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@Chinhnguyen0497
@Chinhnguyen0497 3 күн бұрын
hi. may I ask a question? so delta give more speed, but when speed is the same with one draw more current? like delta has 1000 rpm and draw 3 amps so I rewind it with Wye and it have same 3 ampe draw. so does wye config give the same rpm? sorry for the dumd questions
@josemorenoromero7897
@josemorenoromero7897 Ай бұрын
Exelente video Eduardo, saludos 👍👍✌️✌️
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Ай бұрын
Gracias amigo!
@A_t_o_m
@A_t_o_m 2 ай бұрын
Красавчик, жи есть, брат! За базар отвечаю! 👍👍👍
@paulstir
@paulstir 2 ай бұрын
I have a working hoverboard motor (tested on another system ) , I have purchased a brand new 36v controller with lcd ( s866 ) brand new throttle and brand new hoverboard battery for my e bike project but I'm experiencing no throttle issues I have checked voltage and purchased 3 brand new throttles checked wires tried swapping around but still no throttle
@paulstir
@paulstir 2 ай бұрын
I have a working hoverboard motor (tested on another system ) , I have purchased a brand new 36v controller with lcd ( s866 ) brand new throttle and brand new hoverboard battery for my e bike project but I'm experiencing no throttle issues I have checked voltage and purchased 3 brand new throttles checked wires tried swapping around but still no throttle
@paulstir
@paulstir 2 ай бұрын
I have a working hoverboard motor (tested on another system ) , I have purchased a brand new 36v controller with lcd ( s866 ) brand new throttle and brand new hoverboard battery for my e bike project but I'm experiencing no throttle issues I have checked voltage and purchased 3 brand new throttles checked wires tried swapping around but still no throttle
@KevinSanchez-ts4pr
@KevinSanchez-ts4pr 3 ай бұрын
It’s kind of hard to ignore the fact that you welded with open toe sandals, but I mean who needs the skin on their feet right?🫣
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design 3 ай бұрын
That’s true! My bad…health and safety zero…next time I will improve a lot of thinks, including video quality.
@JoseDuarte-vu5mk
@JoseDuarte-vu5mk 3 ай бұрын
No se aprecia bien lo que se hace Es pequeña la imagen
@robivlahov
@robivlahov 4 ай бұрын
if i use the foc control thats usualy for this motor in wye, can it work in delta? or will stuff notwork as calculations need to be different somehow
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design 4 ай бұрын
I am using the FOC control as usually working in delta with no issues.
@robivlahov
@robivlahov 4 ай бұрын
@@Attic-Toy-Design did you self tune the algorithm tho ? I'm using the foc hack for the original board . Altho I did find people that got it to work . But I also saw I can get 1700rpm with field weakening ajd foc on wye so... Il see but thank you for the answer
@imnobody0034
@imnobody0034 4 ай бұрын
I'm guessing the delta configuration would produce higher voltage output, when the motor is being used as a generator? But, how much current can it generate?
@johnbarry8185
@johnbarry8185 4 ай бұрын
Will you please send a DIRECT link to the PCB that you used? Why did you ZIP through the sensor mounting? Thank you.
@MarkoStavricstavra
@MarkoStavricstavra 5 ай бұрын
I watched few videos with this mod to understand whats going on TO All who dont understand this : this is NOT delta , this is STAR configuration with parralel coils before mod it was also star but coils were in series ,because motor controller works like a variable frequency drive it runs slower without this mod , in essence youve just shorten the distance of wire , where u get 3x speed , bcs controller is same frequency , where youre exitacion is 3 times shorter, also current is 3x higher so u can burn out your controller or wiring ( find a controller for more current ). If someone wants this to use as a generator , this mod would only drop voltage by a third , but also increase current. FYI delta does not have neutral point.
@codebeat4192
@codebeat4192 5 ай бұрын
You don't need a break on a motor if you know how a motor works and what an electric motor can do by itself. Short two or all three wires together and try to turn the wheel by hand. By using low value resistors between the wires you can make a break.
@nelloalescio
@nelloalescio 7 ай бұрын
certi video si dovrebbero vietare,esguire un lavoro senza i minimi requisiti di sicurezza può spingere sprovveduti ad esecuzioni dannose e pericolose,per non parlare delle saldature e degli allineamenti dei profili,unica cosa buona forse l'idea
@bengoldberg8451
@bengoldberg8451 8 ай бұрын
for people wanting to do this: NO, this is NOT delta modded, but a configuration called triple Star. a normal hoverboard motor is 3 individual coils, with 3 coils in parallel for each phase, so 9 total coil sets. normally, 3 in series for each, and 3 together for a y config. delta modding is much simpler than this method in the video, as all it is is you undoing the y configuration's center tap, and wiring all 3 main coil sets in a loop. i will make a video at some point on how to actually delta mod motors, which is much simpler than this. however, i am currently messing with this method in the video and it will require INSANE levels of current to mess with, so you absolutely have to rewire the phase wires with higher gauge and temperature resistant wire.
@fluidmind3629
@fluidmind3629 8 ай бұрын
give me link to your video ot some tut please :) thanks
@dominickwest7558
@dominickwest7558 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see that video as well
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 5 ай бұрын
That is exactly what I thought watching it...why cut each individual coil. It is much simpler to just increase the voltage to go faster. If you use a ebike controllerr, most of them can actually run at 60v, so compared to 24 or 36, it would double the speed. You can also use a dc-dc converter to up your battery voltage from 36 to 60, I have some 1200 watt units I used on my ebikes for this.
@TallontedTinkering
@TallontedTinkering 9 ай бұрын
This is super awesome. I built a few hub motor powered skateboards. I haven't quite wanted to go faster than its max (13 mph), but when I do, I'm definitely going to do this. Thanks
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I’m glad that this project helped yours somehow.
@district99
@district99 9 ай бұрын
No update?
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design 9 ай бұрын
Hi buddy. Not yet…I am preparing 2 sets of video. One for the lithium battery bank and another one for the main frame.
@Virigis
@Virigis 10 ай бұрын
. Если это ваша идея, то вы разбираетесь в электротехнике, но тогда непонятно почему вы смирились с таким бешенным потреблением! . If this is your idea, then you understand electrical engineering, but then it is not clear why you put up with such frenzied consumption!
@Pgr-pt5ep
@Pgr-pt5ep 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing this process. I use my homemade disc sander powered by one of these motors. But I have to use a higher voltage source to get more rpm. I'll have to change to delta config if I want to use my 25v portable battery pack directly.
@rexizs6767
@rexizs6767 10 ай бұрын
i don't get it if this thing can go 3x speed with almost same amount of torque why manufecterers or everybody doesn't use this the must be a something negative about it maybe so much current draw or unhealty for the motor driver pls enlighten me
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design 10 ай бұрын
Less torque, higher speed, high current, increase in temperature, less battery range. This is a hub motor modification for a e-scooter project using 2WD (dual motor) instead of 1WD to compensate the less torque and balance the high current drain ad the temperature. High performance e-scooters use this system to achieve high speeds (80-100km/h). I hope I have enlightened you.
@torfinnsrnes6232
@torfinnsrnes6232 10 ай бұрын
To clear up the terminology the Y vs D connection does not affect rpm. This motor is a 30 pole 3 phase motor. As 30 poles the motor will spin at 200 rpm when fed 50Hz. This rewiring is reducing the number of poles inthe motor and hence the rpm increases, and the torque decreases.
@geckosvanity1667
@geckosvanity1667 Ай бұрын
So if you rewire and increase the number of poles it will increase torque? Maybe increase torque and use the wheel and a gear for a transmition for a small gokart or ebike
@trygun3034
@trygun3034 11 ай бұрын
absolutely fantastic job this help so so much
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design 11 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy. Your comment keeps me motivated to carry on!
@ciscoreyes4289
@ciscoreyes4289 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video.. I'm new to these mods, given that even w/o any mods, I run my little hoverboard motor using a 52v battery and a 48v controller, and I get close to 35 Kilometers per hour on my ebike . needless to say the motor gets hot. To prevent any wires from melting, I removed the hall sensors and operate it with a sensor less controller that i bought really cheap, once I took the hall sensor out I replaced the 3 motor wires with 12 gauge (awg) copper cable so it can tolerate the heat. . Will this mod work if the motor is sensor-less ? I would chip in a payment if you were to make a beginners mod video . . for those of us with less experience..
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design 11 ай бұрын
What a such lovely comment buddy. Keeps me motivated to carry on. Regarding sensor-less, it works but the speed motor controller needs the hall sensor in order to detect the position of the rotating magnet. The control system of the speed controller senses the rotor position and the proper voltage pattern is applied to the motor.
@TheZoinxtorque
@TheZoinxtorque 11 ай бұрын
mother of god .. !!! great project !!
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design 11 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I need to improve it. Specially my videos. I’m planning to finish the e-scooter this summer…
@user-es6nu9wx1p
@user-es6nu9wx1p Жыл бұрын
сварщик от бога;)))
@Flo-mb9zg
@Flo-mb9zg Жыл бұрын
ich habe ein Hoverboard Motor der Wirt bei 36V 40A 70Grad heis wen ich 72V 20A verwende wird der dann kälter ?
@Flo-mb9zg
@Flo-mb9zg Жыл бұрын
Hast du Probleme das Wasser in den Motor Leuft ?
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Ehrlich gesagt habe ich es noch nicht getestet, da ich das E-Scooter-Projekt noch nicht abgeschlossen habe. Aber ich denke, dass es unvermeidlich sein wird, dass Wasser in den Motor gelangt. Ich stimme Ihnen zu und werde dies auf jeden Fall berücksichtigen. Aber vorerst werden wir an sonnigen Tagen E-Scooter benutzen. 😉
@Flo-mb9zg
@Flo-mb9zg Жыл бұрын
frage hast du Probleme das Wasser in den Motor kommt ?
@fanaluckluck9237
@fanaluckluck9237 Жыл бұрын
💓💓💓
@katiekumcgil
@katiekumcgil Жыл бұрын
thanks ill definatly have alook at this
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Thanks Katie. It will worth it!
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof Жыл бұрын
Great job thank you for that I had not realized the performance could improve that much it's as if you bought an expensive e-bike motor and I had no idea that those little things had that much potential hiding inside of there, but then when I think about a hoverboard screaming like that with the modifications it would not have been a safe hoverboard (not even close) it would have been quite the little death trap wouldn't it have? Wow, and a helmet just wouldn't be adequate for keeping someone from injury, you'd need a 100 lb. Full body chainmail bodysuit if you hoped to keep any skin LMFAO 😊😅😂 Thanks for the awesome video and a mighty fine demonstration of how knowledge and understanding Beats ignorance every time even with all the worthless paper rectangles in the world to throw at it when it comes to realizing maximum potential. This unlocks a little secret for me because I had heard that Tongshen mid Drive kits in every tiar all use the same exact motor and now I know what that really means 😊 they're just configured differently and with the right modifications I can pretty much get the $1,500 one when I buy the $250 - $300 most basic one and unlock its potential. You have a new subscriber
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
What a great comment Robert! Thank you so much. You are a kind of person that brings motivation to me. I will try to finish the e-scooter middle frame and sort out the batteries. My problem now is time! Let’s see what happens this summer…take care buddy!
@barrysotero137
@barrysotero137 Жыл бұрын
Rad!.. (Going for it!.) Beef up those Tacked on Tabs (the ones taking the brunt of the force…The ones holding the Compression strut)
@TheZoinxtorque
@TheZoinxtorque Жыл бұрын
another imposibile project 😢..thanks for sharing !!!
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
👏
@ThatElliotKid
@ThatElliotKid Жыл бұрын
I’m looking at buying your pcb you sell any more new videos
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Hi Elliot! I’m planning to make more videos this summer finishing the E-scooter frame and batteries. The boards I have on eBay are quite useful but you need to reinforce the cooper tracks with plenty of lead free solder wire to support the high current generated by the motors and batteries.
@nangluongmattroisolarlight
@nangluongmattroisolarlight Жыл бұрын
Au71ii2iw😅😂😂😅😂
@ferhatunsal2066
@ferhatunsal2066 Жыл бұрын
hello my frend can you upload the schematic pls
@jianchen690
@jianchen690 Жыл бұрын
Hi:Can you make a video to connect these 9 coils in series to become a low speed generator?
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Yes, once I get some free time, I can do it…
@fernandob1831
@fernandob1831 Жыл бұрын
not bad but why use 2 small spacers and screws on the disc? perfectly a single adapter with long screws from inside the motor to the outside and instead of using cut screws use nuts, it will be more stable and firmer apart from the fact that it is better to tighten crosswise, first below, then above, little by little to the sides to prevent it from being tighter on one side and consequently it will not be aligned.
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
This adaptation was designed to suit my specific customised project. This video is only to inspire people and show to people that is possible to fit a disc brake onto a Hoverboard wheel. From there, all ideas are enabled like yours! I liked indeed. Thanks buddy!
@fedemon76
@fedemon76 Жыл бұрын
which electrode (type and thick) do you use with the 1.5mm thick profile and at what amperage?
@stefankristanto6163
@stefankristanto6163 Жыл бұрын
Cool. Can i just separate the 3 end crimp and connect them to 3 phase wire for more simple?
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy. You need to follow the rule. The speeds of Delta are high because each phase gets the total of line voltage.
@DeanBateman
@DeanBateman Жыл бұрын
Good job, I think a way to improve upon this would be an adapter with 12 holes (can be adjusted) but the idea would be half of the screws are attached from the rear and locktite in place, whilst the remaining screws can be accessed from the front to check tightness, maintain the brakes whilst using a full length screw. or if you can weld, weld the adaptor to the side plate and use all holes from the front
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dean! Your idea is something that I would consider in my next project. Due my lack of proper equipment, I’ve done this project on this way, as I don’t have alloy welder machine…I’m trying to save some money to invest on some decent equipment for my garage and definitely improve all my other ongoing projects. Stay safe mate!
@DeanBateman
@DeanBateman Жыл бұрын
@Eduardo Santacruz totally understand, sometimes you just got to work with what you have!
@chibleecinematics3705
@chibleecinematics3705 Жыл бұрын
I like your project
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Once I get find spare time, I will finish videos showing the lithium battery bank (36V 12Ah) main frame and the e-Scooter done and running…
@VinceAnido
@VinceAnido Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video - really interesting that you can get 1.8x more RPM with a re-wire. One question though - That shrink wrapped group of 3 wires during your disassembly was likely the star point (at 5:20 in video) - is there a reason you went through that whole snip/label/rewire and didn't just wire those directly to the delta points?
@VinceAnido
@VinceAnido Жыл бұрын
For what it's worth - I just rewired one without the elaborate labeling, cutting, PCB etc. ********Follow this advice at your own risk. I take no responsibility for you blowing up your motor & or controller.************* De-solder the star point. (Look at 5:20 in this video) Identify each strand as A/B/C - these are the ENDS (use a multimeter in continuity mode) On my motor, the winding order of the 'STARTS' was A/C/B (place where colored wires come through the hub and connect to the enameled wires. Green/Yellow/Blue colored wires). This was top to bottom with the hall effect board on the right side. YOURS MAY BE DIFFERENT. Wire the END of A to the START of B, the END of B to the START of C, and the END of C to the START of A. Take special care to cover all connections to prevent shorts. I was able to test mine without fully sealing it back up to make sure I didn't short anything and that it still worked. I got about 2.4x RPM (unloaded) after this modification (680rpm->1675rpm). Obviously reduced torque, but I didn't need it for my application.
@VinceAnido
@VinceAnido Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video - it put me on the right track to do what I needed to do. Keep it up!
@pavletrnic1433
@pavletrnic1433 5 ай бұрын
@@VinceAnido how was the torque affected? i want to do this for a go kart project
@VinceAnido
@VinceAnido 5 ай бұрын
@@pavletrnic1433 negatively 😔 Based on the simulations I've seen it's virtually a perfect trade-off. 1.8x RPM for 1/1.8 the torque. You may want to research wye/Delta switching. It's a technique used in scooters and bikes. Basically you bring out all the leads and make a switch to go from Delta to wye on command. Kinda like a two gear transmission but electronic.
@pavletrnic1433
@pavletrnic1433 5 ай бұрын
@@VinceAnido so i would have all the coil leads coming out of the stator and then switch them externally?
@Artiz...
@Artiz... Жыл бұрын
This is proper electronics Eduardo... excellent! I could see this brilliant hack being most useful when you use 2 hoverboard motors on a single, larger, fatter wheel. The combination of both configurations being 'optimal' for efficiently powering big wheel projects! Love to see someone come up with a 4WD using 8 x 350W Hoverboard motors... now that would be an absolute classic KZfaq project and still as 'cheap as chips' to build! Nice work Eduardo... thanks for sharing! SUBD! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLR1mathtciXf6c.html
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lovely comment! I need time to finish my E-scooter…let’s see what happens next year..
@M_S.C
@M_S.C Жыл бұрын
5:19 Never ever do that again!!! Never use a cutter like that.
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right…it was a big mistake. Could happened the worse! Safety comes first…I am improving my stuff. Thanks mate.
@gyankaurdung169
@gyankaurdung169 Жыл бұрын
VERY VERY GOOD SIR YOU ARE GREAT THANKS FOR KNOWLEDGE HARA KRISHNA
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏 I hope I can find some spare time to finish the frame, batteries bank and upload some videos…
@erichocman7277
@erichocman7277 Жыл бұрын
Continu comme ça, très intéressant et interresser. J ai hâte de voir la suite.
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Merci! Mon problème est le temps maintenant… pas le temps de finir… Je prévois de terminer l'intégralité de l'e-scooter et de télécharger la vidéo… Je vous tiendrai au courant!
@eriksonoliveira6981
@eriksonoliveira6981 Жыл бұрын
Eu tenho dois motores de hoverboard e o controlador, mas, ele não liga quando conectado na bateria. Ele dá um trampo e para. Ja testei de tudo. Vc teria alguma ideia? Já abri o motor... Já liguei com e sem o sensor rol... Obrigado. Deus te abençoe em nome de Jesus.
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Olá Erikson. Perdão demorar pra responder. Qual controlador vc está usando? O original do hoverboard ou um chinês? Se os dois motores estão com o mesmo problema eu desconfiaria do controlador. Abra os motores e verifique sinais de sobre corrente, fios queimados por super aquecimento, etc. verifique os sensores de efeito hall…mas tudo indica que o controlador do motor está com problema.
@eriksonoliveira6981
@eriksonoliveira6981 Жыл бұрын
@@Attic-Toy-Design Olá Eduardo. Estou usando um controlador de bicicleta que comprei. Ja abri os motores e visualmente está tudo ok. Medi continuidade... estou pensando msm que o controlador veio com defeito. Mas, Testei ele e ele não bipa na escala. Não tenho mais ideia.
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
@@eriksonoliveira6981 Verifica os 3 fios do motor se estão na sequência correta de acordo com o controlador, porque apesar de seguir as cores corretas, pode ser que alguma sequência esteja invertida…também verifique se os sensores hall são compatíveis com esse controlador. Eu compraria outro controlador…porque esse controlador pode ser incompatível com os motores de hoverboard..
@eriksonoliveira6981
@eriksonoliveira6981 Жыл бұрын
@@Attic-Toy-Design vou vê se ainda estou no prazo pra devolver o controlador e comprar outro. Obrigado, amigo.
@eriksonoliveira6981
@eriksonoliveira6981 Жыл бұрын
É muita inteligência. Parabéns, amigo.
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
Valeu Erikson! Faça o projeto! Vale a pena…
@edgefx1
@edgefx1 Жыл бұрын
no audio?
@Attic-Toy-Design
@Attic-Toy-Design Жыл бұрын
No audio….sorry…just in the end of the video….we’ll, at least is better no audio than so many annoying audio tracks sound from another KZfaqrs…I will improve my videos with audio next time…