Good but tough message. I'm so thankful for The Lord's grace and mercy.

Amen!

Danny is right about the cultural impact on our students. Al Mohler always sounds good in public, but he tolerates WOKE faculty members and a provost who waffles on cultural issues. I know he has fired some faculty who are orthodox. He mentioned consistency but he needs to lead with consistency.

Clint hit on it. It's the passive nature of many men in the church. Bart said his church has no issue with it. I challenge him to talk to his teens and college age students. They aren't telling their pastors and parents everything. Trust me. The same holds true for sexuality issues.

The first view is from Thailand!

Mark is a democrat.😢

Okay, now I need a complete list of every book stacked on that table, please😎

Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:58 ESV) I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. (John 10:9 ESV) I AM, comes from the Greek word εἰμί [eimi /i·mee/] that means 1 to be, to exist, to happen, to be present. James Strong, Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon (Woodside Bible Fellowship, 1995). I AM DOES NOT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EXALTING OR PROMOTING OURSELVES BUT WITH THE ETERNAL PRESENCE OF GOD, A GOD WHO HAS ALWAYS EXISTED AND WILL EXIST.

Great topic, allow your associate pastor to preach on your; Easter, Christmas, those “big draw Sundays “ trust and share the platform 👍🏾🙏🏽

Im so glad I found this and subscribed.

I can hardly follow the conversation! Had to watch a couple of times. I'm nowhere near as fast, mentally. Anyway, I shared the video with a friend who recently started observing Old Testament feasts and laws, even as a non-Jewish believer, after they joined a small church. Hope its helpful to them. But I don't know if they'll be able to follow along! 😅 If anyone knows resources better suited to the average Christian, I'll gladly take recommendations.

What do you think of the prophet Elijah who ordered the execution of the 450 prophets of Baal and the 400 prophets of Ashterah?

You're riding a fine line there pastor, certain people are not even to be allowed into the church. Obedience because of love, not love itself, is what Paul was speaking of.

Delighting in the Trinity by Micahael Reeves

THE WAY WE REACT TO CORRECTION SAYS WHO WE ARE. Whoever corrects a scoffer gets himself abuse, and he who reproves a wicked man incurs injury. Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you. (Proverbs 9:7-8 ESV) God did something supernatural to correct the prophet Balaam speaking through a donkey and Balaam was so rebellious and hard headed that he hit the donkey. Other would have run. Can you image a donkey talking to you? REBELLIOUS AND HARD HEADED PEOPLE ARE AGGRESSIVE.

COMPLEMENTARIANISM IS BIBLICAL. Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.” (Genesis 2:18 ESV) So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. (Genesis 2:21-22 ESV) HELPER comes from the Greek word עֵזֶר [ʿezer /ay·zer/] n m. From 5826; TWOT 1598a; GK 6469; 21 occurrences; AV translates as “help” 19 times, and “help meet” twice. 1 help, succour. 1a help, succour. 1b one who helps. James Strong, Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon (Woodside Bible Fellowship, 1995). HELP: to give assistance or support to (someone) : to provide (someone) with something that is useful or necessary in achieving an end. (Merriam-Webster) COMPLEMENTARY: serving to fill out or complete. (Merriam-Webster)

I think this video is talking about preferences and maybe to some extend some outer-layer convictions. Certainly it’s not advocating for variance on the core doctrines of our faith or on convictions. We’ve got to have those in common in order to do life together as we’re commanded and called. I’m thankful for 9 marks as a lay person because I am better equipped to be a more faithful follower of Jesus and a more faithful church family member.

DEPEND. There are disagreements and differences that are not negotiable. SIN IS NOT NEGOTIABLE. If God says NO in His Word is NO, and if God says YES in His Word is YES. If a church does not want to recognize its sin it is destined to the discipline of God. For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? (1 Peter 4:17 ESV) For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives. If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. (Hebrews 12:6, 8-10 ESV)

AUTHORITY Matthew 28:18 (ESV): All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. The word AUTHORITY comes from the Greek word ἐξουσία [exousia /ex·oo·see·ah/] that has 4 meanings: 1. Power of choice, liberty of doing as one pleases. 1a leave or permission 2. Physical and mental power. 2a the ability or strength with which one is endued, which he either possesses or exercises. 3. The power of authority (influence) and of right (privilege). 4. The power of rule or government (the power of him whose will and commands must be submitted to by others and obeyed) AUTHORITY IS NOT DOMINEERING. Domineering is using authority to abuse. 1 Peter 5:2-3 (ESV): shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly; not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock. DOMINEERING, comes from the Greek word κατακυριεύω [katakurieuo /kat·ak·oo·ree·yoo·o/] that means: 1 to bring under one’s power, to subject one’s self, to subdue, master. 2 to hold in subjection, to be master of, exercise lordship over.

WHAT IS ECUMENISM? ECUMENISM: ecumenical principles and practices especially as shown among religious groups (such as Christian denominations). (Merriam-Webster) ECUMENICAL: promoting or tending toward worldwide Christian unity or cooperation. (Merriam-Webster) Is ecumenism biblical? Yes and no. YES, because God calls His people to unity; and NO because that unity should have Jesus and the Word of God as foundation and the Holy Spirit as the seal for that foundation. “So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God’s holy people. You are members of God’s family. Together, we are his house, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets. And the cornerstone is Christ Jesus himself. We are carefully joined together in him, becoming a holy temple for the Lord. Through him you Gentiles are also being made part of this dwelling where God lives by his Spirit.” (‭‭Ephesians ‭2‬:‭19‬-‭22‬ ‭NLT‬‬) As the verses before say, together we are God´s family built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets having Jesus as our cornerstone who lives in us through the Holy Spirit. “For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body-whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free-and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.” (1 Corinthians‬ ‭12‬:‭13‬ ‭NIV‬‬) Those who divide the church does not have the Holy Spirit in them and that is why they live in open sin and disobedience to the Word of God. “But you, my dear friends, must remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ predicted. They told you that in the last times there would be scoffers whose purpose in life is to satisfy their ungodly desires. These people are the ones who are creating divisions among you. They follow their natural instincts because they do not have God’s Spirit in them.” (Jude‬ ‭1‬:‭17‬-‭19‬ ‭NLT‬‬) We must not yield to them so that unity can be established but rather try to persuade them to come out of the lie they live and be saved. “You must show mercy to those whose faith is wavering. Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to still others, but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate their lives.” (Jude‬ ‭1‬:‭22‬-‭23‬ ‭NLT‬‬)

When I was in the PCUSA, I was bothered by the fact a female minister's explanation of her "calling" was NOT perhaps an interpretation of a particular Scripture as being more "custom" than "principle." At least that would have had a high (though mistaken) view of scripture. Instead, she said clearly that the Bible said one thing, and the "Holy Spirit" told her another. Many of the female "elders" in the church had husbands who did not attend. And there were lots of other issues. Finally, I just had to leave. The PCUSA today is completely run by an antichrist.

The SBC and its alphabet offshoots has become an apostate organization with leadership that has compromised in every area. No truly Biblical Church should remain in affiliation with them.

it is sad to hear so much support for "complementarianism" from this crowd. Egalitarianism is derived from Feminism, and Feminism gets its roots from godless communism in an effort to drive a wedge between God's vision of unity between men and women. Complementarianism is a compromise with Egalitarianism in that it continues the rejection of God's design for headship. When you preach for Complementarianism, you might as well preach for women soldiers and women in the draft. However, if there is a difference in the sexes and if God's design is for His Kingdom is one with Order, then we must yield to teaching what God has regarding headship. In God's design, a woman's high calling comes through her godly submission to the headship in her life; and in return, that headship is expected to go and provide for her by the blood and sweat of his own body. 9Marks rejects the Bible on so many topics for the sake of peddling the "gospel" for profit. It is sad to hear them be so arrogant while rejecting the clear teaching of the Word. At 25 minutes, listen to the satanic question asking if we should subvert the Gospel of Christ for the sake of including syncretism based on race.

Great discussion.

Intellectualism is destroying the church. Not a single verse quoted in this 45 minutes of discussion. That is a problem.

if no creed or confessions we wonder off to heretical doctrines.

Don't like the idea of "informal enforcement". It sounds like under-the-table dealing. Enforcement should be based on openly shared understanding.

God bless Dr. Mohler ❤️

Praise the Lord for these faithful men

Very very Awkward

The passage of scripture that convinced me that complementarianism is primary doctrine - not an area of doctrine where one is free to disagree - is 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - which by showing indirectly that every single person who comes to believe INSTANTLY KNOWS (without being taught) that they must honor sex differences (by not engaging in practicing homosexuality) - proves that sex differences must be at the very heart of the gospel. (I don't think it's as convincing to make that argument using Ephesians 5 - I hope that the SBC President elect - who used Ephesians 5 in the discussion - will end up reading this - and concluding the same): ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. While showing sex differences are at the heart of the gospel is very important - there is another theological area which is just as important. If we don’t have any idea of what a man is THEOLOGICALLY - and what a woman is THEOLOGICALLY - when we approach a passage relating to men and women - such as for example 1 Timothy 2 - we are in fact seeking to determine why God has chosen for human beings that have penises to teach human beings who have vaginas - and not the other way round. Sounds ridiculous, yes? But that’s what we have been doing for a few decades - we have been trying to interpret passages that relate to what men and women are supposed to do without first seeking to work out from scripture what a man IS - and what a woman IS (when if we had done differently our conclusions would have helped to narrow down the possible meaning of contended man and woman passages). Because we haven’t approached the issue in the correct order we have no idea what the HEART behind the bible’s various man and woman passages is. Imagine that you have a friend who likes U2’s music. So you send them some music (everything I am saying is out of date!). Then imagine that you find out that the reason your friend likes U2 is not because he or she likes their music - but because when U2’s music is on - their dog stops barking. That’s pretty important information, yes? It means that next time you might send your friend dog biscuits. ALL of the bible is like that - if we don't relate the principle or teaching we are considering to the character of God - and therefore the glory of God - we have no hope of understanding the spirit - or possibly even the letter - of what God is telling us. To provide my answer to what a man is I need to lay some very brief foundations about the character of God. While the four principal irreducible character attributes of God are his holiness, justice, mercy, and grace the first and last of these four attributes (holiness, grace) are not like the others (justice. mercy). They are different because instead of being 'simple' attributes like justice and mercy these attributes are about the way in which God relates to his own character. Starting with holiness - if God was not holy he would be content with the fact that HE behaves justly, and mercifully. God's holiness is his insistence that justice and mercy be present everywhere. And God's grace is his justice and mercy outworked with perfect self-giving intention (grace is justice and mercy accompanied by the fruit of the Spirit)**. When we behave with grace toward people we show that whatever our motives are we are behaving in a completely self-giving manner. So in fact the four principal character attributes can be whittled down to justice and mercy. (This is why Jesus summarises the law in Matthew 23 with three words - justice, mercy - and faithfulness (the last word being persistence in the first two words). So now to my definition of manhood and womanhood. My journey in reaching a conclusion about what a man is theologically - and what a woman is theologically - started with a small part of 1 Timothy 2. I saw potential in verse 14 - how - if Adam and Eve are made absolutely perfect - has Paul come to the conclusion that Eve - (and all women) are prone to spiritual deception more than men. This verse is a gift - since there are absolutely no possibilities other than orientation. Keeping in mind that male and female differences MUST lie at the very heart of the gospel - at the heart of God's character - which I have just shown is justice and mercy - I concluded (with the help of other bible passage) that to be man is to have a God given responsibility to outwork justice and mercy with an ORIENTATION towards justice. And to be a woman is to have a God given responsibility to outwork justice and mercy but with an ORIENTATION towards mercy. Said with non-theological words - men are called by God to protect principle and the welfare of people by being oriented towards principle - and women to protect both principle and people by being oriented towards the welfare of people. I hope that the SBC will approach the future with a rock solid understanding of these two areas (reaching common CONCLUSIONS is NOT the same thing as agreeing theologically - as I suspect time is going to reveal to your group): 1. WHY complementarianism must be an area of primary doctrine 2. What a man IS - and what a woman IS - theologically speaking.

That was an awkward and contentious Q & A pretending not to be awkward and contentious.

Excellent discussion.

Thank you

Is Dr. Akin saying at 6:00 that he voted against the Law Amendment?

What is it when government abuses authority?

Brother Jonathan can please speak up in the microphone. I have to turn it up when you talk and then turn it way down when your guest talks.

AUTHORITY IS GOOD WHEN IS USED CORRECTLY. Jesus has authority and never used it to abuse or manipulate when He was here on earth. THIS IS HOW JESUS DEFINES AUTHORITY: The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them, and those in authority over them are called benefactors. But not so with you. Rather, let the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the leader as one who serves. (Luke 22:25-26 ESV) Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you. Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven. (Luke 10:19-20 ESV)

Even if they decide they can adopt a creed, can they adopt the Nicene creed if they don’t believe in baptismal regeneration or if a significant number of members don’t

Will 9Marks at 9 for 2024 be posted?

Shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly; not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock. (1 Peter 5:2-3 ESV) The Greek word for DOMINEERING is κατακυριεύω [katakurieuo /kat·ak·oo·ree·yoo·o/] v. From 2596 and 2961; TDNT 3:1098; TDNTA 486; GK 2894; Four occurrences; AV translates as “exercise dominion over” once, “overcome” once, “be lord over” once, and “exercise lordship over” once. 1 to bring under one’s power, to subject one’s self, to subdue, master. 2 to hold in subjection, to be master of, exercise lordship over. James Strong, Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon (Woodside Bible Fellowship, 1995). DOMINEER: to exercise arbitrary or overbearing control. To tyrannize over. (Merriam-Webster)

Watching from Rome!

What is the authority of the Sanhedrin? vs. What is the authority of the Word of God? 🤔 This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. (Matthew 15:8-9 ESV) All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17 ESV)

¿PLANTING CHURCHES? The term PLANTING CHURCHES is not bíblicaL. What we plant is the Word of God in the heart of people, which is the soil. According to the Word of God, the seed is the Word of God. Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root; they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away. And as for what fell among the thorns, they are those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of life, and their fruit does not mature. As for that in the good soil, they are those who, hearing the word, hold it fast in an honest and good heart, and bear fruit with patience. (Luke 8:11-15 ESV) We plant the seed, which is the Word of God, in the heart of people and God is who make the seed grow. The result of the sow does not depend from us but from God. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. (1 Corinthians 3:6-8 ESV) Our call is to make disciples teaching people to obey the Word of God, not church planting. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age. (Matthew 28:19-20 ESV) DISCIPLE, from the Greek word μαθητεύω [matheteuo /math·ayt·yoo·o/] that means 1 to be a disciple of one. 1a to follow his precepts and instructions. 2 to make a disciple. 2a to teach, instruct. These were the instructions that Jesus gave to the first apostles: These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay. (Matthew 10:5-8 ESV) Acquire no gold or silver or copper for your belts, no bag for your journey, or two tunics or sandals or a staff, for the laborer deserves his food. (Matthew 10:9-10 ESV) And whatever town or village you enter, find out who is worthy in it and stay there until you depart. As you enter the house, greet it. And if the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it, but if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town. (Matthew 10:11-14 ESV) The first apostles were sent only to the people of Israel. But after the conversion of Paul the Gospel began to be shared to the Gentiles. To be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles in the priestly service of the gospel of God, so that the offering of the Gentiles may be acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit. (Romans 15:16 ESV) True disciples of Jesus remain in God and His Word remain in them. They persevere in the faith and obey the Word of God voluntarily. If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples. (John 15:7-8 ESV)

I would like to see a book that lists theological triage levels from 9Marks. What you think which doctrine is in each level and why. Like Jonathon says, you want tier 2 doctrines to protect tier 1 doctrines. It would be nice to see it laid out. Thanks for the book club video.

6:35pm started listening

Watching from Kenya

Ooh, that was a good line! Whatever you use to reach them, you’ll have to use to keep them. Amen. Word first!

Have Welton on more, we love him!

One of my favorite episodes so far! Watching from the Philippines!