What the PR MBA means with riff salad is not the usage of riffs per se but the tendency of certain bands to stitch together many riffs and call that a song. That is mostly a problem in modern metal. Complexity for the sake of it comes across as a bit uninspired. If the piece of music is coherent, it should not matter if it is hard to play or if it has many notes or not. The result matters and there are many ways to achieve a good bit of music. Some need to be complex some need to be rather simplistic. Both and everything in between have their worth.

Listen to hansons’ mmmbop reversed. Clearly dolly parton ai. ALOT of female country music had been dolly parton ai, most likely even dolly parton herselves

These critics came from a time before it was widely known that anyone can sound cocky and confident but it doesn’t make what they’re saying smart

Video warning of ai made by ai

Ai disrupting every human created art is despicable af

Magma is such a great band

I get where you're coming from, but this is capitalism at work. It's about maximizing efficiency and increasing profit. Also, I enjoy AI generated music. I also used to be the bass player for a cover band for 10 years. I get it. It's cool to feel special cause you can make music and others can't. Time is changing though. It's lame people are using it to scam spotify tho.

I as a musical artist and producer will always be me not Ai. I'm always genuine

As someone who uses AI as part of a serious, non-exploitative music creation pipeline, people on both sides of this issue drive me stark raving bonkers. On the one hand, you have the idiots who think it's okay to flood the market with click-button created trash, and insist they are somehow entitled to a payday. On the other side, you have the idiots who think AI can't be used to create real art, and that anyone who claims otherwise ranks just *BENEATH* the Nazis in the scale of who counts as "good people". I am a writer. Words are my talent. But music has always been my passion. When I write lyrics, I can hear the songs in my head, but with AI tools like Suno, I have been able to bring them out of my head and into the world. It's never a fast process, because I often have to re-generate each section of a song dozens of times to get it to sound like I envisioned it, and even then, there's a lot of post-production I do both on my own and with the help of my girlfriend to get a track just the way I want it. Out of 1k credits on Suno, I get (on average) three songs that match my vision and that I could share with others without shame. That also reflects, at minimum, an hour of work each (though given how naturally writing lyrics comes to me, the majority of that time is spent scrapping failed music generations and trying again, with the next-biggest chunk going to post). *EDIT: That's an hour per song segment, so each verse, the chorus, a lyrical bridge if I have one, etc.

For every person like you only using generators to "previsualize or practice before recording your own voice" theres a 100 people that generate the whole song, image or design without hesitation, especially on corporate level where it matters. This is really like saying that I support the petroleum industry to use gas in my lawn mower in my garden but something certainly should be done to reduce the amount of cars globally.

I love ELP since high school in the early 70s. Never heard the term "prog" until this decade... 🤷‍♂️

"DJ Not You Style Tebang" is so bad that is good

I'd say the essence of Canterbury has little to do with genre, personnel, or, particularly, geographic determinism. Instead, it's more about a certain sensibility: dead-pan wit, unapologetic silliness, lightly-worn erudition, musical ecumenicalism, and virtuosity deployed as a means not an end. One of the regular clichés is the "scene" is quintessentially English, which may be true, but it's the weird, wide-open- mindedness of, say, William Blake, Lewis Carrol, Michael Powell (another Kentish lad), The Goons and Monty Python rather than the beligerant, close-minded, xenophobic middle-Ingerlnd that it truly represents. After all, Canterbury is closer to France than it is to London!

You know what...any idiot who defines music and decides what is best for the people is a jerk.

Lots of things i can think of are already mentioned in the comments including Cassandra Gemini which might be my fave. Not seen Pineapple Thief mentioned so "Parted Forever" (18mins) & "What we have Sown" (27mins) are my contribution.

critics are pretentious by nature. Professional jealousy?

No mention of the Moody Blues 1969 “To Our Children’s Children’s Children “ ????? The whole album is about outer space and dedicated to the moon landing. So dam typical to leave out the Moody Blues.

You keep mixing up remixing and remastering. I don't think the terms are interchangeable.

Keep feeling butthurt that I can actually make an ai song, with lyrics I wrote, and make it sound 100X better than more than 3/4 of what current mainstream music churns out. Music is music. It's either good or it's bad. Deal with it.

Prog snob? You mean a Tool fan

"This is of course the correct position to hold...but you can't just go around saying it." You spent 8:27 setting up that nice deadpan line, and you totally stuck the landing!

That question can be answered in one word. Envy.

That's easy... because jazz and classical musicians do everything that prog musicians do but better! The things that prog is good at, jazz is better at. Also, prog lyrics tend to be childish and overblown. I don't give a fuck how many time signatures a song has or how many tropes you've ripped off from Tolkien, if its soulless virtuosity, it sucks, and that's what a lot of prog is. (Note: Zappa is exempt from this criticism, and he's not really prog.)

I normally don't paint with a broad brush, but in this case "Critics are funking idiots" and know nothing.

do critics still hate prog? it seems like such a 1970s or 1980s thing. haven't they moved on?

The only thing the critics achieved was that people with good taste learned to ignore this garbage line of think.

they are paid to be mean.

they want sell the shit noise without imagination or techniques that is easy to produce and can play on the radio cheaply

What would Mozart or Beethoven or Bach would do if you give them the 70's instruments and studios?

probably they are frustrate musicians that can't play or create virtuose music or they are paid to say bad things.

Because it's boring, most of the time...

YES! you make an important point about the 1970's studio medium producing sonic blending via tape roll-over- an effect which musicians worked around. Thuss the 2015 YES ALBUM mix can seem musically unstable. eg, with 'Yours Is No Disgrace' the main melody line absolutely dissolves into the dissonance of the 11th-chord vocal textures, which being pushed forward favor the harmonic structure. These remixes are acts of revelations at times

Your analysis, insights, and scholarship are impressive. Well done.

Progressive rock after 1975 overstayed it's welcome. The world moved on.

very interesting thought, thanks... prog was interesting until 1975... after that, most groups released less strong records, whether Genesis, Pink Floyd or Gentle Giant... two years later, the punk arrived full of new energy and wiped out all that... I repudiated prog when I fell into punk/new wave/industrial in the early 1980s... but today I appreciates prog classics as much as punk classics...

Prog rock is head music. Real trippy. It’s not for everyone. You have to dig deep and look for it. I like it ‘cause it’s really out there, stellar. I’m not always in the mood for radio singles or straight forward simplistic music.

In reality all contemporary music of western origin* evolved at its root from mostly European classical. For some closer examples hip hop began as an offshoot of disco which was heavily Motown influenced and which was THE defining pop subgenre for much of the 1970s. Progressive, art, and theatre rock as well as heavy metal spawned from late 1960s psychedelic rock which itself came from a mix of folk rock and non-western musical influences (this was later reinjected into western music via artists such as Talking Heads and Peter Gabriel incorporating Afrobeat into their sound from the 1980s onwards) as well as those from the British invasion (both of which were in part contributed to by The Beatles lead guitarist George Harrison who brought Indian influence into The Beatles later work as well as his solo career) whose artists in turn gained influence from the predominantly American 1950s rock n rollers and Motown artists who were all influenced by some combination of blues, jazz, and country. Going forward from progressive rock we get the creation of punk as an antithesis to its long-winded compositions with their short aggressive songs with simple chords and unpolished vocals; though ironically many of the greats in both scenes collaborated even at the time and speak very highly of each other. New wave and by extension its various offshoots and subgenres such as synthpop (just to name one off the top of my head) has roots in both prog and punk with many artists from both scenes either moving genres or collaborating heavily with new wave and synth pop/synth rock artists going into the 1980s. Many artists of those genres cite progressive rock artists such as Rush, and Peter Gabriel and/or Steve Hackett era Genesis as major inspirations such as the members of Norwegian synthpop-rock band a-ha (also if you haven't listened to them beyond Take On Me you don't get to dispute the rock categorization). Electronic music originated due to things like synthesizers and drum machines/electronic drums which were popularized by synthpop artists of the 1980s. Some techniques of which (such as gated reverb on drums) were discovered and first popularized by former and then current lead singers of Genesis; Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins respectively who of course have indisputable progressive rock origins; and autotuning and other vocal effects which itself has since spun into things like dubstep. Meanwhile synthpop (especially that emulating an 80s style) has been revitalized in the 2010s (due to nostalgia cycles and Lorde and pop superstar Taylor Swift's influences) and to some extent the 2020s where it has itself spun into things like bedroom pop which has became the musical perching spot for artists such as cavetown and girl in red. This is a major over simplification and doesn't include nearly all the subgenres that were part of 20th and 21st century music but ultimately any two no matter how distant they seem probably have some tangential connection. Is this to say that liking one subsection of modern western music obliges you to like it all? No of course not! It is however an encouragement to give things a chance. If you end up hating it feel free to turn it off next time it comes on, but at least consider giving it a spin (whether literally or metaphorically) first. *I know this is a loaded term for some people and the stark distinction between so-called "western" and "eastern" music has been falling apart since at least the mid to late 1960s thanks to and as evidenced by some of the examples mentioned above and when it comes to culture at large the crumbling of that divide has been happening (sometimes slowly and sometimes in a huge wave) since at least the end of the second World War and perhaps even the first one.

I like his mix of Rush's A Farewell to Kings, such a well balanced mix and magically creative use of panning on the drums. He should have been asked to do all the albums as Richard Chycki's mixes are full of mistakes, and all lack bottom end.

spacemen 3,here and now

ash ra tempel,acid mothers temple

you just provided a tutorial on how to it, especially when suggesting distrokid as though they were your sponsors

The only wrong part here is botting part/manipulating the system to steal views from others by duping the same track and posting it under different names over and over. AI generated music in general is not wrong. It only becomes wrong if it is of poor quality and you artificially push it through the algorithm. It is 100% okay to make money off of AI generated music if people end up liking it. After all, that's what matters in the end, isn't it? The quality of the end product. For example, an artist can spend hours, even days to produce art, which you could generate with an AI within seconds. One costs money and the other doesn't. Both are same quality. Which do you choose? For your convenience you would ofcourse, choose AI. It is about what fulfills your need. That is all what most people think about. Yeah that artist put a lot of effort in creating the good quality art, which AI can generate within a few seconds. Effort and hard work doesn't matter. That is the truth of the world. You can put lots of effort into something and AI can do better than you did. Just means that your content was inferior to an AI's

ffs... I found this video after investigating because I heard a couple of suspiciously garbagey sounding spotify songs pushed into my recommended. It's even worse than I thought.

We can be mad about it or adapt to it. Either way it’s not going anywhere

Great video. This was a very nice, in depth exploration and analysis of Progressive Rock and why the Rock critics hated it. It just boils down to personal bias, lack of objectivity as well as no taste in good music!

Unbelievable 😡 this is absolutely brutal to musicians such as myself who has struggled to get out music out there genuinely. I'd say this has to stop ASAP. The musicians are struggling because of this garbage 😡

Well, they don't ... The haters of prog-haters of prog-haters of prog-haters of prog-haters are just haters. Like hating americans making a video on things they haven't got a clue about,.

Wonderful, that someone felt the urge to make a video like this! Thanks man!

It's very hard to analyse a song with the mas of 5 songs in its entirety if you haven't even analysed a single song with the mass of 2. I am not just saying this to be pretentious, most songs just do not aim for a complex structure because that burden is supposed to be carried by the next song, which means that critics just are not trained with analysing multi-section song structure.

About the AI art cover I'm fine with them. I don't like AI art but I don't think we should blame the broke musicians who can't pay for the real art. People say it's a missed opportunity but that logic is weird. When a broke ass collage student eat a cup noodle instead of going out for a dinner, will you say that it's a missed opportunity for restaurants? In some cases people just choose for a cheaper option when they think it's not that important. I mean they are musicisns not painters. As a musician and an illustrator myself I'm all good when an artist use generic souless AI music for their speedpaint video or something cause that's not the point for them