Excellent, awesome and inspiring video. I have a new goal now, Greek and Latin, alongside the vocational study I’m doing, Cybersecurity.

Sorry, but I have a degree in Latin and this is neither the reason to learn Latin nor the way to do it.

There is making a living and there is a classical education. In making a living as a doctor, accountant, engineer, nurse, etc. you need technical training. You will subsequently paid for the marketable skills you have acquired. There is nothing stopping someone from reading the classics. Socrates did not go to college. Spending time in college getting trained for something that has no market value is a very expensive mistake.

Thank you. Pax.

I find reading and writing go hand in hand when it comes to memorization for me.

Say it out loud 3x in a row per day, section by section. That always works for us.

Great podcast as always! You mentioned that your kids memorized all the counties in the world, do you have a suggestion or any tools to help with this? I’d love to try it with my kids as well 😊

You memorize things when you are young, and you come BACK to it when you are older. And then it's not so hard. Train a child up in the way they should go and they will not soon depart from it.

This podcast is a game changer. I don’t think I could use anything else after listening to all these episodes the past few months. You really start to see where other curriculum doesn’t even come close to what you get with MP.

This is why I left a new fun math program for Rod and Staff. What you talk about here makes so much sense.

Thank you for this conversation on memorization. I’m homeschooling my kiddos and so many of the moms in the homeschool world make memorization seem like the devil himself and the destroyer of the joy of education. My oldest is going into 4th grade and I’ve realized how the lack of emphasis on memorization has been really inhibiting him in some areas. He incredibly gifted in math but we had to go back because he didn’t have his math facts memorized and started to struggle. This year memorization will be the cornerstone of our schooling and I’m so excited to see the positive changes that will come from it. I truly think the hatred of memorization is a modern day attack on a true education.

Just wanted to say that I love these podcast episodes, please keep doing them!

Thank you for advocating memorization! “Memorization frees the mind”! I’m a big fan of memorizing things in learning, especially math facts for the young learners. Little anecdotal story: I had to fight my husband over teaching my son memorizing math facts because he thinks memorization “limits” the ability to process logic.

I was teaching my four year old the story of Samuel, and how he needed to be quiet and listen to hear God. She jumped in with "just like the wise old owl! The less he spoke the more he heard!". It really does all tie together and it is beautiful to watch. Once again, a wonderful discussion! Im looking forward to seeing how else MP is going to enrich my child's life 💕

I found a marvelous book that attacks memorization in a new way. The book, "Ranieri Reverse Recall" by Luke Amadeus Ranieri. It makes the process simple in the sense of starting to memorize from the end forward. Each iteration includes starting with the last sentence, so as you move along you are repeating everything and adding a sentence at a time. Well worth teaching to all students. Luke gives lessons from his life, such as learning Latin, Greek and becoming an Army helicopter pilot, memorizing all the specifications and emergency procedures.

As an adult memorization is considered to be difficult, boring, a chore to be avoided. With children, memorization is like a game to play. They don't see any difficulties, they just see the fun of achieving a goal.

I believe the memorization necessary in learning Latin is an outstanding reason to study Latin. Memorizing declensions and conjugations are perfect for developing the mind.

Where are the memory and recitation practice found in the curriculum?

I really appreciate and enjoy these discussions. I enjoy seeing the close friendship between you all. Wonderful encouragement to stay the course of classical learning. Thank you so much for sharing.

I was a public school teacher and part of my duties was to have my students learn the European and African countries. During conferences with parents, multiple were upset at this because they thought their students could just look it up. Philosophically, and granted I was young and had little to back up my convictions, I thought memorization practice was useful for brain health and to build confidence as a learner. It was jarring how few agreed with me and they removed that aspect from the curriculum. The next year I became pregnant with my first child and my husband and I decided that I would stay home and homeschool.

I agree with the importance of math facts. My oldest is approaching 4th grade, and doesn't have any multiplication memorized aside from the 2's. But she can skip count effortlessly by 3s,4s,5s,6s,7s,8s,9s, 10s, and 11s. Do you have any tips on how to memorize multiplication facts? We do drills and flash cards, but she always ends up needing to skip count to reach the answer.

This discussion was good but too focused on Rufus and Sheppard. In my mind, Norton was the protagonist of the story and the subject of the title. He was the first character in the book that was described as lame after all - pp447 line 5, ""I don't know", the child said lamely." From that perspective, the ‘reason’ for Norton doing what he did is plainly written a bit father down the passage you read out loud.-- “”When I’m dead will I go to hell or where she is?” Norton asked. “Right now you’d go where she is,” Johnson said, “but if you live long enough, you’ll go to hell.”” So Rufus explicitly told Norton what he needs to do in order to unite with his mother 'right now'. If you are reading with Norton's reception in mind, you can imagine how these words would have struck him like thunder. Of course, Sheppard, being the obtuse father he is, dismissed the comment immediately and didn’t even think about how it would impact Norton who he didn't think was bright enough to be affected by anything Rufus said. Another passage that I think is important but wasn’t mentioned in this discussion is the considerably lengthy part where O’Connor writes from Norton’s point of view. This passage really got my attention because I've rarely seen O'Connor switch povs within her short stories. It starts with a scene where the boy sits in the dark surrounded by the flower seeds. Whenever there’s a lightening, it lights up the ‘garden’ around him. Remembering that his mother was a nature lover, who liked to eat outside, this scene may be a metaphor or Norton's inner landscape - he's lost and is desperately looking for ways to find his way back - to her, in to her garden of love, back to the time when his father didn't constantly judge and condemn him to be selfish and 'not bright enough'.

Does MP press uses memorization through Music?

Love it ❤

What if Donald Trump is Coriolanus reincarnated? Does anyone see anything personalitywise about the two that would definitively rule this possibility out? I mean I died in Ancient Rome when Vesuvius blew but I was never more than a mere centurion.

Amen❤

Thank you for the encouragement!

Lists make actionable steps of these great discussions! I love these and am beginning my first book from the list tonight!

I love Mario Reading's books, wouldn't call them christian, but the main character in his books is always a religious person, a Christian. And they're quite witty and interesting. That's an ITV production, an excellent tv series Hornblower with Ioan Gruffudd.

Excellent!!

Does anyone know the name of the painting at 1:12?

Don Quijote is so funny!

Came across this story on JSTOR and was interesting enough that I read the whole thing in one sitting. God what a great story, definitely my favorite from Flannery O'Connor.

There is a Cain, a farm worker, in Hardy's "Far from the Madding Crowd." He explains to Bathsheba that his mother had gotten the names in the story confused.

I always come away with great information, but my favorite part of these podcasts is hearing what each of you is reading.

We have a small balcony and we keep killing plants but have learned so much from the experience.

Is the “summer reading list” accessible to us? Or are you just referring to all the books on the MP curriculum in general? 😅

Thank you for this inspiring and timely conversation. It’s the parents and the teachers who need to be first the role models to show virtuous character for their students. It’s indeed a life style, trickling down from above (and Above!). From what I see, most modern schools only put virtues on posters or turn them into slogans. Christian classical education (at least Memoria press) walks the walk, and is the only way to turn this country back to her greatness. God bless you!

With the resurgence of virtue epistemology over the past 50 years or so, there has been some good contemporary work done on intellectual virtues education. The resources that are out there help to connect the ancient ideas of character formation to the modern world.

All of the classical schools here in Australia are now infiltrated with the woke (a.k.a. Communist) agenda. They are private schools receiving government funding, making them government schools by proxy. Home school in the classical tradition is the only way for me. I am happy to take on this responsibility.

I had a classical education however there is no diploma or certificate for it.

I'm glad to hear from you guys 😁.

At first it I thought Caleb was like Kathy but half way through realized it was Aaron with that evil.

Troy is not Greek , you need to know luvian and hatties...

Fabulous video, short but more impactful than hundreds of longer KJV supporting videos out there. A Really powerful statement for the KJV. And great pictorial accompaniment to the excellent speaker.

I was going to cry "bo*****s" when I read the caption, but once I actually watched the reel I can't help but agree. As a teen, I read voraciously, but as a late teen, I got sucked into the Harry Potter world and it took me till I met my husband and my focus changed to get out of reading fanfiction for hours every day, wasting my life away trying to find some good writing amidst the ocean of swill. And it was definitely an addiction. I still like Harry Potter but I'm happy to say that 10 years on I've moved back to a more wholesome and diverse classical literary diet.

This make no sense. If Greek and Latin is so important to read the poems etc in original language, then the Bible must not be read other than in Hebrew. These languages consumed much precious time that should have been used for environment study, french etc.

I love North and South! ❤

Dude... Hearing you talk about people missing the point- I can't tell you how many people I've encountered online who think the romance between Anna Karenina and Vronsky is completely enviable. Ugh.

I read Anna Karenina one summer when my daughter was a baby.