FYI the grip frame is the same as the Government just the slide and barrel are shorter!!

Mine has Pacmyer grip, I wish it had a bob tailed main spring .

No front serration, old model

Walther all day everyday. Best striker fired pistol ever made

It’s not a slide release, it’s a slide stop

Score!

I am waiting for my compact to come in. Have heard there have been many problems like light primer strikes, hammer half drops etc. Guess it's less with the compact, but I was looking for a little bit of a project gun.

Nice comparison! I had an Apex trigger in an M&P 2.0, but I parted with both a few years ago. If I ever had a need again, I would certainly consider them. 👍👍

Looks smooth

Fine me one for that price, I got a P10F for $300. Love it, same type of trigger. Good fine.

3y later and im thinking about grabbing the frame to soup up a p320c. Sucks everything from sig is so expensive

GBGuns has a comparison of 4 grip modules. Depending on the use case and if you like a 2011 like grip you may like the Brouwer Solutions m1811. I don't own any of those. The closest I've tried was a p320 compact.

My Sig P320C stock trigger breaks at 5.0lbs and 3.7lbs with the Apex

It's been a while since I've taken my Z320 out. I have the Apex in mine as well, but I changed the grip module to an Icarus. (Love it now). I just can't get the trigger any better, even with an mcarbo kit. Lighter, but travel and reset isn't much of a significant difference. You could also try the Brouwer module. 1911 grip angle and 2x less than the Icarus.

I like the Sig better as a firearm. However I guess Apex couldn't do much better on the Sig because of the FCU. Great comparison!

Okay, but 'just a trigger shoe' can make quite a bit of difference.

Recently breaking in an old compact .40 with only a hammer spring change... Was surprised to see this trigger is already comparable to cgw p07... no need to improve anywhere but the reset.

The long slides shoot like a Cadillac rides

Really nice new gun❤

Very nice review! I have a Smith old school snubby, but I like the look and ease to conceal this Kimber. I will be making this purchase. And the tip on Georgia Arms is a nice bonus.

Well I’m grateful you posted this video. I have exactly what’s being described in this video. I purchased my PDP the first week they were released. But have not decided to use it till today. I was waiting to get another holosun 507c for it. Well it took quite a while but I finally was able to get another 507c. So I was doing some KZfaq searching just for kicks and found you video. Thanks for posting it I noticed in your link it states that you get 1 additional 18 round mag. I hope that true because that would be awesome!!!!

Just bought mine for $649 nib.

I like the 4.6 and have thought about purchasing one. Who makes holsters for them? Strong side or appendix.

I have the Walter PDP in the market for the PPG trigger on the PDP is really good

Welcome to the P7 world. I discovered the P7 pistols in 1985 and as a lefty, was attracted to it for the truly full ambi design. As a lefty, it made things more easy for me. When I bought mine it was $459 in Shotgun News. The fatter M13 version was $499. The difference between the grips on the M8 v M13 is substantial. With my smaller hands the choice was obvious. Over the years my Chantilly vintage fat trigger P7M8 has become quite the favorite of H&K P7 geeks. As I learned more about Heckler and Koch I wound up buying a USPc in 45ACP and in stainless steel. Within a year I procured one of the ‘last 500’ which I chose to reduce my wear and tear in my new IF (1985) pistol. The second P7 is dated 2007. (AH date code). Addicted now to the HK company, I chose a P30, quickly followed by the recent release of the VP9., I quickly reserved two VP9s in 2014. Since the P7 is striker fired, I was curious to see how a modern HK striker fired pistol was built. The terrific grips made the VP9 a favorite. I then learned more about the P2000 model, a transitional model for HK between their USP handguns and the more modern design of the VP9s. When opportunities arose, I acquired additional slides and magazines. A VP40 slide and barrel quickly transformed my VP9s into VP40s. The P2000SK I purchased also had several attractive popularity features. With the addition of another P2000SK (subcompact) slide and barrel in 40SW it became a P2000 40. With just another barrel, it became a 357SIG. Even the magazines are shared between a 40 and a 357SIG. I soon discovered that even magazines are quite common across the firearms-a tremendous advantage within HK. And then HK introduced their longer slides, and barrels. So, I had to get a VP9 Match in 9mm with the longer barrel, and made Optically Ready. (Acro). Accuracy wise, the P7 is fairly unmatched, despite its shorter barrel. Benefiting from the longer slide and Match barrel, the VP9 Match is right up there. The USPc is also very accurate. The polygonal rifling (check your pronunciation) is unmatched in the gun world. Yes, the HK pricing is a bit rough on people but you will never lose money on an HK. The P7M8 is one of several pistols on my daily carry list (CCW) but two things work against this. First, it is a very heavy pistol, despite its size. Compared to my P2000SK it is significantly heavier. Second, if I am ever involved in a self defense shooting, law enforcement will undoubtedly hold the P7 in their evidence locker-and due to its value, may end up magically going missing at some time, when it’s time to get it back. Of all my HKs, the model I can afford to lose would be the P2000SK. I so much would like a subcompact VP9 next, for extended carry. Commonality of magazines is a big plus.

Very interesting gun. And I really like the name having grown up during the Space Race and being completely fascinated by it.

The killer Glock!

What happen to ks?

I have this and the P320 and flip flop back and forth between the two for my EDC.

old classic hipower anyday

It's good. They're rolling for $400,$500 new, and it's got a great trigger, but I don't know if used how long the parts are good for.Good luck

Where did you find this tungsten grey color? Nice review!

The Sig is way more reliable than a 1911. Is 1911 reliable sure but not compared to an Sig p220 or even a Glock for example.

Very nice. I've been interested in these for a while. I've heard there have been issues, but some of these Guntubers have been a little unfair about LFA. But I love what they did to the Gun Collective, sending one of their pistols with CNCed penises on it as a gift to the channel. Epic.. LMAO I think you did a great review, giving them the justice they earned. That's a really nice USA made 2011 for around a grand. It's no Staccato, but it also costs 1/3 of one.

Looks like the plunger tube is integrated in the frame and not a seperate part

Are the internal parts in the axg classic and regular p320 the same? Also are the magazines interchangeable betweel them

About 10 off these for sale here in Denmark ,3 almost like new,and one in a raw look,all the blueing has been removed ,so it'd very gray.

It’s a poor mechanic that blames his tools

Seems since their release they haven't generated much news. It is a crowded very crowded market so hard to make your brand stand out. I think a big name needs to be signed to use them in order to draw some real attention and gain trust. Thanks for the review.

Beautiful firearm. I looked at their web page and it seems they no longer make these. Kinda makes sense being this wonderful pistol didn’t catch on in the US.

I share the same feeling, it’s a carry gun. Not the most comfortable gun to shoot, but it will get you out of a situation. Range gun is one of those guns that just shoots comfortable.

Thank you for this quality review! I have been unable to find one in my local area (yet); however, this video has given me plenty of data to continue to be interested in this unique and economical offering in this pistol category. 👍👍

Man those red wood ones are the ones that come on that gun stock, and they’re definitely the best looking choice in my opinion. The other two have advantages as well.

Got mine for $1150 and luv it! Heard the same arguments when I bought my Harley 23 years ago, luv it too!! Bottom line is I'm gonna keep it, carry it, and show it off so it was worth it to me. If it's not worth it to you, that's okay too!

Do they have to call it after greek deities like other companies or do they use space ships? I like short beaver tail and the grip. How is the tear down? Paperclip? Did you feel the 'innovative recoil reduction system'? Bull barrel makes sense on the shorter barrel, having less room for a bushing. The turn around time is amazing. EDIT: If you look over 1911/2011s try the grip safety when you show the trigger.

I know these guys make legit belts for sure. Its is nice to see your 6 yr old belts still working and in use. The finish getting worn a bit would happen with every buckles over 6 years use.

Mine has been good thus far, although I don't have too many rounds through it. The grip feels cheap to me, so I'm looking into changing it. It's an attractive design at a good price, and that's what initially piqued my interest. I do think with a few upgrades, it could be a pretty nice doublestack 1911. There's a new one recently released with some upgrades that might be worth looking into. Good as always, brother. God bless you.👍

I’m pretty sure that’s not the 4.9” but actually the compact 4.15” version

Great video. It looks like the front locking block pin in front of the takedown lever is missing in the video. U can see light through the pin hole a couple times in the video about 3 minutes into your video. Roll Pins walking out of the Dagger was a big issue with the guns initially.