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@terrytzaneros8007
@terrytzaneros8007 9 күн бұрын
☦️ Rahil speaks like a great French master or Russian staretz. His Christianity is of the deepest and richest that made Christendom ✝️
@SeekingAlfalfa
@SeekingAlfalfa 11 күн бұрын
I agree the gospel could be called upside down history (sorry if I butchered the terminology). But I would go a step further and say the gospel is inverse history. I'll try to explain because I haven't heard anyone say it as I see (or read) it. The Bible has two main divisions, the Old Testament and the New Testament. To understand the good news or n.t. one must understand the focus of the o.t.. I would push back on what you stated about the o.t.. The focus of the o.t. is not about the nation of Israel in my reading of it. Jesus didn't die just for the nation of Israel, he died for all mankind, therefore the focus o.t. has to be about mankind, not just the nation of Israel. In the beginning God didn't create Israel, he created Adam (man). So, in the beginning of the o.t. we learn that God created Adam (man). We read in scripture (as Paul stated) that Adam (man) was created in the image and likeness of God. We also read God gave Adam a command. We know God clearly allowed Adam (man) to choose to be obedient or transgress his command. What God didn't give Adam (man) a choice in was the consequences of his disobedience (death). The moment Adam (man) transgressed God's law, Adam (man) freely sinned of course, but this meant he was no longer in God's image and likeness. Adam (man), the created being was now dead, permanently separated from God (life), not simply a sinner. The o.t. is about self willed Adam (man), created in God's image who brought death upon himself. The second half of the Bible is the New Testament. It's interesting to read how Adam (man) was created in God's image, but in the n.t. we read that God came to earth in the image of fallen, ruined man (Adam), or what I would describe as the inverse of Adam (man) in his original creation.. If the o.t. is about Adam's (man's) will to over rule God, the gospel of the n.t. clearly has to be its inverse of that, or God's sovereign will to restore his original creation. I grew up Catholic and have left that church long ago. What I stated is clearly not the Catholic position. I'm only saying this because I've been studying the Bible since around 1980, trying to boil the gospel message down, and this is what I believe it boils down to. Mans will is the story of the Old Testament, and God's will is the story of the New Testament.
@drcdeane
@drcdeane 10 күн бұрын
Hey @SeekingAlfalfa, thanks for your thoughtful comment. I appreciate your analogy of the OT and NT as inverse histories. The OT shows humanity's will in opposition to God, leading to brokenness and separation. The NT, on the other hand, demonstrates God's sovereign will to restore and redeem His creation through Jesus. Regarding the OT in general, I agree it begins with humanity as a whole, and even though the narrative narrows to Israel, the purpose was always to use Israel to bring about a universal plan. This is why I qualified in the clip that “the OT chronicles in large part the story of the nation Israel…” (large part - from Gen 12 on -- not all). But to clarify, in choosing Israel, I don’t think God was showing a lack of love or concern for the other nations, or special affection towards Israel for any intrinsic reason. Deut. 7:6-8 seems to make it known that God’s choice in Israel was based on the promises He made to the patriarchs, promises which included blessing to all the nations (Gen. 12:1-3). So now the question comes, how is God to fulfil those promises, which ultimately trace back to the protoevangelium of Gen. 3:15? By the time we get to the NT, with Jesus - a Jew from the tribe of Judah - we get our answer. Israel was the vessel and platform for God’s self-revelation to humanity; Jesus the Jew was the means of blessing to all the nations. To say that a little differently, I think what we have in salvation is universal reach through particular means. The Messiah of Israel offers salvation for the whole world (1 John 2:2).
@SeekingAlfalfa
@SeekingAlfalfa 9 күн бұрын
@@drcdeane Thanks David. You brought up a point I've never heard discussed nor have I discussed with anyone. You stated and I've always heard and believed that "Jesus was a Jew". Just speaking for myself I have a problem making a de facto statement that "Jesus was a Jew". We know from scripture that he was conceived by the Holy Spirit, and that he always referred to God as his father. We also read the lineages in the old and new testament's. Other than Zach. 13:3 which seems to be a general statement, the rest of scripture indicates the father is the one who begets the child. I realize in our culture we use our father and mother to determine "what we are" so to speak. But this is not the language of scripture. I would be curious to know your thoughts on Jesus "Jewishness", and whether I might be missing something in scripture. Speaking for myself only, it seems a stretch to make a statement of fact that "Jesus was a Jew". One other thought, when Jesus was on trial Pilate asked him if he was the king of the Jews. He told Pilate, he was indeed the king of the Jews. (paraphrased). But just a short time later he told Pilate something to the effect that "my kingdom is not of this world" making it clear he wasn't speaking of being a physical Jewish king through a physical Jewish lineage.
@drcdeane
@drcdeane 7 күн бұрын
​@@SeekingAlfalfa Thanks for your reply, I think we're zeroing in on the issue. While the direct statement "Jesus was a Jew" isn't found in the Bible, the Bible does provide substantial evidence that Jesus was Jewish (genealogies in Matt. 1:1-17; Luk. 3:23-38, customs and laws such as Luk. 2:21, 41-42; 4:16-21; John 2:13, titles and identification such as Matt. 1:1; 2:2; John 19:19, and so on). If there is anything that historians agree on-Christian, Jewish, atheist, or otherwise-it is that Jesus was a Jew. This is Jesus' humanity. At the same time, Jesus’ Jewish identification also established His identification as the God of Israel (Yahweh). For example, in Matthew 5:17, Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” This indicates that He saw Himself as fulfilling the Jewish Law, something only the Messiah could do. Furthermore, Jesus made several "I am" statements (John 8:58, “Before Abraham was born, I am!”), which echo God's self-identification in Exodus 3:14 (“I AM WHO I AM”). These statements were understood by His contemporaries as claims to divinity. Additionally, Jesus performed acts that were identifiably divine, such as forgiving sins (Mark 2:5-7), which was seen as something only God could do. His resurrection from the dead (John 20) is the ultimate sign of His divine nature, fulfilling Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah and demonstrating His power over life and death. With Jesus, what we have is a human man identifiably Jewish, while at the same time also saying and doing things identifiably divine. This dual nature is central to Christian belief. Christianity explains this with the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union: Jesus is truly God and truly man. Neither nature overrides the other; both exist in perfect union, making salvation possible. So there is a proper sense in which we can speak of Jesus as a Jew in his humanity, without negating the other proper sense in which we can speak of Jesus in HIs divinity with a kingdom not of this world. Indeed, we know the latter precisely through Jesus' Jewishness: He is the promised Jewish Messiah come to bless all the nations, just as Yahweh of old spoke to Abraham (Gen. 12:1-3).
@SeekingAlfalfa
@SeekingAlfalfa 6 күн бұрын
@@drcdeane Thanks for that. I grew up Roman Catholic and in 1979 bought my first Bible. I started off just reading it. After reading it for a few years to familiarize myself with it I moved on to studying it. The entire Catholic religion is based on the idea that people should just "believe" what the Catholic Church authorities tell them. I guess that's why I try to understand what scripture actually says, and not just believe what religious tradition says it says. So bringing it back to the original topic is the focus of the o.t. on the Jews or on Adam? It seems that the focus of the n.t. is on Jesus the Christ, born of the seed of God, the King of the Jews, that is to say Jews circumcised of the heart, not the forseskin of the body. And isn't the focus of the Old Testament about the physical lineage from Adam who was a type of Christ. Jesus (Christ's) physical seed came through Judah (the man) who came through Adam who was a type of Christ by being the procreator of all physical mankind. Romans 5:14 states "Death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them who had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him who was to come".
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 14 күн бұрын
Amen. Thanks David.
@MichaelMcClenaghan
@MichaelMcClenaghan 16 күн бұрын
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@eagle-z2z
@eagle-z2z 16 күн бұрын
Woe to those who changed the scripture and claimed that it was from God
@stevenhenry2146
@stevenhenry2146 20 күн бұрын
@nathanfrench5198 i suppose I've come to think that what the first couple took was the right/privelege to DEFINE or DETERMINE good and evil. Going back to the judges motif of them doing what is right in their own eyes. And what we see today is very similar to that is there anything in the Hebrew that bears out the idea that Adam and Eve sought to become experts or authorities on a subject that only God knows about because he is the one who created it?
@kathiresandorai7709
@kathiresandorai7709 22 күн бұрын
As a Hindu, I am glad that you have found your peace. But as a comparative religion researcher, I can't help feeling sadden with your lack of knowledge about Hinduism. It looks like you prefer a religion that keeps you subservient to a god and as a result stayed blinded to your righfull divinity. Bible is for those who wants a god to worship whereas Geetha is for those who wants to transcend and realize the devine within. Its ok brother. Maybe the next life time......
@Vazhakattu
@Vazhakattu 22 күн бұрын
Thank you. Developing a rhythm of prayer has been so transformational for me personally. I love that you said ‘it’s for His glory first’- that’s encouraging
@Maya-ig9kx
@Maya-ig9kx Ай бұрын
Was this interview done this year - 2024 ?
@drcdeane
@drcdeane Ай бұрын
Yep, a week prior to upload :)
@proudtobeanamerican
@proudtobeanamerican Ай бұрын
In my years before Islam, was never unhappy for more than a day and did not know anger. Islam taught me the religion of manliness, holding grudges, administering money and blood, revenge, retribution, and vengeance. That just leads to resentment, self pity, malevolence, misery sin and death. Went out west and had a long ponder about it, then went out east and turned it around in my mind to sort this rage inside. Recently, it occurred to me that perhaps this was the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil that I swallowed.
@cryptochris9001
@cryptochris9001 Ай бұрын
All religion is pretty much the same but only one creation story can be true, and that's the Genesis creation account. God bless this man!
@Zatoichi82
@Zatoichi82 Ай бұрын
So, the knowledge of good and bad/evil is divine: 1. discernment between good and bad/evil; 2. the application of the appropriate reward (blessing) and punishment (curse) as a consequence. The reason this is forbidden is because it has to be in line with God's will. By eating of the tree they did this by relying on their own will which is disastrous, hence death. Am I seeing this right?
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the encouraging word, David. There are plenty of ‘appealing’ ideas and philosophies in this world, but none provide the complete answers to life’s biggest questions, except Christianity, and only Jesus can bridge the gap between us and our Creator: “Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6, ESV)
@PeterHill-lq9cy
@PeterHill-lq9cy Ай бұрын
Great work David. Thank you.
@jsanimals148
@jsanimals148 Ай бұрын
Beautifully said
@user-br6px6ok9x
@user-br6px6ok9x 2 ай бұрын
Where is God during suffering? Well we are humans and not made of steel so why should we be thinking we are immune to hurt. God is a made up thing and the sooner people realise it the better. We suffer and die like every other living thing
@Cuvoastoh6321
@Cuvoastoh6321 2 ай бұрын
Its mixing Truth of God with false provided by evil forces, satan or God's enemies. Look at what eve reasoned in the garden, some of it was what God Said and some of that was what the serpent said, she mixed it together, Genesis 3:6. You have to keep God's word accurate and pure.
@DDekkon
@DDekkon 2 ай бұрын
God IS grief.
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 2 ай бұрын
“You cannot domesticate providence”. Excellent quote. Having a sense of how ‘small’ we are in the grand scheme of things, while simultaneously recognising how precious we are (Imago Dei) is a challenging enigma to reconcile. Humble submission to our Creator is a good starting place.
@gtrain3210
@gtrain3210 2 ай бұрын
🔥
@pankajpatel1109
@pankajpatel1109 2 ай бұрын
Sorry mate, you talk alot of rubbish, I'm a Hindu and lived in England for 55 years and I can assure you that the majority of us Hindus do not live the way you did.
@drcdeane
@drcdeane 2 ай бұрын
Hi @pankajpatel1109, thanks for your comment. To clarify: this isn't a video about the majority of Hindus living in England, it's Rahil's personal story.
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 3 ай бұрын
I loved Rahil’s gentle admonishment to Christians about the modern Church’s departure from her contemplative and ‘mystic’ roots. For those who consider themselves practicing Christians and are sometimes confused or even concerned by the liberalisation of modern Christian practice and worship, I highly recommend AW Tozer as a source of clarity, in particular his books “The Pursuit of God” and “The Purpose of Man”.
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 3 ай бұрын
A very touching and thought provoking personal account. Thanks to Rahil for being so generous and vulnerable. May all who listen to his story respectfully and objectively consider the message.
@jaiteim
@jaiteim 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 head phone for meditation. what were you smoking
@drcdeane
@drcdeane 3 ай бұрын
Hey @jaiteim - there is a entire audio based industry dedicated to meditation. This is nothing new or particularly noteworthy.
@jaiteim
@jaiteim 3 ай бұрын
@@drcdeane your point?
@elsoil3387
@elsoil3387 3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to part 2 where he can talk about the theology of things... Is there a part 2 coming?
@drcdeane
@drcdeane 3 ай бұрын
I haven't planned a follow up with Rahil. But I'd be happy to respond to questions you might have related to this. Contact details are available in the description 🙂
@elsoil3387
@elsoil3387 3 ай бұрын
Mr. Patel, you said that "thankfuless isn't a concept in Hinduism". But then earlier you said you prayed with your Hindu family before dinner. What then did you pray for?
@marcushans4317
@marcushans4317 3 ай бұрын
Praise the Lord in Christ Jesus🙏 Hinduism believed in karma, the Altimate portion of an individual. No human will is considered. You have to live your fate.
@jaiteim
@jaiteim 3 ай бұрын
prayin for jesus to show a sign i suppose
@jaiteim
@jaiteim 3 ай бұрын
@@marcushans4317 go read on hinduism please. before posting
@obithomas917
@obithomas917 3 ай бұрын
A beautiful interview Dave. Rahil is truly able to speak from the eastern and western perspective through his faith journey.
@richardplaatjies7680
@richardplaatjies7680 3 ай бұрын
This is so strange, a P. H. D. My LORD never had one nor His disciples , but one. To study the Word at that level when the answers are in the Bible.
@MichaelMcClenaghan
@MichaelMcClenaghan 3 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 3 ай бұрын
CS Lewis adds further clarity to this vital issue: “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: “I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God.” That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic - on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg - or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.” C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
@daviroza4700
@daviroza4700 3 ай бұрын
A. Muslim man
@danielpaterson7
@danielpaterson7 3 ай бұрын
Nope.
@daviroza4700
@daviroza4700 3 ай бұрын
@@danielpaterson7 They want to extinguish Allah’s light with their mouths, but Allah refuses and perfects His light, although the disbelievers dislike it Quran 61:8
@daviroza4700
@daviroza4700 3 ай бұрын
@@danielpaterson7 Matthew 26:39 KJV And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt
@gtrain3210
@gtrain3210 3 ай бұрын
🔥
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 3 ай бұрын
“Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.” Hebrews 1:1-4
@rambido
@rambido 4 ай бұрын
Wow! I strongly disagree with everything you have said here. I could address it all, but it won't change your view. Tell me this: who is the congregation of Philadelphia? Here's who they are not: They are not widely known or regarded by the 'mainstream'. You know...all those on the busy, bustling highway...where everyone who is anyone, IS. Those from your beloved denominations, which make up the tree of variety (dare I say diversity...and...tolerance?) are not Philadelphia. I like to characterize denominations as 'demon-in-nations', both catchy and true. So, who is Phila (little understood and poorly regarded) which Christ LOVES, and who is the congregation of ha satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie. Jews here coded to mean something like 'the true inheritors', 'the legitimate sons', 'the natural branches', etc. Also, do some study on G3439 monogenes. It does NOT mean one and only which you misquoted. It means only begotten. The exact same usage as John 3:16 is at Heb 11:17 regarding Isaac. Isaac was the only begotten of Abraham and Sarah which was the promise (and therefore true) of God. He was not the one and only (which excludes begotten) because of Ishmael. Father God Almighty The Originator has other sons, The Word became Yeshua, is His only begotten One! amen Lastly, purgatory eh? Purgatory purge your sins? Well, that negates the cross of Christ and the shed blood, God forbid! Review deeply these five verses: Romans 6:7 (acquitted), Romans 6:23 (wages=earned payment in full), John 5:22, John 5:27, John 8:15. all glory comes from The Father!
@hannodejager7206
@hannodejager7206 4 ай бұрын
So good! 🔥🔥🔥
@kendallbrewer2141
@kendallbrewer2141 4 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@danielpaterson7
@danielpaterson7 4 ай бұрын
🔥
@MichaelMcClenaghan
@MichaelMcClenaghan 4 ай бұрын
Love this one! 🔥
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 4 ай бұрын
Thanks David. Helpful and encouraging. Echos of the Apostle Paul’s address to the intellectual elite of Athens 2,000 years ago, found in Acts 17: “The God who made the world and everything in it- he is Lord of heaven and earth- does not live in shrines made by hands. Neither is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives everyone life and breath and all things. From one man he has made every nationality to live over the whole earth and has determined their appointed times and the boundaries of where they live. He did this so that they might seek God, and perhaps they might reach out and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. For in him we live and move and have our being,”🙏
@Vazhakattu
@Vazhakattu 5 ай бұрын
This was great. Thank you
@aussierob7177
@aussierob7177 5 ай бұрын
When the Sacred Books were composed all Christians belonged to the Church established by Christ in 33 AD. The Reformation ended up rupturing the Body of Christ and started a totally different type of Christian. which did not accept the original Church of Christ.
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 5 ай бұрын
Thanks David. A verse that has helped me to keep the right focus as an ‘apologist’ for the Christian faith is Matt. 5:16 “In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.” 🙏
@aussierob7177
@aussierob7177 5 ай бұрын
Christ established one Church only ( Body of Christ) on the foundation of the apostles in 33 AD. Except for the Schism of 1054 where the Church split into the Eastern Orthodox Church, and the western Catholic Church, the Catholic Church remained unchanged until the 16th century when the Reformation led by Martin Luther, split the Church again. many new man-made Churches and denominations began to appear after leaving the Catholic Church. The name Christian refers to all those who have been anointed through the gift of the Holy Spirit in Baptism, therefore the followers of Christ and members of the Church established by Christ in 33 AD Christ gave his apostles and their successors the authority to forgive sins. 'Whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven. Whose sins you retain, they are retained" This is Scriptural, but Protestants refuse to believe this. Baptism is necessary for salvation. The Second Coming is Scriptural. The Church is the authority NOT the Bible. Protestants love to say that Catholics added books to the Bible.The Catholic Church did not add books to the Bible. The 7 books in question - Tobit. Judith. Naccabees 1 and 2. Wisdom. Eccleiasticus. and Bauruch - are properly called the Deuterocanonical Books. The label "unscriptural, " was first applied by the Protestants Reformers of the 16 th century. By the time of the Reformation, Christians had been using the same 73 books in their Bibles, and thus considered them "inspired". For more than 1100 years, this practice changed with Martin Luther, who dropped the Deuterocanonical Books on nothing more than his own say-so. Protestantism as a whole has followed his lead in this regard. One of the two "Pillars" of the Protestant Reformation, Sola Scriptura, or the Bible alone, in part states that nothing can be added or taken away from God's Word. History shows therefore that Protestants are guilty of violating their own doctrine. Christ said his Church (Body of Christ) would suffer great trials and persecutions on earth It will have its perfection in heaven. Roman Catholicism is NOT a denomination.Denominations are man-made.
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 5 ай бұрын
Excellent summary of the key historical roots of the Christian faith, done with a good dose of detail and clarity, seasoned with grace (Col. 4:6). Thanks David.
@BrendanEvans-hc2wj
@BrendanEvans-hc2wj 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for such a highly educational video!
@danielverlaan6630
@danielverlaan6630 5 ай бұрын
Excellent content! I appreciate the way you framed the conversation around what it means to be a Christian.
@Yrinedjcapulong54
@Yrinedjcapulong54 5 ай бұрын
Knowledge is good but Knowledge bring us separate to the presence of God its become evil God said Genesis 1:17 ,you will die Separation from God ,why Because of evil spirit their teacher not God Shows the weakness of man ,dust to dust turn to dust
@rogerweir1772
@rogerweir1772 6 ай бұрын
Law of Moses= Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil....
@LightSeekers777
@LightSeekers777 6 ай бұрын
Not according to Scripture. Psalm 1, Psalm 119 and Psalm 19 describe God's Laws as if they are the very WORD we are to believe became flesh. If you are following a LAWLESS ONE, it is not of God. Jesus, according to Scripture, never disobeyed God's beautiful Laws....... The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul; The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; 8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; The commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes; 9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. 10 More to be desired are they than gold, Yea, than much fine gold; Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. 11 Moreover by them Your servant is warned, And in keeping them there is great reward.
@LightSeekers777
@LightSeekers777 6 ай бұрын
The Law of God IS the Law of Moses. He gave it to Moses to speak because the people refused to come. Satan sowed seeds of Disobedience, those are grown into the wrong tree.
@ghazarayyaohaman134
@ghazarayyaohaman134 7 ай бұрын
כבוד ליהוה🔥 שלומ Glory to our Creator perpetually!!! 😊 Ascribe greatness to our Higher power! The rock, perfect is His work because of His ways are justice. He is the faithful Al, and there is no injustice, righteous and upright is He! Thank you @drcdeane for a great interview and choice of the subject and speaker! Thank you @nathanfrench5198 for this amazing topic of dissertation and your involvement in speaking it on KZfaq!😊 I was always puzzled by the events around this tree and I was praying for understanding. And I love how you tie all together! Purpose through the character of our Creator as ALL is tied to Him and His glory! הללו את יהוה אמן
@johnknight3529
@johnknight3529 7 ай бұрын
It seemed to me, nobody special, that reading the story carefully, is the key to understanding what is being spoken of. "And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil." To me, that is saying it was NOT a tree that was pleasant to the sight or good for food. (And implies that God had not made it to grow out of the ground.) And, I suggest that if one simply avoids assuming the actual wording is for some reason unimportant (or poor), and bears in mind that knowledge actually does grow in something, which would be in the midst of the garden, since Adam and Eve were clearly conscious beings within which knowledge was surely growing . . then a very different solution to this puzzle can begin to take shape, so to speak. And it seems to me God has very cleverly hidden the solution in plain sight, as the saying goes. I believe He was warning the people not to assume that whatever comes into their minds is trustworthy. Warning them that their imaginations could be very deceptive, that what came into the mind's eye should not be treated as a good indication of what is dependably true. But, one can't see that solution if one takes the images/ideas that pop into the mind's eye when the story begins as if good indications of what is dependably true. .