In some ways this could be a semantics issue, because I can imagine some would say the invisible church is what Leithart calls the eschatological church

Part 2/2 The problem with Christians today and many factions in the past is that they are under the false impression the world revolves around them. Yes, we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus, but we are also very sinful and our sins have caused immense problems including biblical ignorance around the world. The biggest error is that Christians read Scripture as if it all pertains to them, instead of the world. Christians claim Jesus was the final sacrifice, yes if you receive Him as Lord and Savior. If you are His because of faith in Jesus then there is no need for another sacrifice, but most of the world is not saved and so when things begin to unfold people will come to Jerusalem to worship the GOD of Israel still ignorant that it's Jesus. Revelation 11:1-2 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. ...11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 And [e]they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. 13 In the same hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. In the earthquake seven thousand people were killed, and the rest were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven. Revelation 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth-to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people- 7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” Very few Christians can ever give me an answer of why Scripture says that the everlasting Gospel is "“Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” No mention of Jesus, or forgiveness of sins, etc. Sacrifices will be instituted again because the world will worship the GOD of Israel. Ezekiel 37:21 “Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God. Ezekiel 38:18 “And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” says the Lord God, “that My fury will show in My face. 19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: ‘Surely in that day there shall be a great [e]earthquake in the land of Israel, 20 so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.’ 21 I will call for a sword against Gog throughout all My mountains,” says the Lord God. “Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the Lord.” ’ Will the sacrifices save them? No. But it will cover their sins and as things move along in the timeline the knowledge of Jesus will enter the global human consciousness. First, there is a belief in GOD and then there will be a belief in Jesus. This same principle applies to all in the millennial kingdom who don't believe by faith. Zechariah 14: 16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 20 In that day “HOLINESS TO THE LORD” shall be engraved on the bells of the horses. The pots in the Lord’s house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yes, every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to the Lord of hosts. Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts. When Jesus comes back people will have kids and those kids will grow into adults over the 1000 years to where there will be many who don't believe in who Jesus is. Rev 20: 7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. So after Jesus has reigned for 1000 years with a population of people who are believers needing no sacrifice and non-believers needing a sacrifice to cover their sins. Satan will be released to gather the non-believers who want to go to war against the LORD. Then He will wipe them out and commence Judgment Day. Rev 20: 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where[b] the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. Another mistake Christians have made is that the LORD owns the Land of Israel and the City of Jerusalem. Genesis 15:18 On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying: “To your descendants, I have given this land,..." (Ownership) Leviticus 25:1-2 And the Lord spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai, saying, 2 “Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘When you come into the land which I give you,..." (Ownership) Verse 23 ‘The land shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are strangers and sojourners with Me." ("The land is Mine"- Ownership) The word "Sojourners" means guest, visitor, someone who has no claim of ownership. 2 Chronicles 6:5-6 5 ‘Since the day that I brought My people out of the land of Egypt, I have chosen no city from any tribe of Israel in which to build a house, that My name might be there, nor did I choose any man to be a ruler over My people Israel. 6 Yet I have chosen Jerusalem, that My name may be there, and I have chosen David to be over My people Israel.’ (My Name may be there"- Ownership) Joel 3:1-2 “For behold, in those days and at that time, When I bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will also gather all nations, And bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; And I will enter into judgment with them there On account of My people, My heritage Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; They have also divided up My land. ("My Land"- Ownership) Isaiah 45:3 I will give you the treasures of darkness And hidden riches of secret places, That you may know that I, the Lord, Who call you by your name, Am the God of Israel. 4 For Jacob My servant’s sake, And Israel My elect, I have even called you by your name; I have named you, though you have not known Me. 5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; There is no God besides Me. I will gird you, though you have not known Me," Psalm 121:4 Behold, He who keeps Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. The question as Christians we need to ask ourselves isn't whether we agree with all of Israel's decisions or not. We need to ask "When did the LORD relinquish His claim of ownership over the Land of Israel and the City of Jerusalem?" Answer: NEVER. The second question is why after 1800+ years has the LORD (Owner of the land and Jerusalem) allowed the Jewish people back into the Land? Simple, He said He would. Ezekiel 37:21-23, Jeremiah 24:3-8, Mark 13:28-30. Everything is right on schedule according to Scripture. "All these things must come to pass". It's sad to me how biblically illiterate Christians have become that even before they understand the biblical narrative that is playing out in front of us in real-time, they call it heresy out of ignorance.

Part 1/2 I can appreciate people's various opinions on Eschatology. What I don't particularly like is when someone who is ignorant of the things they claim, then comes to a conclusion like this video does. I am not here to attack this person. I have no clue who he is, but he clearly doesn't understand the topic, which makes it problematic. He's also convinced while not understanding the topic that he's right. We can disagree but he's not well educated on the topic. Just because we have questions that we struggle with doesn't mean that something is false. So did the early Christians talk about dispensational topics? Yes. Now whether or not they are true these ideas did NOT begin with Darby. A rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem AFTER 70AD Barnabas - (First Century) “You can perceive that their hope is vain. Furthermore, the Lord said, ‘Behold, they who destroy this temple, even they will again build it up once more.’ This prophecy was fulfilled because the Jews went to war against their enemy. But even though they are now no more than servants to Rome, they will return and rebuild the temple. It was revealed that the city of Jerusalem, the temple, and the people of Israel were to be given up.” Epistle of Barnabas 16:5-7 Irenaeus (about 180 AD) wrote his 5 volume work called “Against Heresies” “In 2 Thessalonians, the ‘falling away’ is an apostasy and there will be a literal rebuilt temple. In Matthew, the ‘abomination spoken by Daniel’ is the Antichrist sitting in the temple as if he were Christ. The abomination will start in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week and last for a literal three years and six months. The little horn is the Antichrist. Against Heresies 5.25 Hippolytus (170-235AD): On the End of the World A Discourse by the Most Blessed Hippolytus, Bishop and Martyr, on the End of the World, and on Antichrist, and on the Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ. "...And after that he (Antichrist) will build the temple in Jerusalem (notice a literal building), and will restore it again speedily, and give it over to the Jews. And then he will be lifted up in heart against every man; yea, he will speak blasphemy also against God, thinking in his deceit that he shall be king upon the earth hereafter forever; not knowing, miserable wretch, that his kingdom is to be quickly brought to naught, and that he will quickly have to meet the fire which is prepared for him, along with all who trust him and serve him. For when Daniel said, “I shall make my covenant for one week,” Daniel 9:27 he indicated seven years; and the one half of the week is for the preaching of the prophets, and for the other half of the week - that is to say, for three years and a half -Antichrist will reign upon the earth. And after this his kingdom and his glory shall be taken away." Notice in the references to the 70th week of the final 7 years. Irenaeus- The abomination will start in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week and last for a literal three years and six months..." Against Heresies 5:25 Hippolytus- For when Daniel said, “I shall make my covenant for one week,” Daniel 9:27 he indicated seven years; and the one half of the week is for the preaching of the prophets, and for the other half of the week - that is to say, for three years and a half -Antichrist will reign upon the earth. And after this his kingdom and his glory shall be taken away." Hippolytus (170-235 AD) wrote a 67 section/ chapter writing called "The Antichrist - a Treatise on Christ and Antichrist" "Now Daniel will set forth this subject to us. For he says, “And one week will make a covenant with many, and it shall be that in the midst of the week my sacrifice and oblation shall cease.” Daniel 9:27 By one week (7 years), therefore, he meant the last week which is to be at the end of the whole world, of which week the two prophets Enoch and Elias will take up the half (1,260 days = 3.5 years). For they will preach 1,260 days clothed in sackcloth, proclaiming repentance to the people and to all the nations." ...For John says, “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.” Revelation 11:3 That is the half of the week that Daniel spoke about. “These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks standing before the Lord of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire will proceed out of their mouth, and devour their enemies; and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy; and have power over waters, to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will.” Revelation 11:4-6 And when they shall have finished their course and their testimony, what does the prophet say? “the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them,” Revelation 11:7 because they will not give glory to Antichrist. For this is meant by the little horn that grows up. He, being now elated in heart, begins to exalt himself, and to glorify himself as God, persecuting the saints and blaspheming Christ, even as Daniel says, “I considered the horns, and, behold, in the horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things; and he opened his mouth to blaspheme God. And that born made war against the saints, and prevailed against them until the beast was slain, and perished, and his body was given to be burned.” Daniel 7:8 Thousand-year reign of Jesus, Barnabas, AD First Century “Therefore, children, in six days, or in six thousand years, all the prophecies will be fulfilled. Then it says, ‘He rested on the seventh day.’ This signifies at the Second Coming of our Lord Jesus, He will destroy the Antichrist, judge the ungodly, and change the sun, moon, and stars. Then He will truly rest during the Millennial reign, which is the seventh day.” Epistle of Barnabas 15:7-9 Irenaeus 180 AD For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: "Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested upon the seventh day from all His works."(6) This is an account of the things formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years;(7) and in six days created things were completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the sixth thousand year. Against Heresies 5:28 Commodianus, AD 240 “We will be immortal when the six thousand years are completed.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 35 “Resurrection of the body will be when six thousand years are completed, and after the one thousand years, the world will come to an end.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 80 Methodius, AD 290 “In the seventh millennium we will be immortal and truly celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.” Ten Virgins 9.1 Victorinus, AD 240 “Satan will be bound until the thousand years are finished; that is, after the sixth day.” Commentary on Revelation 20.1-3 Justin Martyr (100-165AD) “There will be a literal one-thousand-year reign of Christ.” Justin Martyr, Dialogue 81 Papius First Century (60AD-130AD) “I was taught by the Apostle John, himself, that after the resurrection of the dead, Jesus will personally reign for one thousand years.” Papias, Fragment 6 The Rapture- Church father Irenaeus 180AD wrote “Against Heresies”: “When in the end that church will suddenly be caught up from this, then it is said, ‘There will be tribulation such as not been since the beginning, nor will be.’” Irenaeus “Against Heresies 5.29 Ephrem 373 AD “…because all saints and the elect of the LORD are gathered together before the Tribulation which is about to commence be taken to the LORD…” On the Last Times 2-Ephrem the Syrian 373 AD Lactantius in the second century between 100-200AD in his commentary of the Apocalypse that Rev 6:14 is when "the Church shall be taken away” Victorinus a bishop who lived in 240AD (martyred 304AD) also wrote "And the heaven withdrew as a scroll that is rolled up, for the heaven to be rolled away, that is, the Church shall be taken away. And the mountain and the islands removed from their places..." So as you can see whether we disagree or not these ideas were NOT invented by Darby. (Continued in Part 2).

Careful - it is not a salvation issue - Isnt there enough division in the Body of Christ without adding to it. The Lord commands the blessing where there is unity with the brethren. Division = no blessing. Pre, Mid Post Trib, Pre Mid post rapture, amillenialism, preterist + - take your pic. Again not salvation issues.

Jesuit and Zionists infiltrating the Christians

I agree. Dispensationalism is not exegetical. In some instances it is not even literal despite the claim that it is. Yet, it has two gap theories that are not literally in the text. I think it appeals to some people because it is actually an esoteric theology that has to be taught, and has a secret rapture.

The portion about the equality of believers really resonated with me. I used to be LDS and experienced heavy oppression by those wielding superiority in titles. Your videos elevate God and embolden the listener in Christ, which I greatly appreciate. Too many pollute their sermons and discussions with secular events, personal ideas, vain ambitions, ambiguous direction, or crank eschatology.

Neither is protestantism.

Cumming in the clouds and a bodily Cumming at the end 8:50 Now there's some dispensation

Im guessing with regards to the nicean creed you would allow for the filioque or the lack thereof?

All the Andy Woods bots came out in force lol. What verses can we see on pre or post? I didn’t hear any scripture for either side..

I can’t stand that Calvanist creep MacArthur. The man is dangerous. Jesus repeatedly preached the Kingdom of God and that it was Not of this world

Rich Lusk is most certainly a heretic.

Never heard or Seen ANYONE say that there will be any Sacrifices in the millennial kingdom.

Dispensationalism before Darby: Seventeenth-Century and Eighteenth-Century English Apocalypticism by William C. Watson

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: Collosians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

What an absurd premise/ title.. triggering click bait tripe.. the word dispensation appears in the Bible 4 times. Just read the book, you don’t need Darby or a priest or this guy, you need the Holy Spirit.. believe in different dispensations simply comes from reading the Bible

The fact that Newman had to write Tract 90 proves that the 39 Articles were binding.

Yes John MacArthur's Dispensation Theology is UN-Christian. It denies Christ. It is so wrong.

I cannot more agree. Dispensationalism should be resisted with all that we got. It is another gospel.

I'm just an outsider here with no dog in this fight. Put Orthodox Christianity looks cool. The churches are beautiful. The icons are beautiful, and the priests have the coolest looking robes and not to mention the holy singing. Wow. I love it.

The rapture is going to happen because God said it😅

Dispensation is great 😅

Pretty disingenuous assessment of dispensationalism followed by some heavy condemnation. Still trying to find my way theologically, but definitely sensing a theological echo chamber in this video. What does saving faith have to do with our eschatological views/interpretations? My view is that anyone who teaches the last things with certainty is caught up in their own pride.

All Israel will be saved, that is scripture. Yeshua will rule from Jerusalem, over a saved, Jewish people, with gentiles grafted in. That is what the bible says. Read your bible properly jonah.

Dispensationalism is a true biblical Theology. Please read and divide your Bible righthly. 2.Timothy 2,15 !!!

🤓The death knell of Dispensationalism is inter alia located in the 1917 Scofield "Bible" at Scofield's commentary on John 1:17, to wit: "...As a dispensation, grace begins with the death and resurrection of Christ ... The point of testing is no longer legal obedience as the condition of salvation, but acceptance or rejection of Christ..." but what does God say in Romans 4:8 "...for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness..." hence Abraham was saved by the grace of God through the faith of Jesus Christ [Romans 3:22 LXX] - for the Law was not only given to Moses AFTER Abraham's death [except if you take the 1st law as obedience to God, Gen 2:16&17] but alas there is no salvation but through Jesus Christ - Acts 4:12. And we all know Abe was a sinner; lying and scheming.

Regarding the discussion the begins around the 55:00 mark (roughly): I don’t think the Bible defines things like “perseverance” as meritorious. Merit seems more narrow: “credit” for fulfilling / obeying the law of God. Saving faith is rejecting that, aware of our inability to merit justifying righteousness of out own, and taking hold of the righteousness of Christ alone for our justification. Therefore, to persevere in faith (or to cease to persevere) is not meritorious.

Dispensationalism is hogwash. You'd have to be an inbred dullard to believe it much like the Eternal Security heresy.The next thing you know they'll be worshipping Donald Trump like a Diaper Clad Messiah. Oh, they already are.

The problem though with what you're saying is that you have pick and choose theology. You decide what you like and what you don't like based on your interpretation. I had the opposite experience and though Anglo Catholicism was a cop-out half way house. Didn't want to be Protestants, wanted the sacraments but didn't want to commit to Rome. John Henry Newman jumping ship also helped accelerate my decision to come home to Rome.

Sincere question: on this view, how do we avoid nominalism (which, ironically can ultimately end in apostasy)? Also, what does Peter mean here (2 Peter 1:10): Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to *confirm your calling and election*, for if you *practice these qualities you will never fall*.

Bishop Philip North knows that Anglo-Catholicism's real meaning is to bring beautiful worship to the poor in gospel proclamation. American Anglo-Catholicism seems to encourage defiance of authority and doctrinal confusion, which is really a trademark of their former evangelical world.

RCC don’t spend a lot of time thinking about protestant denominations. Catholics are more focused on learning the richness of the church and the theological teachings from its leadership. When you know the origin of anglican denomination there are a lot of issues with it. It explains why they retain so many Catholic traditions … but the formation of its hierarchy and its bible have serious issues especially when it comes to the twisting of the bible to fit what a king declared.

Dispensationlism is from the Zionists/Zebras. Their interpretation of scripture was given to the likes of John Darby and Clarence Larkin...PERIOD

Man I barely have the patience to listen to this, super impressed by your demeanor in explaining these things

I listened to the debate, very impressed by your ability to articulate and explain the scriptures. Very helpful! Thank you

Not very good.

We gentiles can never replace the Jews. We are grafted in. In Rom 11:24-25, we are warned no to be arrogant. I'm thankful God count me precious enough to be grafted in and receive the gift of salvation.

A beautiful bible, good quality paper, lays flat, margins, cross refs at the bottom, out of the way. Are these the most important things in a bible? Pretty maps, who cares what it actually says? Which version it is, the doctrines it's teaching?

So regeneration = sanctification?

I've watched this video twice now. It's super helpful. Anyone have other resources they'd like to share on the topic of the episcopate? Readings or other videos would be great.

Do you believe that just because men don't believe something then it is not true? It is indisputable that Jesus gave Paul something different. Paul calls it a mystery hidden in God since before the foundation of the world. It is a new way in which God is dealing with mankind, apart from Israel, apart from the law and apart from works. By faith alone.

It's pretty clear in Revelation that there is a 1000 years reign. It happened in 70 AD. Now we're in Satan's little season. Nowhere Revelations say that the Kingdom ends after 1000 years, just that satan is released for a short season until the Judgement. Christ still reigns

Well done. When I was in evangelicalism, I was given the impression that this was the only eschatological position the Scriptures taught. Now, as a confessional Lutheran, I know better.

Dispensationalism is heresy created in 19 th century...

You are right, Dispensationalism is not a theology. It is just acknowledging God worked in man differently throughout the course of history. I am open to criticism, but the things you say about dispensationalism in the first minute and a half are not true, just repeating talking points that have been corrected a long time ago. Those in this comment thread who call it heresy might want to consider the true definition of heresy: is acknowledging God had differnt economies throughout scripture leading people away from the gospel? Is having a differnt end time beleif leading people into unbelief? Are John MacArthur, Charles Stanley, Chuck Swindoll, J Vernon Mcgee and the majority of conservative radio preachers throughout the last hundred years all heretics? Are they going to hell? Is your theology 100% true? Does everyone in your theology camp beleive exactly the same or are they heretics too when they disagree with you? Be careful. 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 has a stark warning against that rhetoric. Paul says you are being carnal.

Bro! Every word. Usually I have quibbles here and there even when people broadly agree with me. Not so with this video. Every word was shot on. This was a fantastic response.

Hey brother, I get the point you're making but your depiction of the way Catholics treat icons and statues probably only holds true for American Catholicism. My mom and her whole side of the family are from the Philippines and let me tell you right now, there are lavish and overt public acts of veneration of statues and icons.

One verse in 1st Corinthians 10 rules out both transubstantiation and zwinglian memorialism. "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?" It's still bread so there goes transubstantiation. It's a participation (fellowship, communion, sharing) in the body and blood so there goes memorialism. For me the boundary lines are the reformed view on one end and the Lutheran / Orthodox view on the other and anything within that range is pretty good to me.

It is so absurd that any Christian would interpret the Bible literally and actually expect God to fulfill all his promises the same way the people did to whom He made the promises. To actually seek authorial intent and to give passage priority over new passage spiritualization is nothing short of a demonic cult! When confronted with the question "did God really say?" These insane "so called" Christians actually take God's word literally and say yes He did say that. Crazy to think that Satan can actually dupe Christians into taking God at His word! I'm sure glad I'm not one of those demon possessed dispensationalists!