Yep!

What's the proper method?? Thinking about buying one of these and wondering how to run it with a sentry noise gate (4CM)

Glad to hear you enjoyed the video, thanks man! And yea, I was bummed about the Sophgate. Was really hoping it would be a good noise at a lesser price than the others, but goes to show how much better noise gates get with just a little more investment

That might work but I personally like the gate the loop of my amp to get rid of the hiss that is produced from the power amp

That would be the proper 4cm way to do it. It gates pre amp and fx loop while saving 2 loop slots.

​@yannickcharron3193 and then just plug all remaining pedals (I have 8) into each individual loop of the switcher?? 🤔

Yea I definitely favor the TC, just felt the most natural to me, the revv is cool but I think it’s a very specific kind of tool, ya know?

Hm that one is definitely a little more complicated. I would recommend you out the sentry before the amp/pedal distortion you are using while keeping the fuzz in front of it. I think that might work

So glad to hear that man!!

I have a video where I cover that! Check out my channel for a full walk through of how to do it!

@@kaihoosier4716 thanks for the helpful video. I have a quick question. Where will I put my wah pedal in the chain? Is it after the noise gate and am I created a send and return for that pedal as I see in some diagrams some people plug guitar into wah then wah into the in of the Joyo pro so just about confused by it and I’ve just subscribed to your channel 😊.

No problem!! Glad I could help! Greetings from Ohio, USA!

I personally love the Joyo PXL Live, I have another video on how to use its midi features with an EVH. Just a good quality looper for a decent price, I’d definitely check it out!!

@@kaihoosier4716 Yes the model you have looks cool. I was also checking the Moen GEC9 unit, which is a little more money so I need to decide. I found a video that explains how easy the Moen is to program... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLmSn7ycnLuyaX0.html

@@uptownphotography I looked at the GEC9 but there does not seem to be a lot of info on it and seems to be a little more complicated

@@kaihoosier4716 The Moen V2 (version 2) is the latest one and pretty easy to program. I just don't know if i would like to spend the extra money however as i don't use a lot of effects. The JOYO unit is cool too. Both are quality units I'd say...Thanks... Phil

Hey man! Sorry but I haven’t really been making videos of late, but I totally get the tone kill thing. I currently don’t plan on getting the zuul+, just don’t need another noise gate right now, but that is a great video idea! The next best thing I could imagine for the sentry would be using the tone print app and adjusting some frequencies etc, that may help you a little. I believe Gary holt from Exodus/slayer and Scott Ian had their own tone prints for the sentry. Maybe give those a try and let me know if that helps!

The extra $100 probably gets you durability and maybe some customer service. My sentry just stoped working one day and only lasted 1 maybe 2 years loved it when it worked but now it doesn’t even turn on and it’s getting power to the dc terminals and the buttons contact ins and outs so I think somehow the board got fried but I can’t tell

@@jamesanderson9428 lots of variables with gear mines been working 6 yrs but ive had new items that had poor solder on one little part

It’s a solid noise gate for sure, I think I prefer it with my Marshall JVM210h honestly tho, to each his own!

@kaihoosier4716 I use one g8 in front of the amp to gate the noisy pedals as well as the preamp, and then I use another g8 in the fx loop to gate my preamp pedals and EQ

Yea that’s how I used to have it! I discovered I just liked this way a little bit more as it seemed to be a lil tighter

You could be using 0 loops for your gate while gating pre amp and fx loop.

How could I do this? I am new to using a switcher, but very familiar with 4 cable method into effects loop etc, I am buying a switcher and trying to learn as much as I can.@@yannickcharron3193

I’m not sure but I would assume so! Try it out and let me know!

Thanks man! I’m actually using the G8 with my Marshall JVM210h and it works wonders!

That seems odd, message me on Facebook and we can try talking it over or even do a video call to try to sort it out!

My Ceriatone King Kong has a 5 pin midi switch. You have several options if you know the pin out of your amps switching. You can mount a midi connector to your board, and solder 1/4" jacks to it, or find an adapter. For mine, I just needed a midi to 1/4 splitter.

I think so but I’m unsure how to program that

That guy Henning, from Etsypi, has a really in depth video on the PXL Live, including the trigger outputs. The trigger outputs should definitely be able to change the channels

@@kaihoosier4716 yes, but I have the Pro version, not Live. Anyways I think you can do it. I’ll try in a few days.

I don't think you can. Because evh uses momentary switches or something so most changers won't work

@@toxichompdiepsplixio3921 thanks bro. I finally changed it by the Joyo Live which has Midi outputs, but a few months later I got rid of all my pedalboard and got a Quad Cortex which I now use with EVH 5150 IRs.. never been happier.

Hm are the other channels working when you try to switch channels?

@@kaihoosier4716 I got it working bro. I wasn't confirming the channel on the head. Either the red or green will blink to confirm. Its a little beast

@@eddiegarcia8596 aye glad to hear it’s working for you man!

They are the Kurrent Electric solderless patch cables!! You can find a set of them on Reverb, I love them and they’re very easy to make!!

@@kaihoosier4716 Thank you so much!

@@PanteraGs1 no problem man, let me know how you like em! I have bought the Daddario cable tester for like $15 or whatever just to test each cable, might save ya some hassle!

Thanks man, let me know if you have any questions!

Anything I can do to help! Awesome username by the way!

Hey buddy, I am having an issue with setting up the blue channel on my 50w stealth. It keeps going to the green channel.

@@jonvanwhalen2341 that’s odd, I would make sure that you keep the amp in programming mode whenever you start messing with the JOYO, make sure that you have each channel assigned a different number, and make sure to fully save the change at the end as well.

Don’t know why or how but I was finally able to set it up. Do you have a pop when activating pedals to add them to a channel? It’s not consistent, but does happen for me.

@@jonvanwhalen2341 glad to hear you got it working! I think the popping thing might just be something with the pedals themselves or maybe even just patch cables. I don’t really switch pedals on and off, mainly just leave them on for their separate loops so I might have to go back and see.

Thanks man!

That’s a good question, I’m not sure sure honestly because I have my FX loop on all the time. If you were going to try it, I would try programming the amp with the footswitch plugged in and when you save the preset, turn the FX loop on or off to see if that would work. I would assume MIDI would be capable of doing so.

I can with my PXL pro and Peavey 6505mh.

What midi number do you use to program fx on and off? I tried 85 and above but im not getting any signal?​@yannickcharron3193

Unfortunately I had the same mindset and it caused so much confusion when I first got the sentry but I’m pretty sure this is the correct way. The input of the sentry is typically for your guitar, the send goes to the front of the amp, the return catches the fx loop, and the output sends out the signal. I’m pretty sure that’s the the sentry is supposed to be used from what I’ve seen of diagrams showing ways to use it. You can google ways to use sentry noise gate and you’ll get some diagrams that help show it. Thanks for the comment!

@@kaihoosier4716 Im setting a pedal board with a different approach to the Sentry. Guitar Goes to the Sentry Input. Sentry Send goes to Wha Pedal Before the switcher. Wha output goes to Loop 1 input. Loop 1 output goes to the Amp Input. Amp Send goes back to the Sentinels Return. Sentinels Output Goes to the Loop 2 Input. This way all the loops from Joyo Loop 1 handling gain or and distortion as well as the amp are inside the sentinels noise gate loop. Second loop has an EQ, a Volume pedal and a Helix Stomp. I can bypass all the pedals in the first loop to go directly to the helix stomp if I want. I can also by pass the Amplifer preamp if you connect the L4 send to the input and the amp send to the L4 Return in the 1st loop, if that is the case Loop 1 output goes to Sentinels Return and Sentinels output goes to Loop 2 input. Remember that Stereo Effects that dont use distortion shouldnt create more noise, therefore you dont need to keep those in the noise gate loop.

You got it right mate. That would gate pre amp and fx loop and save 2 loop slots.

Aye thanks man!! 😂