perfect time to hear this I have an AC service check in 13days. Thx for posting this
@YTsux24-7Күн бұрын
Does MQ work with the Appion PTC 900 kit?
@measureQuick22 сағат бұрын
@@YTsux24-7 No, Appion does not play well with others. If you like the displays, look at JB Climate Class. Those do work with mQ.
@pedrocervantes7561Күн бұрын
This are the videos that make want to go back to measure quick. A long time has been since I see a video like this thanks.
@lynncomstock1255Күн бұрын
The anemometer measures air velocity that needs to be averaged over the area of the leak. You went directly to CFM. Did I miss something? The temperature of any air bypassing the evaporator also matters on a real job.
@mrcrux213Күн бұрын
Good point, but he was just giving us an example of not just looking at SC and SH to determine if the system is good. However, when he used the anomometer, it was just to give us the idea of what he meant. 😅
@measureQuickКүн бұрын
@@lynncomstock1255You are correct I entered the open area of 80”^2 and K-factor of 1 beforehand. It was also just a quick estimate to understand the size of the problem.
@TedCookHVACКүн бұрын
Well put !!
@gordonborsboom7460Күн бұрын
Use your eyes Use your ears. Fix issues that are apparent before the gauges come out. It's not a waste of time
@measureQuickКүн бұрын
@@gordonborsboom7460 it’s not always easy to see the obvious.
@brianmcdermott2430Күн бұрын
Good points, great info. Thank you, Jim.
@hvacshinobi8047Күн бұрын
Curious what MQ estimated airflow was? Also have you made any content wi MQ and the testo 429 flowhood?
@measureQuickКүн бұрын
@@hvacshinobi8047 the estimated airflow was outside of what we allow the software to calculate. That said it would have over estimated it had it calculated.
@jrsmyth9761Күн бұрын
@@measureQuick Okay, so how would you know to go looking for the mystery air leakage or maybe the better question is how did MQ make that presumption? If you did not have MQ, what is the way to come up with possibilities like that?
@measureQuickКүн бұрын
@@jrsmyth9761 temp split, approach, leaving air conditions, bypass factor etc. The software is looking at both sides. We have expectations on how the airside should perform when the refrigerant side meets expectations as it did in this example. Could’ve gone into much more detail, but I was trying to keep the video short.
@discoveryman59Күн бұрын
Sometime you have to just accept real world conditions.
@measureQuickКүн бұрын
And sometimes you simply need to improve them.
@discoveryman5922 сағат бұрын
@@measureQuick You can't improve anything unless the customer give you the OK, if you have a massive air leak and the customer tells you that can't afford to fix it than your gauges are the only thing you can base your repair on. You do the best for the customer with what you have to work with.
@measureQuick19 сағат бұрын
@@discoveryman59 you can always make a temporary repair in that case. That’s a good use for duct tape until in can be properly addressed. That said, it’s not the customer declining the repair that is typically the problem. It’s typically a mechanic , not finding it altogether and not offering the repair to begin with.
@discoveryman5918 сағат бұрын
@@measureQuick You can't make the repair if the return or supply in a finished area and the homeowner doesn't when you to rip out walls or ceilings. the REAL WORLD is different than the classroom.
@horsth9566Күн бұрын
Jim, I appreciate your knowledge, and your dedication to the HVAC industry. Truly, you are a great asset. Thank you! ❤
@coldfinger459sub0Күн бұрын
Thank you thank you for making this video. I’ve been trying to push and stress this message that if your airflow is off and your readings look perfect. It’s all really wrong.. But I’m just one little tadpole in a mud puddle
@measureQuickКүн бұрын
A lot of the troubles shooting chart show low airflow with correct charge, the do not show what happens when you have a combination of low airflow, low charge and in this case and higher return air temperature that made the head pressure look very normal. But all that said, this is typical new install conditions. Glad you like it.
@coldfinger459sub0Күн бұрын
@@measureQuick or after somebody performed a repair. Like one they replaced the evaporator with a different manufactures evaporator that is a little bit smaller and bypasses air handler . When somebody changes a condenser motor with a different motor and shaft length position in places the fan in a different position, so it no longer flows the same amount of air over the condenser coil as the original .
@RATCHETMAN1001Күн бұрын
if u have not did one maybe do a system that was working with oil in system ,then let that system open and show how much longer it would take to get a vacuum
@Jayvarga1Күн бұрын
Excellent
@MikecianfroccoКүн бұрын
Thanks Jim
@malachyramirez76772 күн бұрын
Boomer techs are mad that they haven't have this technology like Gen Z techs do.
@brianmcdermott24305 күн бұрын
Great discussion and info. Thank you, Jim and Ty. We need more like this.
@jasontrammell79826 күн бұрын
Airflow has been and probably always will be the most misunderstood thing in hvac since hvac began. If residential hvac took a more commercial approach to design then it would be better but chuck in a truck will always keep that from happening at any scale.
@coldfinger459sub06 күн бұрын
Lov😊e this. But even when I test and measure with equipment with a dialogue, recording showing some of the old geezers who need a trip to the glue factory, they still deny and believe their way is right . It’s like they’re on a Jadi crusade I’m passing on bad information to the next generation and they stand behind it. 🤦♂️ Our Gene 🧬 pool needs cleansing 🧼
@SolluxDivide7 күн бұрын
I just happened to scroll past this and happened to see you here Ty! I loved learning from you and still remember sh and sc , and remember how passionate you are.
@jrsmyth97617 күн бұрын
Not one of those comments were wrong. If your digital devices fail to work - dead battery, app won't load, tool won't work, you need to know how to do the calculation for sh/sc, but also understand what the numbers are telling you.
@horsth95667 күн бұрын
Again, another great presentation. Thank you!
@jacobcarter63327 күн бұрын
Boomers like this are the worst
@TerryRGraham8 күн бұрын
Measure quick seems to block screenshots. Why?
@measureQuick7 күн бұрын
Data integrity issues. A screenshot does not have all the system data and as well can be re-screenshot and reuse data as the meta data gets replaced.
@TerryRGraham7 күн бұрын
@@measureQuick I was just trying to screen shot the diagnostic page where it tells you things to check. I don't see why that cant be saved with a screen shot. It's sometimes easier to screenshot that and have it open on the phone so it doesn't go away.
@Jon-hx7pe8 күн бұрын
need to learn how to do calculations manually before using computers/phones. otherwise it is like teaching kids to just use a calculator instead of how to do arithmetic by hand first. continue on this path and we'll be living in idiocracy soon enough.
@measureQuick7 күн бұрын
Then let’s teach them all the calculations. Superheat and subcooling are only a subset. We need to also be able to calculate what the gauge pressure should be before we hook up the gauges, what the temperature split should be before we measure it, what the target superheat should be before we compare it to the actual, etc. We should even do the same with capacity. 90% of the industry can’t do the calculations above. Why are we so concerned with two when the rest or what tell the story of how the systems actually operating.
@Jon-hx7pe7 күн бұрын
@@measureQuick should know how to do all calculations by hand first of course. some shortcuts are okay, like there are charts that say what the supply temperature should be given return wet and drybulb. No need to check airflow and capacity on every system - if you have low airflow it will show up as low suction pressure and well as lower than normal supply temperature.
@Jon-hx7pe7 күн бұрын
@@measureQuick just to add, i think the problem is this industry has a lot of trouble attracting the more intelligent academic types - it is attracting the worst who can physically learn how to do something and repeat it but aren't intelligent enough to understand theory well and don't have a drive to do any independent learning. That's can't be fixed by technology!
@lynncomstock12559 күн бұрын
20:15 "make sure you have good airflow-" Since this is a test setup, you made no mention about restrictive ductwork. In a field test, static pressure probes could supply information about the system external static pressure. This should have been mentioned and explained. Otherwise, it was a great presentation.
@measureQuick9 күн бұрын
We made an updated version that addresses that. Thanks for the feedback! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNehe65krZ3GqJs.htmlsi=uYR0MFJNTrSQVET_
@trevmint56159 күн бұрын
How many microns will it pull down to?
@w0lvez110 күн бұрын
Why the hell does the #1 reason why the compressor fails don't have a diagnosis? Low oil, contaminated refrigerant.
@HVACRILLA11 күн бұрын
The fundamentals are the best place to improve. It is so easy to gloss over something basic as rudimentary without fully mastering the concept or connecting it into a larger working model. Every athlete operating at a high level trains and doubles down on fundamentals because that’s where the 1% improvements come from day after day.
@harrycastro59212 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot to you!!!
@Seedavis39712 күн бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@devnull755012 күн бұрын
I’m not an HVAC technician. I just repair and maintain my own HVAC equipment. There’s nothing wrong with using automated tools, especially when they produce better results. I’ve never even used an analog manifold gauge set. My Testo Smart Probes are more accurate and not subject to the arithmetic errors people tend to make. I’m also lazy and would prefer not to have to continuously monitor two pairs of measurements and do subtraction in my head. However, I do own a set of analog manifold gauges and thermocouples in case something ever happens to my Smart Probes. My issue with this as an industry outsider is I don’t think someone who is incapable of calculating superheat and subcooling has a good enough grasp of HVAC fundamentals to be out in the field working on jobs alone. Someone who can enter numbers into TurboTax and produce a correct tax return but doesn’t understand accounting principles isn’t an accountant and shouldn't represent themselves as an accountant. Someone who can use measurement equipment but doesn’t understand what the measurements mean isn’t an HVAC technician. It's a bit ironic that an industry notorious for insisting DIYers are too incompetent to go anywhere near HVAC equipment apparently has technicians working within it who would be lost without a cell phone app to do the thinking for them. I’d be pretty irritated if I called for an HVAC technician, and the contractor charged me $100+ per hour for someone so incompetent they have to call tech support to figure out their probes are swapped. But don’t get me wrong. If a cell phone app can be made foolproof enough that someone who doesn’t understand HVAC fundamentals can use it to diagnose problems as well as a competent technician, I’m all for it. As a consumer, I like the idea of paying mechanic prices for technician results. For the individual doing the work, it’s a bit sad they are deprived of the joy of understanding, but that’s not my problem. Great video, by the way. I enjoy listening to these kinds of discussions between people well practiced in their field. I've learned a lot from both of you.
@DennisBuckley-yd6cl12 күн бұрын
Don't be afraid of that something is going to change in this business. It is.Very good information and a lot of knowledge.
@TheRealoldcar12 күн бұрын
The HVAC Profession has advanced 1000 fold with MQ which continues to get better and better. My techs are much more productive with MQ. The best feature we all like is the NON invasive mode. It has been a game changer reducing refrigerant loss when connecting gauges during PMs. The use of probes instead of hose to gauge also greatly reduce loss. The EPA should recognize MQ in this regards. Reduce weight of tools on RTUs is another note worthy benefit. We just need a tablet that is direct sun readable for us old folks
@garypoplin459913 күн бұрын
13:47 - What are the steps from starting MQ to get to this screen? I’ve gone different routes with the same response. The “gauges” displayed on _my_ screen shows TXV/Superheat on the left and CFM/Air Flow on the right. How can I get the PSIG suction and liquid to show from my connected Fieldpiece probes? I’ve tried Quick charge, start a new project, make a saved project active, as well as other things after opening the MQ app but with the same result. What is the required information that needs to be entered before I can see the pressures from the connected probes displayed. Am I missing a requirement? I have the following probes mapped: liquid pressure, suction pressure, liquid line temperature, suction line temperature, discharge line temperature, outdoor air temperature, return air temperature, supply air temperature, return static, and supply static as well as the iDVM550. The all the probe’s readings are accurately displayed in other parts of the app. For me to see the current pressures, I have to open the toolbox and go to the connected Fieldpiece probes list.
@deltaf22215 күн бұрын
Fabulous information for the HVAC install & service side- Follow these tips and tricks!
@HVACRDUDE15 күн бұрын
Or maybe just teach them what it all means first...wow....we're all FCKD
@AKK10515 күн бұрын
A very informative and detailed video. Thanks a lot. Can you recommend me a textbook for chiller T&C?
@jasontrammell798216 күн бұрын
I’d rather not have guys out servicing my clients that can’t perform simple addition and subtraction calculations.
@measureQuick15 күн бұрын
Superheat and subcooling are simple, agreed. But can your techs tell you what the pressures should be before they hook up the gauges? If so do you think they are taking the time to do so? Can they tell you the normalized capacity or airflow? Are they calculating the target temperature split across the evaporator or the target superheat on a fixed orifice system? Are they able to get the measurements fast enough to compensate for the changes in load? Where does it start and where does it end? You can deploy nine probes and by the time the system is stable have an accurate diagnostic and realtime capacity. Technology makes things exponentially easier, faster and far more accurate.
@HVACRDUDE15 күн бұрын
Thank you! Agreed
@HVACRDUDE15 күн бұрын
@measureQuick who tf cares. Dude. We never needed any of this and still don't. Total trash...yeah let me busy on my phone every call and look at BS thay no1 cates about
@jasontrammell798215 күн бұрын
@@measureQuick I use MQ and have been a proponent of it since before imanifold but I still don’t want “field techs” that can’t add and subtract. I’m anti any more dumbing down of the trade, folks need to learn the why and how before they just hook up probes and get the information they don’t understand nor can they intelligently explain it to the client.
@YTsux24-7Күн бұрын
@HVACRDUDE Resistance is futile. Show some respect, and don't be a Richard.
@bryanswanson500717 күн бұрын
But you didnt zero out the manometer probes. I find those usually need to be turned on and zeroed out to atmosphere before installing on system.
@PipeDoctor18 күн бұрын
nice training facility. never got into MQ. good video. thanks
@harryschrysan318318 күн бұрын
It's mike FUCKING pipes!!!
@SombraLocs15 күн бұрын
How is business going in Florida?
@PipeDoctor18 күн бұрын
#LoveBosch
@dustincole262518 күн бұрын
Looking good Jim
@OnePointLander18 күн бұрын
@2:49 This doesn't make any sense. If the 1/4 port on the vacuum pump is a restriction and shouldn't be used, why would the 1/4 ports on the condenser service valves be any different?
@measureQuick18 күн бұрын
Depends on the port design and length. Some flow more than others. A typical condenser port can flow up to 14 CFM at atmospheric pressure. The port of a FP pump flows about 6 CFM at atmospheric pressure. Some are 1/8” id and some 3/16” that small change in diameter makes a large flow change.
@OnePointLander18 күн бұрын
@@measureQuick Okay that makes sense. The fieldpiece must have a smaller bore because the JB Platinum has a very large opening on the 1/4 port and is completely open to the stem that is connected to all the other ports(3/8,1/2).
@OnePointLander18 күн бұрын
Just measured the JB at 3/16 bore on the 1/4 port.