Since I learned clock notation only 4 years after I started solving the puzzle, I am probably not qualified to answer that question... Although I remember that it took me a lot more time to scramble the puzzle than solving it when I first started following scrambles. If you feel like it takes you too much time to the point where your practice sessions become unpleasant or frustrating, hand-scrambles are perfectly fine when you start so that you spend more time solving than scrambling, but eventually following scrambles pays off since it gives you the opportunity to practice your accuracy. I hope this helps! 😊

Thanks! One more thing, how do I improve? I used the normal beginners method and average about 27, but when I switched to your op method, I now average 11. But how do I break thru the sub 10 barrier?

I may make 12 gigaminx force cubes, but I would never organize competitions...🙂🙃🙂🙃

Un cadeau bien mérité! 🤗

Just a 2-day training camp to get hired in a cube factory... 😊

Merci Maxence!

Perhaps Quebec's greatest speedcuber could become a comp organizer too...I would love to see a competition in the Eastern Townships! 😉

Are you currently using standard flip? For your practice volume, I do believe it could take you a week to get used to the method and get the same global average (I know someone who was averaging around 6.0 with standard flip who started getting averages sub 5.7 after only two days trying the method...). Then, to give you an idea of what your progress could look like based on mine, at the end of this summer I decided to practice for a month doing 100 solves per day and I went from averaging 6.0 to 5.5 and it took me three additionnal months with 40-50 solves per day to reach 5.0 global. Note that taking full advantage of lucky cases (third pdf in the description) is probably required to reach sub 6 though (you are going to have to practice pin order modifications by solving a scramble with a particular lucky case over and over until you get times close to your average for example). I hope this is helpful! 😊

@@gabriellemorasse694 Yeah, I'm using flip. I learned some lucky cases but I never found a pdf or something with all of them, so I'll check yours. And yes, this was super helpful, thanks A LOT (If I average sub 6 I will be NR holder😀)

UPDATE: Hi! It's me again😅 I have mained clock for a copule of months now, and all of my hard work has finally paid off. I average mid 5 and also I am national champion this year. I still use standard flip with a lot of tricks and I can flip in a variety of ways now. I try to improve my solutions for them to be more efficient. I sometimes fail comps, but honestly it's ok and in August I have another national championship in my country and I hope I win...

Since I have never heard about 10mm before, I don't have enough knowledge to fully answer your question, but of course, adding simultaneous moves will make it more efficient. 🙃 You could execute the first two moves of this method on the front side, then match the remaining edges together and make the latter point to twelve and flip with one move left on the first side that could be done simultaneously when matching the last corner on the second face for example. From my standpoint, adding simultaneous moves could be a disadvantage when it comes to lucky cases and makes solving clock less creative/even more repetitive than it already is, but this is a great idea if you want to reduce your move count while still limiting the amount of information to memorize in inspection! 😊

@@gabriellemorasse694 10 move memoless is really cool. You solve cross plus one corner before you flip, but you don't align them. Then, on the other side, you can use simul moves as long as they don't break the progress you made on the back- so they're used to solve the rest of the corners as you build and align the second cross. I've been trying this hybrid method out, I'm calling it the foxgirl flip, and it seems to have some real potential!

What a quick progress! 🙃I am glad it helped you improve!

Today I improved again. My PB is now 10.40 sec. Going strong, thanx! @@gabriellemorasse694

Thank you for asking, I already thought about making a video on lucky cases, but I wasn't too sure if it was going to be useful. Unfortunately, I currently don't have enough time to work on it, but I might be able to do so by June 2024... 😬 In the meantime, my best advice is to learn both standard and left-handed pin order (pdfs in the description) and decide for steps 2-3-5-7-8 which pin order makes you take full advantage of the lucky case(s) for a particular scramble (you can switch from right-handed to left handed pin order many times in a solve). I have a detailed example for two adjacent edge clocks at the same hour under Oxzowachi Alt's comment in the comment section of this video. I hope this is helpful...🙃

@@gabriellemorasse694 thank you very much Gabrielle, I will try it out!🙈

@@lscuber854 I just added a pdf in the description with my pin order and positioning for most common lucky cases + some combinations just for you...😉Learning all those cases will require more practice time to become comfortable with pin order modifications (you can solve the same scramble with a particular lucky case and positioning over and over again until you get times close to your global average), but if you want to become sub 6 and beyond, I believe it is worth it; I hope this is helpful! ☺

@@gabriellemorasse694 Omg, thank you very much Gabrielle. I really appreciate your effort. Not all heros wear capes 🥹😭😭💛

Wishing you the best of luck and excited to see your future official results! ☺

Great strategies!!!

Thank you! Big disappointments can happen to everyone, from first-timers to experienced cubers...😉 I believe there are many adult cubers who are ashamed to have strong emotions when it comes to something as frivolous (at least on the surface) as cubing competitions, but it is perfectly normal! I am very pleased to hear it was helpful and I hope you will figure out what works best for you in a competition setting! 😊

Thank you for your kind words! I am glad you found it interesting! ☺

What an honour! 🙃It just so happens that I am talking about Jack Chicoine @quebecuber2458 towards the end of the video... He is clearly amazing enough to aim for NR, not me 😉 Glad the OP tutorial was useful!

Thank you for sticking with it! I am excited to see your progress in the months to come! 😄

Thank you! Congrats on your very impressive results for a first-timer in Winchester! Are you planning to add clock to your WCA profile? 😉 I hope we will have the opportunity to see each other again somewhere in New England! 👋

@@gabriellemorasse694 I hope I can add clock to my WCA profile in the future. Hope to see you soon!

Thank you! If you keep up the great work, I am pretty confident you will not have to worry about those cutoff times anymore...😉

Thanks for learning OP, I hope it is going to be worth it! Getting a QiYi clock is definitely another way to become faster without practicing... Good luck on your ''speedclocking'' journey! 😉

@@gabriellemorasse694 thanks! i experimented at clock for the past 9 hours and got really good at it with op. maybe i can lube the shengshou?

Welcome to the world of clock! 😉Hopefully, this method will help you achieve your goals!

Here is the standard method for clock on Stefan Pochmann's website: www.stefan-pochmann.info/spocc/speedsolving/clock/ Thanks for watching! 😊

There is an additional shelf hidden and many cubes lent to acquaintances, but most of it is visible in the background... 🤭

@@gabriellemorasse694 Lent to acquaintances? That's so cool😊. Btw I don't know anything about clock😁. Cause I haven't tried one. But it looks like you have almost all the puzzles on the shelf well polished. Why don't you just make a video with other cubes also! Do you practice only clock? What's your 3x3 avg? ...... And what's that ( 0:05 ) fancy sign mean?

@@hiddencuber2250 Thank you for the video idea! If only I had something interesting to say about all those puzzles... 😅I am clearly not the most dedicated cuber out there, but I like to practice 7x7, 3bld and clock every now and then.😊What about you?

@@gabriellemorasse694 Thanks for your reply too 😊.Well, am not a dedicated cuber also. It all started in a curiosity. Am just keeping 3x3 as a hobby. And I'm really interested in 3bld, but i realised there are a lot of commutators to learn.. so i just slowed down. What's your 3bld avg?

Great to see a very good "clocker" trying it out, thank you! ☺

If this works, I will be more than happy for you! 🤩🇳🇵💪

That's unfortunate, do you remember what happened? 😛

@@gabriellemorasse694 chop and touched after stopped timer by accident

OhIO-verestimated the judge's clemency... ;)

I hope switching to optimized Pochmann will pay off soon! Thanks for trying it out, and all the best for your next competition! 🤩

​@@gabriellemorasse694 It definitely worked! Glad to let you know that with barely practicing clock I got a 7.38 average and 6.48 single officially which is good for me! I would've never gotten those times if I didn't see this tutorial. Thank you. I will probably switch to 7 simul now though.

@@notanonymousperson Congratulations and thank you for the update! Good luck with 7 simul! 🤩🤩

Thank you! I'm excited to see your future competition results! 😊

I am glad you found it interesting! Hopefully, this small difference will turn out to be useful... 😄

Thank you, @@gabriellemorasse694, it will be!! I got my first sub-10 single in comp today and am ready to implement new shortcuts for next time! :)

I hope this will help you achieve your goals, best of luck for your upcoming competition! 😀

Simultaneous turns can be tricky at first (when I invented the method, I was not able to rotate two gears at the same time). But if you start doing slow solves focusing on the first step, I believe you can get comfortable after maybe 100-200 solves for 1-2-3 hour rotations and 300-400 solves to master 4-5-6 hour rotations (I try to avoid these at the back (index finger) as much as possible if they are clockwise (anticlockwise if you follow the steps for left-handed people)). Thanks for showing interest in this method! 😊

I am very pleased to hear that! I hope this helps you get a sub 7 average officially 😊

I guess I should start an interior design KZfaq channel then...😜

It's a Mapuche flag (indigenous group in Chile) 🙂

@@gabriellemorasse694 thank you! I knew I'd seen it somewhere before , it's a wonderful flag!

Very happy to hear you want to practice it, I hope you get great results using this method! 🤓

@@gabriellemorasse694 Thanks :)

Thank you, glad you like it! 😊

@@gabriellemorasse694 update: I've been gravitating away from this method because I cant seem to take advantage of scrambles that would be easy with the normal method; for example, when two adjacent edge clocks are at the same hour. I cant figure out how to preserve cases like these with this method, any tips?

@@OxzowachiAlt The best option is usually to slightly modify the pin order (I recently added a second pdf in the description that could be useful for this). I would suggest putting both edges bottom left or bottom right either at the back after the x2 flip or on the front face. Back bottom-left: same pin order just skipping a step as shown in the lucky cases of the video Back bottom-right: steps 5-7-8 in the first pdf become those for left-handed people (second pdf in the description) Front bottom-left: steps 2 and 3 become the ones for left-handed people Front bottom-right: after step 2, put both right pins out instead of just upper right and then follow steps 5-7-8 for left-handed I hope this is somewhat helpful...

​@@gabriellemorasse694this helps a lot, thanks!

Thank you! Hopefully, you will become faster without too many boring clock practice sessions... 😅

Merci! Bien hâte de voir les performances du grand maître du skewb en appliquant cette méthode ;)

Thank you! Unfortunately, I am not planning to solve cubes underwater in the near future...🙃

@@gabriellemorasse694 Oh okay 😊