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@rickyuniverse8155
@rickyuniverse8155 31 минут бұрын
Is there any other videos during this WTT star contender?
@SL-jo4om
@SL-jo4om 7 сағат бұрын
The unanswerable question is how much worse could viewership have been if WTT had NOT been launched? My consumption of live TT competitions is entirely coincident with the development of WTT starting around the time of Houston 2021 WC. As a Canadian fan of TT, it's hard to imagine a world without the reliable coverage offered by the WTT KZfaq channel..
@masterflamewing234
@masterflamewing234 12 сағат бұрын
No player interviews, player highlights, just recording games isn’t going to make the game grow. There’s no personality in the game and they fail to realize this.
@andreabottaro8016
@andreabottaro8016 21 сағат бұрын
From the start of wtt i am way more updated on the international tournaments scene thanks to the app and through you tube i can watch a lot of the action + highlights
@pongbotstore
@pongbotstore Күн бұрын
The WTT rebranding has really elevated the visibility of table tennis! The new format and modern presentation have attracted a broader audience.
@hkuprobity2
@hkuprobity2 2 күн бұрын
I do not have much concern or notice the change in name from ITTF to WTT. They are the same set of administrators. They have been successful in promoting and encouraging table tennis as a sport at the grassroot level and healthy sport in many many more countries, especially the Middle East, Africa and South America. In the community, table tennis a a cheap sport and can be played even indoors. Moreover, apart from some rough people, playing table tennis is like playing golf and tennis, people are very friendly and do not fight after the win or loss. It is a good sport.
@MetalBeast28
@MetalBeast28 2 күн бұрын
In my opinion WTT has been a step forward for the sport. I don't believe the growth of a sport can be measured in KZfaq views. In recent years we've seen an increase in social media presence of table tennis, from youtube with Pongfinity and Tabletennisdaily to the appearance of Pingpod and increasing posts about park ping pong in the States. Also we've seen increasing technological advances in the sport like AI driven match analysis and VR table tennis. I think the image of WTT being a modern sport has led to this push forward and makes the sport more desirable, even if professional match views are not getting higher. To drive that point home, KZfaq views of specific matches cannot be counted as the growth parameter since the views will be diluted between viewers that saw the live broadcast, the full match and the match highlights, as well as the region locked people that watch them on other sources. Something I absolutely agree with is the lack of crowds. This is due to one thing only: doing important tournaments in random cities. Yes, maybe do a star contender in Durban or Jeddah, that's fine. But doing a Smash or WTTC in one of these cities that are so far from main TT countries is absurd. WTT Frankfurt was amazing to watch last year. This year the tournaments in China and Korea have been really nice as well. The Singapore Smash has been good as well. Please limit the cities these important tournaments are played in. There is a reason Wimbledon is not played in Saudi Arabia but in England.
@glebv
@glebv 2 күн бұрын
- I absolutely LOVE the new side angle, it's a much better viewing expriences, more exciting and fast, without obstruction by the players . - I absolutely love the accessibility of the WTT matches and it made me watch infinitely more matches then before, I get familiar with more new players, it's great . - Comparing the views of a video that has been up a few months VS. a video that has been up a few years is SO inaccurate and misleading I would not use it at all. Aknowledging it's "not the best" comparison somewhere in the end is not enough.
@ErikDaugaard
@ErikDaugaard 2 күн бұрын
Agreed
@CorentinKaisergruber
@CorentinKaisergruber 2 күн бұрын
you cant compare the view to match highight who wasnt live stream and match who are livestream now before highlight people dont go to the video if they have seen it live
@NikolayZabrodin
@NikolayZabrodin 2 күн бұрын
I started watching table tennis only 1-2 years ago. But not because of WTT or ITTF, I just started to play and train. As a spectator I have no complaints against WTT format.
@NikolayZabrodin
@NikolayZabrodin 2 күн бұрын
Also consider contract conditions between players and WTT. There are complaints from the players that they are forced to play no matter their circumstances, otherwise they will be penalized with points reduced.
@michaelshaw2786
@michaelshaw2786 2 күн бұрын
There is a player factor in the comparison between ITTF and WTT era: the presence of Xu Xin who showed up 5 times in the list of 10 mid-range viewership. I'm sure many fans reduced or stopped their viewing of TT events following their hero's retirement.
@christianramananjaona1482
@christianramananjaona1482 2 күн бұрын
Side angle is better
@bertoyardie8731
@bertoyardie8731 2 күн бұрын
GTT can you explain to me why the Chinese don’t play certain tournaments like star contender. Is it a rule or just choice. Thanks
@user-ef6nq4ud7g
@user-ef6nq4ud7g 2 күн бұрын
They are preparing for Olympics
@whliew171271
@whliew171271 3 күн бұрын
TT is one of the most pathetic sport. Low viewerships. for fun play is fine.
@geoffeaton3928
@geoffeaton3928 3 күн бұрын
The location choices for the smash events are a joke. They should have put them in places that would get a decent size crowd !!! I understand they are hosted in cashed up places for quick easy money but the lack of fans in those areas will not allow the events to build up over time into something similar to 4 tennis slams. I was very excited to see wtt trying to emulate the 4 slams with the proposed 4 smashes. Why not have them in china, japan , Germany ....ect when i see an empty stadium, all i can see is a failed event. Like a band playing in a giant venue to 10 people !!!!!
@goldentabletennis3910
@goldentabletennis3910 3 күн бұрын
WTT claimed that they are hosting events in areas where table tennis isn't popular like Saudi Arabia and Doha to boost table tennis popularity. But don't worry, a China Smash is coming this September and it will be a guaranteed full stadium 😁
@jz-nx7nr
@jz-nx7nr 2 күн бұрын
@@goldentabletennis3910 seats in China are being filled to the brim with shatou fans-the two are hard carrying table tennis in China these days 😂😂😂
@timb00
@timb00 3 күн бұрын
I think you really missed the con that the amount of video fuck ups by wtt is infinite. We had whole events where the sound was off by a few seconds which made it barely watchable. In others the sound was missing completely, the framerate was capped at 20 or half of the picture was missing. Ofcause they are uploading a lot but minimal quality control would be sick. I think just one more person maintaining the channel could help with huge upload delays when there are big events with loads of matches.
@goldentabletennis3910
@goldentabletennis3910 3 күн бұрын
Agree with you. Sometimes the sound is not sync and the live streams pixelates from time to time. This is something WTT definitely needs to improve in the future.
@anthonypoulos1370
@anthonypoulos1370 3 күн бұрын
It was at the bottom. Any change was bound to be an improvement. But show the audience! It looks like most of these tournaments are run on a sound stage...
@oranjetoeters1
@oranjetoeters1 4 күн бұрын
Thank you . I thought I was the only one who hated the side angle
@christianramananjaona1482
@christianramananjaona1482 2 күн бұрын
Are you a table tennis player ?
@oranjetoeters1
@oranjetoeters1 2 күн бұрын
@christianramananjaona1482 not a pro player but I do play
@christianramananjaona1482
@christianramananjaona1482 2 күн бұрын
@@oranjetoeters1So you should understand easily that seeing a player from the back is not ideal. Side angle is better.
@oranjetoeters1
@oranjetoeters1 Күн бұрын
@christianramananjaona1482 nope. From a spectator point of view, the oblique or front to back angle is the best to appreciate the game both in speed and breath
@christianramananjaona1482
@christianramananjaona1482 Күн бұрын
@@oranjetoeters1 Not sure....perhaps the oblique...but not from the back at all.
@topcat222ii
@topcat222ii 4 күн бұрын
I remember hating the new camera angle so much at first. Now I am used to it but, similar to the other commenter said, I would prefer the older angle. I wonder how badminton and tennis fans would react if their sport decides to make a similar change in camera angle. Both sports are much closer to table tennis in terms of how the game is viewed than soccer... I wouldn't be shocked if most would hate it.
@sora_cola
@sora_cola 4 күн бұрын
The umpires are very bad. So many illegal serves not called as well as losing track of scores like the men's double finals with wang and liang vs ma and lin
@danwang8825
@danwang8825 4 күн бұрын
I’m in the US. WTT is still a work in progress but I like it, and it seems to be better than what we had before. There is pro-level action to watch almost every day. There also seems to be more opportunities for players at that level to compete, gain experience, win, and become noticed. There seems to be more opportunities for fans in more parts of the world to watch in person, and meet players. I haven’t heard much about it attracting people who weren’t already table tennis fans, so that’s an area for an improvement. Another area is increasing the prize money, as mentioned. Like other pro sports organizations, WTT is essentially an entertainment business. Hopefully all the events are working out financially for all parties involved.
@malaysiatabletennis
@malaysiatabletennis 4 күн бұрын
I think WTT is overcomplicating the situation. They really only need to address the poor camera quality issue, which would solve the majority of the problems table tennis has faced. A bit more effort on the marketing side could also boost viewership. However, redesigning the entire arena feels excessive. The funds used for setting up new courts could have been better allocated, for example, to paying players on time, as mentioned in the video. Many players experience delayed payments. I doubt the new courts have significantly increased spectator numbers, and I also doubt that the classic courts couldn't attract spectators just as effectively.
@bertoyardie8731
@bertoyardie8731 4 күн бұрын
I love the new accessibility of table tennis tournaments on KZfaq, it has rekindled my love of the sport, the levels are very high now. I also prefer the side view they are using now. A few concerns. 1) the prize money is not enough 2) the tournaments are so close together the players may be burned out and not give their best. 3) the restrictions on KZfaq for some regions suck, I had to get vpn to get around it. 4) I agree the confusing formats do lead to some frustration but the levels of the game is so fun I don’t worry too much about that. Fix the prize money and have more features on the athletes. Great video, thanks. I am from Jamaica 🇯🇲 btw and i used to play in the ittf era. I find the WTT era more exciting, there is always room for improvement but I give credit for what wtt is doing now.
@goldentabletennis3910
@goldentabletennis3910 4 күн бұрын
Glad to find some positive comments about WTT! I believe everything has its flaws. Rather than hate on the imperfections, let's continue to give progressive feedback so that WTT can make our beloved sport much better!
@manasg.a.202
@manasg.a.202 4 күн бұрын
I found the side angle very jarring to begin with. I have got used to it now, and don't mind it so much. It does have its merits; gives a better perspective on length. Having said that, I would prefer the old angle any day. Have to agree with your broader analysis. Don't think WTT has been able to propel the game forward.
@mikaelberglund1449
@mikaelberglund1449 4 күн бұрын
1. The video would get better with new tech regardless of organizer 2. The angle sucks 3. WTT events are boring with zero crowd. They could be played in the same warehouse in Doha - no one would see the difference 4. Best of 5 and drawn out tournaments. Why? They have space in the schedule for 7 games. 5. Nothing has really improved, except for the fake prize money
@alvinalvin1838
@alvinalvin1838 4 күн бұрын
In my opinion, the camera angle is terrible, I quit watching because of the angle. Also, the feeder, contender, smash and whatnot system were really confusing to me at first. I feel like badminton does a better job as the level of the tournaments are clearly indicated as Super 100, Super 300, Super 500, Super 750 and Super 1000. The ranking system is also clearer for badminton. Also, I think wtt social media needs to do a better job in updating the results and next matchup, sometimes i miss out certain big match as I didn't follow closely.
@goldentabletennis3910
@goldentabletennis3910 4 күн бұрын
Hopefully they will do something about the camera angles soon. I also agree with you with the updates, they show one good point from the match without showing the final point so we don't usually know who won. Descriptions sometimes do not mentioned the winner and even if they do, they don't mention who they are facing next.
@dominusblandus
@dominusblandus 4 күн бұрын
your comparison between the total sum of views of ITTF vs WTT is not that useful as it is not the same to generate 9mio views in 3 years vs 12mio views in 5+years ... when you have more years to accumulate numbers than obviously those numbers should be higher
@goldentabletennis3910
@goldentabletennis3910 4 күн бұрын
As admitted in the video, there are limitations in my analysis. Indeed ITTF videos have more time to accumulate views but the question remains, has the rebranding to WTT really broke the barrier to gain more views or would the views be more or less the same even without the WTT rebranding?
@pansarbobo7477
@pansarbobo7477 4 күн бұрын
I think 3 years and 5 years+ is no different as they are both very long time ago. Most video views would've stagnated after about a year, not gaining as much views unless it is some major tournament or epic clashes. Give WTT videos more time it also will not grow that much to reach the level of ITTF videos. But I am not sure if this is WTT's problem or KZfaq mechanism in general. I mean, even MrBeast, the top KZfaqr of the world sometimes see decline in views in his later videos.
@starking1187
@starking1187 4 күн бұрын
Agree, I like how WTT made streams so accessible now. Contenders and feeders are great to watch as all matches are on the 45-degree angle. Due to lack of pro players, I seldom watch the feeders unless Malaysian players are playing. The infinity arena matches are slightly more troublesome as you need to turn on a VPN which usually makes the live lags and loads all the time because of slow line. But all and all still great. As a student who is studying away from home, I don't have access to television so I cannot watch those live matches. If KZfaq didn't broadcast it, all I can do is watch the live scores and wait until somebody uploads the highlights. Thank you WTT for this but please, change the angle! 🤣
@keyme2365
@keyme2365 4 күн бұрын
Agreed, the Contenders angle are really immaculate, even from yesterday's matches.
@stephensiew9237
@stephensiew9237 4 күн бұрын
More than 80% of the 20,000 audiences in WTTTC final in KL in 2016 were from China. Brought in by some direct sales or marketing company. Their support for China team were so one sided until nearly all local audiences supported Japan to ensure more interesting final matches.
@goldentabletennis3910
@goldentabletennis3910 4 күн бұрын
Very interesting insight! I guess it means that the Chinese fans are still carrying most of table tennis views around the globe. Hopefully table tennis can really expand to a wider audience.
@keyme2365
@keyme2365 4 күн бұрын
With the absent of Malaysian players, I find myself to be supporting team Japan the most nowadays 😅
@garyfagan6431
@garyfagan6431 4 күн бұрын
I like the new angle.
@garyfagan6431
@garyfagan6431 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@lltan3138
@lltan3138 6 күн бұрын
Well done Alice.
@t700qwe8
@t700qwe8 6 күн бұрын
Mantap Terbaik Alice menang.. 🇲🇾
@dannyjay7426
@dannyjay7426 6 күн бұрын
Sure lost for Alice
@ijatjackijatjack922
@ijatjackijatjack922 6 күн бұрын
alice play style cutter or chopper?
@dingteaksiong1098
@dingteaksiong1098 7 күн бұрын
Well done!
@90abduh
@90abduh 7 күн бұрын
terbaik alice
@andhimedan
@andhimedan 8 күн бұрын
I think only choose Wang Chu Qin and Ma Long as Couple in Single Man has going to Make China's Team Win Gold Medal Again, no need to bring Fan Zhen Dong. Because China has totally giant dominated in Men, Women Singles for Long Years. I suggest Ma Long move to other Country eg. Singapore hence He will win 3 Gold Medals olympic LOL 🤣
@fabiendmng2111
@fabiendmng2111 9 күн бұрын
As an umpire, i found this topic really interesting. The umpire between the Malaysian and Chinese is really insane... Even at a regional level i've never seen something as crazy as this. Was he drunk or in a bad physical condition this day ? I have nothing against these mistakes but once you're a certain level or umpiring, some mistakes should never be seen to the international matches
@Jouke_Postema
@Jouke_Postema 9 күн бұрын
Of you doubt if its legal or not, its illegal. If the umpire isnt satisfite, its illegal
@luqman2626
@luqman2626 12 күн бұрын
Akula is very talented and skillful, the defense and attacking is powerful. Although Malaysia placed at runner up, looking at the points it just feel so disappointed
@erikRairden
@erikRairden 13 күн бұрын
All camera angles are terrible except the oblique angle (45-60 degrees). The reason is that an oblique perspective shows the ball moving along all three axes in space (x, y, z). You see the curvature of the ball in both left to right, and arc (top to bottom). The camera should be placed depending on the height of the players. So place the camera 5-7 feet in the air looking slightly down on the table. For some reason they make the back angle 15-20 feet in the air, then you totally lose the curvature of the ball on the z-axis (top to bottom arc). left/right curve - not seen in side angle. top/bottom arc curve - not seen in back angle.
@klekot53
@klekot53 13 күн бұрын
I didn’t like it at first. Now I like it and prefer to other angles. The whole area of play just looks better with that angle and gives me more joy while watching matches now.
@alcomeyo5305
@alcomeyo5305 13 күн бұрын
He’s racist
@coffeewaff1e
@coffeewaff1e 13 күн бұрын
omg so this was the moment i heard at the end of the stream!! i agree that the moment was unprofessional of the umpire, i was thinking, there's 2 of them...like why can't they rely on each other to keep score? that was such a high stakes moment to be distracting to the players, even calling WCQ by name too. LJK looks so cute here, like a lost little brother even though he's the older one 😂 i was so confused watching the live, seeing 15-14 yet the players went to towel off. love how the players are at the top of it, knowing the scores themselves, not even noticing that there was something wrong cause i myself lose count of my score at times 😂
@luqman2626
@luqman2626 14 күн бұрын
Admin, you must tell which is MY and which is VIE