Blows up throw loops. If you expect it, go meaty. Helps geif and lilly mainly. Does it work with regular throw? I swear it might

Jump cancel + SA3? Possible?

So it can blow up scrubby throw loops?

video starts at 3:32

we did this like 20 years ago on street fighter 3 3s. but it's harder in 3s bc you need to do super jump to cancel

What's crazy is I've been doing this since the beginning as a Zangief player but didn't understand why it worked the way it did against meaty/frame tight pressure lol. Now it all makes sense

can't do this anymore . I don't know why? my Jump Cancel SPD keeps getting defeated by normal grab the moment I get up.

The knee press can be countered on block so its not that good of a move. Because a light jab beats it if its blocked

I hate Option aspects, it’s just cheating. It’s not a Kara throw; it’s not learned tech, it’s cheating.

I downvoted this because of the move, not Vesper.

If I’m understanding this correctly, this may actually be huge for Honda. OD invincible hands is good, but I’m more thinking ex headbutt. Ex headbutt is almost a dp except since it’s armor and not invuln he can be thrown out of it. If I’m correct, using sumo slam and cancelling into ex headbutt with the override basically means Honda now has a DP type reversal cause you can’t be thrown out of it. Sure it’s very punishable on block but that’s not the point. You just do this everything you would normally want to use ex headbutt and have the added benefit of beating throw. Someone let me know if I’m wrong cause I haven’t labbed yet

Thats brilliant man. I main ryu and akuma and im practicing this crap now.

03:39 if your LightKick is 4 FRAMES why are you getting thrown by Ryu on wake up if Throws are 5 FRAMES. Aren't you supposed to beat the throw with a 4 FRAME move? 🤔 🙄

11:00 The real question is why the hell is it +4 in the first place

This is NOT a bug, or an exploit. Lol it's been in multiple games

This is fun but I think they should remove it if they can.

So that’s way I keep getting grabbed

Sad you have to go to this extent to escape throw loops and to get out the corner..😂 it should not be so braindead to lock someone down in the corner, yet so hard to get out..

Lol don’t grapple with a grappler. Noted. Hope a Zangief goes to the top 8

People complaining like every Gief can pull it off as consistently as Kobayan does. Try it yourself, it is not some scrubby Luke or Ken brain dead flowchart combo which you pride yourself for.

Out of all the broken and brainless nonsense in this game some people want to complain about this??? This community is a big reason why this game is in the garbage state that its in .. people just want to spam safe broken bs

There's A LOT of additional frame data information that explains how this works and why this is difficult to execute depending on the situation. Thanks for watching! I'll keep everyone posted if there's any changes in the future. x.com/HatsonFGC/status/1813931398992220509 x.com/20130602st6/status/1813428914414612748

Ban every character

Everyone here complaining about Zangief didn’t get to the part in the vid about Blanka’s cancels, you’re telling on yourselves 😂

Oh no it's Abigail all over again.

whats the ost when vesper shows off blanka?

Is it possible that the most meatiest of throws beats this? I labbed a super meaty throw, and it looks like the air grab doesn't work/the throw wins. A slightly less meaty throw, and the air grab wins. Is this true?

Most Gief Player know this now, Kobayan is using this in Topanga

You do have to be skilled to use these reversal options, due to the small window, but I think this should not be patched out. This is only for those that have no arthritis and know the game in and out.

Sounds like a bug 😅

17 mins bro, tf?

This is awesome aha Has any use of this been found with ken?

Wake up spd isn't something new isn't it? You can jump and punish counter

I never noticed how much Ryu's chin clips into his gi and chest during his idle animation. It's pretty bad. I wonder how that slipped past when they were making the game considering Ryu is one of the main cast members.

Wait, does that mean that Aki can do OD snake step and gain throw invuln?

Capcom went the route of pretty much only keeping intentional things as far as mechanics go. I can see them patching this out as much as they can because it goes against the whole gameplay design of SF6. Personally, I loved this kind of stuff back in SF4, but this time around, I'm leaning towards keeping the gameplay design/direction tight.

i dont like throws leave it in the game

"new"

Music got me hard at the beginning ❤

zangief top 5

Gief SPD should be throw invincible at the very least anyway, so Capcom should let this rock. The fact that it has a very exploitable weakness (dies to meaties; also dies to vertical jump which Gief is very weak too as well) means there's no reason to fix this.

thanks vesper, always good to have this info even for me who left the community due to lack of passion and just becoming overly casual in general.

Vesper acting like he’s known about this lol. I first heard about this tech last week and now you’re making a vid today about it.💀

Keep it. Bring me back to sf4 when it was actually scary to pressure a grappler

They removed lily's ability to jump cancel everything but SPD, so jump cancel SPD is intentional going by the dev notes so grapplers having that seems to be intentional. They should remove every characters jump cancel specials as they counted it as a bug with lily.

jump cancel inputs will never get patched ever ever ever ever ever. hopefully lol

Mena is gonna have fun and EVO 😂

Bro, this has been around a very long time in sf history even in sf4, and sf5. Why people acting like this is new tech? Its super risky, and is a read, now if zangief had armor kara cancels like sf4 did that would be problem in this game. There was wayyyyy more zangief tech in sf4 than any other street fighter lol. It isnt that powerful at all

kobayans defense is so much stronger just by showing people he's willing to do it. it's a crazy amount of pressure alleviated. I haven't seen anybody do it as consistently as kobayan, he's a freak of nature

So are we gonna see all zangief and lily in evo top 8?