Thank you so much!

Well they Won the msi

@@natsudragnel3321 as well as G2

​@@daveliongson27 do you realize that you just made fun of yourself with this comment?

@@mahatmaniggandhi2898 do you realize that you just made yourself stupid by commenting?

It is GENG team not anyone’s team

And do you think this is Gonna happen?Hope not and geng and lck Win worlds and not lpl

It legit would be on brand for GenG to lose at worlds surely not right?

@@natsudragnel3321I mean u can never be sure 2022 t1 lost, 2023 jdg lost. Never be too sure, and with recent patches, seem like the meta gunna change

delusional dog

at smashing walls with the head? you can bet on that

@@BryGuev at winning worlds

at worlds, yeah, but that isn't what this video is about now is it?

@@boyonthephone4331 idk i didnt watch it i just had to rep my team

delusional choky fan boy

this jdg team vs current gen g, who would win?

@@jannedistor8247good question

GenG literally lost to TES in EWC​@@jannedistor8247

Did you read the title?

T1 isnt flexible either, so how come they won worlds? They have massive weaknesses in champ pools (just like every other team ever)

​@@maxsmith8357t1 is flexible though? Zeus can play tanks and carries, keria can play engage, enchanter and pokes. Faker also know how to play when behind unlike knight

@@maxsmith8357 They lucked out into a meta that was tailor-made for them (or shifted the meta into one that was tailor-made for them. depends on what your views are).

​@@nathanhosea489 Tailor by meta? On Swiss stage, teams always prio tank support-engage and hypercarry adc + Atroxx until T1 shift the Meta by themselves by playing range support bot and gives prio their botlane.

And this video would be titled T1: the greatest team to never win worlds

And the fact that these two teams were probably the top 2 greatest rosters of all time makes this so significant

@@vampirus9061 Haha probably true

2022 was jdg/geng but yeah i get your point.... sooo is theshy gonna sub in for weibo amd worlds this year?

2024 Winner: Hanwa Life Esports (HLE). Mark my words.

Lol no, everybody was betting DWG to win in 2020. They demolished LCK and DRX superteam of Chovy Deft and Keria, along with prime Doran and Pyosik.

​@@blitzcrank4840I never even thought Keria would go to T1 at the time, he was at the arguably best team he ever played with. And he narrowly missed winning worlds as well when he came to T1. Then again he won just next year to that. He can flex that he won worlds and EWC before Chovy does.

@@blitzcrank4840 in 2020 so many people said that lpl was the best region while lck was underestimated so their tierlist was like that: 1.TES 2.JDG 3.DWG 4. G2

It wasnt even an Azir meta, that champ was bait outside of Faker. It had a 40% winrate by midlaners named Faker and it lost most lanes. The bigger issues were 369 and Kanavi being unable to play Rumble and Rell

@maxsmith8357 "Not Azir meta" certainly explains the 77% PB%. Rather just quoting stats, go and have a think about why Azir had such high PB% despite being below 50% win rate. Azir was 3/13 against Ori but 9/14 against all other mid. The 44% was essentially all because of Ori and all 3 Ws belonged to Faker. Knight's inability to play Azir coupled with Faker making Azir work into Ori and Azir's strength into other champs meant JDG had no answers at mid.

@@DoNotPause Faker tbf tho, just doesn't want to lose when Worlds 2023 came up. It lasted until game 5 of Spring 2024 finals against gen g. That guy was a beast

@AJ1703 Yeah well, it doesn't change the fact that Knight was a complete fraud in that series. He played not to lose lane rather than playing to win lane. Kanavi and Ruler had to go above and beyond to try and carry these two fraudulent solo laners.

@@DoNotPause I gotta agree sadly. Because the most passenger player on that series was Knight and 369. Kanavi only had bad game 4, the rest he was almost solo carrying with Ruler.

So many bronze players comment

@@21___dcy<<< delusional clown t1 fan spotted LMAO cope more your trash team lost to a low tier team yesterday

Their midlaner is arguably a 2nd best, he more like 3rd best behind Faker and Chovy. And its not wild when KT took a game off of them, they were a good team also, T1? they went 5 games in MSI and you think they will go 0-3 against JDG in worlds? A tournament where T1 is historically always in their strong form? I get it, you love 2023 JDG, but you're not spitting facts, you're spitting your opinions

@@jazzlau1912JDG LOST TO THIS TRASH TEAM omE

@@robertfernandez9135going into worlds faker wasn’t in the top 3 it was 100% knight scout and Chovy with any of those 3 contending for best mid

"T1 fan" 😂😂😂

You're not a T1 fan if you don't want them to win stuff. Simple as that

@@nathanhosea489 I want them to win, but winning against JDG seemed impossible at that time 💀

​@@nhoj1249to add for this incoming 2nd round of summer split, we don't know if t1 gonna win or qualified in the playoffs or win summer. They're really struggling right now but keep believing.

he picked that cursed champion in 2022 worlds game 4 as well 😑

yeah dont forget 369 5cs per minutes, knight being more invisible

Kanavi was trying in games 1-3. Only his game 4 was bad, but he was the main reason they won a game

Kanavi again lol. At least the man was trying in that series. He looked like the weak link because he kept making mistakes because he's trying. On the other hand, the touted best mid Knight became invisible at all.

That’s why that word in the middle is there. Do you not understand the English language?

I hope you're joking, buddy.

Greatest team? Well yeah for a time just like G2 in 2018 and DWG in 2029-2021. But the best team still to ever come out of league is SKT

​@@eyaangel618You mean g2 2019?

@@Tauschungthat why its irony its a fact not an opinion 🤡

Got completely smoked by FPX in the world finals bruh

@@toxicfireball2690 jdg didn't even make it to the finals lpl fans keep crying

​@@siridanny9087i agree

@@siridanny9087JDG was still better. They played in a harder region than G2 did and atleast took a game almost two off the world champs. G2 was literally not even the second best team that worlds, lost to griffin in groups and IG was better than them.

@@maxsmith8357 G2 double kill skt within one year, g2 achieving an achievement that LPL has not had in ten years

huh this geng doesnt feel invincible at all man. peyz and lehends are consistent weakpoints and meta merchants. kiin doesnt have the vision for teamfighting and creating space like 369 does. knight has also always been a better teamplayer than chovy, so JDG was scarier and more dangerous on all fronts, echoed by all their scrim opponents. I would say GenG is suffocating to play against when they get a lead though because they have the best macro and dont bleed their lead.

@@brammutje15 their macro is precisely why I find them invincible though, not their teamfighting. I always find teams more heavily reliant on teamfighting (like JDG 2023 and current T1) to be more volatile and more prone to weaknesses because just one slip and it's all over, whereas an effective macro play is very hard to break. That their playstyle is suffocating is also a part of it; these are not mutually exclusive traits for a team to have. Just from watching their gameplay alone, it's hard to find holes against them even w/ "weak points" such as Peyz and Lehends, whereas JDG's style can be broken with good macro (LNG almost had them). That's why it's unfortunate JDG 2023 and GENG 2023 didn't get to meet last year; it was one of my most awaited matchup because I wanted to see how these two different playstyles clash. I'm more inclined to favor GenG's heavy macro play over JDG's teamfighting, but then GenG 2023 also had Doran and Peanut, so... But for some bizarre reason, GenG just become bad when the tournament has "Worlds" in it... like it's some bad juju or something. But I guess we'll just have to see and find out in the real Worlds. EDIT: also, JDG didn't have that great of a scrim record, actually. They actually tend to lose scrims; even DK had a more formidable scrim reputation. T1 and GenG were more "feared" in scrims.

Just let GenG be clapped by the LPL and T1 is there to clap the LPL... however i admid, T1 struggles a lot against GenG

Huh? You know it other way around. Since ZOFGK T1 was usually win early games lose late game team. So last years worlds was surprise.

@@naye6359 Yes, you are right. They were not like this originally at all; they were the team who always wins the early game (operative word: WAS). However, I said "before T1 became the 'Teamfight 1' team... that they are known TODAY" because, at present, T1 rarely wins any of their early games. They lose early games even against bottom tier teams like BRO. But they somehow win their games off of one teamfight, anyway (this is even obvious from their stats, hence, they have been dubbed "Teamfight 1" by most LCK enjoyers and called the best comeback team as of the moment (they don't always get to come back, but that's how they win games). Chronicler even referenced this once after the HLE vs T1 match and mentioned something about "HLE pulling a T1 against T1" because they won off of one teamfight after getting behind about 5k gold. This trend of T1 losing early game but winning after 1 teamfight actually showed its beginnings in MSI 2023, disappeared somewhat during Summer and Worlds 2023 (Summer hardly counts as data though since Faker wasn't there for a good portion of their run so the T1 data from Sunmer 2023 are deceptive), and came back full force somewhere in the tail end of Spring 2024 until today (most obvious during their EWC run). Caedrel also mentions this numerous times in his streams (he calls it "Classic T1 - get behind early game, win anyway". That's why I said "before T1, it was JDG 2023" because that's how JDG 2023 usually operated. Most people seem to have forgotten this, but JDG 2023 used to be THAT team that gets behind early and wins thru teamfighting, although they get to comeback most of the time compared to current T1 because they also don't get so behind as much as T1 does presently (current T1's gold deficits are much larger than JDG 2023's usual deficits on average so T1's comebacks are much more obvious than 2023 JDG's). This was why JDG 2023 was called the best teamfighting team because they win most of their teamfights even when with gold deficits; but T1 (even with their clean teamfighting) don't get called this by viewers because, while they also win most of their teamfights, they also lose teamfights more than JDG 2023 loses theirs (JDG actually barely loses) prpecisely because T1 usually operates with much larger gold deficits than 2023 JDG usually did (and also because they get to constantly get to meet GenG, perhaps the best defensive and best macro team itw and the ONLY team T1 struggles so hard to beat, while LPL 2023 didn't have a team like GENG 2023/2024 or close to a team like that for JDG to constantly parry against).