I don't really shoot video so I can't comment on a plateau in video features, but as a stills photographer, I don't think anyone can argue that pure image quality for stills photography hit a hard plateau around 2017 with the D850, A7/A7RIII, X-T3. If I did a lot of video or serious sports and wildlife I would absolutely upgrade because the new stacked sensors, advanced AF etc are all very impressive. However, for a shooter like me, who exclusively shoots carefully composed stills... There is literally no benefit to buying a latest flagship body. I went from a Sony A7R III, to an A7R V... And swiftly back to an A7R III(A). I just didn't need the more advanced features and IQ (including DR) was identical... So I spent the money on modern glass, which is where your money will directly translate into big improvements in your IQ. Just lastly... I'm with Chris regarding Lumix M43, they need to focus on small bodies and relaunch the GX line. I had a Lumix GX1 back in 2011 and it was sensational. A cool looking tiny body (half the size of an X100VI) with 24MP, 'enthusiast' video features, interchangeable lenses or maybe a 28mm equivalent fixed lens would sell like hot cakes... And they can do it. For day trips, walking/climbing, street photography, parties, social events etc it would be perfect.
@kdeeclassictv23963 сағат бұрын
year 2024 just bought iphone 13
@theherblisttv4 сағат бұрын
You’re amazing dude!
@iancloudpool37835 сағат бұрын
I miss Aarhus so much
@neontyler66637 сағат бұрын
those who don’t believe are from Crapdroid community… seriously, they are so jealous at the point they won’t believe a Fvcking PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER?
@Dany-nv1fj10 сағат бұрын
I brought this M3 after owning for 11 years a retina display late 2013 and I am feeling that I downgraded. You can't even connect 2 monitors.
@matt-lang11 сағат бұрын
That DR400 vs DR100 setting difference was shocking! That’s a really fascinating difference
@bubiorbi981814 сағат бұрын
ah yes, back again to watch a video about two cameras, both of which I will never be able to own. I still love it. what is wrong with me haha?
@jamesbooker628416 сағат бұрын
Didn’t know I needed this today. Turns out I did.
@arthurgphotography18 сағат бұрын
Om systems has more computational functions in their cameras than our phones, they deserve a lot more hype for that. Despite owning three full frame sony's, I still reach for my om-1 in certain situations.
@yedijafotograferКүн бұрын
Camera manufacture need to approach woman as nowadays, more and more woman enterpreneur is entering the market. They producing their own content and most of their content still comes from an iphone.. why not make professional camera that is "woman friendly".. just put additional trivial stuff like beautify even matter
@stalman2 сағат бұрын
My wife says this all the time, and it’s true
@888bergКүн бұрын
Which national park is that in the US - stunning!
@stalman2 сағат бұрын
It’s Banff National park in Canada
@taylor1038Күн бұрын
Anybody else notice a bit of stutter with the iPhone multicam?
@JLJ2Күн бұрын
Great information. I’m excited about all of this! Also, what brand tabletop mic stands are you using?
@LukeChristopherPhotoКүн бұрын
The other thing that would be nice is to have better wireless. Have you big camera upload to a cloud, or talk with your phone better and faster.
@albionmerrickКүн бұрын
i actually think a huge fumble on the s9 is the cold shoe. street photographers often use flash. it also would have made it a more capable backup camera for professionals.
@stalman2 сағат бұрын
Yup I totally agree, but then they would have also needed a mechanical shutter
@ErisedMediaCoКүн бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of the Apple Vision Pro strapped to your face as a general workflow for creatives or even industry... but it definitely has a place. In terms of creating content for it, I could definitely see using some of the innovations James Cameron had used with Avatar II. Separate the sensor and lens mount from the main body of the camera, throw the camera body on a back-pack style strap system, and have the sensor(s) and lens(es) mounted to your head or torso in some way.... helmet cam maybe? That could make for some AMAZING POV perspective film making. And you could have the systems mounted in other ways too if it made sense for the story. But right away, that seems the most logical approach to me. Sort of what the Vision Pro TRIES to do but with extremely high fidelity.
@wavelandКүн бұрын
Regarding the S9: I finally had a chance to handle one for a few minutes yesterday (June 24) and two negatives jumped out at me right away. One, the control dial feels like it came out of the dollar store parts bin. I’m sure it’s been tested for durability, but it doesn’t feel like it belongs on a $1500 camera. And two, the HDMI and USB-C ports are on the grip side of the camera! I don’t think I’ve heard anyone really talk about this, but if you do want to put the S9 on a little gimbal then start digging for some L adapters to reroute the cables, and if you want to connect this camera to any sort of monitor the cable is always in the way when adjusting settings. Now that’s a really weird design decision.
@timnichols37952 күн бұрын
Camera makers should re-evaluate the 18% gray convention, and create alternate exposure strategies that you can set your camera to. An expose to the right exposure mode would be awesome. The shutter speed dial could be set up so that you set your camera to the minimum acceptable shutter speed, and the camera only deviates from the expose to the right strategy when it needs to do so to keep the minimum acceptable shutter speed.
@GeeQueee2 күн бұрын
Slow down a little, u guys are professionals , first timers trying to follow. Thanks.
@gfrmartins2 күн бұрын
What is the reason (besides pushing Final Cut for Ipad) that all of this could not work with a Macbook, Air, etc? and only in ipad pro?
@stalman2 сағат бұрын
I hope they make it work for Mac asap, that would actually be more useful for me
@schoolpost20092 күн бұрын
The Plateau is also attributable to the widespread adoption of Sony Sensors among all manufactures ( Blackmagic, Panasonic, ZCAM, etc... ) Many of them are competing with exact same sensor, so the differentiation has to be made up in other areas ( Body style, User interface / User Experience, Codec, Lens mount, etc... ) Would be great to see more competition in the CMOS sensor space. Maybe even a resurgence or revival of some older CCD tech?
@stalman2 күн бұрын
That’s actually a good point, now the processors just need to catch up
@liondragothai2 күн бұрын
Thaïland Nice place to visite ❤ amezing ❤
@redcomn2 күн бұрын
A micro 4 third Sony RX will be pretty sweet too
@z352kdaf832423 сағат бұрын
Why would Sony hurt themselves doing that?
@redcomn23 сағат бұрын
@@z352kdaf8324 since it had been a while since the last release of rx series. Tbh zv series ain’t really do it for lot of us rx user
@vidthreenorth40072 күн бұрын
By the end of the clip I looked for the skin tones and I was seeing them orange, but up till that point I just didn't care. I was listening to three guys talking about technical stuff. . . .
@Teslien2 күн бұрын
huh, this guy is a camera caster but hasnt used other editing devices to compare n contrast tools? i bet he uses jpgs and lets the raw files sit due to his inability to see the full rgb spectrum
@stalman2 күн бұрын
What a weird comment
@Teslien2 күн бұрын
@@stalman the dude talks about not using pixel software? you can go to best buy and just try it out. I can't be the only one where i brought my own sd card and had a photoshoot inside best buys? another time he mentions holding a canon mirorless...lol
@Mel-953 күн бұрын
Really nice to see you guys chat in a relaxed format with Tyler hosting. I drifted along with you. Before I knew it, I had watched the whole show. More please.
@imacg53 күн бұрын
around 5:00 there are many freezes, are those hardware (phones) issues or software issues?
@stalman2 күн бұрын
Im still not sure what happened there, trying to figure it out
@iyason68783 күн бұрын
That's not cinematic, colors look like vomit
@dizietz3 күн бұрын
Heya! there were some dropped frames right around kzfaq.info/get/bejne/att5l86e38eZiqM.html -- any idea why this happened?
@jim79533 күн бұрын
iPhone or android phone are ok but prices are too much way too much.
@jim79533 күн бұрын
You should of talk about the license that a lot of photographers bought their software before subscriptions came out and they took that away and did,t even consider to give you the money back. I see no one talking about that. How can adobe sell that license that we bought and just go on your computer then you can’t use it anyone more. That was not legal!
@stalman2 күн бұрын
Did they take away your license or did they stop providing free updates?
@roofedmyball3 күн бұрын
We are no longer paying for image quality . We are now paying for convenience features. Cameras will only get easier to operate in the future, especially with the introduction of AI. Also it will much harder to screw up your image with cameras like the gh7 and the introduction of internal raw For 2200$ you can pretty much have every feature under the sun. Personally I’m excited. Cameras I wanted 3-4 years ago are now on sale. I can see companies just cramming features in their cheaper cameras.
@dhyanverco3 күн бұрын
14bit readout modes for video and 16bit for photo. That's the next small step for image quality. Might be another decade at the rate camera companies are going though.
@stalman2 күн бұрын
It will be nice for sure, but I’m curious if we’ll really notice the difference. 12 to 14 bit raw is already subtle
@dhyanverco2 күн бұрын
@@stalman I've read that bit depth limits dynamic range, so we could finally see improvements in dynamic range. And it makes a difference with the xh2s 14bit readout with video. That's why it has such good dynamic range.
@GrantSR3 күн бұрын
You are concerned about having an echoey studio, and yet you use a marble freaking tabletop? A plain piece of plywood would be better!
@stalman2 күн бұрын
Jordan was using my usual wooden table so we moved the marble kitchen table in
@GrantSR2 күн бұрын
@@stalman Then tell Jordan he doesn't get to make cracks about you having an echo probe studio! 😝
@contumancia3 күн бұрын
top! thanks!
@andrewtate25953 күн бұрын
I just want my cat and the sunset in 4k
@farestabs3 күн бұрын
Beautiful comparison. Represent YYC!
@UrbanAnimeLounge3 күн бұрын
Video camera are nowhere near plateau tbh. The real game is 8K at Pristine quality, with up to 120 frames, no compromises, log and raw at minimum 12 bit. That is where we should be. The A7S3 still beating cams coming out today tells me it was the 1080ti of that time and we just getting piece meal, and cripple hamm es. Now we gonna spend 2-3 years getting pushed 6K as the bees knees.
@danny88883 күн бұрын
X100 VI.... include ND Filter 👍
@iMaxPatten3 күн бұрын
The disparity in quality between iPhone ultrawide and the 1X lens is HUGE
@iMaxPatten3 күн бұрын
Live Multicam is very, very cool! I can definitely tell this is iPhone footage but it’s not bad.
@derJackistweg3 күн бұрын
25:20 vs. 27:13 pretty much wrong! When you place a product (=12-18 BEFORE launch) you make out aTARGET group. THAT group has a budget. If you do not hit a specific price point a product DOES NOT SELL AT ALL! This is really serious. The price point ist the MOST relevant point - otherwise a product will not sell. And I do not mean x% less, I mean not at all! As a non sales pro you can see this on smartphone sales quite well. Samsung (at least in Europe) does this excellent. The drop down, ver controlled! the price of the last year high end slightly, so that they can sell the new, as well as the last one en mass, so that competition has no chance. YT Photographie is such a bubble. Tony is pretty much the only (en) Person who knows this industry.
@Chaosflo-kc9fh3 күн бұрын
Found it in Germany for 1650.- including the 85/1.8! The price of an iPhone pro max. For a family/travel/every day cam I think it’s perfect. I just want the best picture quality and carry it with me, don’t care about the rest and there are many other cams for those who need „more“
@steveosaur3 күн бұрын
Couldn't help myself noticing the marble table when you mentioned the echo 😂
@williamsolis13 күн бұрын
I think the focus on IQ is getting stale. Video quality and options, customisation, IBIS, readout speed are becoming more important. The ceiling in IQ is basically DR/ISO which hasn't really moved in like a decade.
@VynZography3 күн бұрын
Thanks for recording this video using your iPhones. It's convinced me to not sell my proper cameras just yet.
@tennissir19864 күн бұрын
I disagree about camera “plateau”. Although it may be true that image sensors by themselves may have peaked (excluding faster readouts removing rolling shutter) - the autofocus upgrades means that 90 percent of photographers will get better stills and videos.
@kentmemories4 күн бұрын
I think Chris and Jordan S9's review was their worst reviews ever, mostly complaining and reviewing for something S9 isn't. I blaimed Lumix for picking the wrong reviewers for the product.
@slwstryКүн бұрын
„Picking wrong reviewers” I think you are mistaking marketing and adverts made for company producing stuff from reviews which are made for consumers.