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@markhedman1884
@markhedman1884 4 сағат бұрын
Thanks for this good analysis. Although I can't say that I have listened all of his early recordings (there are many), my impression is that he played in a fast and flashy manner, and didn't miss many notes, but could be superficial; that in his mid-career, his playing had more depth and maturity; and in his old age, his playing could be slower (perhaps the Chopin Nocturnes) . But compared to his early recordings, the later recordings can also be bland and boring, perhaps because he was being careful about making mistakes, and didn't want to take extra time fixing them. I have a boxed set of concertos played by him, and although I enjoyed listening to them, now in hindsight, they seem generic. The live performances on KZfaq are outstanding, and give the best impression of his playing, and are a testament to career achievement in old age. I just read now a 1975 article by Harold Schonberg, and he discounts the notion, based on listening to early recordings, that Rubinstein lacked technique or hit many wrong notes.
@jasonhuddleston2720
@jasonhuddleston2720 7 сағат бұрын
Another great video. Thank you. ❤
@pedrocoelho6935
@pedrocoelho6935 7 сағат бұрын
It's amazing how you turn pieces virtually impossible to be played by begginers into accessible beautifull pieces that sound even better than at the original tempo. Great work and thanks a lot for sharing it. This is, for sure, the piano related video that I watched the most.
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 6 сағат бұрын
Thank you very much!
@rolanambrocio7434
@rolanambrocio7434 8 сағат бұрын
I wonder if these steps are applicable to left hard arpeggio where fingerings are different
@antoniovisioli4460
@antoniovisioli4460 9 сағат бұрын
Forse chi tutti coloro che seguono il canale si rendono conto del livello altissimo dell'insegnamento e della tua qualità pianistica. Grazie!!
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 18 сағат бұрын
Wrong notes are momentary, a bad performance is seemingly never ending. I don’t mind wrong notes in those performances one bit - don’t even think about it twice.
@greatmusicchannel8549
@greatmusicchannel8549 19 сағат бұрын
Hello Denis, Could you make video on about Chopin Op 10!Complete etudes?
@thepianocornertpc
@thepianocornertpc 19 сағат бұрын
The title should be: Wrong Notes Don't Matter(if you're Vladimir Horowitz) . The real champion of wrong notes. I heard Rubinstein live at age 89 in Chopin's Second Piano Concerto. Not a single wrong note! And Denis, you know how difficult that Concerto is. Btw, love your channel. Very professional.Bravo.
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 18 сағат бұрын
Whenever one dares to say that Horowitz wasn’t perfect, there is an army of offended fans attacking, pointing on his videos where he plays half of the notes but claiming that nobody ever did better🤣 Apparently, Horowitz was a great artist, but even a better hypnotizer.
@thepianocornertpc
@thepianocornertpc 15 сағат бұрын
@@DenZhdanovPianist The combination of his shrewd mind and the naive "hype culture" in the US worked well for him. Rubinstein didn't need all of these tricks and histrionics. He was simply a great Master and an Aristocrat.
@cooltrades7469
@cooltrades7469 22 сағат бұрын
He said himself '' sometimes I play superb and people are ok with it ,,,but than I play so many wrong notes it's like writing another concerto and people are WOOOW ''....he was for sure one of a kind . And his memoires are absolutely brilliant ,as the person . And he was really playing awsome when he was at his worst . What a genius . And a bon viveur . In an interview he was also remembering his youth in Paris with Picasso and Enesco saying that '' my youth was wine , women and song ...in this order ;-))) . I think that he was one of the few who balanced his inner and personal life and that made a difference . It's not only about fingers and bla bla . Let's not forget that Horowitz had a decade of not playing due to depression .
@danielliang9266
@danielliang9266 22 сағат бұрын
I read in a book by Tobias Matthay about what he calls the "3 species of Touch": 1. Finger alone exerted against key, combined with loose-lying hand, and self-supported arm. 2. Hand exerted "behind" finger, with self-supported arm. 3. Arm-weight lapsed afresh behind hand and finger for each note. How do I incorporate what you said about the elbow in this?
@markus7894
@markus7894 Күн бұрын
I love your example with the Debussy prelude! I was really hit by how Odysseus gave deepness to this line!! Rubinstein is the somnambule security of musical expression with the absolute manual liberty of a lion! I love him forever. Great video! Please continue!!
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@poplarboydavid
@poplarboydavid Күн бұрын
What piano are you playing? It sounds beautiful!
@shubus
@shubus Күн бұрын
Greatly appreciate this analysis into Rubinstein's technique. I have seen his videos for years but only recently have able to understand what I was seeing. This video crystallizes a whole lot of things in my mind.
@charmquark6366
@charmquark6366 Күн бұрын
Maestro Rubinstein must have led a life filled with great passion and, most of all, curiosity! He must have compared spending another 100 hours at the piano to visiting places and meeting people. The 100 hours may have prevented a few wrong notes but would have sucked the life out of his music! I grew up listening to 80% Rubinstein’s Chopin and 20% others. His phrasing and tone is what I recall immediately when I flip through the pages of Chopin’s music. The rubato, the sense of rhythm, the drive, the poetry… I am not old enough to have seen him live. I didn’t know he sat like that and used his hands like that. Seeing them on YT has been a huge revelation. The anecdotes I heard from my professors and teachers suddenly made so much sense, too. Hearing Denis’s analysis of the mechanics made me want to apply it today. Thank you for another superb video! The quality of the content is peerless!
@jasonhuddleston2720
@jasonhuddleston2720 Күн бұрын
I have never heard anyone credible say that Martha’s playing is sloppy or careless. The rest of the video is right IMO.
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist Күн бұрын
I didn’t say that either.
@jasonhuddleston2720
@jasonhuddleston2720 21 сағат бұрын
@@DenZhdanovPianist You said that others think that. Not trying to argue. I love your videos but I disagree with that. Which is ok.
@bobbygadourymusic5476
@bobbygadourymusic5476 Күн бұрын
Great video. Thanks, Denis!
@1389Chopin
@1389Chopin Күн бұрын
Not only innate technique - but hand size and more specifically the ratio of finger length to palm size i think, matters. Some of these techniques are just not possible with smaller than average hand size or shorter fingers Normalized hand and finger length allow you to play above the keys instead of the edges, making less tension If i win the lottery i would like to do the definitive study on this to see If any of my hypothesis are true
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist Күн бұрын
Sure, people with smaller hands have to adjust and are more prone to tension issues.
@kathleencook3060
@kathleencook3060 Күн бұрын
I was always told: "Two geniuses should never compared". Enjoy them both for their brilliance. I still live by that.
@CHRISTIAN-gi9yl
@CHRISTIAN-gi9yl Күн бұрын
Grazie per il tuo prezioso video
@jonathanbradley8698
@jonathanbradley8698 Күн бұрын
Very interesting video, Denis. And a timely reminder about putting things in perspective - I’m sure Rubinstein would have agreed with you!
@rachm06
@rachm06 2 күн бұрын
around 6:20 reminds me some principles of Gyorgy Sandor's technique
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist Күн бұрын
Sure, all good approaches have something in common despite all the differences
@Capwnql
@Capwnql 2 күн бұрын
Wow, I didn't know you resided in Graz and even teach there - what a coincidence! That's close to KLG, where I'm studying jazz piano right now. I'm also thinking of applying for the classical piano program in the next year and I have to admit that your videos and shared knowledge on correct technique have helped me on many occasions. Would love to take a lesson sometime in-person. Again, thank you for these videos! :)
@DavidMiller-bp7et
@DavidMiller-bp7et 2 күн бұрын
I'm out of town; will comment in more detail when I get home. Your vids have gone from brilliance to super-value teaching brilliance. Lots here for sound, advanved technical considerations. Your lessons are perfect for what wr need. Love your stuff.
@antoniovisioli4460
@antoniovisioli4460 2 күн бұрын
Il valore didattico è altissimo, ma jon posso non ascoltare anche il tuo pianismo straordinario:suono meraviglioso, musicalità da grande interprete , personalità...Semplicemente fantastico.
@antoniovisioli4460
@antoniovisioli4460 2 күн бұрын
Fantastico! Con i tuoi suggerimenti ho risolto problemi che avevo da anni. Grazie di cuore!!!
@Samuri_Jack_Enjoyer
@Samuri_Jack_Enjoyer 2 күн бұрын
I love these videos. Would you ever consider doing one on Ivo Pogorelich's technique?
@Vortragskunst
@Vortragskunst 2 күн бұрын
Sorry, but the spirit of this transcription seems to me to be against Buxtehude. I think, he would hate all this sentiment and affectation!
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 2 күн бұрын
One thing I learned from my bitter awkward social experience - never assume what other musicians would like or hate!😉
@homamellersh8446
@homamellersh8446 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for a very interesting video . When it comes to playing the wrong note ( notes) I call it improvisation 😅 .
@ananthd4797
@ananthd4797 2 күн бұрын
This is such a wonderful video, Denis! I'm still waiting on the Cziffra one, lol. I have heard some argue that the old masters like Rubinstein really had the most efficient, ergonomic piano technique which over passing decades has since been kind of lost. When you look at most of those players, you see extremely efficient playing, perhaps even more than what you would see from competition winners nowadays. While the average level of instruction has gone up, it may well be that the very best teachers of the early 20th century were better than modern ones. Or do you think that the technique developed by such pianists is in some sense "innate", despite teaching rather than because of it?
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 2 күн бұрын
There are tons of fantastic players around, but we overlook them falling into idealization of the mysteriousness of the famous musicians, thus assuming that there is no one to match Rubinstein or Horowitz or else. One of the most sobering and painful stages of development is understanding how difficult it is to avoid the bias of big and small names. In reality, there are hundreds of pianists who are as good or better in both technical and interpretational aspects. Following this trend, this particular format works so much better, because when I say how to play, so few people actually watch it, since I am (frankly speaking) nobody. But when I say the same damn thing “look, this is what Rubinstein or Argerich is doing” - all of a sudden I get 10 times more views and everyone’s excitement.
@Samuri_Jack_Enjoyer
@Samuri_Jack_Enjoyer 2 күн бұрын
​@@DenZhdanovPianist I think if you post more of your own playing, people will see how you implement your technique into the making of music. People want to know what Martha Argerich is doing technically because we admire her playing. If we get to see more of your interpretations, then more will know what a great musician you are and will want to learn from you.
@ananthd4797
@ananthd4797 2 күн бұрын
@@DenZhdanovPianist Now that I think about it, maybe the pianos are also at fault, nowadays they seem to have less of a singing tone, especially compared to old European makes. Interesting perspective, could you point me to a performance of someone relatively unknown who is pretty much as good as say Argerich? I've tried to test this by finding recordings of random pianists, but they are usually quite a bit worse. But that might be biasing my perception. And I totally feel you on getting views on KZfaq. Another possible reason may be because people use those search terms, "Martha Argerich", etc. and your video might pop up if they are already following you. I have watched most of your technique videos, but I can see why they would only attract a niche audience.
@hlopkloiop
@hlopkloiop 2 күн бұрын
That was a masterclass of the highest degree, bravo sir!
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 2 күн бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@derycktrahair8108
@derycktrahair8108 2 күн бұрын
We play for people. They know that no one is perfect & that anything can go wrong. They appreciate your humanity & that you're sharing an experience. They can spot a Show-off, but love those who are sincere. Thank you for a thought provoking video
@rudyagresta
@rudyagresta 2 күн бұрын
Excellent video and analysis, thank you!
@eddieandmaxie
@eddieandmaxie 2 күн бұрын
Wrong notes and right notes are correct. Especially wrong notes because then that tells people that the music is natural and not robotic like sounding with every single right note, even though it is customary to listen to the right notes and feel impressed,
@user-qt8kh7fs6j
@user-qt8kh7fs6j 2 күн бұрын
You gotta be an idiot if this isn't common sense
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 2 күн бұрын
It isn’t. Everyone learns at their own path, and many aspects of piano playing are not as intuitive as they may seem if you were lucky to have a great first music teacher.
@user-qt8kh7fs6j
@user-qt8kh7fs6j Күн бұрын
@DenZhdanovPianist is there a such thing as a wrong note? And with a little practice and confidence you can make it work.
@TheGloryofMusic
@TheGloryofMusic 2 күн бұрын
I believe that a teacher should never ask a student to imitate his/her way of interpreting a piece (Andras Segovia was criticized for doing this). First of all, everyone has a different physiology and can't possibly copy another person's technique. Second, a piece of music has a life of its own, and even the composer is not necessarily the best interpreter of the music (Chopin preferred Liszt's playing of Chopin's preludes to his own).
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 2 күн бұрын
I am not fully convinced by your argument. It’s not about copying technique; it’s about universal physiological aspects and a careful adjustment to the needs of a particular student. Using an analogy, imagine there is an XXL-size suit that you can put on nearly every man, and then you carefully tailor it to their size. But every teacher can teach only what they know, and this is why you have students who play with flat fingers, students who play with curled fingers, a few students who play without technical issues, and many who play poorly. The real problem is not that teachers teach technique their own way; it’s that 95% don’t know how to teach it at all. In a special music school specializing in preparing prodigies, like the one I was trained in, you would typically have one-two teachers who prepares dozens of students with a very good, sustainable technique, because they know a whole bunch about efficiency playing principles. About five teachers in the same department are sometimes lucky to get natural talents who play the piano more or less naturally and without issues, while the rest of the class is unable to overcome their inefficiency. Additionally, there are usually a couple of teachers who have a very poor and dangerous misunderstanding of piano technique, and even gifted students under their instruction often end up with focal dystonia, among other issues. If a teacher avoids sharing their personal perspective on a piece, the education will be very formal and superficial. True art is passed from a master to an apprentice by demonstration and imitation at first, until a student matures enough to naturally feel they want to do it differently from their teacher. Imitation is as necessary a phase as maturing and separating. Only a small number of students will reach this stage and become independent, brilliant musicians who can be as good as or better than their teacher while doing things their own way. If I will have 3-5 students within my life span, who will become as good or hopefully better than me, I would be already quite happy. People get criticized for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes male competition participants are criticized for not wearing a blazer, and this can be a reason not to advance to the next round.
@lizweekes8076
@lizweekes8076 2 күн бұрын
Thank you Denis.🎉 I've learned something between classic music and romantic music. In Chopins music, the top note is softer whilst the top note in çlassic music (Mozart) is louder.
@kpokpojiji
@kpokpojiji 3 күн бұрын
Very interesting video. This brings to mind commentary by several of Liszt's pupils, who stated that Liszt, even in his old age, was perpetually evolving and exploring all aspects of the mechanics of piano technique and sound possibilities. Debussy, for whom Liszt played, said that he seemed to make the pedal breathe.
@ewallt
@ewallt 3 күн бұрын
I learned a similar technique to what you described. At 11:15 I could feel the tension in my forearm just by watching you. Ouch!
@DenZhdanovPianist
@DenZhdanovPianist 2 күн бұрын
Yes, with some experience in piano efficiency your mirrored neurons allow you to almost physically feel sensations in somebody’s arm while watching it. Therefore, I live in a constant pain specializing on students wishing to overcome their technical limitations ouch😅😭
@lizweekes8076
@lizweekes8076 3 күн бұрын
Thank you Denis.🎉
@foaadfallah2143
@foaadfallah2143 3 күн бұрын
Thank u so much great explanation❤
@hoomaaneslami7607
@hoomaaneslami7607 3 күн бұрын
This channel is amazing! I thought he had hundred thousands of subscribers because the quality is just so high
@ewallt
@ewallt 3 күн бұрын
2:00 😅(Rubenstein practicing with accompaniments by his side).
@davidjohnson6553
@davidjohnson6553 3 күн бұрын
I read both of his biographies years ago. I remember him saying that he began his rigorous practicing routine around the time he started recording. He realized the sins he was getting away with in concert wouldn't do for a recording that would be subject to scrutiny. More to his credit that he succeeded.
@Seongjingoat
@Seongjingoat 3 күн бұрын
I absolutely love these videos, I really learnt a lot! I love the way you break everything down, very easy to follow! You should definitely do an analysis video on Seong-Jin Cho in the future, I believe he has one of the most efficient and solid piano techniques out there!
@kalla_c
@kalla_c 3 күн бұрын
Very interesting video and channel. I would like to know what you think about the piano technique of Sokolov or Volodos.
@peterchan6082
@peterchan6082 3 күн бұрын
Artur Rubinstein. I always stand in awe before his name. My pianistic hero since the early to mid 1970s when I first heard his playings. Has always remained my hero ever since. The true pianist-musician who inspired my ardent love for the piano at the time when my parents made me learn the piano but I resisted vehemently.
@robertdyson4216
@robertdyson4216 3 күн бұрын
I was an Arthur Rubinstein fan from the 1950s and learned early from him that music is more than getting all the notes right. Very good analysis from you. I must work on that arm going up and the hand goes down. Many thanks.
@gretareinarsson7461
@gretareinarsson7461 3 күн бұрын
There is an obsession nowadays with “right” notes. “Right” notes without a feeling is just as bad as wrong notes all over the place.
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 3 күн бұрын
Exceptional quality in this video, content, pedagogy, insights and entertainment (you can always add a bit more entertainment, it works well but always moderation not excessive things). Your points are all excellent and i am like a student listening carefully your every word and making sure i understand and try what you demonstrate. I've had a few piano teachers and university piano teachers and you're equivalent with them at the top. Agree that best pianists and best teachers are rarely the same person. You get inspiration from great pianists but don't listen to their opinions and you get technique from great pedagogues but use your own imagination. I have always been looking down on A. Rubinstein but your video corrected my bias on him. His technique of relaxed playing and forehand playing is superb but i think he played everything with it, and it sometimes sounds robotic. Most of all it's his snob like theatricals when playing that made him antipathetic to me and i still think i would not like his company as a person but he had some important technical mastery worth to learn from. Another controversial aspect that you did well not to mention is that he was part of the establishment (same ethnic background) and that gave him a preference to music critics which were also part of it and even after he was long gone you were forced by the establishment to revere him to be accepted in those corruption circles. But he was not without merit he was a true talent. The main musical critic i would make is that he used a one style of articulation to play nearly every repertoire and that does not always work compared to for example Cortot who had far more colors variety and sound expressivity.
@michael1sukenik
@michael1sukenik 3 күн бұрын
I am reading the Arthur’s two autobiography books - The way the books are written, you feel like he shares with you his extraordinary life and talent.