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@kodalycat906 5 күн бұрын
I understand some of the hatred...and it irritates me. Though many of the haters would never admit it (even the fanatic Maradona fans) part of it stems from the fact that the man is relatively small (5'7") and NOT built like a stud (even a "shrimp" like Maradona was a stud compared to Messi, those tree trunks for legs etc.)...not a stereotypical footballer. And this "little man" has done things on the pitch that a person that small should never be able to do, consistently embarrassing defenders much larger, stronger and, in some cases, just as fast as him. He has even taken a relatively new category of goal (I call it the nutmeg goal, going between the legs of a last defender before beating the goalie) to a level of apotheosis as to essentially make it his own. He is the most atypical of GOATS, and not a horse's a**, prima dona, "difficult" team mate etc. and brings no shame or scandal to the game (which has had enough of it's own)
@charlielobello5014 17 күн бұрын
How do you pick a goat based on Team statistics and individual accomplishments doesn't make sense
@charlielobello5014 17 күн бұрын
Hypothetically Rolando and Messi and their career with the exact same statistics, how do you pick a goat it's so simple. Character
@Inquisitive_Nomad 16 күн бұрын
Exact same statistics?? You are deluded Messi has More team trophies Has more individual awards Has better stats Even in goalscoring, Messi is better. More free kicks. Way better free kick conversion rate. Better Goal Ratio. More outside the box goals. More shots on target. Better accuracy. More non penalty goals. And all these after playing less that 150 matches than Ronaldo. Only thing Ronaldo is clear is Penalties. Only player to win ballandor 8 times. Only player to win 4 ballandors consecutively. Won 3 playmaker awards consecutively. Messi won 395(highest ever) man of the matches awards. And Ronaldo has won just 176. Ronaldo has 38 matches with perfect 10 rating. Meanwhile Messi again has the highest ever here with 118 perfect 10 rating matches. More passes More Assists Highest goals in a season. Highest goals in a calendar year Most non penalty goals ever scored in a season ever list: 1. 11/12 season Lionel Messi with 59 non penalty goals 2. 12/13 season with 55 non penalty goals again Lionel Messi 3. This must be Cristiano right?? Hehe Cheeky boy. It's Messi again with 52 non penalty goals in 14/15 season 4. And then 55 non penalty goals again in 15/16 season. Its Messi. Only thing Ronaldo is clear is in Penalties. A sextuple. And 2 trebles. And an International treble. Lionel Messi has 41 Guinness world records and Cristiano Ronaldo has 40. Cristiano Ronaldo has 40. Enjoy bro, I know you guys will still live in denial and give excuses. Messi the Greatest of All Time🐐👽🥶✨❤️
@user-uk7vc1yl2i 18 күн бұрын
Pele GOAT Messi pk only pessi
@Inquisitive_Nomad 16 күн бұрын
🤡 The Brazilian labourer whose stats changed regularly Whenever any other footballer surpassed his stats, the clown changed his stats to maintain his G.O.A.T status. And Brazil has a history of overhyped talents. I remember those days when you actually called Neymar as the next pele. Some said that he was better than Pele. And now you guys will change the narrative. Or may be you weren't even alive then👶🏻
@ordinaryguy815 25 күн бұрын
Lex Fridman, a legend of the game xD
@user-vp7hd2un8o 2 ай бұрын
Lets combarison to Maradona and Messi. Both were about 17 years enetring argentina team. Maradona hd only argentina club succes before he won world cup. He moved to Napoli and did 1 good year winning Napolis only league victrory. In other hand Messi came at 16 into Barcelona team, He won With Barcelona champ leagues several years he dominated in 3 world cups in the end winning it. Maradona was good only 86 world cup, 90's he was fat, could not do a shit in a field anymore. Leo has been fit for 15 years of adulthood dominating in every team he played. Hands down, Leo "the Goat" the God of Football.
@andrewbunch6599 2 ай бұрын
As a Messi fan it's easy to say is that all you got 😂😂
@Loki1815 3 ай бұрын
What gets me is that the so-called experts, the retired Football Players turned pundits, when comparing maradona with Messi, never mention maradona's drugs cheating and corresponding bans for taking performance enhancing drugs. That's the problem when taking this stuff, you seem to lose your memory!
@IWannatalkpodcast 3 ай бұрын
Messi's not competing with Maradona - he's competing with Mozart
@tiffa01 3 ай бұрын
This debate should be about messi and maradonna not Ronaldo as he's not in the top 5
@devashishdavid 3 ай бұрын
MESSI IS THE GOAT, THE EVER BEST FOOTBALLER TILL DATE
@kennymichaelalanya7134 4 ай бұрын
CR7 would have to win a World Cup to be on the debate table with Messi. I actually don't have CR7 in my top 5 best players of all time list.
@tsepoleyane1704 4 ай бұрын
There was never a debate Messi is incomparable
@tadiwanashezdube5885 4 ай бұрын
One club wonder kid 😂😂😂😂😂 this is rubbish
@Inquisitive_Nomad 16 күн бұрын
One club wonder kid?? When someone is loyal, you call him one club wonder kid 🤡 For you even Maldini is a one club wonder kid right?? Dumbo
@Thehead92 4 ай бұрын
I don't think Ronaldo was ever a strong contender for the goat in the first place, it was mainly Maradona Pele maybe the Brazilian Ronaldo and Messi, CR7 might be the Best Striker and he holds many records, but the others were just Phenomenons
@manualjane2446 4 ай бұрын
it is not that he does not do it He simply cant do it
@UPTIMUSPRIME123 4 ай бұрын
Why people dont accept magic they see it right there infront of them dont tell me about any fuckin penaldo messi is the real blue print, penaldo wasted his career the only trophy to seal his name he cried of the field
@davidvarey5072 4 ай бұрын
he definitely didn’t have the influence on a big game like maradona or zz
@Inquisitive_Nomad 16 күн бұрын
Influence on big game?? You are a clown kid Who has more world cup goals Who has more world cup assists Who has more champions league goals Who has more champions league assists Be deluded kid
@josephvernon21 4 ай бұрын
Messi can only be compared to Pele and Maradona now. Respectfully. And i’ve seen minimum film of those 2
@GIBBO4182 4 ай бұрын
Christiano isn't even the best Ronaldo that's played the game
@user-dv5uu5mf8j 5 ай бұрын
❤ y'all can say what so ever bt cr7 has the streets, favourite of many future gr8 players & we are still convinced cr7 is the most complete & greatest player of all time ❣️
@tyr770 4 ай бұрын
Streets>>Football Greats😂😂
@ilan_NahshOn 5 ай бұрын
Ferdinand is spineless, Changing his opinion.
@Inquisitive_Nomad 16 күн бұрын
Ferdinand has always said Messi is the best. He has appreciated Ronaldo many times. But always from the first day has said that Messi is the best ever. Before Messi he used to say that about Maradona. Continue to be deluded
@GOATIGER87 5 ай бұрын
It definitely seems right to call both of these two players GOATs as no player in the past "CONSISTENTLY" performed for 10+ Years. But, Messi is miles above everyone else in understanding of football in general such as understanding of space, flow, positioning (e.g. breaking offside), the timing and the weight of pass and the shot timing and the accuracy and dribbling of course. I am sure some A and S-tier players also possess one or more of these skills but definitely not all. What's even more surprising is that he can execute the actions based on these understandings, making those split-second decisions in the most direct and efficient way possible for nearly 20 years. Also, he hasn't had a major career-threatening injury like the one Neymar has gotten while dribbling more than any footballer in the world every game. Lastly, he must have a perfect understanding of his body, fitness as he has adapted to the adequate play style depending on his diminishing speed and fitness, still able to digest 90 minutes in a fairly intense schedule. In my opinion, I don't think we will see another player like this for a long time or ever... so let's appreciate watching him play on the pitch until he retires.
@Barcaback 5 ай бұрын
Messi was alrdy the goat evan before wc.
@Mockabv 5 ай бұрын
When i see soccer in title i usualy skip , because its football the real football not like americans call it , but messi is messi so i clicked😅
@CanadaDan 5 ай бұрын
The greatest achievent Cristiano has is to be mentioned in the same paragraph as Lionel Messi. Besides the "he works really hard" and all that what does he do for the team? What CR has ever done is score goals, that's it. Analyzing his inflated numbers would be debunking the myth but anyways this is about Messi. What Messi does is not just scoring but he also create the play, assists scorers and scores himself, it's like having 3 players in one and not just any players, 3 top tier players, amazing vision for passing, drags his marks so when he passes the ball to his teammates their chances to score are greater and his scoring... well, he's the 🐐 for a reason 😏
@todofitness9638 5 ай бұрын
I will tell you what is the difference right now. Messi is small and ugly and his character is not of a leader, very likeable because most people are arrogant in a way. And Cristiano is good looking, tall, fit, handsome...and his character is to speak directly what is on his mind and sometimes speaks thruths that hurt the weak-minded. In the pitch Cristiano has done and proved more than Messi playing in worse teams both clubs and internationally, because Argentina is toooo much better than Portugal in every single way. If Messi had won 3 Champions League in a row scoring +15 goals each season everyone would be going crazy. Messi got the advantage of playing for Guardiola for 4 years, and he won his first 4 Ballon dOrs, after that Cristiano made a comeback because he was just that much better he went to 5-5 and everyone knows it should've been 6-5 after 2018. And then Messi gets the 6th on 2019. Perfect ending. BUT the media and marketing-fueled world decided to give Messi 2 more out of nowhere when we all know he didn't deserve it...EVERYONE said "It's never bad to give it to Messi" of course is not, and It's never bad to give it to Cristiano, but you can't deny that in 2021 and 2023 there were much better perfomances and those players also deserve recognition. We can all agree Messi wasn't even in top3 in 2021 and 2023, but they gave him because he is Messi, to honour his past...it was pathetic.
@MrJuan_Vzla 4 ай бұрын
I always remember what Joseph Blatter said about CR7 and Messi, because it shows FIFA's mentality.
@user-zb5xu7oq1m 5 ай бұрын
❤😢🙌🫶🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🔥
@nikitachauhan9976 5 ай бұрын
soccer legends but why u have the thumbnail w joe rogan
@edwinrubio1681 5 ай бұрын
They calling him a one club wonder tho
@CristianoRonaldoSoloFans 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 fake goat
@BeanTownBruno 5 ай бұрын
Maradona then Messi cuz Messi arguably had the best players around him his whole career. Maradona went to a second division team brought them up to First and won two scudettos during a time Serie A was arguably the best league in the world, with players that would take your legs off for embarrassing them. Not like today u get touched they blow the whistle.. Look up one game Napoli vs Juventus freekick over the wall in the penalty area. He literally defied the laws of physics 🙏🏼 N what he said before the shot was even greater. They were arguing with the ref cause the wall was only 5 ft away eventually he just said in Napoletano "whateverdoesnt matter im still going to score anyway" n walked away the way he shot that ball was like a friggen angel left his foot flying through the sky..lol He made that ball do what HE wanted n thats why hes the GOAT. 🩵🙏🏼🌋 E forza Napoli a vita 💀🌋 heres a link but should really watch a few videos of his teammates breaking it down n one where hes the narrator. after.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6mVpr2SvdGWnnU.htmlsi=sWo3taitryMG7ef6
@vintagebikes4215 5 ай бұрын
What a joke. On every criteria, Messi wins. No contest whatever.
@AlecKeller 5 ай бұрын
yes....yes...yes....!!!
@andrewmason8691 5 ай бұрын
Sadly, as we all get older, people forget about Pele.
@TheBrocktonBlockbust 5 ай бұрын
Great player, but definitely not the GOAT.
@fabianmohammed1086 5 ай бұрын
goat after cr7❤🐐🖐️
@remorselesscuckslayer2318 6 ай бұрын
Messi is compared to Pelé and Maradona. Penaldo is compared to Messi.
@fabianmohammed1086 5 ай бұрын
he is better than pessidog by far
@ampmskm 6 ай бұрын
Messi= Maradona + Pele combined Ronaldo is far behind🎉🎉 No comparison 🌹
@fabianmohammed1086 5 ай бұрын
niqqa u dont watch football i can tell
@JuniorClotaireHaitian2070Haiti 6 ай бұрын
#MESSI IS THE FUCKING GOAT 🐐 2023 2024 2026🤟🏽
@user-ti4tf4kn3o 6 ай бұрын
3:35 Makes total sense! Goat is a subjective term, however Pele Maradona must come to mind if you really and understand know this game and all it's challenges at this level.
@ronaldtlale5132 6 ай бұрын
good defenders know what you'll do already and they are very few people. you are jokes (you really make me wish Benzema was Fernomeno or Saurez). because Messi is better than them and runs faster than them it doesnt make him better than Ronaldo; they just speak ### and they are not that good themselves, they think they know. put Messi or anyone and Ronaldo in drills and LET'S bet (simple). I have played Messi and they don't like me.
@user-wj4sl7mj6k 6 ай бұрын
Argentina 🇦🇷💙🤍💙 Messi and Maradona the two greatest players Ever!! The two Titans of Futbol.
@quintonmason1513 6 ай бұрын
Messi vs Ronaldo. Highest goal to game ratio. Double the amount of assists. Double the amount of successful dribbles. 30% more goals outside of the big box. The stats do not lie. Messi is the one and only GOAT.
@fabianmohammed1086 6 ай бұрын
if only cr7 didnt exist sure
@felixmalija6387 6 ай бұрын
Messi has done some things that Ronald did same as Ronald did that also so don't just focus on 1 side, Messi is the best for you not for everyone. you are focusing on the person you want.
@dj_jx 6 ай бұрын
Soccer ? The name if the game is FOOTBALL ! You earn disloke only for that even before i watch anything. Do you realize that this word insult 95% of population and football fans. The 2026 FIFA World Cup will be hosted in America, Canada and Mexico, I'm dying to see and hear some commentator call the game soccer on international television. This will fire up the fans. All over the world the game is called FOOTBALL! Only stupid Americans call it soccer, and part of Australia, but there only because they took rugby from America and call it football, just as Americans call the game of rugby football. Which is complete idiocy. Professional football was played in England before America existed. Get informed before writing nonsense, you won't look like a dumb peasant. See how commentators around the world are calling the game, including the players and managers. At least open the FIFA official page or at least google what FIFA means. It might refresh your mind.
@michaelsfootballanalysis239 6 ай бұрын
HE WAS THAT SMALL AND QUICK AND WOULD GO UNDERNEATH😂😂😂😅❤
@drakkid18 6 ай бұрын
Ronaldo is a beast in the field. A monster. Massive respect for Ronaldo. He has the thirst for victory and he is hardworking.... But still.. Messi is god-tier. I don't think he's human. 😅
@deckiedeckie 7 ай бұрын
MARADONA the forever KNG!!
@billyedgar9570 7 ай бұрын
Messi is better than Cristiano Ronaldo; however, Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima (Brazilian; born 18 September 1976), known as Ronaldo or Ronaldo Nazário, was better than Messi. This is what the best football players say, even Messi does. Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima was unplayable.