Yes!.. The protesters were the grandparents of the younger bassoonists on stage, hehe.

In case you aren't joking, this is from a TV show.

BBC's Riot of the Rite

Probably stressed (>>desserts). I imagine you're unaware of what you were asking, so maybe do a search for the meaning of "emordnilap." PS The longest palindromes go on for thousands of words, but don't make much sense.

that's what i heard too

Weber's Bassoon Concerto in F uses a high D, which is only a half-step lower than the highest note in this solo (high E flat) and was written 100 years before the premier of Rite.

@@meganluke444 You're correct, but remember that this is 1913 and although it was part of the bassoon exams at the Paris Conservatory, I'll bet that less than 1 percent of the people in that audience had ever heard the Weber as recording was in its infancy. Also in the Weber it's playing it as a the final note in a short stepwise crescendo, in the Rite it's a long solo passage so people really heard something that they had not experienced before.

And, just for fun, the French Basson has a German-style bocal.

don't be misled by the metal ring. The keywork seems to indicate a german bassoon

@@peterjrmoore3941 you can see the entire bell is like a french bassoon and not just the top, pretty sure it's french.

I would never talk to a composer or conductor like that. You would get fired. I would shut up and play the part the best I could and then hit the practice room. Double reed players? Am I right?!

@@DouglasESmith-fu7di Exactly what I was thinking! I could never imagine complaining about the fingering being "too difficult." The composer/conductor would have every right to kick my butt outta there and find someone else to do it. (That reminds me of an incident when I was in grad school--I was playing bass clarinet in Wind Ensemble and one section had some high D's, which can be challenging on that horn. The conductor noticed that they weren't coming out as loud as he wanted them too, so--in front of the entire ensemble--he suggested to me that I take that part down an octave. I replied, "Well, then it wouldn't be any fun!" He laughed along with the rest of the group and I eventually got the D's to where they needed to be.

*ackchually*

It’s TV show attempting to drum up drama where there was none. The idea of an artist frustrated by his contemporaries’ inability to grasp his genius makes great television but bad history. Indeed, it’s suspected that the riots at the premier had to do with the dancing, not the music.

@@magicaltour1 Yes, the music on its own was very well-received exactly one year later - it was a triumph for Stravinsky.

Hilarious! I will forever remember this

No Cor Anglais because Stravinsky wanted to mimic to instrument of indigenous people.

@@user-zs9sw6cx4p lol. That....or because he thought doing things the hard way was part of art. Or so he said. Awkward is good.

We always sang it as "I'm not an English horn, I'm not an English horn, this is too high for me, I'm only a bassoon"

@@GFH-rp8or LOL. Which school? Mine was Eastman

Edit Piaf wurde erst 1915 geboren. Wer hat von wem sich inspirieren lassen ?

The description says it's a BBC movie from 2005

What do you mean, this was recorded live 1913

@@TheSteakStyles I apologise for my mistake

@@mrbenoit5018 no worries friend. very easy mistake

@@mrbenoit5018 it's OK friend, it's an easy mistake to make

And yet Saint-Saëns wrote even higher notes in his bassoon sonata

cute, but not true.

Saint-Saëns wasn't at the premiere...

@@willmorris8198Indeed, as did all French composers of the time writing contest pieces for the Conservatoire.

Isn’t it nice when people concoct stories, then post them as truths?

Yes and the info about the film is in the description box for this video.

It was from a television presentation on the BBC called "Riot at the Rite". The production values were exceptionally good, as were all the performances. If you can get hold of a copy I can heartily recommend it

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why would an english horn struggle with that!

Can you tell us the source?

Following. This doesn't sound right. @@AndreyRubtsovRU

Source: your ass

@@ryankennedy3109 agreed I really don’t see how it would be so hard for an English horn. Also the English horn is in a different key, did he just rewrite the part on the spot?

There are also video cameras filming apparently

the idiots used actors instead of the actual people that were responsible for the premiere

My thought exactly. And the fingerings are different so that high range is not so awkward .

Yeah fingerings for the highest notes on the French bassoon are easier than on the German bassoon 👍🏻👍🏻

It would not have been a problem, as shown here. French bassoon music of the time and earlier regularly went a full tone higher than the high D of this solo.

Weber wrote high D’s in his concerto more than a century before this was written. The distinction between German and French bassoon systems didn’t really happen until later in the 19th century.

I've got to wonder if Stravinsky new the difference between French and German bassoons at the time. Anybody know what was the prevailing instrument in St. Petersburg back then? I don't remember his teacher, Rimsky-Korsakov, making a distinction in his orchestration book. The one thing I would be surprised by would be if Stravinsky wasn't expecting it to sound strained, awkward, possibly even a broken sound. I suppose a modern equivalent would be whether Ferneyhough expects everything to sound graceful or not.

😅😂

Yes, thoroughly enjoyed the film! Marie Rambert's diplomacy indeed comes off as inspirational. The bassoonist (as represented in the move) seems to have solved the fingering dilemma in the performance at @48:04. Though the bassoon of 1913 might have had a few less keys than its modern counterpart, the difficulty in the solo probably had more to do with the newness of expressfully controlling these uppermost notes of the register. Their reeds and bocals probably weren't ideally set up for this.

...offer a finger (ing suggestion). Yes, that's clearer. @@JayBassoon