Koreans often hear strange rumors and believe them to be true.

It was possible because Soviet Union was collapsing and people back then thought they won't be fighting a second cold war. Soviets decided to pay off their debts with weapons they thought they wouldn't need in decades.

@@user-yv4wv3nw8c well..... i grew up in a place you're telling me about

@@Fesko-ly1wr I mean money is not the issue its more about political and security concern. Even before the war in Ukraine such deal between russia and south korea was already unlikely to happen, because we have the cold war again. Korea managed to develop K2 out of M1 and T80 and Russia began to realize the tech security issue.

홍천 3기갑에 있다가 kctc로 갔는데 최전방 부대에서 어떻게 봤다는건지..

모스크바에서 몰래 훔쳐온 탱크입니다.

k2 is basically one of the best mbt ever, l55 120mm with autoloader

"우크라이나"

우크라이나는 소련때 같은 나라였으니

@@decen9053 친러

@@be734 우크라이나가 왜 친러냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

@@riretf 였던것

T72는 북한에 없음 t62임

그냥 K1 구난전차입니다..

순간 독일제 장비를 우리가 쓴다고..?했는데 헷갈리실수도 있겠네용ㅋㅋㅋ

공장 3곳중 2곳은 망하고 1곳은 우크라이나에 있음ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

그냥 고무로된 흙받이 입니다 ㅋㅋ

@@user-fw3de2be4m 멈춰서 보니 그냥 흙받이 위로 올린거네요..ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

국방연구소에 의하면 3.5세대로 분류되고 k1a1보다 좋다고 판단했데요 부품수급 문제되기 전까진 계속 쓸듯여

@@mushroomfany0801 k1보다 우위 k1a1보다 조금 아래로 평한걸로 아는데..

That's why Russia wants them back. They offered the koreans to buy them but they refused.

Even the Russian instructors whom were sent to South Korea never seen that spec T-80U; some sensitive system such as radio was included along with Russian special tree log on the side haha

@AckeyHacker the ussr borrowed money from s korea in the 1980's but they went broke so the paid it back with resources and weapons

맞아 잘알고있네 한.러 경협차관대신 불곰사업으로 러시아에서 다운그레이드 없이 원판으로 들여온 T-80U 전차야 굉장한 성능과 신뢰성을 가졌고 한국의 최첨단 차기전차를 개발하고 전술을 연구하는데 매우 큰 도움을 준 전차야 러시아에서 들여올때 정규군이 쓰는 똑같은 제품이 들어왔고 부장품 기관총 심지어 승무원들이 쓰는 모자 등도 러시아군이쓰는것과 똑같이 들어와서 많은 놀라움을 준 무기였어 러시아가 다운그레이드를 안하고 원판을 보내주다니

Yup. Supposedly pulled directly from the stockpile of tanks in storage to defend Moscow.

외국도 도로로 돌아다니기야 하겠지ㅋㅋ

Because of their debt. As Russia had no money, they give Korea t80

russia gave t80 instead of money.

However, improvements such as K1A1 have been steadily upgrading the system, so I think K1 has a higher actual combat capability.

@@user-yb8ld1jw4h nope. K1 has no real combat experience. T80 has. K1 is equal to T72. Also, T80 has given pulse for K2.

I was a T-80 catcher with the 3rd Cavalry Division at ROKA.We were able to defeat K1 at KCTC and check inside after the training. The K1A1 (improved version of K1) has a T-80 equivalent penetration and mobility, and a better fire control system, instead of a slight drop in protection. I think K1A1 is in the same class as T-80u or greater than that. Of course, K1 doesn't have any field experience, but we have enough combat training and data links to share the advantages and disadvantages of tanks.

Oh, KCTC is one of Korea's training exercises, like a real war, assuming a large-scale battle! I wish my experience would help.

@@user-yb8ld1jw4h Bro, when I said battle experience I meant, that, armour effectivity, fire control system stability, ergonomics and + crew experience etc...K1A1 probably has equal or better fire control system (I have no doubt of this) but if T80 FCS when upgraded than, its easily equal to K2. Soviets has lots battle experience and their tanks are built accordingly. Training is not battle experience. Its always different in the battle than in training.

요샌 어지간한 강원도 경북 산골에도 죄다 아파트가 있어요...아파트 공화국 맞습니다 ㅋㅋ

그 동네가 읍내는 아니니까요. 어지간한 깡시골 군도 읍내에 아파트 단지가 없는 동네가 어딨습니까..

@@decen9053 없어요. 울진군 살았는데 저런 아파트 단지 없습니다. 소형 아파트 조그만한것만 있지. 모르면서 아는척 하지마세요. ㅋㅋㅋ

설계부터 서방제랑 호환성이 안맞아서 그럴게 개발할 비용를 흑표 생산에 더 투자하는게 이득일거임 부품은 뭐 아직까지 있어서 전부 잘 굴려간다함

그리고 이거 러사아 공장에서 막 출시된 따끈따끈한 신형으로 가져왔단 사실을 아십니까?

@@Ch12JS 게다가 러시아에서 테스트를 마치고 한국에 들어왔을때 사통장치, 조종부 빼곤 포장이 안뜯긴채로 왔다고 하죠 ㅋㅋ 이제 곧 못볼테긴 하지만 여러모로 참 고마운 전차죠.

m1a1까진 아니고 우리가 m48쓸때 북괴가 m-60a3 도입한 느낌

@@riretf 후기형은 아니더라도 T80이면 에이브람스 초기형에 빗댈만함