Thank you for suggesting this channel to people. I've been doing the same thing by telling people about your fantastic channel since I found it. I watched all your videos in one day and I'm doing the same thing here today with this channel.

Thank you also for bringing me to this. Your channel is also a gem!

We are looking forward to your treatment on the sequels as well!

And you managed to do it yourself, in just 25 minutes!

Or so douchily

TFA is such a hollow shell of a movie it's unreal

@@sunsetman22 It's an ultimate consoomers paradise. Everything good in that film was either ripped off (not in the inspired sense) or had been done before. Starkiller Base? Yeah let's just take that characters name from the video game and the early drafts of ANH and slap it on there A soldier who deserts? While I do love the character of Finn in TFA, doesn't that seem a tad similar to Cut Lawquane from Clone Wars? And of course, the entire plot of ANH is just copypasted. Sure, the prequels borrowed some elements from the originals but that was done in a way that was still original and actually contributed to the story.. :/

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has been saying this for years. J.J. is to blame - he's a terrible storyteller. Rian Johnson is an excellent storyteller and director who was handled a bad story set-up by a terrible storyteller.

I still think TFA _could_ have been a great movie that created a structurally sound foundation to build a new trilogy on. But they didn't do that lol. If you look at the poster for the movie, divide it in your minds eye into two halves split down the middle. Then, cover just the right side and look at the left; doesn't look like Star Wars. But, if it cover the left side and look at the right... looks great, doesn't it? Han, Leia, Chewbacca, R2, and a new Jedi. THAT would have been a good movie. Instead, they ruined Han, trashed George Lucas and everyone who worked on the prequels, and exploited nostalgia to make money on a mediocre at best and offensive at worst product.

Yep, I wrote a review of TFA the day it came out and I saw it... I think it slightly alienated me from some of my friends, but it was that bad...

Absolutely. People called me a fake fan 2015-2018 when I said I wasn't all that impressed by TFA. Just a bunch of setup for character arcs that is only good if harvested in the later episodes. Which wasn't done effectively. Luke goes through the hero's journey within episode 4, which is why they can't change the chronology of the OT when ripping it off, because it means Rey can't grow as easily/naturally as Luke did, resulting in her character being flat.

I was one of those that bought into the potential. I hated the stupidity and laziness that JJ had injected into so much of it - including the things you mentioned and so much more - but figured that he wouldn't be back and it was a good enough jumping off point that could be fixed by the next guy ignoring the stupid things. I didn't like the giant Pokeball Deathstar. A total lack of understanding (or caring) how seeing things in space works (I can accept some cinematic license, but he pulled the same seeing a planet in another part of the galaxy exploding that he did in Star Trek). I knew it was basically a retread but figured that wouldn't last past him. Etc. It's just continued to get dumber since then.

👍😂😂😂 It would have been a genuine surprise is Snoke came back. Making Snoke hard to kill would have added to the tension of the final confrontation. Instead it was “Palpatine? Oh for f$&ks sake! Really!?!?! … Please don’t tell me Palpatine is Rey’s grandfather! … Oh, you have got to be kidding me. I’m laughing now because I can’t suspend disbelief any longer.”

@@tjejojyj 'Oh okay so her PARENTS are nobodies! That pleases the people who liked the Last Jedi ! Now , to please people who didn't like the Last Jedi , let's make her grandfather a somebody like ,maybe, .... PALPATINE! Done and dusted : we've saved the trilogy' But .... if her grandfather is somebody .. .then her parents are somebody! And so you dissapoint both parties! "You've failed me for the last time , Captain Abrams" :0

J.J. Abrams killed Star Wars. Rian Johnson mutilated the corpse and pissed on it.

Then JJ committed necrophilic acts for Episode IX

I almost didn't watch TLJ because of how bad TFA was, but friends roped me into it... and needless to say I didn't bother with TRoS

@@lumeronswift, "You're a far wiser man than I am."

mauler cringe

I don't really like MauLer or Star Wars Theory, but the Apocrypha videos certainly deserve more views, so props to them for recommending it.

Those HACK's wouldn't like this. Its not "anti woke" enough and doesn't attack Rian Johnson enough.

@@monotech20.14 MauLer directly said he liked the "How "How Star Wars was saved in the edit" was saved in the edit", and encouraged people to watch it. He was never much of an "anti-woke" - he tends to steer clear of politics in general, - and while he did make the make a lot of fun of Rian, it was pretty much always deserved. He made just as much fun of other directors and writers that did a poor job, in Star Wars and in other properties. I might also note that part of MauLer's critique of The Last Jedi is used in this very video above. Theory though, that guy's pretty much the ultimate representation of the average Star Wars fan. Very little willingness for critical thinking, trying to search for an easy person to blame and and easy person to venerate. And of course if there's a simple explanation of "woke makes it bad" he goes with it, because that means you don't need to think carefully about it, just scream "woke!" and feel happy.

@@DawidKov Anyone who is part of the Friday Night Tights are lying pandering sexist bigots.

@@monotech20.14 That is certainly an opinion.

I would love to hear his thoughts on the current state of Star Wars after all of these shows, and the new trilogy being in development.

Bruh- this whole video is nothing BUT cynicism and speculation 😂

Hey look Another Man of culture

@@Yami1300 Hey look A weeb

@@misterairborne654 At your service

The way I see it in retrospect is that this trilogy was a ticking time bomb waiting to implode on itself. How long can you keep a mystery until you disappoint the audience (ep 8) or run out of time to actually give satisfying answers (ep 9)?

I think it was to give that connection to him once he was back as the main villain otherwise he’s just some old man that she’s never.

@@billmcdermott9647 But that makes no sense. Any nuance that could have been there was lost and never used. Watch their confrontation scene. How does Palpatine being her grandpa have anything to do with the scene. Does it add anything to the scene? Does Rey hesitate because he is her grandpa? No, it doesn't. It adds literally nothing

@@officialmonarchmusic but this Jj so it’s probably him trying to ape the Vader reveal because it is as you say…..she treats him as just another villain rather than her only living family. He is a barley alive wreck and you could have had her try to offer compassion but he rejects it,…seeing as the weakness found in all Jedi It’s trying to give them connection but it rings hollow because you never believe she will join him nor does she encourage him to let go of his greed

@@billmcdermott9647 There is a difference between "Join me and we can rule the galaxy as father and son" and "join me and I will possess you and I promise your friends will be OK even though I am the one in control". Whatever merit there is there has nothing to do with him being her grandfather. No nuance is there at all. Palpatine is more "the dude who had my parents murdered" than her actual grandfather. They had this stupid reveal for literally no reason other than for shock value. What a waste

@@officialmonarchmusic, exactly. It's like Nerdonymous said. The idea that Han and Leia were Rey's father and mother and Kylo was Rey's brother who killed her father right in front of her works so much better for the story. I'd still argue that with J.J. at the helm, it wouldn't have been very good, but good god, it would've been SOMETHING. ANYTHING than what we got.

I feel bad for every actor, they got involved in a fan fiction of the director who did not really care for their careers and only cared about his version of Star Wars. The saddest thing is that many Star Wars fans think the same way, doesn't matter what films they like, they love Star Wars for what it could be and not because of what it already is.

@@orlandofurioso7329, indeed. Those people deserve to have acted in an actually good Star Wars trilogy, one made according to the vision of George Lucas. Not the dogsh*t fanfiction spewed out by Jar Jar Abrams and Mr. Bubblehead Johnson.

Yeah just like before! LOL!! NOT!!!!

Don't forget MaRciA

Haha, lol.

Star Wars Saved by Paul Hirsch (According to Paul Hirsch )

SO true

The main reason I'm perfectly confident in saying the prequels are inherently better than the sequels is simple; on paper, the prequels are conceptually sound. The problem with the prequels was never its ideas, but its execution of those idea. The same cannot be said for the sequels, they are simply built on bad ideas.

@@Harrinsain in my opinion the problem of prequels was this that their scrpts needed a little more rewrites and polish before filming them. The whole midichlorians and Anakin being the chosen one wasn't really that important to the story.(Since if you remove those ideas from the prequels and the story would remain the same.)

@@DaraG-sn2nj Anakin being the chosen one wasn't really that important to the story? Seriously? It made his arc even better imo as there was a push pull over whether or not he would or wouldn't destroy the Sith ('A prophecy that misread, could have been') only to prove his peers wrong in ROTJ

Hear, Hear! :)

he gave up on it, just like Plinkett did, that movie is so messy its not even worth talking about it, it just speaks for itself.

The funny thing is that JJ can't even write the third film of a trilogy without introducing more mystery boxes: The "I never told you.." scene between Finn and Rey, and also Lando's "well, let's find out" line towards Jannah.

This same thing happened with Terminator: Genisys, where we were told that who sent Pops back was "classified".

@@fundhund62 Yeah, I always wondered what that was about..... Oh well! Time to find out in episodes X, xi, and xii ! 😂😂

George would've handled Kurtz-Luke so, so much better and in a much more meaningful way than just "haha Jedi bad watch me gulp blue milk"

@@sunsetman22 Kurtz-Luke ?

@@vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 The idea that Luke becoming a depressed hermit would be modelled after Colonel Kurtz from 'Apocalypse Now'

it's like poetry

@@shira_yone It kinda rhymes

@@t6kr958it does rhyme but it’s like an awful simile because it’s purely rhythmic for the sake of repetition rather than using established motifs for actual nuance and care into the mythos. Look up “Every Time Star Wars Quotes Star Wars” by Rick Worely. Instead of reading the ring theory Lucas himself answers the question of the need to be repetitive. Lucas said that he likes to tell a story and retell the same plot in various styles. The man was discredited from actually giving nuance because Star Wars is solely meant to be fun for the loud mouths that lack actual film literate opinions…

​@@shira_yonepottery even. It shatters

We now know , thanks to Adam Driver that Kylo wasn't supposed to be redeemed and go back to the light side of the Force. So in TLJ , Rian Johnson didn't ruin Luke ,in that way anyway when Luke said he can't save Kylo. Again IT WAS JJ'S FAULT. The whole trilogy being shit is JJ's fault. Its JJ's fault. It was his idea to not use Lucas's story, it was JJ who put Luke away on an island and it was JJ's fault to change Kylo at the last 30 mins of epi 9. Not to mention bring back Sidious.

​@@monotech20.14Wow, so Ryan's Luke would've been correct about not being able to save him? JJ also ruined the entire Star Wars saga by undoing Anakin being the chosen one.

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 JJ is a HACK and got lucky. BTW wouldn't Luke of all people know who can and can not be saved? Remember in RotJ Luke says "I can feel the conflict within you". Its a lot better than Kylo changing 15 mins before the end of the movie.

It would, and if Nerdonymous was right, it should've. But they didn't. And that's f*cking infuriating.

Honestly, having Rey be Han and Leia's long-lost daughter would've been such a better inclusion in the story. But because JJ is a hack who doesn't like it when his terrible "mystery boxes" are easily figured out, he decided to... wait for it... "SuBverT eXPectAtiOns" by making Rey a Palpatine. It's honestly insulting, just the cherry on top of the mountain of insults that is the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy.

@@TheIllcaster, and even then, the story is brought down on the very premise that the state of the galaxy is bad with a new Empire on the rise. Why? Why not make it so that the main antagonists are pro-Imperial insurgents fighting against the New Republic, who are working alongside the Jedi to crack down on, with Kira (I do not care for the Rey name) Solo being one of those Jedi fighting against Imperial remnants? That would make for a far more interesting story than the Original Trilogy shoddily repeated.

​@@occam7382we cant do that. That would be an interesting story w/ incredible rewatch value; and we cant have that

@@katakesh8566, indeed, my friend... (Sigh) Indeed...

🤣🤣🤣

I remember when that happened. I remember thinking to myself 'hm okay, this will probably be in the movie. ...wait, you mean it ISN'T?'

That would have been very interesting... but it would've required creativity, storytelling talent, and genuine care for this franchise. All of which J.J. Abrams clearly lacks.

Absolutely! He obviously understands these movies like few other people do. Check out the channel So Uncivilized for similar expert analysis of Star Wars. Both channels have pointed out things I've never heard or thought about and that's rare at this point. I've watched so many of these videos I've heard just about everything.

Quoting Palpatine "DEW IT"

Yeah I wasn't tbh, I was hyped until I learned that fact. When I saw the movie, I saw the corporate sludge and knew fans would eat it up. The prequels were always as good as the OT to me, genuinely a masterclass in film making. They made mistakes, but so did the OT. I've hated the boomer prequel hate train ever since I first saw people shitting on it online, like all of the criticisms were just an excuse to shit on them for not being the same as the OT, and I knew those same fans would eat 7 up. It hurts me even to this day that people are just now loving the prequels as they should be and that it took people so long to realize how terrible Disney handled Star Wars. I should feel happy to be proven right, but it's just depressing

I feel you, man. I was super dumb when these movies came out.

I mean, If this series is correct in it's assertions of JJ's active involvement in lucas' story being refused, and the last jedi being what it is to save JJ's mystery boxes, then I feel like the blame that Rian got for his incompetence is highly disporportionate for the blame that JJ and disney as a whiole got for their active attempts at making the trilogy what it is. Rian is not innocent (far from it) , but the blame should not, as I see it, be distributed equally, as if they were both equally responsible for what ended up happening

@@spritingk6879, oh yeah. Rian deserves hate only for the terrible ideas in his own movie, and nothing more. J.J. deserves hate for the entire trilogy.

Rick Worley does a great job as well.

Maybe that's why he disappeared, a house fire swept around and no one was alerted

20 seconds in and I opened the comments to see if the smoke detector battery chirp something in the comments… because I wanna watch the whole video but I don’t want to hear that “…… BEEP…….” for an hour and 40 minutes. : (

@@thegoodgeneral it's not throughout the entire thing but I don't remember exactly how much it is there for

Do you think this happy ceiling dweller is engaging in the act of coitus?

holy fuck, LOL!

Like you I also knew there was going to be a huge problem for Star Wars after the catastrophic and stupid Star Trek of 2009. But I didn't think it was going to be handled this badly. Even if it's very sad, it will have the merit to show that Abrams is one of the worst incompetent of the movie industry. And show that Lucas had done a good job with the prelogy and that it is necessary that his version of the sequels be shot.

@@philippealain-art Agreed 💯

OH Spielberg is JJ's godfather....it makes sense now. That's why he has such nepotism.

You know it's bad when TLJ fans like Patrick Willems are predicting based on Felicity that Abrams would fumble Episode IX. About the most sensible thing he's ever said.

It hurts even more when you realize how disappointed they all were. Boyega, Isaac, Hamill, Ridley, so many of the lower level cast and crew HATED the films. They felt like they were a part of something silly, pointless, or just bad. It's so fucking sad

@@Jiub_SN, yeah. When you hear the cast and crew of the Original and Prequel Trilogies praising and defending Goerge Lucas to this very day, while the only reason J.J. hasn't been dragged through the mud by his cast and crew is pressure from the House of Mouse... it's just sad.

the shared existence of man and religiosity:

Meaning is never inherent.

Lmao I heard it too and now I'm worried thats why we haven't seen him in 3 years

Glad I’m not the only one that noticed! At first thought it was one of my smoke detectors and it was driving me crazy lol

The ACTUAL actual takeaway is that Rey should've just stayed as Kira Solo, and they should've stuck with George's Sequel Trilogy idea from the beginning.

Or at least let us know what the outline for the episodes would have been. Lucas already gave us an idea of the world he wanted to set up in the Star Wars Archives, but the exact story itself is somewhat murky

i didn't even figure out the kylo one until i saw this comment💀

SOLEANNA FROM SONIC 06???!!!1111111

Solana was easy, but I had to check the comments to understand the sKylo. Where does the Ren comes from, though?

I find it abit poetic, but I wouldn't say no to bringing back Palpatine one more time, only properly ending him this time, and ending the sequel hexology in a satisfying way. It'd be almost an exact mirror of when Palpatine was brought back in the EU, fans hating it, then bringing him back again to properly cap the story and not leave Palpatine being able to return again. I'd probably prefer to see a new generation of characters though, I'm basicallt shot of this set.

“My name’s not Shane, kid!” 💥🔫

Lucas is not above criticism and he certainly has made mistakes, but the visceral hatred for Lucas is something I find to be utterly ridiculous.

He deserves the hate just for creating jar jar and ruining the OT with the special editions. Lucas is a hack. Has been since return of the jedi

@@edwardelric603 "Ruining", yeah right. And about rotj, Marcia cheated on him and he had depression and wanted the movie production to end as soon as possible, let's not forget that Ford and Fisher also arrived wasted at the set.

​@@orlandofurioso7329 Ford was too? I never knew that.

​@@orlandofurioso7329 Both of them being wasted on set explains *so much* about their acting in ROTJ

"oh my god how dare didney use all these stuff from the eu when they can never hope to make anything as good as them such defilement"

@kubli What the fuck does this comment even mean? There is so much good material in the extended universe, and the majority of the fans would have been happy to see Disney adapt some of it. The fact that we didn't get to see Luke training a new generation of Jedi on the big screen is simply criminal misuse of the property.

They're just stealing it and reintegrating it in their shows with their own characters.

Refused to understand? Maybe George is just too hard to understand. I don't know how many people even see there's any rhyme structure, the franchise has a reputation of just being fun adventure, not some deeply structured masterpiece.

If you believe in the "Jar Jar was supposed to be a Sith" rumor, then this reveal would have been the twist had Lucas not wussed out because of fan backlash towards Jar Jar.

That's how I feel about pretty much all the actors involved. They're damn good and would have been perfect for the roles, but were let down by the Mouse.

Problem is, you would have had to actually tell a story in that instance. That's not what Abrams or Disney wanted: Just play on nostalgia, and don't make any decisions that could put off certain fans. You can study this approach to a tee in The Mandalorian. It's nothing but a fanservice orgy. "Do you remember that guy? Or this droid? Or these seismic charges?" And yet peopld go crazy over it. It's a shame 🙈

"B-but wut about muh mystery box?" 😵‍💫 You're bang on the money. It should have been about the grandchildren and served to recontextualize the wider story like the prequels :0

Yeah, that wouldn't have been quite so bad.

Idk maybe

I mean no disrespect but what will hitting 2,500 signatures accomplish? Or even 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000?

Lmao 1500 signatures after 8 YEARS? Please don’t bother Lucas with this nonsense, leave the poor guy alone.

@@self2self9, this petition isn't for George. It's for Kathleen Kennedy.

I was with you. I realized the moment they abandoned Lucas' plan and moved the date back that it was over. It would be a rush job and it was done by JJ Abrams. That was all I needed to know to not even see it on release, and when everyone seemed to like it I borrowed my cousins Blu-ray and realized I was so right. TLJ showed everyone, and somehow JJ got away Scott free even with ROS. I should feel vindicated, but I'm just so fuckin sad ab it

I had the same feeling after watching TFA. I was really hyped, because it was the first time I was watching Star Wars on big screen surrounded by other fans. But this first experience turned out to be not what I expected. I was in denial, I couldn't accept that Star Wars film can be just something average like any other blockbuster out there. I was stupid enough to watch it in cinema twice, on IMAX! Because I thought I missed something important from the first try. But this second time changed nothing, TFA had no story to enjoy, it showed nothing new, it felt just empty. It was wrong from the first seconds of reading the crawl. Where is the republic? How heroes from OT could allow this to happen? How is it possible that New order came out of nowhere? (as you can see, ST was ruined from the beginning) And I did it again when TLJ came out. I gave it a chance. And I regret I paid for this garbage! I was hoping to find the answers to all "mystery" in TFA. But this time I felt like I was scammed. I couldn't believe what was happening on the screen. I miss George Lucas. And I doubt that anyone can write stories and make films like he did. And I'm not blaming him for selling Lucasfilm, because it was the right thing to do for him and his team. He had to let it go to spend more time with his family. Family was always the main focus of Star Wars. I think we can learn something from it.

Wow 2 hours ago lmao. Hey man.

Not unless we can petition the f*ckers at Disney to make an animated version of George's Sequels.

Cheers!

It feels weird seeing all of the names you mentioned there together, considering from what I've seen of the ones I've seen, they aren't all telling the same story, there's a few who I've seen something of or interacted with that did something that made me not want to see more of them, and the only one of these people who I still mostly come out with a positive impression of after watching more than one video from is Rick Worley. I don't think it should be a controversial statement that a lot of Star Wars fans can be extremely toxic, and that this is easily visible online, and while for most of these creators I wouldn't say I've directly seen them doing or saying anything vile, there somehow manages to be something somewhere in something I see from them online that has me wondering at bare minimum, what spaces are you in that have you saying this or showing this? Because there are certain narratives and viewpoints that are extremely prominent in some of the worst circles of the community (if they are products of them or fundamentally inseparable from them) that manage to find their way into, or at least hint as being somewhere in some of these. Or in the case of this specific video, the creator for some reason chose to include a clip from E;R of all people, which only really tells me that at some point they actually watched videos of theirs, and didn't think they sucked enough to be a person they're better off ignoring. I don't remember everything that had me wondering "why was this said," but I do remember in the first part this video's creator for some reason referred to Abrams as (not in their view) "Jewish superman," and that's really weird in conjunction with actually including clips from someone like E;R. Also many weird variations of vague reasoning for why certain decisions have been made with regards to the sequels, often attributing them to Disney as if there's any reason to believe they had anything to do with actual decisions being made creatively outside of deadlines and budget decisions (this video is not guilty of that in particular). But some of the things different creators mentioned here might say with regards to the sequels might not explicitly contradict each other, but it seems weird to me that anyone would believe the different things said simultaneously.

Actually, remembering who Style is Substance is, I actually kind of like them too (from what I've seen anyway), but haven't seen their Star Wars related anything yet.

not star wars theory

Ok you sound kinda whiny yourself though, and if those critics made you "feel dumb" and you weren't able to counter them in text form or idk, doesn't that mean that you... were kinda dumb? Also Rick Worley has made some incredibly flawed arguments in support of PT and SE - for all his knowledge about film allusions, his textual understanding of plot points etc. seems below average. So rallying around him is not a winning position; and Nerdonymous' ST negativity gets irrational at times as well, plus he's apparently got blindspots about how internally consistent the "1-6 saga" is.

JJ's Mistery Box ultimate failure. 😂

I started it, quit midway 🤦‍♂️

I almost didn't see it. I wish I didn't.

I can recommend it as a comedy movie, i laughed my ass from beginning to end, especially a scene in a desert planet where pigs laugh, yes there's a scene like that in the movie

I watched the ytps of rise of Skywalker, then I watched it on Disney Plus while in anticipation of CloneWars saved so I could understand the joked better

I did not know where that was from!

Ah, so my suspicions on what that photo was have finally been confirmed!

Beautifully said my friend, beautifully said. George Lucas IS Star Wars, and only HE can truly make a Sequel Trilogy that is faithful to the fundamental core of the Saga. The filmmaking and storytelling quality in The Prequels and Originals in comparison to the Sequels is baffling - they are millions of times better in everyway, and although Rian Johnson tried his best to be faithful to Lucas' filmmaking philosophy in The Last Jedi - a film I utmost respect as trying to do something different in Star Wars - it's Abrams, Kennedy and Disney which brought the whole trilogy down. I'm so depressed that George never made the Sequels, I really am. If only, if only...

@@Lunar_Pendragon agreed

Lucas is a moron. Look at the prequels and special editions. Disney is no worse

You mean fascist facsimiles? And how is he "not good at setting up mysteries", if he wasn't then ppl wouldn't bchd and moaned about how disappointing Alias or Lost were, or how much Ruin ruined those set-ups, since no one would care lol Looks like someone's got a dog in the fight here lmfaol

@@username45739 jj set up mysteries he had not intention of answering and if you had to write the next movie you would have trouble coming up with a satisfactory answer.

@@username45739 again he had no set up he just made these mysteries to get asses in seats aka marketing like nerdonymous said.

@@spearfisherman308 " jj set up mysteries he had not intention of answering" My point was that he did a good job setting those up, or else no one would've gotten hyped for next product (and then "let down", to put it a slightly mildly); your response doesn't address that at all, however it seems like that's how it happened, so yeah

@@username45739 no he didn't setting up doesn't equal good the fact that you got hyped is part of the marketing con and means he doesn't have to do any work, good set gives us the world and the rules that ot plays by the prequels did this in episode 1 by showing how the republic was inept due to corruption at handling the nano crisis and allows for palpatine to get his claws into power

Well, unfortunately he decided to sell his story to Disney for a fuckload of money. So if it started as his it definitely isn't anymore. And ultimately I'm most annoyed with him. When you make art, even if it's shit (prequels), you keep working at it. You don't take money to compromise on your vision the way he did and then feign surprise when they shit on your work.

@@schwartzschild2908 I mean, most if not all of the money went to charity so there's that. Also, mattters aren't as simple as you think they are. Some 'fans' harassed him. GL got a lot of hate. And not only that, but he was old and he wanted Star Wars to live on, so to speak.

@@VibingMeike I never thought "matters" were simple. Preserving your artistic integrity is never simple, much less easy. Lucas had a lot of options at his disposal for making sure his vision and ideas were adhered to. Thats the latitude afforded by wealth. Namely the sales terms. Unfortunately he failed to take the steps necessary to safeguard what he presumably cherished. And at this juncture it's clear that no sequels are better than what we ended up with. But please, spare me the "he got a lot of hate." He's been getting that for literally decades since he nonsensically marred his original films with brainless additions, yet he pressed on.

Bang on!

Exactly my thoughts, after watching his 3 amazing takes, I need him to make prequel videos, fleshed out responses to RLM, and maybe talk about EU stuff and Clone Wars.

@@barfyman-wn3id I still think the Mr. Plinkett videos offer the best explanation for why people don't like the Star Wars prequels. However, I feel some of Mike Stoklassa's opinions, regardless of whether they're supposed to be delivered in character, are bizarre. His reasoning for why Samuel L. Jackson was cast comes to mind. Personally, I don't like the prequel trilogy, but I am a moderate fan of the Clone Wars cartoon. Both of them actually. And I still enjoy some of the stories from the old EU. Star Wars has such a vast amount of stories across all forms of media. It's a cliché expression, but there really is something for everyone.

@@germanchocolatecake8143 "If I was Obi-Wan, I would kill Luke" - Mike Stoklasa

He pretty much tips his hand at the end of the video.

Hollywood (and that includes the corporate media that relie$ on it) never forgave George Lucas for gaining his independence. And they've been attacking his character ever since.

Congratulations. You've thought through the story of the Sequel Trilogy more than all of the people actuall responsible for it combined.

I couldn’t conceive of how they wouldn’t be out looking for her, especially if she’d been kidnapped, stolen or whatever.

Easy, fake her death and then use Snoke/dark side to conceal her just like Palpatine concealed his identity

The Han at the end of Return of the Jedi wouldn't abandon Leia, his entire arc was being someone willing to do anything to help his friends and TFA reverted him back to the start of A New Hope. Luke wouldn't give up on Kylo either. They didn't just subvert expectations, they crapped all over them and didn't know what they were doing.

I think Han and Leia were supposed to be the parents of Rey, but JJ Abrams had no clue how to reveal or explain that information, so Rian Johnson was stuck with trying to solve that mystery box.

despite TLJ being such a mess and Rian's response to the backlash being...less than humble, I think the guy is a much better director and much more talented that J.J. and I'm happy that he's doing so well with Knives Out and its sequels. I just wish he and Abrams would've never gotten involved with Star Wars.

@@sunsetman22 I agree. I have a bigger issue with Rian as a person than I do him as a director. Now JJ? I genuinely believe he is a shit director. But I don't particularly have problems with him as a person. That said, I would much rather neither one touched Star Wars. Though I lean heavily towards the directors aren't the biggest problem with the sequels.

My main problems still are the way TFA ends (barely showing luke, after waiting the whole movie ) Han Solo getting killed the way he did, then the way TLJ totally undid what little was buildt up, then ROS undid all of that because of the backlash. So in the end . It was all a billion dollar waste of time and not a single scene or movie that included all the og characters

@BK Beatty No. He is a hack. He has exactly two tools. Mystery boxes and special effects. Mystery boxes are shit in almost all cases and his special effects get boring very quickly. I can literally think of no director who has been handed franchises and has consistently ruined them more than JJ. Further, I can't think of a movie of his that I thought was *decent*, let alone good. I grew up on Star Wars and Star Trek, if there was ever a series that I was going to go into a theatre expecting to enjoy a movie, it would have been those. Without exception, I have always left JJ's movies thinking they were terrible.

@BK Beatty No, it isn't a writing issue, it is a JJ issue. He himself has gone on about mystery boxes and how he uses them in every movie he directs. He is good at making crap movies. He is awful at everything else.

"Do you think that they planned to bring Snoke back and reveal that Rey is Leia's daughter, but then Carrie died and they couldn't meaningfully resolve this plotline so they brought back their only option for significant lineage - Palpatine?" Yes. 100%. I think that is exactly why they changed it. And it's stupid as sh*t.

Why exactly couldn't they get Mark Hamill to help resolve the issue in place of Carrie Fisher's death? They would still be blood relatives and clearly Mark Hamill wants to play a mentor role instead of being shoved aside.

3 hours ago lol. Hey man.

Episode 13?

So JJ is even more of a hack who didn't want to do anything Lucas set up

True, though the thing is Snoke wasn't fleshed out in the prequels, he was only name dropped. Other than the fact that he can cheat death, Snoke was a blank slate, so it's possible JJ was comfortable with using Snoke's character because it likely wouldn't have caused a controversy, especially considering he wrote snoke to be unknown and vague in The Force Awakens, leaving future directors to come up with a more definitive version of the character, therefore decreasing the chances of himself getting any backlash.

@@t6kr958Snoke wasn't fleshed out in the prequels? Do you mean plagieus?

@@Jiub_SN Yeah my comment was referring to the idea of snoke being plagues

@@t6kr958 You kind of understand by the Opera discussion alone imo, that Plagueis was a conniving and manipulative SOB just like Sidious, but, completely contrary to Sidious, was really a zealot of the Siths and faithful as much as he could to their present doctrines, what he did he mostly did for the well being of the Sith dynasty and his traditional hatred of the Jedi, whereas Sidious who became something like of a litteral embodiment of their beliefs, was only thinking about *POWEEEEEEER, UN-LI-MITED POWEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRR* . You get that from the fact he killed his Master before even being able to start of dreaming of understanding Plagueis and his field of research. He wanted to win not in principle, not knowing what power meant as an absolute, but solely to win, whatever that meant, crippling all others as the only mean to attain that was not a problem for him. Becoming an old hideous grandpa, never really fighting outright, be it with words or sabers, or never actively showing dominance were not problems, he only wanted to be the most powerful being, whatever being surrounded by weakness in others or himself meant. About the meaning of their names Plagueis spread the plague through the galaxy until he was bit by bit eaten by it (his growing blindness towards his apprentice's taste for politics), whereas Sidious insidiously took great care of it, for all of his days until it insidiously took him from the inside. On that last point you could draw a parallel to Gollum falling willingly into the lava inside Mt Doom to catch the one ring. I believe he did believe and even knew Anakin was the one from the prophecy, and revelled in what he thought was the delightful mockery of fate and prophecy he was orchestrating, until it killed him ; as swiftly and ridiculously as if that semblance of a powerful man was taken by a simple flu.

@@bilbobaggins9451 I don't get why people these days refuse to let stories end. Every story that was ever told had to have an end. That's just how it works. This necessity of never letting things die is something sickly and disturbing (I figure it must stem from modern man's fright and cowardice towards death), and used by corporations to keep squeezing IPs for all the money they can get.

You didn't miss much

@@servus_incognitus Star Wars had an ending. Or two, depending on the way you look at it. Everything that came after was fan fiction as far as I'm concerned

Both characters are also equally robotic!

Disney is BASED

@@teamtundra2619Disney is CRINGE

@@Jiub_SN Disney is BASED

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