That's the best of both worlds right there! Those shovels are fun to ride, but they take some upkeep!

Freight and prep is standard but 1500 sounds high but freight is up to about 900 bucks now for touring bikes, 1350 for trikes and 700 for everything else so 1500 isn't too bad.

Honestly on a Sportster there's not much to go wrong. If they are well taken care of 27K is nothing, they don't have all the watch out situations like the big twin engines. I've bought Sportsters dirt cheap with 50K on them and they still have great compression and no issues to speak of.

I gotta say those aftermarket Evo clones are pretty solid motors. Granted some blow up but for the most part I have found them to be very reliable engines.

I feel you, I can't stand the "I'm a bad ass crowd". Just ride, nobody cares, people trying to look and act cool makes the general public hate motorcycles and the rest of us get lumped in.

I can't stand car dealers and the games, this is a huge reason why I am still driving the same truck I bought gently used 15 years ago lol.

I am not disagreeing with you one bit, people do it and that's why they continue to do it. I feel like the sales tactic is to get you excited and loaded up with accessories rolled into your loan, get you to sign before you realize what's going on. That's why you see A LOT of buyers remorse on cycle trader with someone trying to privately sell a bike for more than new but it's loaded out with accessories.

It's really at Harley dealers but it seams like if you want a metric you have to go to a "power sports" dealer and they aren't much better.

@@GixxerFoo Poway POWERSPORTS doesn't have any assembly, dealer, or add-on fees. They even discount leftovers.

That's awesome! Some of those bikes roached tensioners within 10K miles! That's why I always say every bike is different and not all the tensioners failed.

That was always the big thing about the Sportster was 2.1 gallon peanut tank, get you about 80 miles lol. I was happy when they started putting the 3.3 gallon on and then the 4.5 gallon on the custom.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n72DftR43a2no5s.html This video about a minute 40 is what a stock Harley EFI tune looks like.

I like those cams, there's really not a bad aftermarket cam out there. It really boils down to what kind of power you want and where.

The way dealers have gone these days I could almost seeing the future of vehicle purchases being the way Tesla does it. You basically order online and visit one of their service centers to view models and pick up your ride when it comes in.

It's even in the owners manual that you can run it as an alternative. But Harley manual language puts it that running diesel oil is a last resort and get your bike to the dealer service department as soon as possible to get a fresh Screamin Eagle Syn 3 oil change lol.

I just get excited, but the audio is actually turned down.

@@GixxerFoo 😝😂😆 I hear ya. Have a good day.

I've said that for years, the thought of just using whatever as long as you change it often is really outdated like the 3,000 mile oil change. You can't argue with lubricating and wear properties during use, conventional or semi-synthetic can't touch how a full synthetic protects.

The tolerances on the original cam plate and oil pump are a lot looser than the S&S cam plate and oil pump which are more of a race plate. You've got a few options here, you can go back with the stock cam plate and oil pump using your new cam. I would go ahead and change the tensioners so you're fresh. You can use the S&S pushrods and lifters which I would recommend with the new cam. If you still want to use an aftermarket cam plate and oil pump check out Feuling OE. It's an upgraded cam plate and high flow oil pump much like the S&S but it's made to account for factory crank run out. You might see if you can return the cam plate and oil pump, or sell it. The next option is to take the motor all the way down and get the crank rebuilt or replace it with an already built crank. Don't use the S&S cam plate and pump with the runout you have, it will roach that cam plate and oil pump quick.

Evo fortunately is pretty much an aluminum shovel head, they share a lot in common!

Honda makes a solid motor, no doubt about that.

That's basically what it all boils down to is it doesn't matter what you use as long as you change it regularly.

You are right, this is why we have this going on at dealers is people are still buying and paying it. Harley isn't as hot as it was years ago, people are still paying the fees though.

A lot of people that's the first thing they do is get new head pipe on a touring bike to eliminate the cat. If you have slip ons on anything non touring the cat is gone since it's in the factory mufflers.

Nothing wrong at all with an oil cooler on a Harley, unless you're riding in a Canadian winter you can't cool them off enough.

Is your 2013 a hydraulic clutch or a cable clutch? Fluid is feeding up through the clutch cable and puking out at the perch?

@@GixxerFoo cable sir..it's coming from where the adjuster is on the cable

@@GixxerFoo I was told to run a zip toe into the vent hose to see if it was clogged? Now say there's a dirt dobber nest there would the dirt hurt the tranny?

Nothing wrong with that at all in a Harley, you'll want 20w50 in your Harley.

@@GixxerFoo Thanks dude. My friend was running his bike for a while on low oil. I change his oil yesterday and used that brand. Was iffy but he needed it. I got one half of a quart out of his bike when I drained the oil. Smh!

You can't beat a two into one for a Vrod, they run really good with those!

They are fun bikes and just something different, but I agree there are better choices out there depending on what you want to do.

You can't beat a Thundermax, they ain't cheap but they are well worth it!

That's awesome! I love seeing a police model redone up like that!

The Ultima is their own creation of an Evo, for sure built to handle that cam. Factory Harley cases wouldn't exactly handle that cam for very long.

Nice! I can imagine that bike is a lot of fun to ride!

300 more miles it will be broke in, and yes love the torque, I also have the transmission pulley at 34 tooth for my poor man's 6 speed transmission.

I bought my bike new in 03, had 90,000 on crank and 70,000 on my 95" top end with gear drive cams, it finally scissored the crank out 30,000 and pinion shaft. Quicker and cheaper for me to put the S&S motor in it. One day I will rebuild the original motor with a darkhorse crank. Not sure how many cubic inches yet. Just want to enjoy the T 111 for touring .

It's happening right now, same thing with Indian. Everything is going subscription these days. If you read the fine print on the electronic accessories in the catalog you'll calibration required, dealer fees and labor additional cost.

That's literally how they act at most dealers, that's been my experience as well!

If it's a 96 or 103 the Wood TW555 would be great cam for that bike!

Evo is basically and aluminum shovel head with the quirks worked out.