Cape Dory 27 Cruising Modifications
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Nicholson 31 Refit Tour
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@alanluscombe8a553
@alanluscombe8a553 5 күн бұрын
Just bought an alberg and spent the last year setting up ready to live in. I spent 17 years saving money while in the army and just retired. I could have bought newer but I found that no matter what I was gonna be spending money to set it up. Alberg left me plenty of cash to refit and travel. Love it. It is slow and very stable
@johnfisher7143
@johnfisher7143 8 күн бұрын
Wow, November 2019, just before covid ruined everyone’s plans, I bet that put a dent in his circumnavigation. What bad luck.
@alanluscombe8a553
@alanluscombe8a553 11 күн бұрын
I just retired from the army and have saved money the last 16 years with plans to go sailing. I ended up buying a nice alberg 30 because it can go and do what I want I don’t need a fast boat and it wasn’t a quarter million dollars.
@BruceDWolcott
@BruceDWolcott 15 күн бұрын
A very thoughtful conversion, practical and it much improves the seaworthiness! Is there provision for a small tender?
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 14 күн бұрын
An inflatable kayak would be the most practical tender for a small boat although it does have its own limitations.
@mobiuslooped1551
@mobiuslooped1551 15 күн бұрын
Hello James, I’m impressed with your processes and video here. One question, I’m curious about what finish you used on the interior of the V-berth when you were completed. I’ve used Interlux eggshell enamel before, but that was a long time ago. Is this paint? Or pigmented epoxy? I am restoring a Fisksatra Havsfidra 20 so I’m shopping around for all the latest tips and tricks I can find… Thanks very much.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 14 күн бұрын
In this case I think we just used 2 coats of white Interprotect 2000e epoxy barrier coat as a primer and paint in one. It's the easiest and fastest to apply if you don't mind the matte finish. Recently I prefer to use white Total Protect from Total Boat since it goes on smoother and less odor when applying. For areas where the owner wants a smoother paint finish I use latex type EZ Cabin Coat which is a semi gloss and tint it off-white as done in the link to the video here about 8 minutes in. In any case, I try to avoid using gloss white because it is too reflective and highlights imperfections in the surface and finish: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gsmngbaHrc7FmXU.html
@mobiuslooped1551
@mobiuslooped1551 2 күн бұрын
@@atomvoyager Thanks so much for your info. I do like the matte finish. I find gloss below decks distracting with all its imperfections jumping out at me. I recently joined your Plastic Classic Forum, I’ve got a coffee-can-type hull-to-deck joint on my Havsfidra 20 that I will be dealing with and hopefully can get some detailed info on. Thanks for all you do!
@alanluscombe8a553
@alanluscombe8a553 16 күн бұрын
Albergs are awesome boats.
@jd739
@jd739 19 күн бұрын
What a dream boat!
@flyingfox10001
@flyingfox10001 19 күн бұрын
Get yourself a diesel inboard! Apart from that a Honda i10 plenty of power to run continuously with an extended tank, which is easily topped up without stopping the generator, change the oil every 100 hours and be sure to oil the air filter at the same time. My last i10 Honda done in excess of 8000 hours at $1200 Australian, bloody good buying, lots of petrol though makes it expensive practice! P.S doesn’t matter how calm it is you need to secure the thing just in case, sitting it on there like that is bad practice to say the least!.
@flyingfox10001
@flyingfox10001 19 күн бұрын
Jumped to 6:00 mark and switched off immediately! The sight of a boom swaying makes me so angry, from this to on moorings and everywhere else, these people don’t deserve a boat!
@DaveNoyesrealestate
@DaveNoyesrealestate 20 күн бұрын
I love these videos and have for a couple of years now. Question.. When removing the inboard and going to the outboard, how does that change how she sits on her waterline?
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 20 күн бұрын
In this case because the diesel was a small one weighting about 200lbs and located further forward than the outboard, the combined weight of outboard, solar, extra batteries and anchors tended to keep the trim about the same.
@BoatVideoEntries
@BoatVideoEntries 20 күн бұрын
Wow, great boat and video.
@johnnya9001
@johnnya9001 20 күн бұрын
Very nicely done. Personally, I am a purist when it comes to classics like boats or cars so Indigo is as original as possible but with the inclusion of some creature comforts. Cheers.
@1BIGFROGGY
@1BIGFROGGY 22 күн бұрын
She's beautiful and I can see she's being properly enjoyed! The fit out and tweeks make her who she is. Happy future voyages!
@edwardfinn4141
@edwardfinn4141 22 күн бұрын
Beautiful boat. Great job on the refit. Congratulations. Three reefs in the main, gotta love it! The Cape Dory is so much like my Alberg 35 both designed by Carl Alberg. Think I’ll keep my 27 hp Yanmar all the same. But to each his own. Fair Winds!
@FarReachVoyages
@FarReachVoyages 22 күн бұрын
Excellent update James. Everything perfectly executed. Also a sincere well done to Mark not only for his determination to execute his own vision but also on his sailing accomplishments. That’s the second nicest CD 36 I have ever seen! 😂
@edwardfinn4141
@edwardfinn4141 22 күн бұрын
@@FarReachVoyages We know what the nicer CD36 is , Good on Ya.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tips we got from you and FarReachVoyages on the wheel to tiller conversion and other things.
@jayknight850
@jayknight850 22 күн бұрын
I have the Torqeedo on my B&B design 24.5 Cat Ketch and I find my regeneration ability to be negligible. I can tell it is in “regeneration “ because the display indicates that it it. It is a Torqeedo pod Cruise 3.-with the folding prop. I absolutely love it maneuvering around, instant torque, excellent throttle response but regeneration….forget it.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for that info.
@ArtifexBarbarus
@ArtifexBarbarus 22 күн бұрын
As I've heard it, you can choose between a prop optimized to drive the boat, or a prop optimized for regen. You don't get both in a fixed blade prop.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 22 күн бұрын
I'm sure that's true. It may not have changed our choice to use epropulsion but too bad they felt the need to lie about it.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 22 күн бұрын
I would think a small permanent dodger with the ability to add more solar on top would help with the charging.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 22 күн бұрын
That could be a good option.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 22 күн бұрын
Do you think it is possible to get 6'5" Headroom out of a Cape Dory 36? How long are the berths in the Cape Dory 36?
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 22 күн бұрын
I think the bunks were around 75" but you should ask on one of the Cape Dory forums to confirm. It should be possible to drop the cabin sole 3" or so to obtain 6'5" headroom but you may have to relocate or modify and water tanks that might be located close under the sole as there are on this boat.
@pascalbonischot421
@pascalbonischot421 23 күн бұрын
This has been on my mind since I started the motor well modification on my A30. How much have you dropped the cocckpit floor to have the drainage inverted? This is so logical and we get rid of two holes in the hull at the same time! Love to see a video on that!
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 22 күн бұрын
Because the original CD36 footwell is far enough above the waterline we were able to do this by dropping the aft end about 5" and keeping the forward end at the same height. We needed to do this instead of raising the forward end because of the outboard well and tiller conversion restrictions. On the A30 where the waterline is higher up you'll probably need to keep the aft end in the same position and raise the forward end roughly 3". But then you'll lose headroom under the boom and bimini, which may be an issue. To know exactly, you'll have to check the angle of the footwell with a level to ensure enough slope for drainage. At 5-6 knots the stern will squat and improve the drainage angle but there is a risk of back-flooding if the outlet is too low. We used something similar to the T-H Marine Scupper Valve Assembly | Flush Mount Boat Flapper Scuppers to reduce any inrush of water from following seas. You can watch the footwell modification in part 2 of this playlist beginning at 8 minutes thru 22 minutes here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iq2pfatj267FqoU.html
@horstlauch453
@horstlauch453 23 күн бұрын
A true sailors boat love it.
@jims5338
@jims5338 23 күн бұрын
Pure inspiration...just like your books! 👍
@Sail1095
@Sail1095 23 күн бұрын
Great work!
@sirjohnpenny5625
@sirjohnpenny5625 25 күн бұрын
Probably would be easy to have retrieve line similar to paraanchor setup, possible 5 or 6 mm
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 24 күн бұрын
Possibly, but 6mm line is hard to handle under any load and others have claimed that a full length trip line doesn't work because it fouls and wraps itself around the drogue line. Might be worth a test though.
@sirjohnpenny5625
@sirjohnpenny5625 25 күн бұрын
How you retrieve under full load ?
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 24 күн бұрын
Same way as in the video - brute force with the windlass, although at some point that won't be manageable so in most cases you would wait until the storm has moderated before retrieving.
@gezdunyayi4444
@gezdunyayi4444 29 күн бұрын
Is this the same boat that circumnavigated. It was a triton 28 and named atom.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 29 күн бұрын
Yes, same boat, same owner.
@gezdunyayi4444
@gezdunyayi4444 27 күн бұрын
@atomvoyager thanks very much. I remembered reading about it somewhere. Great feat indeed. 👍👍
@hearsejr
@hearsejr 29 күн бұрын
Hey James, you probably don't remember me. It's been like 15 year since I had my old boat called pretty lucky that I sold and man I could tell you stories about the guy I sold it too... well that and the atomic 4 that I hated with a passion. I have recently been gifted a boat from Joe Dougan (spl???) And he had a 28' O'Day in Brunswick for a while, but sold it. I was wondering if have ever seen anyone cruising or modified a Chrysler C20 ND took it from Florida to Bahamas? I want to modify mine and try it on day but as I'm new to the chrysler C20, I don't even know where the weak points are. Joe was dismasted and re finished a mast and rigging and rebuilt the chain plates. Any thoughts on if it's even possible to make it stronger? Thanks, Bill
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager 29 күн бұрын
I'm not familiar with the C20 but most boats can benefit from some strengthening and safety and functioning modifications. I would join a popular online trailer sailer group and ask them for specific known weak points.
@hearsejr
@hearsejr 29 күн бұрын
@atomvoyager thanks I will try that. My main goal is to sail from Tampa around the keys and hopefully cross over to the Bahamas... I also want to sail from Southern Florida up to Reedsville VA. And stop in Brunswick to vist my childhood hunting grounds at Blythe Island. I was raised right there at the Boy scout camp grand in the 1975. Not necessarily in that order.. lol.
@francoistran5681
@francoistran5681 Ай бұрын
Nice video!
@Mme.Swisstella
@Mme.Swisstella Ай бұрын
I only realised a very few days ago that the atom voyager is also the circumnavigator at age 21 in minimalist ship !
@msf60khz
@msf60khz Ай бұрын
It is very difficult to install the bonding and grounding system used for buildings. I have found that a large dimeter bare cable dropped into the sea with a metre immersed provides a very good ground. For a small boat I think these cables could be clipped to the shrouds prior to thunder and also to the mast a little way up from the deck and dropped over the side. All large metal objects and the electrical grounding busbars to be connected together, including anchor chain.
@adamtedder1012
@adamtedder1012 Ай бұрын
Bow fishermen have been doing this for a long time. Its where i got my idea. A generator hooked to powermax converters power the electric motor direct or can have batteries in between and will charge your batteries while your moving. The powermax controllers will stop chatging the batteries when they are full.
@user-cz4yy6wi3l
@user-cz4yy6wi3l Ай бұрын
Nice job and well done. I owned a 1959 7/8 rig, modified in 1960 to a mast head rig. Spent many years sailing out of Newport Beach,Ca.
@BoatVideoEntries
@BoatVideoEntries Ай бұрын
I hear that you can just make one batt bank with lithium amd lead-acid together and not need the dc to dc charger. The theory is that the lead-acid will soak up the over charge as well as replenish the low batt levels...
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
This sounds like the system popularized by Emily and Clarks Adventure youtube video three years ago. While it is feasible, I decided then that there were a couple cons and not enough benefits for our situation so dismissed it. People should check out the video and read through the top comments for more info: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqelg8mYv828lZc.html
@BoatVideoEntries
@BoatVideoEntries Ай бұрын
@atomvoyager wow, that guy talks a lot just to say something simple. I'm thinking about just deleting my engine alternator for my next boat. In my experience, I never use it and it's problematic.
@Cruiser2B
@Cruiser2B Ай бұрын
I have an Alberg 30, displacement closer to that of CD27. I HATE the noise of outboard in the well. Given that I mostly motor in and out of marina, do you feel I should purchase Navy 6.0 or 3.0? Currently use Tohatsu 6hp sailpro....I have to admit my A30 feels underpowered with the Tohatsu. I'm leaning toward 6.0, just much bigger and heavier than 3.0. I do not kick outboard up, just remove it...much smaller hole in the boat
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
I would carefully weigh the pros and cons before switching your gas outboard for electric. If you truly only motor in and out the marina or other short periods that the electric motors limited range can handle then the gas motor noise for short duration should not bother you that much either. I'm learning from experience that the gas motor is much simpler, cheaper, more reliable and functional. One of the Epropulsion lithium batteries we bought had some fault soon after it arrived and we struggled to get them to replace it under warranty. If you use a different LiFePo4 battery then the regen feature won't work. Also, we had two bad remote displays that had to be swapped out in the first few months. Other owners on the Epropulsion facebook group frequently report similar quality and design problems. But if you dislike the gas motor that much and want to risk it, or like we did, want to experiment and learn first hand if electric is suitable to your needs, then the Navy 6 seems a better choice for an Alberg 30 than the 3. You'll find with the bigger motor you don't have to run it at full throttle which can cause overheating and shorten the life. A downside is that you'll need to rig up your own lifting tackle since the motor is so bottom heavy that it's nearly impossible to tilt it up without it. Not tilting up either motor somewhat defeats the purpose of the well. With three electric connections and the two bolts in the mount to remove, it's also time consuming and heavy and awkward to handle. Why do you remove the gas motor or leave it down rather than tilting it under sail or for storage, when it's such a simple way to handle it?
@user-vw8nh4dw2o
@user-vw8nh4dw2o Ай бұрын
These are diaphragm pumps. problem is, they compressing air directly from the 'brushed' motor/armature housing. also, they could fail any minute. I already had one fail on the test bench. Defective 'commutator' *Never would I rely on a single one of these pumps with my life.*
@WildernessMedic
@WildernessMedic Ай бұрын
Eh. If it's safe to breathe who cares. Even the bottom of a coast guard cutter isn't that far from the surface.
@renegademind1833
@renegademind1833 Ай бұрын
My friend boat bottom cleaning, was also using that same kind of air pump. He constantly complained the air taste awful. After a long day of diving he went to hospital, where they put him on a ventilator, for corrective measures. Use at your own risk, the pump designed for plants.
@amcarru
@amcarru Ай бұрын
Hello Mr Baldwin, can you tell the brand of the swing arm, please?. Thx
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
The bracket is a discontinued unbranded model that is no longer available. The closest thing I've seen to it is a RAM mount that I've used on other boats: www.hodgesmarine.com/ramram-109vu-ram-mount-single-6-swing-arm-with-625-x-2-re.html
@edwardfinn4141
@edwardfinn4141 Ай бұрын
Another excellent video.
@KostasLazanas
@KostasLazanas Ай бұрын
I just found your channel. I’m going to buy a C22 soon and this is like the Rolls Royse of Catalina 22’s. Amazing 🤩
@Ramenscooter
@Ramenscooter Ай бұрын
Long live Yanmar!
@PS-ef4yg
@PS-ef4yg 4 күн бұрын
My 1981 Yanmar thumper (YSM12), mistreated by countless previous owners, supposedly reconditioned once in the past, still starts every time I push the ignition button, burns no oil, leaks no oil. Take care of your diesel and it'll last forever...
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 Ай бұрын
Given that the boat is fitted with a shore power circuit and AC-48V DC charger, I can see this as being a "simple" setup in the context of operation, but from the point of view of efficiency it looks like a bit of a dog's breakfast. Those 2200i's are AC-DC-AC in operation. You're then stepping down the AC at the charger to 48V and rectifying the current again to DC to charge the battery. Then there are the losses in either inverting that current to AC at the motor or the inherent inefficiencies that come with DC motors. That's a pretty lossy circuit. And at roughly 800cc. of petrol per hour to produce just 900 watts at the prop, in the context of fuel efficiency, that's pretty bad. I get that in this application the motor is only being used for getting in and out of the harbour, so it's no big deal, and generators come in handy for lots of other things, but I would expect a conventional diesel driving the prop via a gearbox to easily achieve 6kwh of power at the prop for the same fuel burn or even less. Interesting project, just the same. Hopefully a bit more battery and a bit more solar and perhaps wind generation is on its way.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
Yes, lots of trade-offs with this system. It's not so efficient or powerful compared to a diesel generator but on this boat we don't have space or budget or need for the complexity of that. Yes, another battery and more solar would be helpful if willing to allocate the space needed for those. We didn't want a wind generator since its shadow would cut the solar output and he plans to sail in areas that have more sun than strong winds as concerns of windage and noise.
@nicksanguedolce9375
@nicksanguedolce9375 Ай бұрын
In your video you have vented the collection bucket, instead of just venting the C-Head housing is this the correct way of doing it
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
Yes the instructions say the vent hose inserts into the bucket itself, maybe because the slot in the box for viewing the urine diverter and the loose toilet seat would allow too much air flow for the weak fan to extract all the smell. Or could be because they want max air flow in the bucket to promote the drying process. C-head stopped production a few years ago and I have made simpler version dry toilets shown in the following videos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gKmUdrN3v968h40.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b55dhLCnprrPmmg.html
@Mechone11
@Mechone11 Ай бұрын
In rough conditions i see this system well... useless and noisy , gas is also a bomb compared to diesel.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
That is true but generator can be run in cockpit footwell somewhat protected from rough water. You can't run the outboard motor in rough water but can charge a depleted battery at least so that the battery is ready to use when conditions moderate in a calm which is the main purpose for the motor, not motoring in rough water. The gas is stored in the outboard well which is well vented overboard and not connected to bilge or other lockers so that reduces the danger.
@fargarden
@fargarden Ай бұрын
Liking the modular flexibility of this arrangement very much
@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 Ай бұрын
Beautiful work James. If I ever decide to get another large sailboat, I will definately go for this arrangement. My current project doesn't require that much re-engineering. But I've always liked this redesign that you've become famous for. It's so well thought out and executed. A quick question though, do you have a preference for a kick up rudder manufacturer? I could make one myself, but in the interest of research, I'm looking for cost estimates of companies who sell the kits. I'm refitting a Balboa 26' and the tiler head and rudder assembly are a one piece unit that drops into the cockpit floor. Previously, the outboard was on the center of the transom, but I am wanting to move the tiller and rudder assembly there and make it a kick up rudder, with the outboard to port and swim ladder on starboard. A Code Catalina 25' kickup rudder is probably the closest off the shelf rudder kit that I have found so far. This boat has a swing keel that I am eliminating. I am adding short twin bilge keels and filling the old keel trunk in to keep the weight the same and the draft the same as the original with the keel fully retracted in the upright position. I want to be able to launch, retrieve and transport on a flat trailer and be able to beach flat for drying out. I'm building a Great Loop boat, a Camp Cruiser with extended range in mind for 2 people. Even the sail rig is getting revamped with a round spreaderless mast and a Wharram style Bird Wing Sail. It's a 2-3 year project for me and I'm doing it here at my home, which meant first to build a building to do it in, thanks to Ohio winters. I just enjoy cutting and refitting old boats and making them slightly better really. There are lots of other little details, as I'm sure you are aware.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
I'm not familiar with best source for a hinged transom mount rudder, but the Catalina 25 or similar off the shelf type is probably good if robust enough for your boat. I'd like to hear more about your project as it progresses since I also have an interest in a small bilge keel boat similar to some of the Westerly type designs from the UK. I'm currently refitting a Sandpiper 32 with twin swing bilge keels for a client. I've been thinking about options for modifying a swing keel or centerboard as you are doing and wonder about the design and construction of it. I learned with my Corsair F24 and F27 if the boat has a centerboard with draft under around 2 feet then best to have a cassette type vertically retracting rudder that can also hinge back if you hit something because a standard hinged rudders don't steer well when swung aft for shallow waters. It adds cost and complexity though and probably no advantage since fixed bilge keels probably have enough draft that they allow you to keep the rudder down for steerage in shallow water. Maybe you can shore your project and photos with us on Plastic Classic Forum. I'm a moderator and answer questions there. Otherwise, contact me for further discussion at atomvoyages.com plasticclassicforum.com/forum/
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
Or do you have a blog somewhere I can check out?
@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 Ай бұрын
@atomvoyager I sent you a reply but for some reason it did not post. I have not been having a lot of luck with YT lately. I will try to contact you through the website that you referenced. Thank you James.
@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 Ай бұрын
Across Islands and Oceans was the first ebook that I read when I got my first sailboat, a decrepit 1985 Catalina 25'. The price was right at $10.00 for the title transfer though. It seemed only fitting a free boat and a free ebook download, but it was the last of the free items coming into sailboat ownership. I looked for a Triton, but alas there were none to be had. Later, I purhased a Watkins 29' Seawolf and spent many years aboard. Glad to see that you're still messing about James. Thanks for the inspiration. I wouldn't be afraid to take that C22 to the Bahamas in good weather, not my first choice but they are pretty good boats. I'm refitting a 76' Balboa 26' now, getting ready for the Great Loop next season, with any luck. Cheers and Fairwinds everyone!
@maxstrahan
@maxstrahan Ай бұрын
Really interesting and inspiring setup.
@michaelsimpson9779
@michaelsimpson9779 Ай бұрын
I appreciate the exercise and effort in documentation, it's interesting. Huge amounts of electrical complexity though, in a moisture laden environment. And mains voltage at that. A well maintained single cylinder marine diesel walks all over this stuff for efficiency and reliability... You could actually even use a modern petrol stationary engine if you were really careful and strapped for cash. Or, just buy a Tohatsu Sailpro they're amazing... Solar is not great in anything but ideal conditions. The amount of real estate required for the panels is not achievable. Except perhaps on a big cat. Realistically, electricity for motive power in these sorts of settings is an exercise in futility. The amount of storage required, the energy density... why? Sorry if this comes off as a hugely negative blast, it's not meant to be.
@atomvoyager
@atomvoyager Ай бұрын
I understand your points. Most sailors they are better off staying with a diesel engine. The idea with this boat is to experiment with other options since there are many pros and cons involved depending on type of use, enthusiasm to sail rather than motor, etc. It may turn out that these electronics are not well suited long term to the environment and if that's the case we will consider it a learning experience and swap out the motor for the 9.8hp Tohatsu gas outboard. So far, it is working well for the owner who just made a 350 mile offshore trip up the east coast and only used the electric motor for 2 hours when departing and entering port. The battery did not go below 90% SOC and recovered in one day with solar. The generator was not needed this time. Having continued success like this requires careful passage planning and longer waits for ideal weather windows and not trying to navigate long distance under power. Most sailors these days don't want to deal with all that and because their sailing skills are limited and anxiety is high, they are better off with diesel.
@unhippy1
@unhippy1 Ай бұрын
Lol i recently made all the mounting brackets for a replacement generator install on a setup like these for a customer......38ft steel yacht with electric auxiliary drive with a 5.5kva silent generator in a designated forward locker and 48v 60kw battery bank.....dunno what the motor size was but would do 5.9 knots
@jeffreyerwin3665
@jeffreyerwin3665 Ай бұрын
More than one sailboat has replaced that awful diesel with a 4-stoke outboard. I like the four blade prop on the Tohatsu. How much did the 200 lbs. of lead cost? Did anyone want the diesel ? What the critics do not understand is that with the low lead ballast replacing the engine and with the prop apperature filled in, the boat will sail better and can do without the inboard diesel.