240 = HD according to Nathan Gay

Oh

"First of all, lower your tone--"

Koba had a point but he should have stuck with his brother and went about it another way .. I understand KoBa's anger for sure‼️

As brilliantly evil and intelligent as Koba is, this is the scene that made me realise he may have a point. One of the best villains in recent memory

DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES

Dawn of The Planet of The Apes

Oscar worthy.

HD my ass

That's why when I hear people talk about which side they'd be on, I'm like, does it matter, in the end they're all practically the same

0:56 who the hell do you think you raising your voice to

I wonder if Koba would have betrayed Caesar if Caesar had shown him a little more empathy here. The way Caesar asserts his dominance and slaps his hand away disdainfully kind of gives the impression that he doesn't care about Koba's feelings or traumas. Koba felt trivialized, and that might have led to his resentment boiling over to betrayal. I wonder if Caesar had just communicated something like "I know what you have endured. Every time I see your face I know the pain humans can cause. That is why I do not want war. We all need to work together to do what's right for everyone" I wonder if that would have been enough to keep Koba from rebelling. I feel really bad for Koba. As much as he was hateful and selfish, he was a product of the trauma inflicted on him, and I think all he really wanted was for his pain to be seen and acknowledged. Like, I know it's a movie, and the decisions and motivations of these apes are all just made up, so the truth is whatever Matt Reeves wants it to be, but I still wonder.

I like the part of this scene when Koba was gesturing when he was saying " HUMAN WORK" like "Caesar, I'm not hearing you correctly. You said"human work?" pissing off Caesar in the process...🤣🤣🤣

tobey kebbel is amazing as koba though he was 31 during filming kebbel manages the coninve the audiance of this very old and injured bonobo whos been trough hell

Caesar and Koba are like two sides of a coin. Caesar who grew up with humans and was happy and joyful whilst Koba was tortured by humans for many years and was filled with hate

0:26 Love how Caesar enunciated that line with his hands.

0:41 Skar King: Godzilla Work 0:46 Godzilla Work 0:50 Godzilla Work 0:54 GODZILLA WORK 0:56 Kong: 😠😠😠😠 1:01 Skar King: 🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇

This scene was always hard it’s split evenly who’s right or wrong in this scene i see where they are coming from on both sides

I would’ve been on koba

I can't blame Koba, he has good reason to hate humans, and wears the scars as a constant reminder of what they are capable of.

*_Human Work!!?? This is the funniest line in the movie._*

“Human work?….MAN I WAS HUMAN WORK”

I love how, even though Koba backed down here, the way Caesar won the argument (an outright display of dominance/bullying rather than actually answering Koba's disrespectfully-expressed but reasonable points) pretty much guarantees that Koba comes back harder later on. Caesar's son later being so easily swayed by Koba would likely have been avoided if the debate had been resolved as a debate rather than a threat display.

Koba was a real tragedy...

Koba is right. Humans should be fucked in the ass by these hairy monkeys 🐒

Understandable crash out

Koba: (gets mouthy) Caesar: (stands up) Koba: 🫴🏿

Caesar was raised with love. Koba was raised with hate. They both saw both sides of humanity.

bro was a psycho but i understood him

Damn, how does nobody talk about Toby kebels performance as koba in this film? He's such an underrated actor. True rocknrolla.

As physically "ugly" as Koba is .. there's something so beautiful about him. Definitely one of the most tragic and complex villains in a movie ever!

These movies were so much better than anyone would expect them to be. They took a whacky movie with a whacky premise and made incredible prequel movies

A part of Kobas breaking point was Cesars fault, he never tried to understand Koba , he instead attacked him and repelled him , no wonder he betrayed him , he betrayed him first.

its refreshing to see that apes are as much flawed as humans

HD huh? Nice potato camera. Where can i get one?

Better dialouge than Every MCU Film

Koba is trying to convince Caesar to know the meaning how humans came from apes and seeing how they are treating his kind and using them for their science and Caesar is putting himself in harms way by trusting a human and putting his family in danger and himself to by doing so

As much as i respect Caesar for who he is.... Koba was right.

He's such a patient leader, how many times does he forgive Koba.

I love how this film made us be capable of seeing the point of view from both sides Caesar doesn’t want conflict with the humans and just wants an environment that keeps Apes safe and humans out of there habitat Koba knows that humans could attack them whenever they want and knows that they could care less about how they treat apes But to be fair in the end Koba was more dictating than caring

*ไปฟังประวัติkobaและพวกคุณจะเข้าใจมากขึ้น humans work*

Koba was born in an unnamed primate research facility, where he lived with his mother and their caregiver, Mary, who taught them Sign Language. When Koba was still young, his mother died defending him from an abusive, alcoholic handler named Roger. As a result of this incident, the facility's project funding was cut and Koba was sold to Tommy, an abusive TV producer. Tommy made Koba and his new chimpanzee friend, Milo, part of his TV how, Monkey of the House, and would or beat them whenever they displeased him. When Koba finally tried to defend himself from Tommy's abuse, Tommy punished the bonobo by scarring his face with a knife and blinding his eye with a lit cigarette. After Tommy committed suicide due to his show being cancelled, Koba and Milo attempted to escape, only to be captured and separated by animal control officers. Koba then became a laboratory test subject, and eventually et Steven Jacobs, whom he swore revenge on after the man repeatedly mocked him as an unintelligent animal. That was his life-story before Rise and that's why he hates "Human Work".

Koba was right. You can trust individual humans, but never a group

Koba is so interesting because he is so justified in his beliefs. He hated humans but only after Caesar attacked him did he finally stop believing in him.

Koba is basically the human race, we get hurt and rarely its forgiven. Forgiving especially if you got hurt soo bad, its hard. I feel Koba

How do they learn tô speak in the 3rd movie?

If Caesar had said something like "Let them turn on toys and distractions, then they'll go", Koba might've seen reason.

HMM.

Koba's body language said "let me get this straight" 😂

0:14-0:19, 0:26-0:38, 0:59