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@beckysanders2935 5 сағат бұрын
The world says death is a natural part of life, but as a Christian I know it was never meant to happen, I think this is part of the reason it hurts so badly when we lose a loved one, death isn’t natural or normal. King Jesus conquered death, and now we are not permanently separated from our Father.
@R9500pro1 20 сағат бұрын
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@bbenkert Күн бұрын
Hey Joel. My wife and I were just listening to your book The Hidden Peace. We were caught off guard by the testimony in chapter 2. Our son is 4 and we are living that out right now. We've had all the same experiences and have felt the fear and the peace of God in those moments. It's not been easy but there has been peace. Thank you for sharing about that. My wife and I were literally crying listening to you tell the moments that we have experienced with our son Joshua. I'm trying not to spoil the book here in the comments. We've never heard anyone else share that they had the same experiences. We are just kinda reeling ourselves in after listening. Our faith has grown in this season and even led us deeper into ministry roles. God has been so good in the midst of the trials. We still don't know how things will play out but we've seen the Lord move in this.
@geniecastellino9289 Күн бұрын
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@fediplomat Күн бұрын
It kills me how we think Jesus went to hell when it clearly says hades and they are two different places
@Zawaito 3 күн бұрын
So, the so called feast of the gods was a festival in the name of Dionysus back in ancient greece, where they would eat, drink damce around etc. Then come along christianity. You guys have to understand that before christianity, the religion of rome was that of greece, aside from some minor differences. In the process of converting the nations under the roman empire, many stories of the roman mythos were adapted to christianity. This is a common practice, take for example the "saint'ification" of the deities from african religions during slavery. So now we have a major religion that assimilated countless stories as a tactic to make itself more digestible. Then comes the Renaissance and the "Last Supper", based on one of the christian stories that may or may not have been assimilated from elsewhere during the expansion period. The Renaissance btw was a period that took heavy inspiration from greek art and stories. Then, 200 or so years later another painting is made about that old festival, taking clear inspiration from the last supper painting because that's what art is about So, now you have an old tradition being "revived" by a portrayal that takes inspiration from a pretty significant religious painting. So when they made the research for that stage performance, guess what visual they had for it? (Also, interesting fact: the person with a halo in the performance is apollo, who's represente with a halo in the painting because he's the god of the sun.)
@Thrashyourhead 3 күн бұрын
A maverick isn't a type of horse. A maverick is any animal that doesn't carry a brand aka aren't controlled or owned.
@andyjefferson2319 3 күн бұрын
You didn't even look up the right stuff......he was a good of satire.......... like your god
@lizzibriggsriesco7604 4 күн бұрын
The phrase "a jezebel spirit in our church" was thrown out in the gossip line in our church. But it was directed toward some of the male leadership. (I am married to a man in this leadership) I'm trying to make sense of the accusation in this context. I really have no idea what was meant by it though I know we have DEEP problems with the person who is accusing. Help anyone?
@GLENHARTSHAMAN 5 күн бұрын
Le Festin des Dieux ("The Feast of the Gods") is a painting by the Dutch painter Jan van Bijlert, created around 1635-1640. It is in the Musée Magnin in Dijon, France.
@ke5udy 5 күн бұрын
Hey Joel I just ran across one of your podcasts on blurry creatures and even though I just started the chronological reading, I’m excited to get started on it.
@dallas1891 6 күн бұрын
Or humanity is broken based on your broken image of god. yeah, that's definitely what i'm going with
@codiaubuchont4775 6 күн бұрын
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@wavezofhope 6 күн бұрын
The desire to be led and or worship is so strong in our nature that instead of turning to the living God, we rather have someone, we deem fit, to rule over us. Our current times are no different…society is trenched in rallying behind a “savior” figure to give them what they desire, but it always falls short. True freedom & purpose can only be found in our loving creator.
@suzanneolden 7 күн бұрын
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@cindylou3404 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for your wisdom. It's difficult to find sound teachings. I'm homebound and always hungry for great lessons like this to edify my spirit. 😊
@StephSario 7 күн бұрын
Words matter. Thank you for clarifying this and explaining why it matters. This made me think of the pantheistic view of tolerance that is so present nowadays. We are all made in the image and likeness of God and we as believers are to uphold the worth of all humans, yes, but not the sin. Worth and actions are separate...that's the distinction right?
@idkyou370 8 күн бұрын
IF ANYTHING THERE SHOWING U ITS THE SAME DAM THING MEANING RELIGION IS FAKE ALL CAME FROM SOMETHING BEFORE IT LMAO 😂😂😂😂🙃(bunch of sheep could never be illuminated you free but your mind is a slave )
@chrisjudge-wm9hs 10 күн бұрын
It shows the new age cult behind the scenes. They have the gnosis. We do not.
@nickwasilopoulos6358 10 күн бұрын
If you have to find the last supper by typing ‘Jesus eating at a table’ I immediately can not trust your opinion anymore, I am sorry 😂
@user-jy9yt7sm6x 11 күн бұрын
Love listening to you teach the word. Thank you!
@cheshireket3132 11 күн бұрын
The olympics are of Greek origin. That was represented. As a Pagan myself, i didnt expect to be represented. Im happy to be remembered, despite how so many want to erase me. Praise be Dionysus! And blessings to you, religious bretheren. This channel popped up when i was trying to find the performance on youtube. Im getting inspiration for a small Dionysea i plan to hold next year and am using the olympics as a visual inspiration.
@cheshireket3132 10 күн бұрын
@Brian-Ahavah I'm not a hedonist. You do know Dionysus is the god of theater, wine, and merriment, right? The god of sex is Himeros
@cheshireket3132 10 күн бұрын
@Brian-Ahavah Dionyisus is more than about sensual and sexual self indulgence. He is not the god of sex. Maybe you should do some research before you repeat misinformation.
@cheshireket3132 10 күн бұрын
@Brian-Ahavah I don't have a sinful nature. Christianity is not the default. Others exist. Do you have anything to actually say, or is this just you throwing stones and hiding your hand. You use the word Hedonism and then try to pretend I'm the one talking about sex. Can't make this shit up. You're that mad, huh.
@cheshireket3132 10 күн бұрын
@Brian-Ahavah the dictionary definition. I don't make my own. And Dionysus is a conversation about so much more. The whole "everyone is terrible and sinful by nature and christianity is the only right thing" works for you. And that's great for you! Others exist and we have as much faith as you do. I'd say we have more. Considering that we have survived despite the loving attempts to wipe us out. Being a minority religion gets tricky. The majority isn't very: kind. Loving. Accepting. Understanding. I'd recommend reading more on Baccus and what he stood for. If you don't believe "demons" come through pages, that is. If you do, avoid it. Wouldn't wanna scare you.
@MasterBlaster-ri5ms 10 күн бұрын
Very based. Even in the book of lies there exists some truth however. You are throwing pearls to swine right now and these people wouldn’t get it. They think everything that exists outside of their desert cult is evil baby eating orgy rituals.
@bbenkert 11 күн бұрын
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@Kosti2332 11 күн бұрын
They just showed perfectly what they believe in: God for them is dead and was replaced and is being replaced by hedonism and gluttony
@cheshireket3132 10 күн бұрын
Other religions and cultures exist. Sorry it upset you. You being upset doesn't mean we all have to bow to your beliefs. I was going to fact check you on your comment, but facts don't matter when ppl have feelings. So carry on.
@Duckcommand420 12 күн бұрын
Yes Christianity is full of idiots your god is the weakest of all the gods in history. The world is done with Christianity and is leaving the death blood cult behind and it is a beautiful thing!
@bbenkert 12 күн бұрын
So it's August of 2024 and I'm just now seeing this video. Maybe I just jump in where you are or start at the beginning? I'm not sure.
@iericnierman 12 күн бұрын
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@someguy5261 13 күн бұрын
I think I might be having a stroke.
@y2shuproblem 13 күн бұрын
This was the Feast of Dionysus
@cerber991 12 күн бұрын
@y2shuproblem the director claimed its the Feast of the Gods, which is a protestant parody of Da Vinci. The DJ "Apollo" has posted and reposted statements like "the new gay Testament" and "I am the Olympic Jesus"
@Zawaito 3 күн бұрын
@@cerber991 of course it would be perceived as a parody of da Vinci's work, but its just an homage to an old festival
@cerber991 2 күн бұрын
@Zawaito wordplay doesn't take away that people's faith was mocked and they are annoyed.this shouldn't be a question even.
@Zawaito 2 күн бұрын
@@cerber991 if you want to interpret it as mockery, go ahead. I explained the whole shit in another comment so i wont do it again.
@cerber991 2 күн бұрын
@Zawaito it is objectively a mockery and they know it and have posted so. Your bias is irrelevant
@beckysanders2935 13 күн бұрын
Jesus told us these things will take place and it’s easy to become Luke warm with what is taking place in the world. I don’t find Christian’s overreacting but we do need to keep our lamps filled with oil, and remind each other daily that God’s plan to restore us is falling in to place!
@beckysanders2935 13 күн бұрын
Wow!
@loriturner609 13 күн бұрын
Conflation - I thought so too. I looked at all of the Dionysus paintings I could find and none of them had 12 figures gathered with a Christ-figure in the center. I cannot imagine how Jolly can claim this was unintentional.
@runenorderhaug7646 11 күн бұрын
Most of the last supper painting dont have exactily 12 either tbh if you actually count though there wasnt actually exactily 12 in the art piece itself. In fact even the halo itself only appears in later additions of the last supper partly because it was more associated with Renaissance style depections of gods. Tough christisns first used it in the 4th century and orthodox paintings often utilizing that, it was prior to that associated with the different greek gods including apollo as well as different heros. Also en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Festin_des_dieux Is the one mist are trying to refer to. In the end though, checking in with how my relatives in norway felt, this feels less like a christian issue as it does an american issue
@wilsonalencar3696 13 күн бұрын
Thank u brother. I think when jesus spoke that jezebel woman, he didn't mean that was the spirit of jezebel the queen who was married to that Jewish king. But it is possible that the same entity or entities that dominated that first jezebel did the same for the woman in Revelation. And it continues to do so. I would say that the main traits are manipulation through sex of the partner, disregarding of sexual morality in general, spiritual prostitution like , the person will be idolatry to everything that mighty bring benefit or compensation.
@rachelmendez5789 13 күн бұрын
Why is it so hard to believe the woman in Revelation was actually named Jezebel? I'm asking unironically. I know a real Jezebel. She's a lovely 70-year-old French woman who loves Jesus and just has an unfortunate name. There have been parents giving children unfortunate names since time began. I know the argument is 'Revelation is just symbolism', but seriously. The woman could be legit named Jezebel.
@briankelleher2156 14 күн бұрын
Are you serious? Do yo actually believe in Adam and Eve? They had two sons apparently. Where did the next generation come from ? Incest?
@SkiffoniusDankour 14 күн бұрын
Nephilim descended mystery religions & bloodline elites gonna ritual.
@dianeeaton9554 14 күн бұрын
May this message be a healing balm for the many women who have experienced shaming abuse by the label "Jezebel Spirit".
@brianprice2350 14 күн бұрын
I was taught that the Jezebel spirit started with the King of the Babylon Empire Nimrod, by him marrying his mother Semiramis, and having children with her, this pasted this Jezebel spirit down the generations. If you marry your mother then your mother is going to tell you what to do, or rule over you, and this is what it means to have a Jezebel spirit, which is a woman trying to rule over or boss a man.
@KPsTboy 14 күн бұрын
Thank you, sir.
@Samot0423 15 күн бұрын
Honestly the big argument for me against Last supper is the number: 12 disciples and jesus. It has to be that number, because thats incredibly significant. In the olympics, there were 17
@winzyl9546 14 күн бұрын
Exactly, typical zealots overreacting over everything.
@JohnVander70 14 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@orexgabriel2448 13 күн бұрын
or just a tactic to excuse themselves from critics. The setting more closely resembles the last supper than the feast of gods.
@Samot0423 13 күн бұрын
@@orexgabriel2448 because of the people dancing around the table? Or the arrangement of the people? Or is it the big blue naked dude that reminds you more of the last supper than the feast of the gods?
@orexgabriel2448 13 күн бұрын
@@Samot0423 the arrangement of people.
@JohnnyProctor9 15 күн бұрын
I think that Christianity needs to stop ripping off the Greeks if they don't want Pagan festivals to resemble their artistic media...
@aaronvarghese1363 15 күн бұрын
drag shitshow has got nothing to do with olympics ......... period.
@Anti2790 14 күн бұрын
The feast of the gods painting was painted nearly 200 years after last supper. Where are you getting christians ripping off the greeks from?
@JohnnyProctor9 14 күн бұрын
@Anti2790 - I'm not saying that the painting was the ripoff, but most of the folklore and festivals and such were ripped off from ancient Greek and the beliefs of other Pagan cultures...
@cerber991 14 күн бұрын
@@JohnnyProctor9 The arrangement is sourced by Da Vinci's depiction and not by Greek mythology or symbolism. The latter protestant van Bijlert's painting is recreating the former one resembling deep catholic symbolism, which the protestants denied.
@Nightlight17 15 күн бұрын
Christians you were wrong on this one. It’s okay. This had nothing to do with the Last Supper nor a conflation of two paintings. This was their interpretation of the Feast of the Gods painting. The artistic director has come out and even shown videos of them coming up with this idea and its inspiration prior to the event. It had nothing to do with Christianity. You can’t be “prideful”. Remember that is a sin.
@aaronvarghese1363 15 күн бұрын
another woke disease
@cerber991 14 күн бұрын
Except the "Apollo/Jesus" DJ posted the initial pic before Dyonisus took the spot in the middle with the text- The new gay testament. Gaslighting Christians and playing it off as misinterpretation is just cruel. The officials of the Olympic games stated it's the christian reference. The Feast of The gods itself is a protestant-painted mockery of deep catholic meaning. I'm not religious, yet gotta correct ignorant posts aiding manipulation.
@Nightlight17 14 күн бұрын
@@cerber991 “I’m not religious, yet gotta correct ignorant posts aiding manipulation”…ironically that’s exactly what you just did. Made an ignorant post aiding in manipulation. First off, the DJ didn’t post that pic before Dionysus took the spot in the middle. She posted that after the ceremony once she heard the backlash from Christians to which I believe was intentional to make them even more upset. And yes, I felt that that was distasteful. As far as the Feast of gods painting being a Protestant painting mockery of deep catholic meaning…Huh??? What does that even mean? It’s just a painting that’s no different in design than most paintings during that period. It has no relation to the Christian faith.
@cerber991 14 күн бұрын
@Nightlight17 she deleted it due to backlash. I didn't claim when she posted it, so you're strawmanning me. She can't post a pic during a live performance, true. Never stated otherwise- another strawman. Look up the two main differences between catholics and protestants. One of them is symbolism present in Da Vinci's work. It is THE Christian depiction and showing other gods in this way is a direct reference, yet of an old pantheon. It also serves no purpose to replicate art depicting a wedding, and a scorned Eris and Dyonisos in the middle, who is a God of feasts and debauchery, yet the Olympic games are dedicated to Zeus. The intent is clearly stated, but you choose to aid deception that makes no sense.
@cerber991 14 күн бұрын
@Nightlight17 and to clarify what you willingly wrongly misquoted- the DJ posted the pic showing the reference to The Last Supper, which is before the dyonisos actor was placed in the middle, to supposedly refer to the mockery art. You can see her post and get that, or you can draw a false narrative of what I wrote.
@jakemoore5064 15 күн бұрын
Christian’s are so convinced they must be a victim at all times. The boiling water you’re in is the water everyone else is in, but you feeling like a victim allows them to control you even easier.
@orexgabriel2448 15 күн бұрын
Olympics were dedicated to Zeus, not to Dionysus.
@cahdesosabakota795 15 күн бұрын
True but Dionysus is still one of the Gods in Greece Mythology
@lordoftheflies7024 14 күн бұрын
But Dionysus was SPECIFICALLY a deity of festivities, and this IS a festivity lmao
@orexgabriel2448 14 күн бұрын
@@lordoftheflies7024 It was an Olympic Games opening ceremony. The games were dedicated to Zeus and he does not even appear in the setup nor is referred anywhere. But in our post-modern society nobody cares for such details - everything goes.
@lordoftheflies7024 14 күн бұрын
@@orexgabriel2448 Im sorry, but are u criticizing them for not having honored Zeus instead? If they had done that there would still be outrage. They essentially honored the wrong guy but for reasons they thought were correct (festivities) but still didn't dishonor the last supper as that wasn't their intention. And u admitted that.
@lordoftheflies7024 14 күн бұрын
@@orexgabriel2448part 2 Ur essentially saying they did dishonor the last supper because they didn't to a T properly honor Zeus....are u serious? They paid HOMAGE to the Greek traditions. It's not meant to be done 100% exactly as it was in their times. A homage is supposed to to be a loose interpretation, not an exact recreation of the event. In the end, even if it was historically inaccurate, their intention WAS to honor the Greek tradition and not smear the last supper. Sadly nobody cares for such levels of nuance.
@carsondubs 15 күн бұрын
I think this video is an exemplar of Christian self-importance; seeing a portrayal and celebration of a completely different religion and thinking that it's actually a backhanded attack against you because, wouldn't you know it, eating is a large part of more than one religion. And it's frankly disgusting to try to conflate the widespread child abuse in churches to what is, at best, a lukewarm criticism of Christianity. You claim both are important but you've already made multiple videos on this topic that's already being talked about to death, and as far as I can tell you haven't made ONE video discussing any of the countless horrific acts of abuse committed in your churches. You are one of the few Christian channels that are even comfortable talking about things like that when so many others would rather sweep it under the rug. I beg that you spend more time educating your followers on actually *important* things that are going on and how they can help.
@Dominicus13 15 күн бұрын
The moment your enemy can claim to be one of you and thought to be equal to you by the general public, you have already lost. Christians are defined in the Holy Scriptures as those who not only call Jesus Lord, but accordingly follow his commands. While it is true that Christians do stumble, that is not the same as "countless horrific acts of abuse." You don't get to point at someone who has infiltrated a church and is clearly not a Christian and say that they are. You also don't get to pretend that Christians are supposed to police our own while using the strong arm of the government to ENSURE that we CAN'T police our own. While I feel for everyone that has been abused, whether by a pretend Christian or anyone else, I can only deal with those whom I interact with and the same is true for every other Christian. Most people in the Western Church don't even read their own holy book anymore and have convinced others that being a Christian is showing up to a building once a week and performing certain prayers. This is a lie from the pit of hell. It is dangerous to both those within and those without the church. The minute we stop judging individuals and start trying to lump each other into categories based on race or religion we will end up with another tragedy like the one that started on September 1, 1939.
@PhycoKrusk 14 күн бұрын
Dude, _what_ are you talking about? There was nothing backhanded about it, and we know there was nothing backhanded about it because the woman who choreographed it said so. As to the rest, it has already been discussed endlessly by everybody. There is nothing more to be added. Unless you know of something that hasn't been discussed already. If that's the case, let us know so we can discuss it.
@vastijackson4545 15 күн бұрын
Understand one thing: The Last Supper was painted in 1493, and the Feast of the Gods was painted two hundred years later. And when The Feast of the Gods was brought to the public for the first time around 1632, it was immediately considered a mockery to Christianity.
@cahdesosabakota795 15 күн бұрын
You know, Christians often believe they are the center of the universe and that everything revolves around them, but in reality, it doesn't
@alwagner9722 14 күн бұрын
Touche!
@lordoftheflies7024 14 күн бұрын
Understand another, Dionysus was worshipped before ur savior....so?
@cerber991 14 күн бұрын
@@lordoftheflies7024 The imagerry was copying The Last Supper, the following art and second arrangement with the blue "Dyonisos" was following art mocking The Last Supper. The "Apollo" DJ in the middle posted the initial picture as "The new Gay Testament". They clearly wanted to provoke, but when the consequences are significant, they try to pretend they didn't intend it. Don't aid gaslighting.
@lordoftheflies7024 14 күн бұрын
@@cerber991 Ugh, no, the imagery was copying Fantasia, Feast of the Gods. 'dionysus, who is commonly depicted as blue and scantily dressed, was actually mocking my savior even though the guy looked nothing like him and looked much more like a debauched Greek deity' Ok, citation needed. "They provoked!" Yea ...but not by mocking the last supper. There weren't even 12 people there! They were holding their hands in the air in the EXACT SAME WAY the Fantasia painting's characters were.
@bbenkert 16 күн бұрын
What ESV Bible is that? Is it a wide margin?
@unshakablewarrior 16 күн бұрын
Yes! Agreed!
@NativeinCO 16 күн бұрын
I'm thinking that to even entertain that they knew what they were doing is being generous? Someone please tell them their demons are killing them. Let it not be too late.
@artgirlmermaid 16 күн бұрын
God is allowing satan to expose himself on the world stage. Doesn't matter if it's a parody of the Last Supper or replicating the feast of the gods with drag queens and children... satan's hand is behind it, either way it's disgraceful.