Love your groove man and all of your drumkit and cymbals, all the cymbals

It's a matter of appearance. I will wgaer that if the player or listener were blinded the sound difference would be indistinquishable . In short, there is no real difference. Some enterprising videoer should do a blinded test video.

Cool Thanks for the post

Very interesting and enlightening. If I have to say something negative though… the point of the exercise, with sound clips and all, could have been made in half the time…

I’d really like that cymbal

I noticed that the dirty one had a bit more attack than the clean one. I personally prefer hearing the individual hits rather than it being one long sustained sound (except when I have to do a roll). Would gaff tape shorten the sustain and also bring back the attack, or only shorten the sustain? And a question unrelated to cleaning: one of the cymbals in our band has an uneven spot at the underside, right at the edge (it's not a crack, but it feels like a bump, clothes catch on to it when I'm setting up). Do I have to start looking for a replacement, or do I not have to worry because it's most likely not going to crack?

I play primarily metal and hard rock .. I prefer the old 60's 70's zild. Avid. CRASH-- actually, dirty sounds better ( in my opinion) the darker sound and quick decay works well with the style. that said.. for hats splashes and accent I do prefer clean.. the cut is brighter ... Thanks for the vid...its the style of music and sound your lookin for... break a leg!

Why do mine sound more like a gong then a cymbal?

Taylor is offering their 50th Anniversary model for $4,000. It does not sound a bit better than the Sire.

what about the black ones, i’m looking into those as the red ones don’t match my kit. what do you think about the black ones????? any difference

Good stuff!

sounds awesome man

Were wool gloves 🧤to protect your cymbals.

I really could tell the difference.it’s more brighter in sound when cleand ✨✨

Of course they cut some corners. These are budget guitars after all.

Squiers are fine these days, especially the $300-$450 models; the "cheapening out" areas that really affect anything are usually just cheaper tuners and the electronics but swapping out pickups and pots and stuff is pretty easy and a Squier is as good a place as any to learn that. The Paranormal series from Squier has been pretty cool, too; the Paranormal Cyclone has been my favorite modding platform. My biggest issue with these Squiers has just been that the Indian laurel fretboards often come to me pretty dire-looking and splintering around the edges. I've been really wanting to get one of those J. Mascis Jazzmasters, though, they look really cool.

that's otustanding ,till next time,;)

Have sire a 4 love it plays sounds great high end sound comfortable neck pickup system excellent well done sire

The increased sheen is awesome. Thats the subtle stuff that helps it cut in a mix.

I think a clean cymbal makes some people feel better so they will sound better to them.

Does anyone have tips for permanent fingerprints? I bought a used set, and I can't get rid of the baked in prints

I sometimes Soak my Cymbals with different cleaning solutions for a Few Hours . It Works !!

Holy crap, I'm a Zildjian guy, and I want a set of these.

The differnce in sound is over than 20%, more like 40%. Thanks for the video!

Don't clean your door handles or doors near the handle for a year... Yeah the door works but geezes... you have to do maintenance and cleaning on EVERYTHING YOU OWN so just do it

Don't need to use abrasives to get green rust off, there's chemical substances that do that, then polish afterwards

Dirty sounds better recorded. Clean sounds better live. Just my experience. I want cleaner brassier tones live, but deeper subdued tones on a recording. Pure personal preference.

I'm using 2002 hats,and sig crashes,just bought the big beat 21 to go with them..always thought my 20 in sig ride was too dry,this BB sounds awesome..

I have the grand auditorium version of the A4 it's anamazing guitar for around the £500 price point, the neck is amazing.

Cool video! Thanks!

Using a full rack, only to have a tom in a snare basket, is the most cursed setup ive ever seen

Great discussion !

I’m actually shopping for heads for my Sonor 503 kit now. I want red hydraulics on the batters on the kick and toms- but I guess I’ll need to do remo colortones on the rez heads to keep them all red. I’ve got deep mounted toms, so you’d see them from off stage because they’d need to be angled, hence me wanting red on the rez sides, too. I’ve never done this before, so I’m still learning. Hopefully I’m not making bad choices. 🤷‍♀️

Is this product gentle on logos?

I have some dark rides and crashes how should I clean those non brilliant cymbals ? Thanks

They are cymbals. Not cast iron skillets. Keep em clean for god sake lol.

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Great video!!

I love the darker tone of a well used, aged cymbal. My 18" Zildjians Crash and 20" Zildjians Crash-Rides from the 1970's have a nice dark patina on them. No dirt, just played and aged over decades. I wouldn't clean them if you paid me top dollar. However, after cleaning your cymbal , it was more aligned tonally with your newer cymbals.

The name of Jeff’s band in high school was actually Rural Still Life not Stillwater. Stillwater was the fictitious band for the movie ‘Almost Famous.’ David Paich’s audition song for Jeff’s band was Joe Cocker’s ‘Feelin’ Alright.’

What type of reso heads do you have under those toms?

The best cymbal cleaner I've ever used is bar Keepers Friend...cheap and effective

So I recently cleaned and polished my new beat hollow logos from the 80’s not because I thought they sounded bad but because I wanted to see them shine. I was surprised by the difference in tones. They almost sounded quieter but more full bodied and complex with a sparkle to them vs the bolder, dirty cymbal. Both sounded good but I prefer them polished up. I’m glad I did it

I have some big beats. i love them Kind of buttery, Warm & Mellow, yet still that 2002 glassy cut, I love Paiste cymbals. They are quite versatile. Great video, thx.

+ you surely feel better playing a better looking cimbal

I am getting the 22 big beat

depends. paiste signature crashes for example, you should definitely dust them from time to time, brightness is their strong point and i could definitely hear when they hadnt been wiped down in a while they sounded a bit duller. on the other hand i have a second hand zultan caz ride and its filthy and it sounds great.

It definitely looked better AND sounded better after cleaning. I picked up a couple 70s era Zildjians and cleaned them up with Barkeepers Friend. I know some people hate on cleaning cymbals, but removing all the crusty gunk was incredibly satisfying.

I did read the description to the end ❤ Awesome playing 💪🏻

It's something that should be obvious when buying cymbals new--just look at them! If you want dark sounding, more "choked" tones, you likely want a dirty cymbal. If you want brighter, more open cymbals, clean is best! However, it's great to see it put into practice and shown so plainly. Thanks for the video!