I love how the sports top 2 players of all time have COMPLETELY different styles.
@boudusaved47193 ай бұрын
Some would argue Randy Daytona is the GOAT.
@Ametuer6 ай бұрын
It’s the Same… just one has has a cheaper racket….
@zubinbharucha66867 ай бұрын
Jan Ove Waldner is the greatest table tennis player in the world. If Ma Long met him in his prime, Waldner would adapt and beat him. That is why Ma Long will never be the Mozart of Table Tennis even after winning 1000 titles. Some things are given from the Almighty, they can never be taught or mastered.
@TK-25108 ай бұрын
The GOAT title is not dependent on titles or matches won. It’s right there is a correlation, but there is also charismatic personality and play style to be put into consideration. Waldner makes his opponents run a marathon with ease, with minimum effort. A single match or tournament has absolutely no value, there is too much numbers of variables which decide win or loss (Players with troubled minds won’t reschedule a tournament). Ma long was created in an inhumane sport factory in China. Waldner grew up in his passion. There is a difference.
@daniel20647 ай бұрын
"inhumane sport factory in China"s China hater....there are many super modern training table tennis camps for kids to national team..... As a Canadian I would say Canada's hockey program is similar......some parents of hockey kids are considered inhumane.
@DaigoParry2 ай бұрын
38mm ball kicks from the racket more. That means spin variation and spin deception has more consequence. If you read the spin wrong, you are more easily punished. 21 pts also mean energy conservation is a thing. You might start off well with gun blazing, but can you sustain 5 sets of 21? Multiple matches in a single day? Waldner's style was made for 38mm ball.
@olfiru23369 ай бұрын
If both were in their prime with any rules, Ma would effortlessly beat Waldner 3:0. Not only does ma have a relentless attack, and amazing footwork, his consistency, control, and placement are just out of this world.
@KA-eu9sy10 ай бұрын
Otto, the Sensei!
@traytyler995111 ай бұрын
No way people actually still saying this after ma long second gold right? Lmaoo bro all love for waldner but his fans delusional as fuck
@swagmoney165211 ай бұрын
It’s not that we’re delusional. Waldner left a lasting impact on the table tennis world. His success paved the way for a new wave of players from China like Zhang Jike, Ma Long, and Xu Xin. Even Ma Long himself said that Waldner is a player who transformed table tennis into an art and he hopes to learn from Waldner.
@pinkpanther8983 Жыл бұрын
Waldner is like Maradona to football
@DaemonRicks Жыл бұрын
Maybe they are both the greatest cause they didn't play the same rules.
@swagmoney1652 Жыл бұрын
Waldner hands down. Became the first goat in table tennis and China looked up to him a lot for inspiration. Without Waldner, China wouldn’t have been able to produce such champions like Ma long, Zhang Jike.
@yongdeng18133 ай бұрын
lol same could be said about waldner,without the Chinese there wouldn’t be a waldner or any waldner. The Chinese made waldner,though we Chinese came to admire him later on.
@bartvchopsuey Жыл бұрын
their channwl is gone table tennis daily
@KomalSingh05 Жыл бұрын
Do you know what happened??
@hermionegranger7849 Жыл бұрын
That fatty is not the best lol
@gustavwallin20042 жыл бұрын
Waldner is the only one who has won the world championships without lose a single game through out the whole tournament. That is a good reason why he can be considerd the best player of all time
@traytyler995111 ай бұрын
He played when China wasn’t good lmaoo how could you possibly say that? That’s like saying George mikan was the goat before black people were allowed to play basketball
@samguapo45732 жыл бұрын
Current table tennis is like the current NBA. It's "softer" today than before. Faster balls and lower nets would require much more skill and all. Age would definitely claim many victims as they lose speed.
@godknoweverything2442 жыл бұрын
Ma long RESULT MORE PRETTY THAN WALDER
@cindymmm112 жыл бұрын
Ma Long
@dustrober22 жыл бұрын
Jan ove waldner was more of an artist. Ma long, although spectacular to watch, is more of a high performing engine
@mariomoraga38912 жыл бұрын
Waldner
@kevinreilly79242 жыл бұрын
Neither it’s Forrest Gump damn newbs 😁
@pham10202 жыл бұрын
Ma Long is already the goat for a few years now, but here we're back to this shit argument again. I mentioned before in a similar video in the past that some Waldner fan will never give up even if ML win the 2020 Tokyo and this is it.
@dickn.ormous10642 жыл бұрын
Won all of his medals against the same players Xu Xin/Fan Zhedong and Xu Xin has a ridiculously flawed game that failed him even in doubles(2020 Olympics).
@pham10202 жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 LMAO! I can feel the pain in your words. Keep clinging on your ignorance because Waldner is no longer the goat and the world won't care about your pain.
@tomassantiagomolina5438 Жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 Ma Long is the GOAT of table tennis. Period.
@mdv98312 жыл бұрын
Probably Ma long. Just based on sheer statistical data. Also I'm pretty sure far more people play table tennis now than earlier. Although there is a good argument for Waldner as well
@cindymmm112 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I think Ma Long is better.
@dickn.ormous10642 жыл бұрын
statistical data are pretty irrelevant.Fan Zhedong at 24 yo has better statistics than Ma Long had at the same age.Now that the CNT consists of only 5 members one of them being a lefty who will focus on doubles with hardly any aspirations for single titles it's even easier to dominate.In Waldner's time the CNT consisted of 11 players.
@mdv98312 жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 yeah so? Statistical data is always relevant. We aren't comparing Fan Zhedong and Ma long, we are comparing waldner and Ma Long
@gr637 Жыл бұрын
When I watch table tennis, I don’t watch statistics. I just want to be entertained. Waldner was the best entertainer.
@gr6372 жыл бұрын
Those who think that Ma Long is the greatest are accountants, not artists.
@calmtree65212 жыл бұрын
Those who think waldner is the best are delusional
@gr637 Жыл бұрын
@@calmtree6521 it’s not your fault, you just can’t understand.
@galandjackson8901 Жыл бұрын
@@gr637 ma long is goat 😊
@faker303311 ай бұрын
@@gr637You are in denial
@philou14672 жыл бұрын
Otto and mikka are too strong for Dan, and I bet even Emil gonna beat him in the best of 5 or 7. Emil is below the two other guys because of injuries.
@ericye97622 жыл бұрын
Obviously Ma Long, two circles of grand slams, the greatest player of all time.
@diegoceamaudo2 жыл бұрын
I think miika and otto would win. Not emil. What about adam?
@pingpongprince42562 жыл бұрын
Adam has played Dan and they seem to be at a similar level
@chank.y.65142 жыл бұрын
马龙
@mikelin72 жыл бұрын
Beating him or not, he is entertaining to watch.
@PongsarinChessClub2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree that Waldner is the best!
@always-ask-why2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis and statistics! Another consideration - Ma Long comes from a place that is essentially a ping pong "Top Gun" school. Could Waldner have won more championships if he grew up in China instead of Sweden?
@dickn.ormous10642 жыл бұрын
Waldner is a product of Sweden's sports culture.His role model was Bjorn Borg.China has a totally different approach to sports based on endless drilling and strict pattern training which is why they excell only in technical niche sports like diving,TT etc. Waldner would never have made it under China's system. Besides,he had a penchant for spin which goes totally against China's speed/badminton like approach. Ma Long's numbers are due to the dismissed level of international competition( partly due to the collapse of the USSR,new rules that hurt Koreans penholders etc.) and the focus on the Olympics which come in 4 years cycles.
@micael77732 жыл бұрын
Waldner basically did. The Swedish training camp was extremely tough, they also went to China to specifically train against the pen-technic holding.
@richmondkro2 жыл бұрын
If Waldner was born in China, his playing style would have been different, more robotic like with superior technique but less creativity.
@dickn.ormous10642 жыл бұрын
@@richmondkro Technically Waldner was superior to the Chinese as he could play from all distances.Kong Linghui had the benefit of 10 years of technical progress yet his forehand was nowhere near Waldner. The first Chinese who could compare to Waldner was Zhang Jike.It took them more than than 20 years to catch up with Waldner's comprehensive abilities and I don't think Ma Long does anything better than Waldner.
@olissime012 жыл бұрын
Truth is female do not stand a single chance vs male if the gama starts at 0-0. Here, they started at 8-6 in favor of the female as it was just a dpecific exercise to focus on wet endings. Also, male were not playing their best, such as in real tournament...
@olissime012 жыл бұрын
Set endings, sorry for typo.
@Petr13312 жыл бұрын
@@olissime01 I thought what exactly meant “wet” ending. 🤔 😂
@Petr13312 жыл бұрын
Not even close to real competition speed and effort on men’s side. He plays slow and sometimes misses or does mistakes on purpose. Just a show. It would have to start 0:8 each game, than it might be interresting. 🤔
@EvoGoody2 жыл бұрын
Females regularly beat males in tournament TT. There's no need for same gender tournaments.
@olissime012 жыл бұрын
@@EvoGoody absolute bullshit !
@tj_12602 жыл бұрын
Ok?
@sadikijeje41612 жыл бұрын
Your worst nightmare is Otto, would like to see pocket rocket vs Mikka.Would be an interesting match! But the captain holds water .....He will beat Emil
@ConeDaRagusa2 жыл бұрын
I see Chinese double won this match
@Detherocable2 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame. Emil seemed to be the strongest of Pongfinity until his injury. Just how good was he compared to the other two in his heyday?
@foreigner90122 жыл бұрын
How did he get injured?
@foreigner90122 жыл бұрын
And when?
@Hesselaer7 ай бұрын
Emil was never the strongest, Mikka and Otto are semi-pro and Emil is just a very good amateur. There is a mountain of skill between them
@Mr_Nigeria1002 жыл бұрын
Adam needs space to play and at the place I play at (and many places) there simply isn't the space to lob. I'm a decent amateur player and sure Adam would beat me but he wouldn't destroy me and he'd have to play 100% to beat. He couldn't mess around. The problem I see with the players that play Adam is that they get emotional. They get almost offended by his playing style and try to blast him off the table and that's what Adam loves. He feeds off your energy. This guy at the end gave Adam no energy. He made Adam stay close to the table. He didn't give Adam any free points to build his confidence. Moved him around. Forced Adam to make the attack. He made it look easy. My score was 14-1. That's a demolishing job but he's a very good player and not just that he's a very smart player who didn't get emotional.
@bobycarcarlbob64442 жыл бұрын
Quality content
@bobycarcarlbob64442 жыл бұрын
Quality content
@Alex-vf7jg2 жыл бұрын
3-0
@destory50562 жыл бұрын
both team did well
@TheArmouredOne2 жыл бұрын
Still quite close
@juandtazz2 жыл бұрын
where can i watch the match live?
@marcosguglielmetti2 жыл бұрын
when is the final?
@ytaccount33432 жыл бұрын
the final is at friday the 6 August 2021
@pingpongprince42562 жыл бұрын
It looks like August 6 either 18:30 or 19:30 Japan time depending what site you check.
@kristianaaberg78822 жыл бұрын
At 1:18 Koki did a cross body slap shot. I love this shot, it eorks so well strangely for me.
@j00na232 жыл бұрын
I was so surprised when I saw myself in this video playing against Emil :D
@pingpongprince42562 жыл бұрын
You did great! Since you're in Finland, what would you rank your level and Emil's?
@veronicajennings20912 жыл бұрын
Second
@veronicajennings20912 жыл бұрын
Hi
@marcosguglielmetti2 жыл бұрын
wtf? this is another match...
@pingpongprince42562 жыл бұрын
Explained in the subtitles my guy. Enjoy
@jeffreywang93112 жыл бұрын
@@pingpongprince4256 wtf?
@SternDrive2 жыл бұрын
Japan is the best table tennis players in the world!
@philippelepage16092 жыл бұрын
All dreams are allowed
@taemagniji2 жыл бұрын
accept the truth they lost
@rudolfrendi43672 жыл бұрын
Team Japan from screaming to crying, too excited and arrogant during interview by reporter.
@anverkayser59172 жыл бұрын
It would be competitive if it was the full TTD team, Tom,pocket and the captain. Dan could maybe beat Emil
@marcosguglielmetti2 жыл бұрын
But, anyway, Dimitrij did a better job than FZD, so, it was his best rival.