Nah. It's kinda great.

Wait, you can actually read George's outlines for the sequel trilogy? Like, verified?

cope comment

@@coletale If it was never canon, then why did Disney announce it no longer being canon?

Rocket Jump's video is shit.

@@Doomlovesearth2and this video is not constructive criticism

@@DJKi2463 This video exposes RocketJump's video's lies and misinformation.

@@Doomlovesearth2 with are only lies depending on ur definition.

@@DJKi2463 Lies that are provable.

I ain’t reading allat

So you decide not to watch this video. Which means your opinion has no value.

Empire is good but its largely clung to as being "the best" because of sheer spite since you're insistent on buying into the lie that George wasn't present for the majority of its production, and you didn't like his later movies, George wrote the script for ESB he funded the damn thing and had to apply for a second loan after Kershner and Kurtz nearly sunk the movie and after they nearly bankrupted him George was onset almost everyday, he did the battle of hoth, all the special effects sequences, edited the film and when Kershners rough cut didn't work he had to film re-shoots. In other words one could say George Lucas saved ESB in the edit. As for Star Wars: A New Hope........Marcia like the rest of them did as she was told.

@@anomalyinc3239 Well said.

George Lucas's Star Wars prequel trilogy is a pure masterpiece, a wonderful, magnificent, exciting, significant, and extremely rich work that has greatly contributed to the story, universe, characters, lore, and mythology of Star Wars. They are the best, the greatest films of all time, a great cult and exciting trilogy from start to finish. It's the Star Wars as George Lucas always wanted it to be. It's the best Star Wars trilogy, the greatest Star Wars trilogy, the richest, most accomplished, most complete, the best period; everything is superb: the deepening of the Star Wars universe and its narrative elements are superb and exciting, and it explores in detail the period of the Clone Wars, a crucial moment in Star Wars history. A fundamental and exciting turning point. The Clone Wars period is the best period of Star Wars. The fascinating plot that unfolds throughout the films. The rise of Palpatine, Darth Sidious, is masterfully depicted. His behind-the-scenes machinations to undermine the Galactic Republic and bring the galaxy under his control are meticulously presented. His manipulation to form a massive clone army and eradicate the Jedi with Order 66 is a central element of the story, explaining how the Galactic Empire took shape following the fall of the Republic and how Anakin fell to the dark side to become Darth Vader, a fallen hero who just wanted to save those he loved. Anakin Skywalker's transformation into Darth Vader is a superb, memorable, breathtaking scene. The connection with the original trilogy is very well done. Anakin's internal conflict between his loyalty to the Jedi Order and his desire to save those he loves makes his story deep and tragic. His journey to the dark side, with key moments such as his confrontation with Count Dooku and his heartbreaking final duel with Obi-Wan Kenobi on Mustafar. The prequel trilogy also brought invaluable richness to the Star Wars universe, with a detailed look at the Jedi Order, Padawan training, Sith, combat mastery, and Jedi teachings. The spotlight on the Sith and their philosophy strengthened the dark side of the Force, adding depth and complexity to the saga. The political aspect of the prequel adds a new dimension to the Star Wars universe, with Palpatine's machinations in the Galactic Senate and growing tensions between planetary systems, creating a richer context for the later events of the Original Trilogy, the rise of the Empire, the fall of the Republic, the extinction of the Jedi, and Anakin Skywalker's tragic story. The expansion of the universe is also great. New planets, races, creatures, peoples, and cultures are introduced, contributing to creating a larger and more diverse world. Iconic locations such as Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Felucia, and Mustafar provide visually captivating backdrops for action scenes, development, and key plot moments. Beloved and iconic characters, Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padmé Amidala, Qui-Gon Jinn, Mace Windu, General Grievous, Jango Fett, Watto, Sebulba. The action scenes and lightsaber battles are among the most memorable in the saga. Epic battles such as the Battle of Geonosis, the podrace on Tatooine, the Battle of Naboo, and the battle above Coruscant are very memorable and iconic of the saga. The lightsaber duels between iconic characters such as Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, Darth Maul, and Yoda are executed with exceptional choreography, adding a visceral dimension to the story. The prequel also enriches the Star Wars lore with new charismatic and endearing characters, unforgettable music, "Duel of the Fates," "Across the Stars," "Battle of the Heroes," a super rich, exciting, and comprehensive lore, and a talented cast of actors, Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman, Samuel L. Jackson, and Liam Neeson. Natalie Portman is superb, magnificent, sweet, sensual, and charismatic, giving her character Padmé Amidala queen and senator of Naboo an exemplary strength, determination, and courage. She's perfect, she's iconic. Her evolution from a queen to a senator, into a badass, elegant, and determined woman, is a central characteristic of the trilogy. Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson bring memorable class and presence to the screen. Their dynamic as Jedi Masters is palpable, and they convey a wisdom and determination that anchor the story in the Jedi legacy. Additionally, Christopher Lee's presence as Count Dooku adds a touch of class, elegance, and charisma, amplified by his Shakespearean speech. The prequel was the rejuvenation of the Star Wars saga, bringing real dramatic scope, real political context, stakes, new superb and iconic characters, iconic action scenes, a much richer universe, a more developed, more diverse universe, and a much more extensive universe. It expanded the lore of the saga, and complements the original trilogy being inseparable from it. The Star Wars prequel is a masterpiece, and the Star Wars trilogy is a masterpiece and together form an incredible whole, a single great story of exceptional galactic epic. The story of Anakin Skywalker, from his Jedi training to his fall to the dark side of the Force to his redemption as a Jedi by saving his son, destroying the Sith, and restoring balance to the Force. The story of the Galactic Empire, once a democratic Republic, and the story of Palpatine, his evolution from senator to chancellor to becoming the emperor of the galaxy, his manipulations to establish his authority in the senate, to create his own Galactic Empire, to overthrow the Jedi Order, and to keep Anakin with him as an apprentice. and the technological advancement towards digital, modern technologies, computer editing, special effects, to create new worlds, new extraordinary and extraordinary world-building, new peoples and to build the extraordinary story of the Star Wars prequel, a true expanded, gigantic, extremely rich universe, with infinite possibilities, exploring new planets, new peoples, new civilizations, new technologies, new worlds, just like Avatar.

Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars movie.

Personally, while I find the evidence that Rey was most likely intended to be a secret Solo during the production of The Force Awakens, I'm not so sure about The Last Jedi. The "your parents were nobodies" thing feels less like misdirection and more like trying to find an escape hatch, not in the sense that Rian Johnson was subverting JJ Abrams's plan but in the sense that higher-ups behind the scenes were getting cold feet (possibly because of criticisms of The Force Awakens being too similar to A New Hope), and so the decision was made to establish a possible out but not commit to anything until a final decision was made. Otherwise why not, for example, establish the existence of a memory tampering force power in Episode VIII, or hint that Luke knew something that he wasn't willing to say, or foreshadow the twist in any number of other ways without opening JJ's mystery box just yet? Similarly, if "they" had all been dead-set on Rey being a Solo the entire time, I don't think that Carrie Fisher's death would have stopped them. You could do stuff like "can I kill Kylo when he's the only family that I have left?" and so on. It feels more plausible to me that this was used as an excuse to change course by higher-ups who had already been nervous about going down that route for a long time. Which would also explain why "they" wouldn't want to admit to the existence of such a plan today. Mostly speculation, but I generally feel like there are details that we still don't know about how things went down behind the scenes.

Furthermore, Carrie Fisher died one year before The Last Jedi was released, so maybe there were hints towards Rey Solo in scenes that were shot for The Last Jedi but were cut out of the final release. Daisy Ridley saying in November 2017 that she thought that the identity of Rey's parents still had not changed would seem to suggest that it was the backlash after the release of The Last Jedi, and not Carrie Fisher's death, that was the final straw that led them to decide to abandon their Rey Solo plans, even if higher-ups had already had doubts before then. It's a shame that this channel hasn't uploaded a new video in years. I would really appreciate a Part 3 going over since-released behind the scenes information about the making of the Rise of Skywalker.

How would the same man that continued Disney's horrible slop in every one of their shows, including his personal playground of Ahsoka, be in any way capable of incorporating Lucas' ideas in anything else? Especially considering that Rey movies have nothing to do with George or his original ideas, since it's so far beyond the scope of whatever his vision of the sequel trilogy would have been.

No

There is no Rey movie.

😆 Yep

Your opinion on Star Wars is irrelevant, this also goes for me as well and everyone else here. What's relevant are the differences and contradictions between Rocket Jump's videos and their sources of information (particularly JW Rizzlers book). Read JW Rizzlers book, otherwise you don't actually know how wrong Rocket Jump's video is, making any further arguments pointless

@@t6kr958 Rocket Jumps video at the very least states how editing works, this video is a nitpick, here’s a fan saying “oh I hate how this one professor is talking about Star Wars, I think that the film should not have been re-edited. I’m going to make one giant rant video” that’s what it is. Your video is opinionated. Rocket Jump is fact.

​@@DJKi2463It's not "my video", I didn't even mention Nerdonymous' video specifically, I'm referring To JW Rizzlers book because Rocket Jump contradicts it. If Rocket Jump contradicts his own sources then how can his video be "fact". Where is Rocket Jump's real source of information and why does he lie about using Rizzlers as a source? Also as a professional video editor, I guarantee you everything Rocket Jump said regarding the editing was subjective, which would be fine except he presents his subjective opinion in the context of history which comes out as false and misleading. For example, if I said Luke's green lightsaber worked better for his character, that's subjective and anyone can agree or disagree to it, but if I said that it was Mark Hamil's idea to make the lightsaber green, that's just false because that's no what happened. If Rocket Jump thought the deleted Luke scenes were boring that's completely fine.and he can express that, but he says the film makers deleted the scenes because they were boring, which is objectively false because again that's not what happened. Editing is subjective and history is objective, but you for whatever reason think it's the other way around which is concerning to say the least

@@t6kr958 Well said.

@@t6kr958 you didn’t read my comment, I’ve said my piece.

Can you take that shaboing outta your mouth? Rocketjump was clearly in the wrong.

@@polyman6859 they made a version of Star Wars history that was easy to understand. This video feels like if a nerd got angry cause of the fact so he made one giant rant against it.

@@DJKi2463 "they made a version of Star Wars history that was easy to understand." You're one word off from being correct. Add the word 'up' between 'made' and 'a' then you'll be right and also explain why you liked it. Why do literally any research into what somebody is talking about or listen to their inaccurate assessments of the film's exposition and tone when you can just not think critically? The very fact you credit RJ for being "easy to understand" shows what your priority really was, an easy made up narrative that appeals to you specifically rather than paints the truth.

@@polyman6859 there is no perfect way to discuss such a topic as editing to a newcomer, mainly the people who watch these video. This video reeks of someone who just is mad of the original video and portrayed George Lucas, the original video is far from perfect but it’s entertaining and informative. And is for the most part accurate to its source material. There are films in our history that went through crazy events, Star Wars is one of them.

@@DJKi2463 So you're really just gonna plug your ears and deny official comments from the editors themselves? In that case, RJ's video is STILL bad because it took quotes from them for the purpose of painting their easy to swallow made up story. Specifically, the made up narrative RJ made you believe has been debunked by George's ex wife btw.

That's your subjective opinion. It has not do with the film makers opinion or the real reasons why they moved it

The "real" reasons? LOL You're brainwashed. George Lucas just doesn't want to give his three editors credit for saving Star Wars, especially when there was a release deadline set by the studios.

That's not my opinion, it's a fact from JW Rizzlers book, the source Rocket Jump claims to use for his video. And JW rizzlers book isn't George Lucas's perspective, it's a combination perspective of perspectives put together by a respected expert (historian). @@TreeRockCreations

@@t6kr958 Oh! Another one of the brainwashed Star Wars "fans" that reference that "holy bible" book that was written by George Lucas. JW worked for George Lucas and was only allowed to document what George Lucas wanted documented. That book is not a creditable source because George Lucas approved everything that went into that book. It is bias.

​@@TreeRockCreationsWhat's your evidence that JW Rizzlers book is biased? Dave Pollock's book isn't George Lucas biased but he also says the same things as JW Rizzler. But even if JW Rizzlers book was biased or untrue, then how does that make Rocket Jump's video correct when that was his source of information? Where is Rocket Jump's real credible source of information then and why does he lie about using JW Rizzlers book? How can Rocket Jump be anymore factual than the source he himself claim to use?

fr this youtuber sucks! Cant even give critics like a normal dude, but makes fun of the guy

You missed the point, nothing about what you said was factual. Your subjective analysis is irrelevant. This video isn't a general star wars making video, nor is it necessarily nerdonymous' opinion, this video compares Rocket Jump's video to the sources of information (JW Rizzler's book in particular) and it shows how Rocket Jump manipulate the information into something false. For example Luke's introduction, Rocket Jump says that the droid purchasing scene wasn't supposed to be Luke's original introduction, except not only is that proven false by Dave Pollock''s account at 20:58 and George Lucas' commentary at 20:35, but JW Rizzler at 23:37 also contradicts Rocket Jump's information. Rocket Jump contradicting JW Rizzler's account is especially a big deal because Rocket Jump claimed to use that particular source for his video. "no lucas saying he wanted the droids to be the main characters doesn't make that scene Luke's original planned introduction. You're making a random guess there" you clearly didn't watch the video objectively because nerdonymous did show evidence of that being the case, especially at 23:37.

@t6kr958 and I repeat. No that's still not the case. We've already talked about how often this script was rewritten and reworked. So why would this scene be completely unaltered and unchanged. Couch your words in as much pseudo intellectualism as you like. You're still just using it to justify a nonsense crusade. The undeniable truth is when this scene was shot it was not intended to be looks introduction. That's not manipulation. But let's remove that. If this had originally been Luke's intended introduction (it's almost certainly not) how does that actually argue against the point rocket jump is making here? They're making an arguement about the importance of editing, in this case, why it's sometimes good to cut out certain scenes that don't add much and drag the pace. And the material they provide proves that either way This guy's arguement only makes sense if you accept the premise that rocket jumps video is about proving george lucas is a hack and needed to be saved by his editors. This is not the point of the video. As I stated. The actual video goes to great lengths to assert lucas' own role in the editing process.

@@t6kr958 then again. Why am I arguing with an obvious throw away bot account

I don't think you've done much research of the making of Star Wars outside of Rocket Jump's video. If you want to know the answer to your questions, read the book itself, they have the answers. JW Rizzlers book The Making of Star Wars is available on some websites, id recommend reading it yourself to find out how different the book's information is compared to Rocket Jump's garbage. Making a mistake or two is acceptable for videos, but the majority of Rocket Jump's "information" is contradicted by JW Rizzlers, the very source Rocket Jump claims to use. So objectively speaking Rocket Jump's video is bad and misinformed, which means one of two things; Rocket Nump did intentionally discredit George Lucas, OR Rocket Jump was trying to make an informative video but the majority of his information turned out to be inaccurate or misleading, making him one of the worst researchers on KZfaq. Either way Rocket Jump is worth criticizing. Everything you said can pretty much be rebuttald with "read JW Rizzlers book", @@anenemystand5582

Can you take rocketjump’s shaboing outta your mouth before you yap? Thanks.

Part of me agrees but remember George only gave them drafts of 7-9 because the existence of the sequels was an inevitable, not because he actually wanted them to exist. They would likely be better films than the disaster we got, but the *actual first* major storytelling misstep was selling Star Wars to Disney in the first place rather than not going with the creator's plan. Star Wars was already a complete story from 1-6, there never needed to be 7-9. They were imagined out of obligation first and a passion for storytelling second. Before selling, George had been asked to make episode 7 many times and has said there is no story left to tell.

@@polyman6859 Micheal Arnet’s completed screenplay was based on George’s conversations with him and original story outline notes for 7, 8 and 9.That is what was rejected. This was the conclusion I arrived. to after doing the research. It is a shame. it was a chance to have all the original characters return for one last trilogy. Instead of a “mystery box” of “shock and awe” of misdirected emptiness and meaningless plot points

@@MDarkraven Agree, we should've gotten Arnet's adaptation of Lucas' drafts. This two part video is the biggest redpill I've ever swallowed. It was in all likelihood, JJ Abrams' fault for the downfall of 7-9. Jett Lucas could pull a Tolkien's son and tell us the real story since he knew it but I wouldn't keep my chin up. The hope for Star Wars is in video games, animation, novels, and comic books.

Rocket Jump's video is terrible.

@@Doomlovesearth2 But damn, if it wasn’t a spell that worked some magic for a while, until someone got behind its curtains.

@@Wired4Life2 Yes indeed.

Nah, this video is pretty good.

@@Doomlovesearth2 Nah, this video is pretty trash.

@@paytonestrada7746 Nope this video is pretty good. Rocket Jump's video is trash.

Rocket Jump's video is terrible.

@@Doomlovesearth2 and Nerdonymous` one is terrible *too* You know, when an original video is bad, the debunk doesn`t have to be good/better by default. At least technically. Because the editing in *this* is awful.

@@YTWanderer No. Nerdonymous is good. It utterly destroys Rocket Jump's video. Also the editing is fine.