineers in google scholar just typing fly casting, they have studied the mechanics of fly casting and fly line behaviour, just from a scientific point of view. Cheers!
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
The question is how we control it. Nobody cares about the physics. Just clarifying. I m talking about the mindset and the loop in flycasting is a conceptional mistake in itself. Have u heard of the science of control theory? Much more valuable to the caster, check out the upcoming FlyQ S1E8 . Open loop vs closed loop control. I win. U can win too.
@rte66pawnshop
@rte66pawnshop Ай бұрын
Fixed line fishing at it's best! Ouch, man. I'd help you out.
@BarneyRipplechip
@BarneyRipplechip Ай бұрын
I've tried this Michael.........not as easy as it looks. Can you break down your technique? Lol
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
A good stumbler doesn't fall. Is what me granny used to say. This technique is too secret to share. And also while dangerous. ..don't even try that sheit, ripplechippler. Take care
@BarneyRipplechip
@BarneyRipplechip Ай бұрын
Michael you're killing me! My wife thought I'd lost my mind seeing me bent over laughing hysterically. Ok I won't ask any more questions, I promise. I don't want to get Epsteined!
@methos1351
@methos1351 Ай бұрын
Отличные навыки.👍
@tommythompson9090
@tommythompson9090 Ай бұрын
How does your degree in environmental sciences apply to casting? Correct, it doesn't and there are many well-educated people who cast and teach it. So, it's not a matter of being educated at all, as you falsely state in encompassing fashion. You could have simply chosen to challenge orthodoxy by demonstration, but instead opted to be a pious, insulting ass. And chose to target a man who honorably served his country and had a disproportionate influence in growing this pursuit of fly-fishing, as ambassador. It's baffling that a man of your age hasn't acquired a hint of social graces in what is a rather congenial community. To the degree you've been treated poorly, you probably asked for it.
@PaulConnor100
@PaulConnor100 Ай бұрын
So I'm not the only one who's likes to make comedy at the river.
@stiofain4693
@stiofain4693 Ай бұрын
Easy done, hope alls ok
@MichailKutsurov
@MichailKutsurov Ай бұрын
Cool man! Please keep making videos!
@SurfSkagit
@SurfSkagit Ай бұрын
🫡 Changing is hard because you have to admit you were feeding students with the wrong approach to fly casting
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
I agree, but ut s also easy. Just change and get on with it and enjoy the sport even more and grow much faster
@heavenknowsimmiserablenow14
@heavenknowsimmiserablenow14 Ай бұрын
How would you get under the tree branches if they were lower?
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
I would bring a saw and cut them from the other side first. Lol
@heavenknowsimmiserablenow14
@heavenknowsimmiserablenow14 Ай бұрын
I would think twisting the rod before shooting the line would decrease the amplitude and increase the frequency. Should be able to cast heavier fly, without switching to a skagit.
@rangerwhite5165
@rangerwhite5165 25 күн бұрын
I was happy in the haze of a skagit cast, but heaven knows I'm a Spey man now..😂😂
@jonathansmith3434
@jonathansmith3434 Ай бұрын
Could you look at as adding Tension and releasing tension ?
@coolcaster
@coolcaster Ай бұрын
Absolutely yes. As in letting go.
@jonathansmith3434
@jonathansmith3434 Ай бұрын
@@coolcaster there is always tension in a good cast
@turninflat
@turninflat Ай бұрын
Michael, I agree with you that there is too much focus on certain mechanical "preferences",which i see more as style than substance. I do firmly disagree with any discounting of the finest work of Paul Arden who i see as the finest teacher in the world. I put you in the category of advancing the sport just as those basketball players did for their sport when they stopped paying attention to coaches teaching the set shot, and the one hand jumper, and began to play the game with a rhythm and feel that advanced the sport to fantastic skills. In some cases we are beginning to see that in fly casting with some of the youtube videos today... but once again, please do the teaching, and show us, and stop with the critics of those dead and alive. Let's see the specifics of what you have to offer to advance the sport. OK, you drapped the flyline over the rod to keep some flyline feet off the water to facitlitate a waterborne cast... fine, but that's not a spectacular advance.. What have you got? We don't need gobbledy gook about control science... give a lesson... I like some of your thoughts,but no need to denigrate others...