Crying shame over here in Australia - only 50 cars (alot for Ariel I suppose) have been commissioned for our market and we don't get the mad buggy Nomad at all 😢
@krisjohnston30265 ай бұрын
I am just away to put an order in for a 4 at the end of the month, after being on the waiting list for 2 1/2 years. Just picking the specification now. £600 for sides is very steep for a bit of Perspex, but I think I will need them living in Scotland and I what to get good use out of the car. Can you recommend them? Would you do it your self again? Would you still have the template you could sell me, to give me a rough starting point for making them? Great detail in the video. 👍
@sl0w_racer5 ай бұрын
Congrats on finally getting a build slot that is about to come up! exciting times ahead. Yes I would definitely make my own again. I prefer acrylic and not polycarbonate that Ariel uses. Polycarbonate while more supple and less likely to crack it scratches very easily and over time looks awful. Also Ariel charge an arm and a leg for them. Materials for mine were £60 if I remember correctly. If you are handy with tools and making things you'll knock these out in no time and with ease. I do have a template, the holes will be different very slightly given they are hand made cars not every car is identical. Yes I 100% recommend them, although I would not pay £600 for them though! The biggest benefit is mostly on track as it keeps the wind out. Over a day of track driving the wind actually gets bothersome and tiresome. With these on it makes it so much more comfortable and I think the car looks better with them on as well.
@krisjohnston30265 ай бұрын
Yeah it feels like I have been waiting forever, but I am almost there. Thanks, I think I will definitely have a go myself. If you don’t mind sharing I would like a paper copy of your template as it might give me a better starting point, if that’s ok. How much would you like for a copy? Or is it easy enough just to trances it from the car.
@sl0w_racer5 ай бұрын
@@krisjohnston3026 I can send you a paper copy no problem. Email me: simon <at> simonrhart.com it's not easy to trace it from the car at all. This is the hard part.
@krisjohnston30265 ай бұрын
Thanks for your help I have sent you a email.
@slcsystems7 ай бұрын
I laughed when the Aston went by,yep you thought you had a head turning car pal, well welcome to the Ariel Atom.
@sl0w_racer7 ай бұрын
Exactly. A Valkyrie going past would get some interest for sure.
@ccgillett7 ай бұрын
'ello Crofty! The Atom is looking particularly stunning on the grid today..... 🙂
@fishbigfishchris10 ай бұрын
You are lucky you get all these options. I have one on order in the USA and there are about 5 options total 😢.
@sl0w_racer10 ай бұрын
Aren't the options grouped over in the US though?
@MichaelMontez Жыл бұрын
I have a tilton set up as well and today I tried to adjust the using the brake bias knob and it is only wanting to rotate one way. Not sure what is wrong yet. Your set up is much easier to see than mine
@yoursoundvibes Жыл бұрын
can you drive it on the street with que sequential??
@sl0w_racer10 ай бұрын
Yes, it's fine on the street with the seq
@user-wf2wi5wc2k Жыл бұрын
Sooooooooo......
@sl0w_racer10 ай бұрын
?
@user-wf2wi5wc2k10 ай бұрын
What have you replaced it with!? My Atom is on order and I've enjoyed watching all your videos...been waiting for the big reveal!
@sl0w_racer10 ай бұрын
@@user-wf2wi5wc2k ah yes, I am currently relocating to another country so my car purchase has been on the back burner for at least the next 12 months. Great you have an Atom on order, I loved mine, it was such a great ownership experience, especially on track, enjoy it, I know you will!!
@chrislees7873 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Really useful video thanks. What make are the spacers and where can i get some? Ive looked at Tilton & can’t find any. Thanks.
@sl0w_racer Жыл бұрын
They are spacers from Ariel. I don't think they are Tilton branded items. Contact the parts department at Ariel and they will sort you out.
@chrislees7873 Жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer Thank you. I will call them 😊
@benjones4238 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the yellow decals and tow straps from?
@sl0w_racer Жыл бұрын
I made them. The tow straps were martini racing sparco jobbies.
@benjones4238 Жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer hi who made your side panels in the later video? And i don't suppose you have a template? Thanks
@sl0w_racer Жыл бұрын
@@benjones4238 I made them as well from acrylic because acrylic is harder. Yes I have a template, I lent it out to Mark (Luckky) but not yet had it back. If you are in the UK you are welcome to use it
@benjones4238 Жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer hi that would be great we have a ariel atom 4 whats app group and someone was on about getting a template etc then i remember you made some with a tint on also
@sl0w_racer Жыл бұрын
@@benjones4238 I did a youtube video on how to make them as well
@tacotuesday4496 Жыл бұрын
thats awesome!
@tacotuesday4496 Жыл бұрын
very informative ty for this!
@user-wf2wi5wc2k Жыл бұрын
Upgraded gearshift cable bushings are now on the options list. Definitely a box I'm ticking!
@twarken50782 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update and explanation as to why in the video and comments section. May I ask what you ended up purchasing as a replacement?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
I am still looking for my replacement. I am also changing my daily so having a bit of a car shake down. I am looking at a variety of cars. Originally a Radical SR8 but that is off my list now. A Juno, SR3 and a SR10 if and when they depreciate so I may wait for those cars to become more affordable. At this moment they still cost over £100k
@Cobra83.2 жыл бұрын
I think for me I'd have the side panels and full size windscreen. Just think it would make it a nicer road car tbh
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Some people do have the windscreen, not my cup 'o tea though and I used it mainly as a track car so the windscreen would then act as a big wind brake
@martinharradine98892 жыл бұрын
Superb and very informative video - thank you sir…
@M4rkmcc212 жыл бұрын
where did you get the gold flag stickers for the rear wing? looks lovely. thanks
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! I made them from 1.5mm vinyl sheet a local print company matched for me against the Ohlins. I have since sold this car and the new owner removed them. They are not to everyone's taste but this is the benefit of vinyl you can just take it off when you want
@M4rkmcc212 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer thanks for the reply. I used to custom cut vinyl for my motorbikes. Just nice little subtle touches. I just found u on Instagram so been admiring your pics and sent a few questions your way. Cheers
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
@@M4rkmcc21 Yes I like to use vinyl too, it makes the car more personal. No worries happy to answer questions if I can
@M4rkmcc212 жыл бұрын
what is the red carpet you have installed on the cars floor?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
I made the carpet too! lol. It's pretty easy, I made it from felt carpet the same type used to make entertainment systems in cars and vans. You can get this from anywhere ebay is the best place. Glued this to 3mm rubber cut to fit inside the Atom and then fixed using velcro large round tabs stuck to the floor of the car so it can be easilly removed if not wanted or to change colour which I did do to yellow. If you don't protect the tub it scratches very easily from stones stuck to shoes when on track
@mrnobody98212 жыл бұрын
Such a shame, I sold my car in 2018 and told myself if I buy another vehicle on 4 wheels it will be an Atom.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
The Atom is a great car, but you soon grow out of it and want more performance on track. A lot of people say the car is more capable than me, but if you do enough laps you can't get the car to go any faster due to grip limitations.
@leespencer37362 жыл бұрын
Hi can I ask what you sold it for? It had a great spec with the ohlins and the wings.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Of course you can ask, I sold it for £75k, the buyer tried to knock me down a little bit but I wasn't having any of it! lol be careful if you want a used one, there are many way overpriced Atoms out there looking to make considerable gains. My recommendation would be to get the spec sheet from Ariel with prices and spec the car as you want to give you an idea what it should cost whether you want new or used.
@samyb28342 жыл бұрын
Why you didn't enjoy it on the road?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
It's a track car mostly so too fast for the road, people don't see you coming, the attention it gets is borderline annoying eventually, and the worst bit is there is just too much traffic on the road today to really enjoy it's performance or anywhere near it in a safe way. If you like just pottering around cruising then it's fine, but I don't personally. On the track though I LOVED it, huge amount of fun I couldn't get enough of it every track day was so much fun even then you get held up on track though lol. So I decided to buy a proper race car instead which is even faster and more fun, which is what I wanted. On the road tough you are better off with a superbike imo at least then you can overtake in a safer way.
@samyb28342 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer Thank you!
@Xorue2 жыл бұрын
What was the reason the police pulled you?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Illegal front and rear number plates. (no front plate) £200 fine
@K33n32 жыл бұрын
Naaaaaaarich.
@juraganlas26372 жыл бұрын
how much does Ariel Atom cost?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
It varies depending on spec, how well the car is looked after and the version you go for. You can pay £30,000 for a 15yr old Atom 2 with 30000 miles on it or close to £100,000 for a fully loaded Atom 4
@mdesignfashion6972 жыл бұрын
how much does one unit cost?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
It varies depending on the option
@salahdehina97332 жыл бұрын
So how much extra do these options cost? And how do Carbon wheels cost extra? Because this is more or less how I'd spec mine.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
There are too many options to list all the prices. Ariel has the price list in an Excel sheet. The carbon wheels cost £10,000 so are not cheap at all.
@salahdehina97332 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer I know that saving weight on the wheels should make a really noticeable difference since it's unsprung mass, so they can't be cheap, but £10,000 is a bit much.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
@@salahdehina9733 in my opinion they are not cost effective. You are better going for magnesium or forged wheels instead
@TimArnold_dk2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your great Atom 4 information. Also the bit about the racing series was well appreciated.
@Leshic22 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your adventures with us. You've been very generous. Good luck with your future driving choice.
@alyoungwerth99082 жыл бұрын
Would love to chat with you about the Atom 4, thinking about adding one as a dedicated track car. I'll have a look through your videos, this is the first one I saw. I have an SR3 that is fantastic and only a little temperamental but somewhat expensive per hour on the track. I have a K24-swapped Exocet which was my attempt at a cheap Atom and it is neither cheap nor an Atom; it will be for sale soon. The Atom is appealing to me because it would appear to have low cost per hour on the track, is crazy powerful and appears to have nice handling characteristics. Also seems to be reliable. I put a lot of hours on the track and really enjoy a car that I can just get in and drive fast. I have never driven and SR8 or SR10 but have friends with them. The SR8 sounds wonderful but is crazy expensive per hour. The people I've talked to with the SR10s have either said they're too fast or crashed them going too fast. Many of my friends with Wolfs have gone back to SR3s, they say more fun to drive and less expensive than the Wolf per hour.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
The Atom 4 is an amazing car to own but it's a road car that you can take on the track, it's not a race car and it's far from cheap. Even though it doesn't eat through pads or disks it eats rear tyres. If I wanted to get more performance from my car (slicks + seq gearbox with paddles for example) it would have cost me another £20k. This would then of made my car very close to being worth £100k. For £100k you can get some pretty serious race cars. The Atom's appeal is fun, it's not a car for setting lap times so your SR3 even though it has way less power will be much quicker over a lap so it depends on what you are after. I want to go a lot faster which is why I sold mine and I want to race it eventually. If looking at Atoms, the Atom 4 runs a Honda K20c1 engine which is known for overheating so you will need to fix this. The older cars run a K20 either 2.0 or the 2.4 variant these can have a supercharger and as far as I am aware suffer less with overheating due to it not being a turbo I guess. Interesting comments regarding the SR10 being crashed and too fast. I know it runs Silverstone in a 1m.52s some almost 40s quicker than an Atom. I know it runs nice a cool too even when being thrashed on track as I have seen the telemetry. It seems to stay around 82degrees c coolant, oil around 100 degree c. Is an SR10 quicker than the SR8? I don't mind so much running costs, I want something I will enjoy and can extract the most performance from and learn to grow into it and is mega fast. The Atom is fast but you quickly reach it's potential and limit which is the mechanical grip as it has no real aero to speak of.
@AJzilllaPro10 ай бұрын
@@sl0w_racerwhat race cars can you get for 100k .Thanks! Great video! Hopefully I can get something like this when I’m older.
@KBE872 жыл бұрын
So sad to see it go. It was a real joy watching your videos, cheers for that! Hope your new car will give you what you missed in the Atom.
@edwemail85082 жыл бұрын
Didn't see this coming. Thanks for the tech content. Good luck.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks glad you liked it. Nor did I! but I never planned to keep it long. You soon learn it's capabilities on track and reach it's full potential then want more. Ariel doesn't offer any more performance so I need to try something else - a car with downforce
@CybrZone2 жыл бұрын
Great video, do you mind if I ask what you do to afford it?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Similar to what you do by the looks of it, software engineer
@edwemail85082 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you for posting your results.
@davidrosen92912 жыл бұрын
A bit rambling
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@juraganlas26372 жыл бұрын
how much is the tire ring boss
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by tire ring?
@juraganlas26372 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer I'm from Indonesia, I want to make a replica of it
@juraganlas26372 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer I mean tire size?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
@@juraganlas2637 rear is 255/40 R17 fronts 195/50 R16
@juraganlas26372 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer ok bro, thank you, and how much is the dollar price there?
@juraganlas26372 жыл бұрын
nice car, i will make a replica
@99919062 жыл бұрын
i like the stickers on the rear wing
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it took me a long time to make them
@steveact21652 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I am a french guy who tries to order an Atom and you helps me a lot.
@benitofalazi8228 Жыл бұрын
As-tu passé commande depuis ton commentaire ?
@Leshic22 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of "music" CDs that were being sold in the late 90s, or early 2000s... You could get F1 sound mix, Indy car sounds, and mix racing pack with Porsche, turbos, Le Mans.. I personally loved the Porsche, turbo, Le Mans sounds... My favorite track was the exhaust sound of the Mercedes GT1(version Webber flipped at LeMans) doing laps around Laguna Seca.. I would set it to repeat and listen (in my car) for days... The sounds of your Atom 4 remind me of the Porsche turbo sounds from LeMans.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like heaven that only a petrol head would understand! I never knew about these CD's
@teddyruxpin38112 жыл бұрын
I know there aren't a lot of subscribers to your channel but I want you to know you are doing a great service to a few people who own Atoms or are in the market to buy an Atom. keep it up please
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate for your kinds words. I do these videos as I enjoy creating knowledge and interesting content (hopefully) about these awesome cars. My car is up for sale now as I intend to go racing next year or the year after so will be getting a pure race car.
@benjones42382 жыл бұрын
When will we see the finished results?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, I show the finished results at the end of the video with some pictures fitted to the car. I am very pleased with how they turned out tbh. Even now when I clean the car they look really great and they are so effective too.
@benjones42382 жыл бұрын
aww yeh sorry now Ive watched it back I've just caught it 👍🏻 whats next for the atom?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
@@benjones4238 Oil cooler install. I was waiting until track season is over before I fit it as I want to test it on the road first.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
@@benjones4238 Also I will be fitting slick tyres from Yokohama over the next couple on months ready for spring
@jasonalbert5302 жыл бұрын
What's the rough maintenance cost per year to own an A4?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Not a great deal tbh. Ariel service @ £500 then I change the oil and filter every 3 track days. Each oil change is about £120 for oil + £20 for a high performance oil filter. You won't get through brake pads and discs on this car. Tyres is the only other expensive consumable depending on what tyres you go for. I get through a lot of rear tyres as you can expect.
@MatteoPolpi2 жыл бұрын
I know that’s not completely related to that, but you know some companies that rent the Atom for trackdays in Europe? The only one in Italy got rid of the Atom 2 a while ago unfortunately… I’d like to try one in the meanwhile, at the moment I cannot afford it yet :P
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
I actually don't know mate. Not even sure you can hire Atoms in the UK. This is something that would be great like Caterham offer.
@markmawer2 жыл бұрын
Ingliston supercars used to have them as part of their rota for supercar experience days but they had so many problems with folk driving them dangerously putting themselves, the instructor and others at risk that they now only have them for passenger rides. You can drive a 458 or a Huracan or an 800bhp GTR at Knockhill with them but not one of their Atoms. That says a lot about the performance and relative difficulty of driving one compared to other modern supercars.
@rgray83z2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid thanks. How much did you pay for the PPF if you don’t mind me asking?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
About £1200 for the car - this included a detail, chassis polish, mud guard polish and all the ppf. The wings cost that again - just because it's expensive PPF - Xpel stuff and there is so much ppf material on the wings as every bit of carbon is covered. Not cheap but the car looks new even though I have had it on track 5 times
@anthonymiller81222 жыл бұрын
Incredible spec. Looks amazing. Very envious 😁
@Leshic22 жыл бұрын
I just finished commenting on Part 1, and was about to edit it and add that you should (if you can) test the results, before and after. When it comes to tuning cars for power, handling, cooling, OFTEN the theoretical doesn't line up with actual and adjustments need to be made. However, looking at this video, I can see you know that already! Outstanding job in your analysis!! Yes, taking it out on the track and doing an on/off analysis with the front wing area tune, would be helpful. Watching the rest of the video, this is outstanding data!! Outstanding! I'm sure you'll agree with me when I say that I wish all car tuning part manufacturers, showed data like this. I need to see the data!
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insightful comments, much appreciated. Yes I do these videos because I think others learn from them and I do too. Yes I agree manufacturers of anything should provide data not just claims of "more power" or "better performance" no matter what it is.
@Leshic22 жыл бұрын
Interesting.. Lover that you're making these and explaining through it. Few comments (had to stop the video, to get them in before I forget). 1. Your engine is starting to look like the McLaren F1 BMW engine bay! Ha.. For several years, I worked in R&D for chip making machinery. We would vaporize a liquid and deliver the vapor to a chamber where it's sprayed onto a disk full of new chips. The temperature control for delivering the vapor to the disk, and the temperature of the disk and across the disk, is very very precise. Poor temperatures cause the vapor to change back into a solid and cake up the lines or other areas, as well as it won't deposit the material uniformly across the disk, causing functional chip performance differences if the chip was in the center vs edge of the disk... Anyways, my point being is, when in comes to insulation, rough placement helps, but take care of the details and the result suddenly are logarithmic. Sealing that last 5% -10% makes a big difference. Imagine you're wearing a jacket in really cold and windy weather. You will notice a very big difference in insulation when you close up the last few holes in your sleeves and neck. 2. Thermostat for the oil cooler. You probably already realized that when you change your oil at room temperature, the valve will be close to the oil cooler, so you'll never drain the oil from it.. Maybe there's a way to short it, or apply power to it, to force it open? 3. I'm no expert and airflow, but it's clear that airflow around the engine, before the oil cooler, is very turbulent... I predict that the air will simply deflect off the oil cooler fins and flow AROUND the oil cooler.. I think it would be helpful if you're able to add a fan on the exhaust side of the cooler and either a pusher fan on the inlet side, or create "cup" or "box" on the inlet side. Walls on all 4 sides that "capture" the air and prevent spill-over, around the cooler. Having written all that, perhaps an inlet fan is a better idea and simpler. You could give it it's own switch on the dash or tie it to something else to automatically turn it on. 4. Great thinking at the front to divert air flow. Yes, that will make a difference.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your insightful comments, much appreciated and certainly food for thought. Regarding the drain plug for the oil cooler. The Setrab oil cooler version that I have is a motorsport cooler and they chose not to include a drain plug. The reason after research on this is because that is another potential failure point, so they chose to have reliability over ease of emptying it. Ariel suggested I do not remove the unions when changing oil, eventually all the oil will be recycled and changed over time. The reason being is loosening the unions frequently will potentially introduce a failure point and eventually fatigue the Goodrich unions ultimately causing leaks. I change oil very frequently on this car. It's only done 3000 miles and has had 4 oil changes in this time. It's a very interesting point regarding placement of the oil cooler. This is in part one of the reasons it's taking me a long time to fit it, not to mention I want to test in iterations to see the results rather than a big bang approach. Big bang approaches tend to obfuscate any benefits and make reading the data difficult. My plan is to install under the engine cover vent, test. Then if I am not getting satisfactory results I will create an airduct from the engine cover mount down to the cooler for help with airflow.. Furthermore, adding a fan will be my last solution. Because the oil cooler will add additional capacity of oil to the car, this alone will aid cooling and enable the oil to run cooler simply by adding 20% more engine oil capacity because it's a 1ltr oil cooler. I will calculate all this once I know temps of oil as right now I have no way of knowing the temperature of oil with a NPT sender installed.
@CharlesM5052 жыл бұрын
As someone waiting for an A4, I find these videos very interesting so thanks for making them! It is however a shame that what comes out from the factory seems to suffer on a warm UK day on track. Should be up to the task without need for this and/or extra radiators etc.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
It depends how you drive the car tbh whether you will see a build up of heat or not. The earlier cars got hot too with the supercharger it's just very few people have done anything about it that I know of or even measured everything. It's not until you start looking into all the sensor readings and data you start to understand what is going on and how to improve these things. Have you spec'ed the sports rad and sports core intercooler? These are the only two cooling options Ariel sell today.
@CharlesM5052 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer Very true, the data doesn’t lie! I was going to spec the Sports Radiator, differences I took away after a chat with the factory were: 1) it’s larger 2) continues to circulate once car is shut down. It would be interesting to find out how much this remedies the chance of overheating and boost being cut as you mentioned on a warm track day. I did wonder if it’s more a case of getting enough air through the front opening to the radiator vs the radiator size itself? Still, great to hear the differences from what you have done, pretty remarkable infact!
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesM505 The recirculating the coolant will save you from having to do many cool down laps on track hence help slow heat soak when you come into the pits. How is it larger? There is no space for it to be. Maybe they have more cores and hence more fins. It's still a downflow rad though. I would prefer a cross flow. I just last night uploaded a video with my testing results so far. One test shows very minimal front wing air duct testing to force more airflow through the rad, but it all looks very positive. More testing is needed here.
@TimArnold_dk2 жыл бұрын
Really great work. Obviously I'll be doing these mods!
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Check out the results vid - part 2 if you haven't already
@tcroft21652 жыл бұрын
Did you consider ceramic coating for heat shielding?
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
Yes I considered it and spoke with Zircotec and a couple others. I concluded the reduction in temps were not enough to go through with it and they advised me not to wrap/heat blanket AND ceramic coat because the wrap can wear the ceramic coat away prematurely. They quoted me a 33% reduction in heat. So if we look at the reductions I am seeing now on my exhaust system (not downpipe) it has a peak temp of around 110-120 degrees celsius. After with the DEI Form A shield I am seeing temps of around 30-40 degree c. That is a ~64-72% reduction in heat and all that heat soaks into the manifold, the sump and the engine - coolant lines etc. So it's much more effective and much cheaper than ceramic coating. It's nasty stuff to work with though. I will probably get the std muffler ceramic coated a gold yellow over the winter that said. When I post up my sensor readings you will see the impact this has on the engine.
@tcroft21652 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer Interesting. I'd have assumed the ceramic would give greater heat reductions than that given how popular it is in motorsports.
@sl0w_racer2 жыл бұрын
@@tcroft2165 Most motorsports use a process called hard lagged which is similar to the DEI A shield except it's permanent or they wrap because both are a lot more effective than ceramic coating. Do you follow the chap in the US with the orange Ultima RS? he has a lovely car and he had his exhaust manifold ceramic coated first but later found it didn't reduce temps enough for his car. So he used a traditional wrap in the end, looks like a titanium one. instagram.com/p/CUIr_j2lo2s/
@tcroft21652 жыл бұрын
@@sl0w_racer I'll look him up. I'm not an instagrammer!